2D vs 3D - The King of Fighters Neowave (Dreamcast vs PlayStation 2) Side by Side Comparison

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  • About the video: An audiovisual comparison of KOF NEOWAVE between Dreamcast and PS2 version. The video shows a Dual Longplay with Mai, King and Yuri Sakazaki (Characters from The King of Fighters series) in the standard difficulty to compare the two games (side by side) whose purpose is of study and learn.
    Note: the Dreamcast version is an unofficial port released in November 2020.
    Support my work on TH-cam: / vcdecide
    - Technical data -
    Full Game Name: The King of Fighters Neowave
    Alternative Name: KOF Neowave/ KOF Neo Wave
    Developer(s): SNK Playmore
    Publisher(s): SNK Playmore
    Release: 2005 (PS2/Official Version) 2020 (Dreamcast/ Unofficial Version)
    Comparative Region: 60 hz
    Genre: Fighting
    Mode: 1 or 2 Players (vs)
    Dual Gameplay by VCDECIDE

ความคิดเห็น • 308

  • @romagnuslarsson7065
    @romagnuslarsson7065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Actually ,Dreamcast version is the Official Atomiswave arcade model for all consoles later

  • @bunkyd
    @bunkyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I really can’t decide! Both the 3D and 2D stages look fantastic. The 3D might have the edge only because the stages changes between rounds so there’s more variety.

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbh It really is not a deal breaker considering how smooth the DC version is and also 3D backgrounds in a 2D game suck anyway. I was expecting 3D models on a 3D background...

  • @VonSeux
    @VonSeux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    hate to say that but those 3d scenarios are pretty damm nice

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They look better than the current 3D kof games. Puzzles me why that is the case

  • @greensun1334
    @greensun1334 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Both are great looking games, but when it comes to fighting games, I always prefer 2D background graphics and sprites as characters, rather than polygons.

  • @mcasias33
    @mcasias33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was when Sony was demanding 3D games for North America. That's why we didn't get SNK vs. Capcom Chaos on the PS2 in NA, but Japan did. I think SNK had to add 3D graphics to KOF 2001, or not release it at all in for the PS2 in NA.

  • @thirdworldrenegade
    @thirdworldrenegade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    17:03 - 17:19
    Dreamcast and Playstation 2, Ray tracing confirmed.

    • @williams4379
      @williams4379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @nicktronson2977
      @nicktronson2977 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right about Yod Hay Waw Shin Waw Ayin(YaHuWSHuWa). A somali offered me a koran and I told him I have the truth in my heart and rejected his offer. So he said " I told you what I believe, so you tell me what you believe." And I told him about The Father YaHuWaH and Son, YaHuSHuWa and when he repeated YaHuSHuWa, we heard a loud ovation and he even said it was angels and we saw a horizontal rainbow and a cardinal was flying across it and we both said it was a miracle. But he is still muslim. Even though the LOUD CLAPPING OVATION happened when the muslim somali said YaHuWSHuWa.
      No one was around us when the loud ovation happened and he was looking behind me and I was looking behind him to see where the ovation came from because the sound of the ovation surrounded us and my heart was pounding in fear like what just happened?
      No matter how much I've stalled THE INEVITABLE FUTURE TIMELINE, THE INEVITABLE FUTURE TIMELINE will come into fruition.
      1. The sick children will be healed with utterrance of THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES, YAHUWSHUWA.
      2. The heavens will open on Earth for all to witness as the angels will commune with the healed children as the children heal the sick and feed the poor in THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES, YAHUWSHUWA.
      3. The multitudes all over the world will learn of YAHUWSHUWA. As that is the true Good News that will be preached and demonstrated for them to witness.
      4. AT THAT POINT THOSE MULTITUDES OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO CALLED UNTO YAHUWSHUWA TO FEED THE POOR AND HEAL THE SICK WILL KNOW THEY WILL NEVER DIE OR BE HURT DURING TRIBULATION.
      5. THOSE HUMAN MULTITUDES WILL LOVE EVERYONE, EVEN THOSE WHO HATE THEM BECAUSE YAHUWSHUWA TAUGHT THEM THAT HIGHEST LEVEL OF LOVE WILL SHOW THAT YOU HAVE ARE SINCERE WHEN YOU CALL OUT TO YAHUWSHUWA. YOU WILL HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT AND REALISE YOUR EXISTENCE WILL BE LOVE AND PARADISE.
      6. THE ANGELS WILL SEPARATE THOSE WITH HATE IN THEIR HEARTS AND INTENTIONS OF VIOLENCE. AS THOSE WHO CALL UNTO YAHUWSHUWA WILL NEVER DO VIOLENCE EVER. SO THOSE WHO CHOSE TO FIGHT WILL BE DOING SIN.
      7.THANKFULLY EARTH WILL BE CHANGED TO HEAVEN EVEN BEFORE THAT PROCESS, WE WILL BE WAITING AS OUR BODY PERMEATES WITH THE BEST FEELING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT DWELLING WITHIN US.
      I FORGOT TO MENTION PEOPLE WILL BE RAISED FROM THE DEAD IN YAHUWSHUWA'S NAME AS THE SICK IS HEALED AND POOR BEING FED HAPPENS....js

    • @willian4428
      @willian4428 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lmao

    • @sscoreriotdx
      @sscoreriotdx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Mohammed. Islam is 🖕🏾 dirty facism shit =)

    • @thekinggamer488
      @thekinggamer488 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sscoreriotdx why the hate......

  • @thefifthdoctor6780
    @thefifthdoctor6780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Still play this on my Dreamcast with arcade stick.

    • @TheSonic497
      @TheSonic497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Dreamcast port was only released like 2 months ago.

  • @sharpester7277
    @sharpester7277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It would be cool if SNK would make a collection of all of their Atomiswave games with online features, extra galleries, rollback net code and the console ports alongside the arcade versions.

    • @GenesHand
      @GenesHand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can do just that over Fightcade. Naomi games too, and soon Naomi 2!

  • @joshualowe959
    @joshualowe959 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    17:42 Young Geese spamming reppukens on the right

  • @sharpester7277
    @sharpester7277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am quite disappointed how the PS2 Version of Neowave wasn’t released in America. While the Original XBOX version was the only console version of the game to get a North American release.

    • @QwertyVisual
      @QwertyVisual 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sony considered sprite games outdated and stopped publishing them in America. That's why Kof Maximum impact was published as Kof 2004.

    • @QwertyVisual
      @QwertyVisual 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @TrueSinister yes, I thought it was the original game, but it was it sequel.

  • @ewrooney
    @ewrooney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The console ports also have 5 extra hidden characters that are not in the arcade ver of the game. Angel, Kusanagi, May Lee, Seth and Omega Rugal. That's worth having one of those ports to me. The PS2 port also looks sharper overall look at the victory screen at 4:21, someone was using PS2 component cables. The game is rigged. :)

    • @IanMicheal
      @IanMicheal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ps2 could never be sharper also lower res not 640x480 vga..

    • @JoaoLucasK
      @JoaoLucasK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vanessa is also hidden in the console ports

    • @IanMicheal
      @IanMicheal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KyokaMaruyama You know the textures cant be changed there on the disk with the game ..Ps2 cant handle better textures it only has 4mb of vram..

    • @KyokaMaruyama
      @KyokaMaruyama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IanMicheal sorry my bad you can soft mod PS2 and give it higher resolution output screen but it doesnt change the main rendering resolution graphics or textures.

  • @RAMCARTGAMER
    @RAMCARTGAMER 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    CRT Wins!

    • @hopetagulos
      @hopetagulos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What? No dithering.

  • @misakisaki2682
    @misakisaki2682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3D has some nice elements but overall I think 2D looks more polished and complete.

  • @galacticaphant0m
    @galacticaphant0m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ahhh good ol dreamcast

  • @FaceTheStreets
    @FaceTheStreets 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    PS2 is much better. Even better than the Atomiswave original. The backrounds change and the music doesn't stop between rounds (I hate when the music stops between rounds. It breaks the mood). PS2 FTW!!!

  • @DicasdoB206
    @DicasdoB206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tava sentindo falta dos seus vídeos

  • @amyrose6541
    @amyrose6541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I never see KOF Neo Wave on the Sega Dreamcast.

    • @Fattydeposit
      @Fattydeposit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's only existed for a few weeks (currently 16 of about 25 Atomiswave arcade games have recently been converted to and released on Dreamcast).

    • @amyrose6541
      @amyrose6541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Fattydeposit I see. At least I got this on original Xbox for old timeshakes.

    • @GPWT-video
      @GPWT-video 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I SEE

    • @jubanumidia8460
      @jubanumidia8460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Fattydeposit can you give us list of Atomiswave games converted to the Dreamcast ?!

    • @ArpeggioPegasusMusic
      @ArpeggioPegasusMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jubanumidia8460 I can say for sure Metal Slug 6, Samurai Shodown VI and KOF XI were converted

  • @iangillan2858
    @iangillan2858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Muy buen vídeo. Gracias de nuevo. En este caso me gustan las dos versiones. No puedo decidirme por una. :)

    • @crissbernal2831
      @crissbernal2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      La de Playstation 2 es mejor los escenarios tienen más animación y 3D y tiene su menú para ver cómo hacer los especiales y todo menos la de Dreamcast esa sin ofender me da asco por que los mejores juegos los tiene el ps2

    • @oscarjimenezgarrido7591
      @oscarjimenezgarrido7591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Que alguien le quite el teclado al niño, por favor...

  • @IanMicheal
    @IanMicheal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    DReamcast version is not a port it's a conversion it's 100% proper arcade perfect same hardware.. ps2 is a port not arcade perfect

    • @GooseDaPlaymaker
      @GooseDaPlaymaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As true as that is, if the arcade gameplay frames and hit data are the same as the arcade, I’d choose the PS2 version. Night and Day version of stages, 3D backgrounds, other game modes (challenge, survival, single player, etc), console-exclusive characters (Seth, Kusanagi, Omega Rugal, Angel, & May Lee Jinju) and color edit makes the PS2 the better experience, in my humble opinion.
      snk.fandom.com/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_Neowave
      Again, that’s with all in-game arcade gameplay data being the same as the original arcade version. If not, I’ll take the Dreamcast/MAME version.

    • @cybermx8896
      @cybermx8896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes ps2 is not a carcade perfect. Is arcade superior version !!!!!!!!!

    • @IanMicheal
      @IanMicheal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cybermx8896 Yes it would be it's not the same engine.. Wanted arcade perfect not messed with it's dreamcast it's the arcade rom after all how the game was meant to be like.. Not arcade perfect on the ps2 if you like it think it's better thats cool.. I dont like ether of these kof games.. i rather neogeo cd kof98

    • @cybermx8896
      @cybermx8896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IanMicheal ok now try to say it without crying ja ja ja ja ja

    • @IanMicheal
      @IanMicheal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cybermx8896 dreamcast is arcade perfect like the game was supposed to be if you played it there... The ps2 version is adding content to sell it ,, if you think the dreamcast could not do the ps2 version your very much mistaken.. it's not the same engine dreamcast version is just the arcade rom

  • @crissbernal2831
    @crissbernal2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To be honest, the one on Playstation is better because it has better graphics and has its own tactics menu.

  • @WILKOF-GAMEPLAYS
    @WILKOF-GAMEPLAYS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Na versão dreamcast /atomis wave as músicas reiniciam a cada round, não sei se é problema do port, mas é uma coisa que me incomoda igual aconteceu com o kof dream match 1999

    • @gelcilagameplays1342
      @gelcilagameplays1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Acho que é assim mesmo no "original", visto que o jogo não foi modificado para rodar no Dreamcast e isso também não parece ser algum tipo de bug.

    • @WILKOF-GAMEPLAYS
      @WILKOF-GAMEPLAYS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gelcilagameplays1342 então é vacilo dos caras mesmo, mas nem importa muito essa kof neo wave é bem sem graça de qualquer forma

    • @MTSouza83
      @MTSouza83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      É assim mesmo. No original do arcade é do mesmo jeito. Nesse caso a melhor versão pra jogar é a do PS2/Xbox porque não tem esse problema do áudio reiniciar, tem a opção de escolher entre os cenários 3D ou o original 2D. Além de personagens extras.

    • @lincolnabbot
      @lincolnabbot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kof 99 não é um Dreamatch :v mas o 98 sim.

    • @WILKOF-GAMEPLAYS
      @WILKOF-GAMEPLAYS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lincolnabbot kof 98 do dreamcast se chama "dream match 1999"

  • @punkbianoretrogamer4314
    @punkbianoretrogamer4314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Baita comparação tmj ai...

  • @Winterfang
    @Winterfang 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow I never knew there was a Dreamcast version of this game.

  • @baronhausenpheffer
    @baronhausenpheffer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Both games look good, but I think the PS2 is the clear winner here. That extra little bit of 3D perspective spiced up what were becoming fairly dated-looking sprite graphics circa 2000 while still looking "drawn" enough to look natural *with* those same sprites.

  • @luzvimindajubahib3666
    @luzvimindajubahib3666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    (c)2005,2024 Embracer Group AB.
    (c)SNK.

  • @dragunov8007
    @dragunov8007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yamazaki seems like a drunk in da artwork

  • @joshualowe959
    @joshualowe959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:58 Young Geese spamming Reppukens

  • @thiagorockbrasil
    @thiagorockbrasil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Snk deveria fazer uma coletânea com todos esses KOFs que ninguém se importa para as atuais plataformas, KOF99,00,01,03, NeoWave, XI,XII e os 3 Maximum Impact.

  • @lukafanatic1816
    @lukafanatic1816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn I didn't knew it had a dreamcast release

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it didnt, it was a atomiswave exclusive until it was ported to ps2 and xbox

    • @lajenehuen260
      @lajenehuen260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The atomiswave is practically identical to the dreamcast hardware-wise

    • @jubanumidia8460
      @jubanumidia8460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lajenehuen260 is there other AtomisWave port to the Dreamcast ?!

    • @lajenehuen260
      @lajenehuen260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jubanumidia8460 I know theres much more.
      I wont list them here, but if you look around you will find a list

    • @gelcilagameplays1342
      @gelcilagameplays1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jubanumidia8460 Todos os jogos Atomiswave funcionarão no Dreamcast já que o hardware é o mesmo. Eles estão fazendo apenas alguns ajustes para o jogo funcionar via GDEmu/ODE/MODE/Serial Port/ETC.
      Até o momento temos aproximadamente metade dos jogos Atomiswave já no Dreamcast.

  • @arielcordoba6603
    @arielcordoba6603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    impresionante que este port de juego y otros en la Dreamcast y eso que no son oficiales para esta consola

    • @RetrOrigin
      @RetrOrigin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No son ports, el Atomiswave es identico al Dreamcast. Las unicas diferencias son que Atomiswave usa cartuchos y guarda sus configuraciones en SRAM (mientras que Dreamcast usa GD-ROMs y guarda en los VMU)

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RetrOrigin y afortunadamente para los hackers, el atomiswave usa el ROM como si fuera GD ROM

    • @Chesshiire-x
      @Chesshiire-x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pues se descubrió que la Atomiswave es la misma Dreamcast pero algo modificada para que sea una maquina "Arcade", realmente la Dreamcast tiene mucho potencial, posiblemente igual de poderosa que la Ps2, por eso de que Microsoft ayudo con su desarrollo y su software, el WinCE

    • @RetrOrigin
      @RetrOrigin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chesshiire-x Dreamcast no tiene tan siquiera la mitad de poder de un PS2 en terminos de reenderizacion de geometria y texturas porque esta muy limitada por su VRAM y su CPU.
      Dreamcast tiene 8MB de RAM de systema y 8MB de RAM de video (16MB en total) Pero el Power VR2 solo puede acceder el RAM de video, por lo que los otros 8MB de RAM de sistema NO existen para nada grafico.
      El Power VR2 puede generar 7 mpps, pero como el Dreamcast solo tiene 8MB de RAM de video, no le alcanza para generar esa cantidad de polygonos, ya que tiene que distribuir el RAM entre geometria y texturas. En promedio, los juegos de Dreamcast solo alcanzan a llegar a 3mpps (millones de poligonos por segundo)para geometria, 5MB para texturas, 8MB en total al maximo)
      PS2 tiene 32MB de RAM de sistema y 4MB de RAM de video, pero su procesador de video SI puede utilizar el RAM de sistem para graficos, por eso en promedio utiliza alrrededor de 34MB para video y 2MB para codigo basico (en promedio 17mpps de geometria y 16~20MB de texturas)
      Ademas el Dreamcast carece de hardware "Transform & Lighting" (T&L para abreviar) por lo que depende de su CPU para calcular geometria e iluminacion, mientras que PS2 tiene un cooprocesador (el Vector Unit 01 o VU1) completamente dedicado a T&L.
      Hay muchas otras diferencias pero honestamente no se de donde diablos saca la gente que el Dreamcast es una maquina poderosa.

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chesshiire-x 1- no se descubrio, siempre se supo y 2- el DC no es tan poderoso como el PS2, graficamente se veia algo mejor por su chip grafico pero en cuanto procesamiento y RAM y todo lo demas, el PS2 lo deja de calle

  • @GamesEcuador
    @GamesEcuador 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Con qué programa grabas los juegos a la vez

  • @jaspion14
    @jaspion14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As 2 versões são boas mas a de PS2 parece mais atual

  • @thunderlightning1980
    @thunderlightning1980 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the arcade version better, that is why I like the Dreamcast. I wish Sega merged with Sammy and made a home system called The Atomiswave!

  • @nohozana
    @nohozana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Shadows look better on ps2, but I prefer the 2d backgrounds on dreamcast over the 3d ones on ps2

    • @bassram3337
      @bassram3337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the game is not on the Dreamcast...it was never there

    • @nohozana
      @nohozana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bassram3337 So VCdecide used the arcade board to compare it to the Ps2? Edit- I just checked and there is a homebrew version released for the dreamcast, so this really is the deamcast version.

    • @bassram3337
      @bassram3337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nohozana it is the Atomiswave version...the fan DC ported one has alot of problems

    • @gabrielebarbone2250
      @gabrielebarbone2250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bassram3337 what problema?

    • @Darknight0681
      @Darknight0681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those backgrounds look awful. If they actually had any parallax and ground stuff going on that would be one thing, but they all looked unnecessarily flat on the arcade game. Not to mention the lack of animations. The PS2 was a major improvement, just like they did for practically every major home port of theirs in it.

  • @MrKain2012
    @MrKain2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never know KOF neowave has released on Dreamcast?

    • @poppunkrockbasscover6747
      @poppunkrockbasscover6747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is a no official ported game.

    • @jodyposey9558
      @jodyposey9558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In fact, the game's arcade system, the Sammy Atomiswave, was actually based on the Dreamcast, so the fans have hacked the system to be playable on the actual Dreamcast.

  • @user-cn9mz4hf8i
    @user-cn9mz4hf8i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DreamcastとPlayStation2 どちらが性能面がいいの❔ 画質などを知りたいです。

  • @akah
    @akah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Eu acho que essa é a lifebar mais feia de todos os tempos.
    Eu odiava jogar o NeoWave no arcade, porque tinha muito pouco tempo para escolher o char.

  • @cybermx8896
    @cybermx8896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dreamcasr arcade perfect!!!!!
    PS2 Is an arcade superior version !!!!!!!!!

  • @gelcilagameplays1342
    @gelcilagameplays1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ótima comparação. Traga mais comparações dos novos jogos Atomiswave de Dreamcast, por favor.
    Esse KoF é bem obscuro para mim e parece ser bem fraco.
    A versão do PS2 foi aprimorada, então ela leva essa. Os cenários 3d do PS2 são show de bola mesmo, deram mais vida ao jogo.
    As sombras no PS2 estão melhores por não ficarem piscando. A música também continua no PS2 entre os rounds, o que dá uma dinâmica melhor ao jogo.
    Tecnicamente os jogos na prática são iguais, é tão bom quanto no Dreamcast, mas o PS2 ganha essa pelas vantagens acima.

    • @GabrielSooS
      @GabrielSooS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sem contar que o do PS2 a gente pode mudar dificuldade, tempo, algumas coisas do gráfico, áudio, mudar detalhes dos personagens e algumas coisas a mais

  • @pietronunes1503
    @pietronunes1503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No ps2 dá pra colocar o cenário em 2d também nas opções

  • @tonilarios
    @tonilarios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If I had to frame and hang one static background version on the wall I would pick the Dreamcast but, when you see the PS2 backgrounds in action they totally steal the show.

  • @veterano-gamerxp
    @veterano-gamerxp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PS2 WINS! Perfect

    • @iamgamer7042
      @iamgamer7042 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amigo ,venho lembrar ,se você teve chance de jogar no Dreamcast, as versões de KOF 98,99 . Ambos em 3D. Lindos de mais para época, hoje pode ser portado essa versão de ps2 fielmente ao Dreamcast. Completando a coleção Legado do Dreamcast.

  • @M.Eufratez
    @M.Eufratez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    O último KOF lançado que realmente gosto.

  • @odlaliren2432
    @odlaliren2432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ps2 Win

  • @itzelvenmage7434
    @itzelvenmage7434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s the time Dreamcast died and PS2 continued, it was fan ported later for the Dreamcast which was supposed to be ported from the arcade to the Dreamcast by the developers themselves. But final verdict the ps2s 3D animation and menu with new characters are superior to the Dreamcast 2D version.

    • @Nothing1978
      @Nothing1978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, it is not a port it is the real neowave game running on a Dreamcast

    • @LCmedel
      @LCmedel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The DC version isn't a port. It's a 1:1 "conversion" of the arcade (dc and atomiswave have the same architecture)
      But I imagine that dc can handle 3d backgrounds (like kof 98 and 99 evo) if snk decides to give an official port

    • @lazarushernandez5827
      @lazarushernandez5827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LCmedel I believe Marvel Vs Capcom 2 on the DC uses this 3D background technique.

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LCmedel Dreamcast will never get any official ports of the game as Sega no longer supports the DC, or any of their consoles. It would have to be up to the fans to port the PS2 version over themselves.

    • @LCmedel
      @LCmedel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bloodreign1 yeah, but i mean that neowave would have ported back if the dc haven´t died in 2001

  • @pedraoxr
    @pedraoxr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    N existe versão de dreamcast, só teve um port da rom para rodar no console.Então a comparação aí na real é Arcade x PS2.

    • @Lordicus21
      @Lordicus21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A versão Dreamcast é recente, não oficial - feita por fãs.

  • @milfilosofia4994
    @milfilosofia4994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Os cenários desse jogo são bonitos pra caralho, mas o que deixa eles sem graça é a falta de torcedores ao fundo, fica muito morto, na minha opinião

  • @DiegoMartinez-nl3ob
    @DiegoMartinez-nl3ob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me gusta más la iluminación y fluides de ps2

  • @etrotm12thebluewolf15
    @etrotm12thebluewolf15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now i know why it says Dreamcast on the left! I never knew the Sammy Atomiswave was based on Dreamcast (And Naomi too).
    But yes, I think i like he 3D stages in this game much more better. I dont know why but I like seeing 2D sprites fight in a 3D environment! And if ANYONE planning on getting this game for homes, get the PS2 version cuz there are more characters, the Xbox version may have better graphics but overall doesnt have as many fighters as the PS2 version does. (Which is strange honestly)

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      X-Box version also has longer load times between rounds, and 2 less characters (May Lee and Angel) than the PS2 version has. It also doesn't really look better at all.

  • @historiarevista
    @historiarevista 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Pensei que esse jogo não tinha saído pra nenhum sistema. Os cenários em 3d ficaram bem legais como de costume mas ainda parece que foi tudo feito na pressa e podia ser melhor. Mas foi uma boa sacada essa do cenário mudar de ângulo quando vai pra outro round. Já que fizeram todo o resto ainda podiam dar uma ajeitada nos marcadores que são esse 3d falso que não enganava ninguém no original e no ps2 ficou ainda mais feio.

    • @milfilosofia4994
      @milfilosofia4994 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      que marcadores?

    • @historiarevista
      @historiarevista 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@milfilosofia4994 as barras de energia e fotos dos lutadores

  • @luisfernandomiguelpiris252
    @luisfernandomiguelpiris252 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ¿Qué Paso Con El Final?

  • @mauriciomascarenhas8458
    @mauriciomascarenhas8458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Os cenarios em 3D muito mais bonito

  • @micshork
    @micshork 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't recall a Dreamcast version. That looks like the Arcade version.

    • @jodyposey9558
      @jodyposey9558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's because the game's arcade system, the Sammy Atomiswave, was actually based on the Dreamcast, so the fans have hacked the system to be playable on the actual Dreamcast.

  • @vitormlb
    @vitormlb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something is wrong: this game was launched years after Sega discontinue DC. NeoWave for DC looks like a hack: in order select you have but one A,B and C...but DC does not have the "C" button. Someone put real effort to make it work, but compare thinking on who is the best is kind of unfair

    • @javiereduardo3617
      @javiereduardo3617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is arcade mod for dc

    • @vitormlb
      @vitormlb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@javiereduardo3617 that's nice, it may be applicable to other AtomWise games!

  • @stevenwhuntva
    @stevenwhuntva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hopefully someone can get some license rights to make these legit releases.

    • @natejennings5884
      @natejennings5884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have the original Xbox version of KOF Neowave, but it's the digital release for XB1.

  • @user-dd4ql3cm8x
    @user-dd4ql3cm8x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NeoWAVEにDC版があるのを知らなかった!

  • @ricardonunes838
    @ricardonunes838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3d very very very wonderfull !!!!

  • @realamericannegro977
    @realamericannegro977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didnt know it was on Dreamcast

  • @doafan455
    @doafan455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait a minute, did que have this KOF for the Dreamcast ? O_o

    • @ArpeggioPegasusMusic
      @ArpeggioPegasusMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a homebrew port of the Atomiswave version of the game.

  • @funnyvalentine7788
    @funnyvalentine7788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ps2 wins

  • @jodafro619
    @jodafro619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the ps2 port wins hands down. there's NO parallax scrolling with the stages on the dc (arcade port). but the ps2 has that and many more improvements

    • @Darknight0681
      @Darknight0681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s not parallax scrolling, the PS2 stages were entirely redone to be in 3D. That’s why they look better on a whole, especially considering that they did a good job of keeping the aesthetic intact.

  • @rainner31
    @rainner31 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Las ilustraciones de los personajes,no las hizo Shinkiro?.

    • @Chesshiire-x
      @Chesshiire-x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SNK se fue a la bancarrota en el 2000, su ultimo juego oficial con todos los integrantes fue la 00, ya de ahí el 01 y el 02 lo hicieron eolith con algunos miembros del team original, ya para el 2003 Playmore que fue fundado por varios de los ex-integrantes de SNK recupero el control completo y tomo las riendas de nuevo, pero se perdió a Shinkiro ya que el se fue a trabajar para Capcom.

  • @chacal231077
    @chacal231077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi!
    You could indicate that this is an Atomiswave port on Dreamcast to avoid the confusion of a pure original Dreamcast port.
    Thank you
    Sincerely James

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The person running this channel is a massive Sega fan, no way does she do that to avoid hurting Sega's reputation.

  • @staysharp2453
    @staysharp2453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3d and paralax effect makes everything better. Cant understand the complaints to the ps2 version

    • @agapitojuliano5517
      @agapitojuliano5517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This channel is almost 99% of sega fanboys, thats's it.

    • @ostiariusalpha
      @ostiariusalpha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's kind of true that this is a fanboy sausage fest around here, but there is indeed something a little bit off with the PS2 version. The superior parallax of the 3D environment is really quite nice, but the mismatch in textures and lighting between the characters and background makes the fighters come across more like paper cutouts moving around. The background's sense of depth would have been a clear win for the PS2 if they had spent a little more time integrating the characters into it, rather than simply copy pasting the 2D sprites. For instance, you see Mai and Yashiro fighting under bridge lamps in the PS2 version, but their brightness values don't change at all; like they aren't even really present.

    • @systemofadown1986
      @systemofadown1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ostiariusalpha Maybe those 3d background would look better with a crt or a scanline shader

    • @agapitojuliano5517
      @agapitojuliano5517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @TrueSinisterSurely u don't known this channel. See more vids and comments section and u will understand.

    • @dustineffler7658
      @dustineffler7658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the graphics look great on both to be honest! But I loved how the PS2 version went from Day to Night on that first stage while Dreamcast did not! Reminds Me of Waku Waku 7! (Sega Saturn) :) Now to get back to the video!

  • @laumpolumpio
    @laumpolumpio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Atomiswave/Dreamcast version looks so ugly with those blurry/low res and static prerrendered backgrounds with 0 parallax, no floor line scrolling, no crowd, no nothing.... I didn't knew the PS2 port had remade background graphics, I only had the xbox one bitd, the port for the og xbox not for the xbox one.

    • @Darknight0681
      @Darknight0681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The PS2 ports of almost ALL of those titles did this. Not to mention also decreasing the load times. They were far superior to the Atomiswave in virtually every major respect.

  • @taesookim7530
    @taesookim7530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    드림캐스트로 내오웨이브가 나온적이 없는데... 버튼도 드캐버전이라면 a,b,x,y로 나와야지

  • @alphaone6665
    @alphaone6665 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was not the Dreamcast version,it was Atomiswave arcade version,
    So it means you haven't got any practice mode,cannot change the
    level,time set,and the other options, so why should I have to choice this
    semi-finished products for play?

    • @mint_kyuu99
      @mint_kyuu99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Atomiswave version was converted and ported to the Dreamcast very recently, like 2 weeks ago

    • @alphaone6665
      @alphaone6665 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mint_kyuu99 I've known that some amazing guy converted the Arcade roms into Dreamcast version,but still my questions above haven't got solved.
      although it's fine to be able to play some games which were never ran on a console before.

    • @mint_kyuu99
      @mint_kyuu99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alphaone6665 Well, there aren't other modes like practice mode, and you can change the options modifying the game files. It's quite tedious but it works

  • @raitoningusutoreto9851
    @raitoningusutoreto9851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ps2 better because parallax and more animations, but Dream has nice sprites anyway.

  • @luizcarlosdasilvaalmeida4930
    @luizcarlosdasilvaalmeida4930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Cenários totalmente sem graça e feios pra kacete em ambas as versões ! Pelo menos os sprites dos personagens estão menos pixelados. Saudades da equipe técnica que nos deu obras de arte gráficas como kof 95,96 e 98...

    • @milfilosofia4994
      @milfilosofia4994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pra mim os cenários tão bonitos pra caralho, o que deixa sem graça é a falta de torcedores ao fundo, fica parecendo algo morto. Pelo menos minha opinião é essa

    • @FhannyXerox888
      @FhannyXerox888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oldschcool KOF 2000 MasterPiece

    • @gelcilagameplays1342
      @gelcilagameplays1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As artes do 97 também são show de bola. Uma das melhores.

    • @renrezcrypto6155
      @renrezcrypto6155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@milfilosofia4994 Os torcedores faziam muita diferença

  • @wilderness_over
    @wilderness_over ปีที่แล้ว

    PlayStation 2 Win Can you imagine what the dreamcast with DVD would be like?

  • @user-ox7qj9ml5s
    @user-ox7qj9ml5s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    性能あまり関係無いよね
    有るとすれば メモリ容量くらいかな?
    あとは開発時期と期間だよね

  • @dbzeh6837
    @dbzeh6837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What amazes me is that Neowave (and some of the 2k ones) had pretty good 3d stages but Rebout as terrible ones!!! Usually I prefer the 2d ones but Kof01, 02 had the worst in the series, the 2d is welcome, but the laziness made them create some weird ones on Kof94 Rebout and they never bothered making the old ones in hires.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Crazy thing about 2001 is that the art for the backgrounds are sick but it looks like fuzzy and badly pre rendered stuff. I have seen gifs of them on google that somehow looks like the pixels typically used in KoF games and they are someone of the best in the series then

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do know you can play Rebout with the new sprites over the old backgrounds right? And the sprites don't actually clash with the backgrounds.

    • @dbzeh6837
      @dbzeh6837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bloodreign1 Yeah but the hi-res sprites look off when u play with old backgrounds. They didn't even bother to remake them like the character sprites. It's lazy.

  • @edsonribeiro8500
    @edsonribeiro8500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PS2 WINS

  • @kingsdream7876
    @kingsdream7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could have sworn DreamCast was also in 3d in backgrounds? Am I wrong???

    • @GooseDaPlaymaker
      @GooseDaPlaymaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are wrong. The arcade and this Dreamcast port did not have 3D backgrounds, nor did they have night and day version of stages. Geese Howard’s stage goes into a whole other lower level of his mansion on the second round for PS2.

    • @chrisb6079
      @chrisb6079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You might be getting this atomiswave port mixed up with the dreamcast port of KOF 99 (KOF Evolution)

  • @parrishharris3008
    @parrishharris3008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 3D game looks more beautiful than it's 2D counterpart of course.

  • @andre20buscar
    @andre20buscar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dreamcast was a lost jewel.

  • @senorsnipey1595
    @senorsnipey1595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a shame the DC got shafted like this bc we all know it was a very capable system

  • @fernandobroca
    @fernandobroca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    o Port do DC vem da Atomiswave, não roda perfeito no Dreamcast ainda via CD, apenas GDEMU. Fora que as sombras dos personagens do Dreamcast contém falhas ainda devido ao port caseiro da Atomiswave. PS2 vence essa, gráficos 3D nos cenários estão muito bem feitos.

    • @sandromarquesferreira7321
      @sandromarquesferreira7321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ata vai dizer q o Neo wave do ps2 é um jogo propio do console?não deixa de ser um jogo portado e remodelado em alguns aspectos para o console da sony,se tivesse tempo de ter lançando oficialmente é claro que no dreamcast iriam trabalhar melhor o port como fizeram com o kof 99,sendo que nenhum versão de qualquer game que saiu primeiro pro dreamcast foi igual ou melhor no ps2,sendo o Dreamcast vitorioso

    • @LCMSRJ
      @LCMSRJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Claro que a versão PS2 vai "vencer", pois um jogo que foi remodelado, lançado dois anos após o porte do SEGA Dreamcast fica melhor em alguns aspectos. Podem trabalhar os cenários, os sprites dos personagens, deixar o jogo mais fluído entre outros. Diferentemente quando os jogos são lançados simultaneamente às plataformas (consoles). Em suma, podem haver datas diferentes de lançamentos na mesma região, porém já finalizados e portados, sem refazer o jogo.

    • @fernandobroca
      @fernandobroca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "se" tivessem tempo, "se" fosse lançado, como não aconteceram esses "se", o port de Dreamcast é caseiro e deficitário com relação ao PS2, portanto volto a concluir, PS2 wins

    • @fernandobroca
      @fernandobroca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sem mencionar as músicas no DC que ficam reiniciando entre os rounds, mais um ponto negativo.

    • @gelcilagameplays1342
      @gelcilagameplays1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fernando, via porta serial esse jogo roda perfeito também.
      A versão do PS2 ficou melhor por causa do cenário, na minha opinião.
      E essa questão da música reiniciar rola no Arcade também, né?
      Ainda bem que ajeitaram isso no PS2.

  • @theskorpio1
    @theskorpio1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my opinion ps2 destroyed the dreamcast here

  • @realamericannegro977
    @realamericannegro977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 3d backgrounds look way better. They nearly look like sprite work in some cases. The 2D prerendered stuff looks too fake

  • @ResidentNotEvil5
    @ResidentNotEvil5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played dreamcast version was too good

  • @imnotayoutuber8494
    @imnotayoutuber8494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DC version looks awesome for the port

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      not DC, atomisvae, technicly the same thing but in ROM cartdridge form instead of GD ROM

    • @imnotayoutuber8494
      @imnotayoutuber8494 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omegarugal9283 oh I know, they were very similar in the way they're built. Which is what let's the port even happen as the hardware is nearly identical.

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imnotayoutuber8494 i bet that Sammy bought the leftover naomi/DC parts from sega to build the atomiswave

    • @Dylan_Nash
      @Dylan_Nash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omegarugal9283 Sammy actually bought controlling stake in SEGA some time ago.

  • @user-gi1lm7oi5u
    @user-gi1lm7oi5u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ドリキャス版あったのか

  • @marcelopastor2514
    @marcelopastor2514 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 2d is the Best!!

  • @bassram3337
    @bassram3337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    KOF NeoWave was never released on DC. it was released on the Atomiswave then the PS2 received a port later

    • @JorgeMetal579
      @JorgeMetal579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Recently some people has been working on Atomiswave to DC conversions. KOF XI, MS6, SamSho VI, and others are being converted for DC, i think they have 40% of Atomiswave library converted as of now

    • @Fattydeposit
      @Fattydeposit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JorgeMetal579 Indeed. As of this comment they've converted about 16 out of about 25 (in about the space of a month)

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Fattydeposit soon the entire atomiswave library will be playable in the dreamcast... except maybe the games that use special input harnesses like the lightgun ones...

    • @thalesonic
      @thalesonic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was playing on my Sega Dreamcast like, literally, a few minutes ago...

  • @quati44
    @quati44 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Proximo faz com king of fighters 2002 UM 👍🏻🤝🏻

  • @crissbernal2831
    @crissbernal2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Siendo honesto se ve mejor la verdad las del ps2

  • @alienbishop
    @alienbishop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love 3d

  • @fernandojeremyayalasilvera6141
    @fernandojeremyayalasilvera6141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nose, las dos estan bien preciosas xd

  • @ezequielranne3558
    @ezequielranne3558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    La SEGA Dreamcast tiene mejor definición y algunos escenarios están mejor hechos que su contrapartida, pero los escenarios de la PS2 son hechos a base de polígonos, lo que les da perspectiva visual, además de que estos pasan del día a la noche a la vez que tienen algún que otro agregado y movimientos extras!!!

  • @luzvimindajubahib3666
    @luzvimindajubahib3666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you wait Update.

  • @thephatfacegamer5765
    @thephatfacegamer5765 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dreamcast.lool.a.little rugged but I suppose there's something about the old skool art

  • @Crystallums
    @Crystallums 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The PS2 version looks better, but not by much! the problem is the game, since NeoWave is somewhat repetitive...

  • @marciorafael6177
    @marciorafael6177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dreamcast 2D.

  • @Johnchermond
    @Johnchermond 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    KOF NEW WAVE IS NOT RELEASED ON the DREAMCAST console
    Ps: o layout do jogo é horroroso

    • @gelcilagameplays1342
      @gelcilagameplays1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Não foi lançado, mas está rodando nele agora por que a placa de Arcade deste jogo é basicamente uma placa de Dreamcast que pega cartuchos.
      Só descobriram isso recentemente, por isso esses jogos (todos os jogos Atomiswave) estão sendo ajustados para rodar no Dreamcast apenas agora.
      Ps: Esse jogo é feio mesmo, é um KoF bem obscuro que quase ninguém costuma citar.

    • @fabiojuniooliveira6862
      @fabiojuniooliveira6862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pra mim é bem parecido com o 2002. Se a jogabilidade for boa então é um ótimo jogo independente de ser bonito ou não

    • @Johnchermond
      @Johnchermond 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gelcilagameplays1342 sim a atomswave mas digo que não é um lançamento oficial,agora que os caras tao dando um jeito de rodar no proprio dc rs

    • @mukiex4413
      @mukiex4413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone has been porting Atomiswave games to Dreamcast super-recently. It's a super impressive effort. They probably already said that below in... Portuguese? But I'm adding it here in English just in case.

    • @mariobalbinojunior
      @mariobalbinojunior 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eu ja joguei esse jogo no arcade, mas não lembro dos cenários serem em 2D.... era 2D no arcade?

  • @elcapo1890
    @elcapo1890 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    De verdad salió para Dreamcast Cúando murió la consola antes ke Saliera este juego

  • @lailanitaganap2402
    @lailanitaganap2402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dreamcast wins easy and came out 2 years before.

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The DC version is just the arcade version unofficially ported to the DC, and lacks the extra characters that the PS2 version has, so no. There's also a blur filter on the arcade version that you cannot disable.

  • @jasonkraft4672
    @jasonkraft4672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty much same

  • @GameStartXbox
    @GameStartXbox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best is the xbox version

  • @tatis5558
    @tatis5558 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No noto diferencia
    Alguien como yo?