Out of the 4 surplus guns I ordered from AIM they were all in better condition than the example posted on the website.‘I learned my Classic Firearms lesson cheap-I ordered some AK mags and they showed up absolutely covered in rust and filled with dirt. They weren’t cheap either-had to totally refinish the damn things. I’ve also had pretty good luck with JG Sales and Atlantic but I’ve only ordered two firearms from them.
Classic is very generous with their interpretation of the NRA finish grades. I ordered a "very good" hi power from them recently and the bare minimum for that ranking is 60% intact finish. Well there isn't a corner on the gun that hasn't had the finish rubbed off (way more than just holster wear would do) and the backstrap is almost bare aluminum. Even the slide, which was parkerized then epoxy coated, is missing most of the epoxy paint and even has some parkerizing worn away (again much more than regular holster wear). Sweaty Ben is as much a shyster as they come.
Don't forget when classic listed pm-63 pistols sold them, cancelled the orders and relisted them for $200 more than they originally had them listed. I also have been told that they are playing a significant part in the death of the surplus market. I have been told by a friend of mine who toured the classic firearms warehouse recently that while they will claim that mosins are out of stock they actually have thousands on the racks in a way of controlling the supply to the market and creating scarcity
Man I've learned so much about Classic in the last couple of years, I'm so happy with my M39 cause I think I found a diamond in the rough. I had never heard of them before and it was marked down with a cracked stock so I took a chance and it's completely fine except for one small divot on the right side. But I've seen so many pictures of fossilized Tokarevs and what not that I will never deal with them again.
Love the look of that model 10-6. Hopefully, there are still some police stations turning them in for surplus. I can stand behind SGammo too, best prices on m1 garand ammo
Still remember the early 90s when you could literally find tables full of revolvers at shows due to leo going semi auto.Wish I'd bought more than I could afford
I love how I find this video in the perfect time. I know it's 2021 as I'm posting this and this is a 2019 video, but I've been looking for a Type 99 Arisaka for a long, long, LONG time. You recommended Empire Arms, I looked and, oh boy. Safe to say I won't be stalking the Gun Shows looking for a Type 99 anymore.
Just starting out with surplus firearms, and I have to thank you for your vids. Even though I’m a vet, I only really interacted with the M16. I like to think that I’m good at researching stuff but it’s so nice to hear a passionate and articulate person give valuable knowledge and experience in your videos. Keep it up, even as the surplus market continues to spiral down
I’ve purchased a few items from classic over the years.. I recognize I over paid for some, and that’s ok, to a degree. I lost faith in purchasing anymore from them based on a purchase of an enfield. I don’t recall all of the details of what I got, but I had paid for the “hand select” and I’m pretty confident it was the last one.. of one of the last few... and it was pretty much trash.. split stock, loose butt stock, etc. Mosin is great to deal with. Fair, honest, straight shooter.
I bought my first surplus kar98k just recently. got the 8mm ammo from sgammo and it was packaged nice and in good shape. I saw they had a lot of surplus and even new manufacture seemed like they were priced decently, for these hard times. Happy i picked a good one first try and i recommended them to my friend who has more surplus firearms than me.
Invaluable video! I recently bought my first rifle, a 91/30, and had no info for good places to get bullets. Wal-Mart doesn't carry much 7.62x54r. So many gun youtubers get free ammo that it's hard to find them talking about where you should buy it honestly.
Unfortunately, J&G sales have started going the way of Classic. (Although I did get a couple Swiss rifles from Classic last year). A couple small guys I want to point out... Bull Moose Guns, and Panzerfaustarmory.
Ya brother me and my father got screwed by classic firearms they tried to double charge me for some YBO steel AK mags I ordered and my father got screwed when he ordered some psl mags from them online and they showed online were very good to excellent condition but when he got them they were rusted all to hell and the springs inside the mags were seized. Also I almost forgot to tell U they lied to me saying that my bank had my money when I call my bank and spoke to a banker he said that classic lied to me and they basically stole my money and were probably hoping I wouldn’t realize what had happened at the end of the day DONT do business with classic firearms
Very well made vid. Thank you!! Up here in Northern Michigan we don't have big gun stores. Your "endorsed" gun stores I'll defiantly look into ordering from.. Keep up the well made, educational vids.
I have bought 3 guns from Classic Firearms: a Browning Buck Mark that was on sale, a Bulgarian Makarov, and a Swiss 1911 with matching bayonet. I have been happy with my purchases except for the fact that they take a long time to ship and they charge an exorbitant amount for shipping & handling. But after the shenanigans started to unravel, I refuse to buy from them anymore. The list goes on: plagiarizing photos, cancelling pending orders and relisting items at a higher price, paying off TH-camrs to shill, fake giveaways, listing like 20 options to squeeze out as much money as they can, overpricing and overhyping surplus, etc.
I learned about Aldin Jones at the Mosin Crate from Mike and my son worked part time for SG while attending OSU in Stillwater last year in the warehouse dept. Which is in a secret location, you never guess but there's a yellow tag on the gate. Great people to buy from
I have used AIM and Classic. So far I am happy with both. I have no doubts about the claims people have about Classic. Just has not happen to me........yet. What I like about AIM is they seem to be friendlier and take a little time to BS with you.
Agreed all good sources online. Though nothing beats the hunt locally checking out weapons in person and haggling for a deal. Classic cracks me up with their special or more collectible up pricing on weapons for reasons that don't add value or collectibility. People just need to buy a book and not buy into the hype.
J&G hasn't done me wrong yet. I don't know much about the company but they seem okay and prices have been good. I got a Yugo M48 which the previous owner had carved a Croatian coat of arms on the stock.
Arms list is pretty good to now i know its more like ebay for guns but you can get good deals and you get to inspect the gun before you buy since its in person
Same ting happened to me from classic firearms, i payed $75 for hand pic for m39 total price I payed was $575 + shipping and I received m39 with 7 big cracks on stock on top Handguard was 12” and 6” crack on only top of the Handguard and 5 more on stock🤬, and they mentioned small crack you can’t even see it in description for not hand picks.
Classic burned me too, they sent me a non functional rifle, made me take it to a gunsmith to be sure before they would take it back. I had to pay 2 ffl fees and 3 shipping cost. When I purchased they were selling VG grade rifles and paid +20 for hand picked, the replacement order was for Good grade and was not the condition I paid for, as for hand picked, sure they must have picked it up by hand but that's about it. For the total money I paid I could have bought one in excellent condition. I still buy from them but I don't waste my money on hand picked.
Love SG Ammo. Try to buy from them every payday. Have a Steyr Hahn and they have the factory ammo at a great price. Was paying over twice the price for crap ammo from Precision Cartridge. They feed my AR's and AK's also.
I have dealt with everybody in your list other than Empire Arms, but I have drooled over their listings in the past. One of my first surplus/trade-in guns was a Hi-Power from Aim. All I have gotten from Alden is a Jericho 941F, but almost every video nearly convinces me to somehow try to order something the next morning while at work. Any thoughts on J&GSales and KingsFirearmsOnline? They've got some fantastic prices sometimes. I can't say I have seen police trade-ins cheaper than Kings very often, and they seem to have a steady stream of the stuff at all times. They even have cheap trade-in optics often, and have Streamlight TLR-1 HL's for under $50 each still I think (I bought 3).
I totally agree about Cheaper Than Dirt. Their whole bullshit shipping scheme kind of annoys me too (do they still do that?).. I get that it can be good, but it was just an annoying way to shop and after about 5 different orders I had made, I called it quits with them. Further, they're "quite a bit more expensive than dirt" if you ask me.
Personally I’ve gotten f’d over enough that I’m close to giving up on buying surplus from vendors. I bought my first rifle as a 91/30, 1941 production okay cool thing looks like it’s been through Kursk I dig it. Tear the rifle apart and there’s probably a good 1/16-1/8th of material taken out by pitting about halfway down the barrel, first rifle I bought I still haven’t shot it because I’m afraid it’ll Elmer Fudd on me. 2nd was a CZ82 that once again, had a rust hole, this time it went all the way through the barrel. Only one I’ve had success with is a makarov. Thinking about getting an m48 to throw a leupold 4x with German #1 reticle on it because screw getting a real k98 and doing that, but I’m afraid of another flop
Why does classic offer hand select. They sent my pistol pitted, in a bubble mailer, crooked sights and a whole different generation of model from what was described to what they were selling. 1st and last time
Bought a Beretta 81 from classic with hand select option and got a scratched frame dings in the barrel and broken trigger spring. Not even a good graded firearm because it wasn’t functional. They couldn’t send me a spring and wanted me to mail it back for exchange. I picked refund and never been back
Damn, the mosin crate is completely sold out. Luckily he offers time machine rentals so I'll just go back in time to before he was sold out and buy a jericho.
I just subbed to your channel after watching a few of your videos. I am a long time gun enthusiast/hunter/veteran with a decent collection of mostly newer firearms, however I've started to really get interested in the surplus stuff and I'm leaning towards an SKS for my first purchase. Any thoughts on Palmetto State Armory for this? They have them available currently and I have dealt with them recently with a purchase of their 10.5" KS-47 "pistol". Shipping took nearly 2 weeks but it was just before Christmas so I can't be too upset about that. Overall very happy with their products so far. Or is there a better place to look for an SKS? Side note: I could have bought one in very nice condition from a buddy of mine 10 years ago for $150 but at that time I just wasn't really interested. Now I'm kicking myself. It was a Soviet model as well. Now all you can find are the Chinese ones... 😒
My honest advice would be unless you have deep pockets, maybe grab one or two surplus guns and have that be it. IT's turned in to what classic cars are: A collector's market that prices the average Joe out of the hobby and it's not nearly as fun.
Moral of the story is support the local and small businesses. I refuse to buy from Classic. Their recent inventory only further proves the point that they don't know how to grade and price accordingly and don't care to hire better help to get things straight. I bet this is why IV8888 doesn't do anything with them anymore because I don't recall anything about them since right after they got all the M39s in. From what I have been hearing it's not like you're paying the price for a premium product but paying a premium and getting something that I could find for way less elsewhere. I don't buy my guns online. I always buy from a local dealer and I have always been treated fairly. Sure I bought a couple things from a big box store because they priced some milsurp handguns pretty low for the condition and the fact that it came with the original holster but 95% comes from local shops.
Yeah I get that, but I've also had really good luck buying from reputable companies online. Classic is just an example of a company who doesn't care about anything except money, therefore your likelihood of being disappointed is much higher.
@@MikeB128 oh I agree. There are online retailers that still do right by their customers. I meant for those to be lumped into the small business category because most of the good ones typically are family businesses.
I for sure agree with you about classic firearms. They are a very shitty company to do business with. Never bought anything from cheaper than dirt though.
I haven't had any problems with Cheaper than Dirt, or Bud's Gun Shop. Probably the biggest names around. They both kind of suck for surplus/trade-in/used stuff anyway though as far as pricing goes.
I agree with all of your descriptions and opinions. I have dealt with all of them except The Mosin Crate. Noticed that you didn’t mention J&G Sales. Any thoughts there?
Mark Jones I’d recommend Mosin Crate, bought several guns from him. Personal service and item is Always as described. J&G sales I’ve had 50/50 satisfaction with but never sent anything back. Good luck, Man.
Just got divorced, she hates guns(liberal) and I am on a buying rampage of military surplus. I love the old guns. Great video. JGsales.com have nice prices too.
Have you ever heard of dkfirearms and if so are they good and ive been looking into getting a tokarev but i cant decide weather to get a romanian ttc or a m57 witch would you perfer
Cheaper than dirt are assholes, got screwed by them years ago, never again.was suspicious of classic, I had a REAL bad experience with buds gunshop, I'll never do business with them again. Thanks
It's sad how the C&R game is basically over. $500 a pop for things that aren't very great quality, with anything decent running up to $800 and more, sad.
Yeah fuck cheaper than dirt. They should be sued for their name cuz it's false advertising. I use Target sports USA and Lucky Gunner for ammo and they seem to be pretty good.
Completely agreed with Classic Firearms. Completely shitty company with completely shitty practices. The worst of their new tactics is their bs auctions selling standard milsurp for sky high prices. Someone last year won a Walther P1 with lots of wear and import marks or $800+ bucks. I've gotten a very ratty M57 from them ( imgur.com/a/RmMZA) even though it was rated as being in very good condition. Just a really shady greasy company. Everyone that knows an ounce about milsurp should know to steer clear away from Classic. Last time I'll make that mistake to try them despite the negative feedback.
One I can't stand is Sportsman's Guide. Like, here's the price, unless you join our club for $50, then you get 5% off. Oh, and here's how much shipping is, unless you send us $50, then shipping is free! Horseshit
@@MikeB128 I've bought a few things from them and ammoempire, their "sister" company. The problem is that during the pandemic they pulled cheaper than dirt type shenanigans. They had no problem jacking prices up to astronomical levels and playing the classic firearms game of "in and out of stock" items that they have promoting artificial scarcity. Outside of milsurp ammo, they usually didn't have the best prices on common calibers.
I love SG Ammo. I recommend them to everyone. They have a wide selection of ammo for great prices.
Where I get my 7.62x39 ammo
SG is epic! 💞
Yea SG Ammo is the best esp good deals on hollow point ammunation.
David Belford they kick ass
SG dosent work for me, there site won’t load
Out of the 4 surplus guns I ordered from AIM they were all in better condition than the example posted on the website.‘I learned my Classic Firearms lesson cheap-I ordered some AK mags and they showed up absolutely covered in rust and filled with dirt. They weren’t cheap either-had to totally refinish the damn things. I’ve also had pretty good luck with JG Sales and Atlantic but I’ve only ordered two firearms from them.
Classic is very generous with their interpretation of the NRA finish grades. I ordered a "very good" hi power from them recently and the bare minimum for that ranking is 60% intact finish. Well there isn't a corner on the gun that hasn't had the finish rubbed off (way more than just holster wear would do) and the backstrap is almost bare aluminum. Even the slide, which was parkerized then epoxy coated, is missing most of the epoxy paint and even has some parkerizing worn away (again much more than regular holster wear). Sweaty Ben is as much a shyster as they come.
I like the snowing effect in the video. Thank you for the video.
Don't forget when classic listed pm-63 pistols sold them, cancelled the orders and relisted them for $200 more than they originally had them listed. I also have been told that they are playing a significant part in the death of the surplus market. I have been told by a friend of mine who toured the classic firearms warehouse recently that while they will claim that mosins are out of stock they actually have thousands on the racks in a way of controlling the supply to the market and creating scarcity
Fuck them
Man I've learned so much about Classic in the last couple of years, I'm so happy with my M39 cause I think I found a diamond in the rough. I had never heard of them before and it was marked down with a cracked stock so I took a chance and it's completely fine except for one small divot on the right side. But I've seen so many pictures of fossilized Tokarevs and what not that I will never deal with them again.
Love the look of that model 10-6. Hopefully, there are still some police stations turning them in for surplus. I can stand behind SGammo too, best prices on m1 garand ammo
King's still has some nickel ones for under $300 each, if you're looking.
Still remember the early 90s when you could literally find tables full of revolvers at shows due to leo going semi auto.Wish I'd bought more than I could afford
Shouldn't give up location of my favorite fishing hole but two of my favorite leo trade in suppliers are recoil gun works and kings
Love the muzzle discipline on Classic Firearms videos. Those idiots are always pointing guns at each other.
I love how I find this video in the perfect time. I know it's 2021 as I'm posting this and this is a 2019 video, but I've been looking for a Type 99 Arisaka for a long, long, LONG time. You recommended Empire Arms, I looked and, oh boy. Safe to say I won't be stalking the Gun Shows looking for a Type 99 anymore.
Just starting out with surplus firearms, and I have to thank you for your vids. Even though I’m a vet, I only really interacted with the M16. I like to think that I’m good at researching stuff but it’s so nice to hear a passionate and articulate person give valuable knowledge and experience in your videos. Keep it up, even as the surplus market continues to spiral down
I’ve purchased a few items from classic over the years.. I recognize I over paid for some, and that’s ok, to a degree.
I lost faith in purchasing anymore from them based on a purchase of an enfield. I don’t recall all of the details of what I got, but I had paid for the “hand select” and I’m pretty confident it was the last one.. of one of the last few... and it was pretty much trash.. split stock, loose butt stock, etc.
Mosin is great to deal with. Fair, honest, straight shooter.
Mike you do a great job at showing support for the silent majority gun owners. Never disappointed with your videos!
I bought my first surplus kar98k just recently. got the 8mm ammo from sgammo and it was packaged nice and in good shape. I saw they had a lot of surplus and even new manufacture seemed like they were priced decently, for these hard times. Happy i picked a good one first try and i recommended them to my friend who has more surplus firearms than me.
Invaluable video! I recently bought my first rifle, a 91/30, and had no info for good places to get bullets. Wal-Mart doesn't carry much 7.62x54r. So many gun youtubers get free ammo that it's hard to find them talking about where you should buy it honestly.
Unfortunately, J&G sales have started going the way of Classic. (Although I did get a couple Swiss rifles from Classic last year). A couple small guys I want to point out... Bull Moose Guns, and Panzerfaustarmory.
I use Bullmoose Guns in Mint Hill for a lot of things. Ffl .
SG ammo is my favorite they don't shaft you on shipping
*MIKE B....IDK HOW I FOUND UR CHANNEL OR THIS VID, BUT THANKFUL FOR UR INSIGHT & THOUGHTS & I SUBD/SUPPORT U.
I also love SG, they ship to NY, which is a pain in the ass for most vendors
Ya brother me and my father got screwed by classic firearms they tried to double charge me for some YBO steel AK mags I ordered and my father got screwed when he ordered some psl mags from them online and they showed online were very good to excellent condition but when he got them they were rusted all to hell and the springs inside the mags were seized. Also I almost forgot to tell U they lied to me saying that my bank had my money when I call my bank and spoke to a banker he said that classic lied to me and they basically stole my money and were probably hoping I wouldn’t realize what had happened at the end of the day DONT do business with classic firearms
Very well made vid. Thank you!! Up here in Northern Michigan we don't have big gun stores. Your "endorsed" gun stores I'll defiantly look into ordering from.. Keep up the well made, educational vids.
I have bought 3 guns from Classic Firearms: a Browning Buck Mark that was on sale, a Bulgarian Makarov, and a Swiss 1911 with matching bayonet. I have been happy with my purchases except for the fact that they take a long time to ship and they charge an exorbitant amount for shipping & handling.
But after the shenanigans started to unravel, I refuse to buy from them anymore. The list goes on: plagiarizing photos, cancelling pending orders and relisting items at a higher price, paying off TH-camrs to shill, fake giveaways, listing like 20 options to squeeze out as much money as they can, overpricing and overhyping surplus, etc.
The complaints about Classic are numerous,and varied. I just found your channel. Subbed and faved.
I learned about Aldin Jones at the Mosin Crate from Mike and my son worked part time for SG while attending OSU in Stillwater last year in the warehouse dept. Which is in a secret location, you never guess but there's a yellow tag on the gate. Great people to buy from
I have used AIM and Classic. So far I am happy with both. I have no doubts about the claims people have about Classic. Just has not happen to me........yet. What I like about AIM is they seem to be friendlier and take a little time to BS with you.
Agreed all good sources online. Though nothing beats the hunt locally checking out weapons in person and haggling for a deal. Classic cracks me up with their special or more collectible up pricing on weapons for reasons that don't add value or collectibility. People just need to buy a book and not buy into the hype.
J&G hasn't done me wrong yet. I don't know much about the company but they seem okay and prices have been good. I got a Yugo M48 which the previous owner had carved a Croatian coat of arms on the stock.
Great video Mike! You have a great channel and I much value you opinions. Keep up the great work! 🇺🇸
I like aim surplus. They are pretty upfront on condition of there surplus guns
Sweaty Ben is at it again!
Arms list is pretty good to now i know its more like ebay for guns but you can get good deals and you get to inspect the gun before you buy since its in person
Same ting happened to me from classic firearms, i payed $75 for hand pic for m39 total price I payed was $575 + shipping and I received m39 with 7 big cracks on stock on top Handguard was 12” and 6” crack on only top of the Handguard and 5 more on stock🤬, and they mentioned small crack you can’t even see it in description for not hand picks.
Glad I found your channel!! I subscribed and watching your past video's
Classic burned me too, they sent me a non functional rifle, made me take it to a gunsmith to be sure before they would take it back. I had to pay 2 ffl fees and 3 shipping cost. When I purchased they were selling VG grade rifles and paid +20 for hand picked, the replacement order was for Good grade and was not the condition I paid for, as for hand picked, sure they must have picked it up by hand but that's about it. For the total money I paid I could have bought one in excellent condition. I still buy from them but I don't waste my money on hand picked.
Love SG Ammo. Try to buy from them every payday. Have a Steyr Hahn and they have the factory ammo at a great price. Was paying over twice the price for crap ammo from Precision Cartridge. They feed my AR's and AK's also.
Steinel arisaka and carcano ammo is the best! It's not cheap but it's good stuff.
Check out some of the reviews on Classic on the BBB. Some of them are hilariously unforgivable.
SG Ammo is great. I live in OK so I have to pay sales tax, but the good thing is I usually receive my ammo within 24 hours of placing the order.
Holy shit. I've bought from your site before. Great vid!
Watching this now in 2020, cheaper than dirt seriously jacked prices on ammo a lot.
I have dealt with everybody in your list other than Empire Arms, but I have drooled over their listings in the past. One of my first surplus/trade-in guns was a Hi-Power from Aim. All I have gotten from Alden is a Jericho 941F, but almost every video nearly convinces me to somehow try to order something the next morning while at work.
Any thoughts on J&GSales and KingsFirearmsOnline? They've got some fantastic prices sometimes. I can't say I have seen police trade-ins cheaper than Kings very often, and they seem to have a steady stream of the stuff at all times. They even have cheap trade-in optics often, and have Streamlight TLR-1 HL's for under $50 each still I think (I bought 3).
I totally agree about Cheaper Than Dirt. Their whole bullshit shipping scheme kind of annoys me too (do they still do that?).. I get that it can be good, but it was just an annoying way to shop and after about 5 different orders I had made, I called it quits with them. Further, they're "quite a bit more expensive than dirt" if you ask me.
Just saw a Makarov on Gunbroker for 1,500$... USD.... A Makarov.. sick of this shit.
Gunbroker is notorious for over r everything
Thanks for sharing, shout out to small businesses
SG Ammo is excellent. Great prices and good people!
Personally I’ve gotten f’d over enough that I’m close to giving up on buying surplus from vendors. I bought my first rifle as a 91/30, 1941 production okay cool thing looks like it’s been through Kursk I dig it. Tear the rifle apart and there’s probably a good 1/16-1/8th of material taken out by pitting about halfway down the barrel, first rifle I bought I still haven’t shot it because I’m afraid it’ll Elmer Fudd on me. 2nd was a CZ82 that once again, had a rust hole, this time it went all the way through the barrel. Only one I’ve had success with is a makarov. Thinking about getting an m48 to throw a leupold 4x with German #1 reticle on it because screw getting a real k98 and doing that, but I’m afraid of another flop
I feel a little better but not really that I was not the only person to get screwed on the Enfield.
I live one state over from SG. Before the coof, I could usually expect my order in two days.
Why does classic offer hand select. They sent my pistol pitted, in a bubble mailer, crooked sights and a whole different generation of model from what was described to what they were selling. 1st and last time
SG ammo for 8mm Mauser!!! Can’t find British 303 though =(
Bought a Beretta 81 from classic with hand select option and got a scratched frame dings in the barrel and broken trigger spring. Not even a good graded firearm because it wasn’t functional. They couldn’t send me a spring and wanted me to mail it back for exchange. I picked refund and never been back
RIP southern Ohio gun (sog) bought many surplus items from them, now out of business. Also ky imports
What happened. ?
I got my DSA FAL from AIM and can't say anything negative. Got to the FFL fast despite the snow storms.
Damn, the mosin crate is completely sold out. Luckily he offers time machine rentals so I'll just go back in time to before he was sold out and buy a jericho.
I buy from SG and Aim. Thanks for the other plugs. I liked Classic Firearms but the last few years they seam to be gouging so I just buy elsewhere.
I just subbed to your channel after watching a few of your videos. I am a long time gun enthusiast/hunter/veteran with a decent collection of mostly newer firearms, however I've started to really get interested in the surplus stuff and I'm leaning towards an SKS for my first purchase. Any thoughts on Palmetto State Armory for this? They have them available currently and I have dealt with them recently with a purchase of their 10.5" KS-47 "pistol". Shipping took nearly 2 weeks but it was just before Christmas so I can't be too upset about that. Overall very happy with their products so far. Or is there a better place to look for an SKS?
Side note: I could have bought one in very nice condition from a buddy of mine 10 years ago for $150 but at that time I just wasn't really interested. Now I'm kicking myself. It was a Soviet model as well. Now all you can find are the Chinese ones... 😒
My honest advice would be unless you have deep pockets, maybe grab one or two surplus guns and have that be it. IT's turned in to what classic cars are: A collector's market that prices the average Joe out of the hobby and it's not nearly as fun.
Moral of the story is support the local and small businesses. I refuse to buy from Classic. Their recent inventory only further proves the point that they don't know how to grade and price accordingly and don't care to hire better help to get things straight. I bet this is why IV8888 doesn't do anything with them anymore because I don't recall anything about them since right after they got all the M39s in. From what I have been hearing it's not like you're paying the price for a premium product but paying a premium and getting something that I could find for way less elsewhere. I don't buy my guns online. I always buy from a local dealer and I have always been treated fairly. Sure I bought a couple things from a big box store because they priced some milsurp handguns pretty low for the condition and the fact that it came with the original holster but 95% comes from local shops.
Yeah I get that, but I've also had really good luck buying from reputable companies online. Classic is just an example of a company who doesn't care about anything except money, therefore your likelihood of being disappointed is much higher.
@@MikeB128 oh I agree. There are online retailers that still do right by their customers. I meant for those to be lumped into the small business category because most of the good ones typically are family businesses.
@@92FairladyZ Right on.
Great video.
I remember when they did all that ridiculous price rising, it was uber lame-o..
Love the thumbnail
Bruh I just want to find a frommer Stop in USD that hasn't been sold
CTD was once a GOOD company. Got great stuff at good prices. Twenty years age. No longer. Too bad.
I for sure agree with you about classic firearms. They are a very shitty company to do business with. Never bought anything from cheaper than dirt though.
I haven't had any problems with Cheaper than Dirt, or Bud's Gun Shop. Probably the biggest names around. They both kind of suck for surplus/trade-in/used stuff anyway though as far as pricing goes.
Rant on my friend. Good info
I agree with all of your descriptions and opinions. I have dealt with all of them except The Mosin Crate. Noticed that you didn’t mention J&G Sales. Any thoughts there?
Mark Jones
I’d recommend Mosin Crate, bought several guns from him. Personal service and item is Always as described. J&G sales I’ve had 50/50 satisfaction with but never sent anything back. Good luck, Man.
Any feed back on JG Sales? Thanks for the heads up on the good ones.
I don’t do business with Classic Firearms or Cheaper than Dirt. Classic Firearms is a total crap shoot based on my experience. SGammo is awesome!
Aim Surplus is awesome
Just got divorced, she hates guns(liberal) and I am on a buying rampage of military surplus. I love the old guns. Great video. JGsales.com have nice prices too.
Have you ever heard of dkfirearms and if so are they good and ive been looking into getting a tokarev but i cant decide weather to get a romanian ttc or a m57 witch would you perfer
I've heard of them but haven't dealt with them.
I drive there every other week. .. Nice to see them getting some props.! I've bought 2 m57s from them recently.
Great video thank you for saving my ass from classic. I will buy it from aims
Cheaper than dirt are assholes, got screwed by them years ago, never again.was suspicious of classic, I had a REAL bad experience with buds gunshop, I'll never do business with them again. Thanks
It's sad how the C&R game is basically over. $500 a pop for things that aren't very great quality, with anything decent running up to $800 and more, sad.
I hate classic. They add to many fees for too little benefit. They really rip your ass a new one
Yeah fuck cheaper than dirt. They should be sued for their name cuz it's false advertising. I use Target sports USA and Lucky Gunner for ammo and they seem to be pretty good.
Classic sucks, my m39 I ordered was terrible from them.
Completely agreed with Classic Firearms. Completely shitty company with completely shitty practices. The worst of their new tactics is their bs auctions selling standard milsurp for sky high prices. Someone last year won a Walther P1 with lots of wear and import marks or $800+ bucks. I've gotten a very ratty M57 from them ( imgur.com/a/RmMZA) even though it was rated as being in very good condition. Just a really shady greasy company. Everyone that knows an ounce about milsurp should know to steer clear away from Classic. Last time I'll make that mistake to try them despite the negative feedback.
Yea fuck cheaper than dirt an classic firearms.
One I can't stand is Sportsman's Guide. Like, here's the price, unless you join our club for $50, then you get 5% off. Oh, and here's how much shipping is, unless you send us $50, then shipping is free! Horseshit
SG Ammo is garbage.
They weren't when I made this video, and I still don't think they are, but man are their prices rough.
@@MikeB128 I've bought a few things from them and ammoempire, their "sister" company. The problem is that during the pandemic they pulled cheaper than dirt type shenanigans. They had no problem jacking prices up to astronomical levels and playing the classic firearms game of "in and out of stock" items that they have promoting artificial scarcity.
Outside of milsurp ammo, they usually didn't have the best prices on common calibers.
mosin crate stopped honoring c&r
No, they fucking didn't.....Not all firearms are C&R Eligible....use your head...
Why would I stop honoring C&R licenses?
@@TheMosinCrate Well, the good news is that you won't have to deal with this moron lol.
i'm the 3,000th view yeet