I'm old, I have a Job, family and other grownup shit to do. I have no time for career grinds, the time I have for video games in general is very low. That being said if you love cars, sim racing and realism RF2 is no brainer. It's the go to sim for engaging single player races. The force feedback is superb and the connection to the cars and road is just outstanding. Buy it!
In my opinion hands down the best Sim. I drive a real Cayman in real life and the Cayman mod on steam is very close to real life physics. I love it! RF2 has amazing mods
Real life? You can literally setup hack your way to better lap times, you realize that right? Throwing the gt cars into corners like carts and removing their sway bars increases your lap times my 1-3 seconds sometimes
@@putinski666 Depends, but cheating does not count here. ;) I mean, if you take a basic setup and do your best on track, good pace can be made with enough practice.
The career mode thing seems rather an odd criticism to me. Which sim has a good career mode? ACC/AC/R3E/iR/AMS2: all of them just set up a few races in a row for you. I don't think career mode has much purpose in a sim. You practice tracks and you race the AI or online. You know you are progressing because you have to raise the AI rating or you are placing higher online. If that isn't enough to keep you coming back, then sims probably aren't your thing. Personally I love jumping into rF2 and seeing what I fancy every day. The range of options is immense. And gradually I get better, which is deeply satisfying. An online rating system would be great and I'm sure will come soon, but first we need to get player numbers up. You can't avoid slower cars if there is only one split.
If you want career mode, buy Forza. But I think single player championships would be nice to have. And of course a better online experience, although I've had a lot of fun in the competition system when the grids have been decent.
Now again, people saying what we should play. Of course we can play forza (an arcade game) or Project Cars2 that has a decent career mode. But Rfactor2 has the best physics, best AI, best FFB, and I just want to play it offline in a career mode that never will be developed. Why? because not all people have the time to play and compete with other people, but love simulators as Rfactor2
@@JavierRollon I get you but I play offline a lot as well and to be honest I don't expect a full career mode in a real simulator. I do expect to be able to organise offline championships though, and that I think will one day come to Rf2.
@Da-zed I think he means a Championship Series starting in Normal cars or lower GT4. Then Gaining Experience and improving against an AI. Because Many Grown Men actually have Jobs!! Not involving Video games. And want a more Relaxed experience without sacrificing Realism!! Thought I’d help. You seem a bit Aggressive. Like you’re the only one with an opinion !! I’d work on that!!
Lack of real single-player game modes is a problem for so many of the sim racing games. It's a shame, and really weird given how little time should be needed to throw together a list of events and a progression system. (Something that could be done by junior team members, too, while the senior people still focus on the core sim.) I look at rFactor 2 and AMS2 and think they look like lovely simulations, but I would have nothing to actually do in them, other than random races. I want something to work through, and I only care about single-player (at least for now). Over in the non-sim racing area, there's loads to choose from, but the physics are unrealistic and support for proper racing wheel and ultrawides and correct FOV etc. is all missing. You can't win in either camp at the moment. Better, fairer, more human AI that doesn't ram you off the track or have superhuman performance in some situations (and lackluster performance in others, so you're constantly adjusting difficulty) would also be nice (at least in AC, which is where must of my experience is), but I can understand how that's a much harder problem to solve than adding a simple career mode, so I'm more forgiving of that.
I think the best single-player sim racer is Project Cars 2. The career mode offers a progression system in different series (GT, single-seater, TC, rally and prototype). Plus there are track invitation races and manufacturers events.
I've always enjoyed rF2 but found it to be complicated in every aspect. The old menus, the replays / cameras, the mod system with its packages, just everything seemed overly hard to like. Literally every other sim is better in those aspects but rF2 does have a great feeling so many racers give it a pass.
"Why should I use 3rd party apps to play a sim game?" - Asks a guy who most likely uses content manager, shaders patch and all the other jazz for AC. The workshop syncing at the start of the game is actually pretty nice from my POV. In fact you don't need to do anything while the game keeps the workshop items up to date. Is see it as time that I have gained to do other stuff instead of checking forums if my mods are still up to date. :)
I'm of the school of thought that you shouldn't need any mods or launchers whatsoever to get a fun experience out of a game, they should just be used to enhance the experience, optionally, after you're done with the default content. If you look at some of the classics like GTR2, the game didn't need any mods to be a complete game, it had all the basics: training mode (similar to gran turismo licenses, really good stuff), a complete championship mode, a complete track list and really well modeled cars for the time. That didn't stop the game from having one of the best modding scenes of all, time, but you didn't *need* any of that stuff to have fun with it. Same goes for Automobilista, game has a crapton of quality content out of the box (especially if you get it with DLCs) including multiple race series.
rFactor2 is great but it's always been an ongoing project with a lot of promise that's never fully achieved (yet). I will be honest, I haven't played it for around 6 months. The main reason being that actually getting a great experience takes a lot of time and patience which I normally don't have. You could describe it as feeling very "raw" in every area which is a good thing sometimes but obviously it can also break the experience a bit in some situations or for some people. Once you get that great experience there is probably nothing like it. I love oversteery cars and rF2 is extremely oversteery. A bit to the unrealistic side for some situations but it feels great. I think it's a must have for any simracer. rF2 is updated pretty often. S397 is great and although they are a relatively small studio, they do a lot of work. Do try classic content. In my opinion this is where rFactor2 really shines. Especially the march and mclarens made by S397. They give an awesome feeling which I haven't been able to replicate in any other sim.
The new UI is a big step up. The main reason why I rarely play rFactor 2 is because there are no camera options in VR - specifically it's not possible to lock to horizon, so instead the horizon bounces up and down while driving. I've gotten used to it, so I no longer get motion sickness from it. Still, most other moderns sims have some sort of lock to horizon feature.
The reasons why you say rF2 is not worth it are the same as for your favorite sim AC I think (career mode in AC is not very interesting for example)? And official content is often on sale on Steam in packs, e.g. the GT3 pack or Endurance packs are in the Lunar Sale at the moment and the base game as well. And today Studio 397 announced Season 1 for racing online in the Competition System. And yes, the games is quite old already, but in all these years we more or less got a new game with DX11, VR support, a lot of other graphical updates, some of the best tracks and cars in Sim Racing today and since a few weeks a new and fresh UI.
All great points but I am surprised that you didn't mention the price in a discussion of worth except in passing. RF2 is significantly more expensive than all of its competitors except for iRacing. I have full versions (i.e. all DLC) of most of the major sims and simcade games (AC, ACC, AMS2, F1 '19 and '21, PC2, FH4, NFS, Dirt Rally 1 and 2) and I have only been serious about the genre for a couple of months. I often compare the same car and/or track between 2 or 3 games back to back to learn more about them or to perfect setups. I looked long and hard at iRacing and RF2 but I couldn't get past the limited content in the base versions and the cost of the DLC. Perhaps they will be more attractive over time. Given the hours that we spend in sim racing games, ultimately any sim racing game will be worth it in time. The more expensive games need either valuable features (like great multiplayer matchmaking) or the payoff will take longer.
rF2 and it's DLC go on sale regularly. The discounts are substantial. I didn't pay significantly more for rF2 vs what I paid for AC or ACC. But if I take the amount of fun I got from the sim into consideration, then ACC scores the worst (zero fun, runs like crap on a vr headset..) AC is well worth it (hundreds of hours played) and rF2 is the best in my eyes. The most fun and best feeling sim, with just about the price of AC. (About one hundred hours played)
While single item is rather expensive in rf2 there are also plenty of content packs which are often on sale. So you can buy all gt3 content (I guess it's 13 cars or sth) for 20 bucks - it's not expensive at all
For a good multiplayer you need to find a league. It can be quite tough finding one but when you are driving in one the racing is really great with an awesome vibe Especially GTE Prototype endurance racing
I'm new to sim racing as an INDYCAR fan and we are finally getting cars in games. Project Cars 2 was on sale for less than $10 so of course I got it. I'll be waiting for RF2 and others to be on sale before I get it
A really big plus in rf2 imo is: the adjustable mirrors. This should be in every sim. It could be little bit better but its oké. Mirror view could be a bit better. The resolution is perfect compare with other sim but the tear is terrible. Overall its a great sim 👍🏼 🚦 🏁
@@yrtracingteam106 Unfortunately, the mirrors in assetto Corsa when played on a VR headset, are actually the best. The image they reflect changes as you move your head around. This is unfortunate because I don't race AC anymore... I'm always on rF2.
The area where rfactor Realy gets unbeatable are those leagues. Take a look at things like vec, p1lms and virtual Lemans series and everything just clicks into place. Yes, rfactor is not the sim for the daily after work Jump into 3 quick and engaging online races, there are other sims for it that can do it much better. (iracing comes to mind) But for huge league's and endurance racing, rfactor is king. When you then already got some team mates, snd you train together on the track for the next upcoming race, it just feels so real, already in training. And the anticipation just raises till it reaches race day, and then you find your self in a grid with over 50 cars ahead of an 12h race, and it's just so well done. How the sun sets in the latter stages, the weather, the feeling of driving this car - it feels like just real racing, and that's where rfactor outshines every other sim. Yes, they are leagues for other Sims as well, but rfactor just is on another level in terms of endurance racing in leagues.
Rfactor 2 is my favorite sim. It just has the best steering wheel feel by far imo. I haven't played iRacing though, and don't plan to. It's the only one that allows me to dig more and more and feel exactly where I'm gaining that extra tenth, lap after lap. No guessing what the physics are doing at all. I only bought it last year after playing the original for five years in the 00s and my only regret is not doing so much sooner. It also supports simulated historical grids better than AC or Automobilista. If I want to run a championship I can keep a spreadsheet, not a problem. :)
Spreadsheet works way better for keeping track of a championship than some weird game menu anyway. You dont have to install a old game and check your savefile, just open the spreadsheet and you can see everything you need instantly
Good video. I have played rfactor2 for 700 hours and I have to say I never had bad experiences in open lobbies. Maybe I had luck, but I played it very often in mp mode. But I mostly played it with official dlc content, because it's much better as free workshop mods. Maybe The paywall of official content is too high for crashkidz like in your video....! :-) Furthermore I think rf2 has one of the greatest AIs, so you can have very good races in sp. But the biggest con in my opinion is that there is no way to host a mp race local on your PC. In the former version with the old old ui this was possible. I could create mp sessions with or without AIs and have some fun with my steam buddies. But now.... Only dedicated server hosting is possible I think. And this was the main reason why I changed too ac, ams2 and acc now....! But 700 hours rf2 will stay in my mind. Driving and ffb is still very good!
Unless the laws of physics change, simulators aren't getting any more realistic than rF2 already is. The improvements will be seen on other areas, such as graphics, sounds etc.. The physics are already pretty much on point since motorsports teams started making use of sims.
You should press "3". It hurts my eyes, that you didn't use the virtual mirrors. They are very well implemented. To rf2: Yes. It can be a beast. But it's the best sim out there in my opinion. The real weather plug-in is the best plug-in I know - because it uses teal data: But it uses it in real time. It's the only sim I know, that can change the weather during I race. So you have to check the weather forecast DURING a race. It's so damn immersive. S397 is working on a rating system. They will implement it. And the ui will be changed in the completion system, too.
I recently bought this sim and I fell in love. There is absolutely no reason not to buy the base game for the sale price. I only have an old G27 but the FFB experience is sooo good and I've been having so much fun racing against the AI on various tracks and cars. I guess I'll get a bit bored soon because of the lack of Multiplayer system, but the sim experience is well worth the money
@@hzrd2op400 It does and it even has a competition system, but there aren't many players on it and I don't own any paid content, so I'm limited to choose only the free content series. Racing AI has been very fun, but I do hope they improve the competition system so it attracts a big player base.
I think custom championships or a career mode where you start off on the low end of motorsports and work your way up to the top of the line race cars would be cool for rF2, but I don't know how difficult it would be to make the code for all that work
Every time I give RFactor 2 another try, I find myself saying "Wow, that was awesome", and "Why don't I drive it more?". And I guess the answer to the question is that I get sucked in to the competitive online racing (iracing). But rfactor 2 is incredible.
Top video on rfactor2 and generally! I mean, you are really talented and very honest to explain interesting things how they are! Really interesting and very useful!! Hats off!! 😃😃👍👍
That's right. Boris mentioned that its possible to work with rFactor 2's servers. rF2's competition system has been one of its biggest drawbacks. LFM integration would be monumental for rFactor 2 and it's community.
@@simracerpabs this is why overtake should start making setup tips and track guides for rfactor 2 get ahead of the curb and just push out some rfactor 2 content. Get people excited.
It's probably the best feeling sim out there. With the new ui and improved loading times it also got a lot more pleasant to use. I can't wait for what 2022 will bring to this sim
If you compare to AMS and AC, it does seem kinda pricey. AC gives you some nice laser scanned tracks as part of the base game, and AMS even with all the DLC is a cheap game when it goes on sale. RF2 also doesn't offer the multiplayer experience iRacing offers so they're not competing on the same ground.
Missed one point, they should add a GUI to make your own server with AI and a few friends. Even if it’s a 3rd party program they make you buy that just makes server creation easy.
Well I'm trying this today for the first time, the best I've played ATM imo is iRacing for mechanics and then for a less complicated experience Project Cars 2
As far as championships go, you actually can do singleplayer championships, but as with everything else regarding rF2, the process of doing so is a little convoluted. You basically need an external tool, like the rFactor 2 Log Analyzer which has a championship manager.
Wreckfests still happen with rating systems. Join a few discord racing communities. Better racing, yes a few people will dominate but if you want to run a race that doesn't destroy your car in the first turn of the first lap that might be the way to go.
I've never driven a real racecar, but how I believe rF2 is the closest to the real thing out there. This is based on what I perceive visually from watching real races, real onboard footage and watching how the tires grip the track. No other sims out there have the tire feel that rF2 has. You can really push to the limit and still control the car, and the slides seem predictable and often saveable. I genuinely don't see why people rave about iracing, other than it has by far the best online ranking system and participation. Physics wise, I don't think it's there. Look at all of the drivers during covid that tried iracing for the first time. They all had complaints about the physics and iracing asked them to not publicly complain, but rather to contact iracing directly with concerns... Don't get me wrong, I play it from time to time and even streamed it live because the online participation is good and you can generally get close races, but if rF2 had the online system that iracing has it would be the superior sim.
AC has TONS of special events. You can waste hundreds of hours just with these. It is very competitive and a lot of fun. Stop being a salty fanboy. Its not a game you programmed to be pissed off about criticism lol...
In rf1 there was a chance to have singleplayer championships. Would be nice to have that feature back. But in my Opinion Rf2 is a really great sim these days. I love to play it and sometimes I spend more time with skinning my car than with driving. I would say it is still worth buying and if you got simhub, there are lot of great huds you can have for free and which are helpful. Even some for Multiclass racing.
I am commenting 2yrs later and now the multiplayer is so good am staying up late just to try and get a higher driver rank and safety rating studio 397 did an amazing job.
My complaint bout AC Career is AI. When you are back in pack...the top 2 drives like Shoemaker and goes at warp speeds and you cannot catch them, but if you crash your way to the front at teh start, they go normal, and if you pass them later, they slow down! This is BULLSHIT AI rubberbanding..
I still really enjoy this game, especially as theres a cracking Isle of Man TT track available in the STeam Workshop - something I'd love to see a high spec, official version of at some point :D
Definitely yes, still in 2022 it is a great simulator and still worth it, but currently the AC community, being much bigger, has made the sim much more complete in mods and graphics. Perhaps that is why this question was asked.
I bought it a few years ago, and even then the game was underwhelming and along with the UI issues other sims were more appealing. That being said, Ive tried several times to re install and give it a go, and yet each time am disappointed and uninstall, this current update is no different
The physics and tyre model and track changing is way better than ac. It’s not polished and a complete package but the feel of the tyres and track being alive isn’t present is any other sim like this. The engine is the best of all sims I’ve tried. The ffb is super detailed too ( the wheel doesn’t spring back to centre when you are stationary for example). Iracing is probably the only other sim that has anything on it which is the online community and track realism. Does feel as good though.
Where are you pulling these next gen graphics from in your b roll? Is it all heavily processed post recorded after effects and shaders? I have my settings all on ultra, with a new GPU, and the game may as well be San Francisco Rush.
I like r Factor 2 though i run old ui. As i use package manager to build custom championships. The new ui is better for online gaming. But i am old school and race AI
The biggest downside with RF2 I've found for new drivers is trying to find servers to drive on with friends. Any servers we try to join are running mods which repeatedly fail to install and boot us back to main menu.
It has always been like this with rf2 and even if Automobilista 2 does not have more online players atm, you can join, play and even create a server very easily.
rF2 is great BUT.... initial install was small, but then, to go online it reinstalls every car and track I already have (it makes two versions of the same track, in content manager I even see 3 coppies for the same item if there was track update or something) wtf.. and game with few cars and few tracks grows to 40GB. Pricing... its fair, with fair DLC prices compared to iR, BUT.. to go online in official server, you are FORCED to buy ALL content. Like GT3 series.... you need to buy all tracks and all cars (even if you want to race one of them) ...and most frustrating is - a lot of time you must be IT specialist to put game together after install.
The prices for DLC are ridiculous lol. I mean as you say there is no reason to play. iRacing is expensive as fuck as well. But there is a great rating system behind. Online racing is outstanding. They constantly improve the game. They added AI drivers. Also what I dont get, they offer the DLCs for a lot of money but it seems like these DLCs are fan made? Or "rented" from competitors because some mods say "Reiza Studios" etc.
@@FloosWorld_AoE Just poor timing I can't wait till the update comes out, were starting to get games now that are replicated a system like iracing with there online and license system.
Hey Siel! I saw the update video a fiew hours after the release. But to be honest: Nothing has changed really. All they did was announce some new series. But there still is no rating, no saftey rating, no skill-based match making etc. But I really hope the kick competitions into second gear soon! Regards, Joe
@@OverTake_gg From there responses that was there plan to implement a rating system as well but they didn’t say when so could get a video soon announcing that as well
@@OverTake_gg According to S397's comments they want to work on ranked and stuff so it seems like they want to turn rF2 into iRacing but without a monthly cost
I bought it last week, but i didn't come with any track or car installed, (maybe a glitch), after quite some time i figured out how to install cars and tracks via steam but it wasn't really working smootly, i refunded the game, love the driving, i dont like everything else. I would rather play a game thats a bit less realistic but is wayyyy easier to use and set up (acc, beamng, raceroom)
Thought exactly the same....🙄 Usual RF2 beat up, I'm yet to try the perfect Sim, they all have issues but if going by this week's regular updates as to what coming next week and beyond one thing you can't say about Studio 397 is that they've dropped it and ran away from it.
@@brad_owen you're right. Fact is there is no perfect sim, you find the one that appeals to you the most. I actually gave up simracing completely, but am slowly coming back into it, and my first pathway back in is through trusty old rFactor 2.
All these mods and learning how to use them and and ,,for a onder guy like me a pain in the A... like sim racing a lot but having problems with all the mods you need..
rFactor 2 is also not meant to be for the average gamer. It was meant to train professional drivers and it was used by racing teams, not sure if it still the case anymore but F1 teams etc used this for training.
Well, is the game active in multiplayer? I'm afraid to buy this game and can't find active multiplayer Because I like to play online and challenge real people
rFactor 2 is falling behind because the game only relays in one single thing, good driving experience. Other competitors are getting close enough to not care about which is more realistic while improving all the other aspects aswell.
What is your opinion about rFactor 2? 🤔
It's £5 on sale. Extraordinary value for money!
Rubish... I have it, can't like it no matter what.
Love it
FFB, graphics, physics are the best in the world, if you are pure simracer, you can't use anything else
I bought and find it so buggy :(
I'm old, I have a Job, family and other grownup shit to do. I have no time for career grinds, the time I have for video games in general is very low. That being said if you love cars, sim racing and realism RF2 is no brainer. It's the go to sim for engaging single player races. The force feedback is superb and the connection to the cars and road is just outstanding. Buy it!
i myself on the same boat..i just started playing rfactor2.. and theres something about that keeps u glued to it
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The AI is so weak though. AMS does a much better job
@@ElShogoso It's mandatory to qualify in order to have a proper race. The AI learns from it and races way better. It's stupid but it's s a fact.
thats why i always make sure my practice time is always at least 30min minimum
In my opinion hands down the best Sim. I drive a real Cayman in real life and the Cayman mod on steam is very close to real life physics. I love it! RF2 has amazing mods
thanks Michi!
Real life? You can literally setup hack your way to better lap times, you realize that right? Throwing the gt cars into corners like carts and removing their sway bars increases your lap times my 1-3 seconds sometimes
@@putinski666 Depends, but cheating does not count here. ;) I mean, if you take a basic setup and do your best on track, good pace can be made with enough practice.
I still love playing RF2 & AC despite their age. Studio397 have certainly started 2022 pretty well too!
got it for 10 bucks and was absolutely floored by how visceral the game is its.. a simple yet complicated beast
The driving really is superb. Lets hope the competition system kicks into second gear soon! Regards, Joe!
got it for 1.50 mate 🤣
The career mode thing seems rather an odd criticism to me. Which sim has a good career mode? ACC/AC/R3E/iR/AMS2: all of them just set up a few races in a row for you. I don't think career mode has much purpose in a sim. You practice tracks and you race the AI or online. You know you are progressing because you have to raise the AI rating or you are placing higher online. If that isn't enough to keep you coming back, then sims probably aren't your thing.
Personally I love jumping into rF2 and seeing what I fancy every day. The range of options is immense. And gradually I get better, which is deeply satisfying.
An online rating system would be great and I'm sure will come soon, but first we need to get player numbers up. You can't avoid slower cars if there is only one split.
If you want career mode, buy Forza.
But I think single player championships would be nice to have. And of course a better online experience, although I've had a lot of fun in the competition system when the grids have been decent.
Now again, people saying what we should play. Of course we can play forza (an arcade game) or Project Cars2 that has a decent career mode. But Rfactor2 has the best physics, best AI, best FFB, and I just want to play it offline in a career mode that never will be developed. Why? because not all people have the time to play and compete with other people, but love simulators as Rfactor2
@@JavierRollon I get you but I play offline a lot as well and to be honest I don't expect a full career mode in a real simulator. I do expect to be able to organise offline championships though, and that I think will one day come to Rf2.
@Da-zed none sense. Single player = arcade? Lol and appart of that. Arcade only for kids. Open your mind
@Da-zed I think he means a Championship Series starting in Normal cars or lower GT4. Then Gaining Experience and improving against an AI. Because Many Grown Men actually have Jobs!! Not involving Video games. And want a more Relaxed experience without sacrificing Realism!! Thought I’d help. You seem a bit Aggressive. Like you’re the only one with an opinion !! I’d work on that!!
This is a top tier sim, of course it is worth it.
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Do you have to buy some extra in the game? Like iracing
@@DailyClips976 no, it's not subscription based.
@@Dcully Ok, thanks for the answer😁
Looks like u forget iracing.
Lack of real single-player game modes is a problem for so many of the sim racing games. It's a shame, and really weird given how little time should be needed to throw together a list of events and a progression system. (Something that could be done by junior team members, too, while the senior people still focus on the core sim.) I look at rFactor 2 and AMS2 and think they look like lovely simulations, but I would have nothing to actually do in them, other than random races. I want something to work through, and I only care about single-player (at least for now). Over in the non-sim racing area, there's loads to choose from, but the physics are unrealistic and support for proper racing wheel and ultrawides and correct FOV etc. is all missing. You can't win in either camp at the moment.
Better, fairer, more human AI that doesn't ram you off the track or have superhuman performance in some situations (and lackluster performance in others, so you're constantly adjusting difficulty) would also be nice (at least in AC, which is where must of my experience is), but I can understand how that's a much harder problem to solve than adding a simple career mode, so I'm more forgiving of that.
I think the best single-player sim racer is Project Cars 2. The career mode offers a progression system in different series (GT, single-seater, TC, rally and prototype). Plus there are track invitation races and manufacturers events.
I've always enjoyed rF2 but found it to be complicated in every aspect. The old menus, the replays / cameras, the mod system with its packages, just everything seemed overly hard to like. Literally every other sim is better in those aspects but rF2 does have a great feeling so many racers give it a pass.
"Why should I use 3rd party apps to play a sim game?" - Asks a guy who most likely uses content manager, shaders patch and all the other jazz for AC. The workshop syncing at the start of the game is actually pretty nice from my POV. In fact you don't need to do anything while the game keeps the workshop items up to date. Is see it as time that I have gained to do other stuff instead of checking forums if my mods are still up to date. :)
I'm of the school of thought that you shouldn't need any mods or launchers whatsoever to get a fun experience out of a game, they should just be used to enhance the experience, optionally, after you're done with the default content. If you look at some of the classics like GTR2, the game didn't need any mods to be a complete game, it had all the basics: training mode (similar to gran turismo licenses, really good stuff), a complete championship mode, a complete track list and really well modeled cars for the time. That didn't stop the game from having one of the best modding scenes of all, time, but you didn't *need* any of that stuff to have fun with it. Same goes for Automobilista, game has a crapton of quality content out of the box (especially if you get it with DLCs) including multiple race series.
rFactor2 is great but it's always been an ongoing project with a lot of promise that's never fully achieved (yet). I will be honest, I haven't played it for around 6 months. The main reason being that actually getting a great experience takes a lot of time and patience which I normally don't have. You could describe it as feeling very "raw" in every area which is a good thing sometimes but obviously it can also break the experience a bit in some situations or for some people. Once you get that great experience there is probably nothing like it. I love oversteery cars and rF2 is extremely oversteery. A bit to the unrealistic side for some situations but it feels great. I think it's a must have for any simracer.
rF2 is updated pretty often. S397 is great and although they are a relatively small studio, they do a lot of work.
Do try classic content. In my opinion this is where rFactor2 really shines. Especially the march and mclarens made by S397. They give an awesome feeling which I haven't been able to replicate in any other sim.
The new UI is a big step up. The main reason why I rarely play rFactor 2 is because there are no camera options in VR - specifically it's not possible to lock to horizon, so instead the horizon bounces up and down while driving. I've gotten used to it, so I no longer get motion sickness from it. Still, most other moderns sims have some sort of lock to horizon feature.
rF2 has horizon lock. It is somewhere in display/stabilize horizon. But it is not strong enough for me, either. I have the same issue with R3E.
Throws my pitchfork at this! Rfactor2 is awesome! Best AI, good leagues, best motion ffb and physics.
The reasons why you say rF2 is not worth it are the same as for your favorite sim AC I think (career mode in AC is not very interesting for example)? And official content is often on sale on Steam in packs, e.g. the GT3 pack or Endurance packs are in the Lunar Sale at the moment and the base game as well. And today Studio 397 announced Season 1 for racing online in the Competition System. And yes, the games is quite old already, but in all these years we more or less got a new game with DX11, VR support, a lot of other graphical updates, some of the best tracks and cars in Sim Racing today and since a few weeks a new and fresh UI.
Rf2 needs a (better) competition system to become the best overall sim
All great points but I am surprised that you didn't mention the price in a discussion of worth except in passing. RF2 is significantly more expensive than all of its competitors except for iRacing. I have full versions (i.e. all DLC) of most of the major sims and simcade games (AC, ACC, AMS2, F1 '19 and '21, PC2, FH4, NFS, Dirt Rally 1 and 2) and I have only been serious about the genre for a couple of months. I often compare the same car and/or track between 2 or 3 games back to back to learn more about them or to perfect setups.
I looked long and hard at iRacing and RF2 but I couldn't get past the limited content in the base versions and the cost of the DLC. Perhaps they will be more attractive over time.
Given the hours that we spend in sim racing games, ultimately any sim racing game will be worth it in time. The more expensive games need either valuable features (like great multiplayer matchmaking) or the payoff will take longer.
rF2 and it's DLC go on sale regularly. The discounts are substantial. I didn't pay significantly more for rF2 vs what I paid for AC or ACC. But if I take the amount of fun I got from the sim into consideration, then ACC scores the worst (zero fun, runs like crap on a vr headset..) AC is well worth it (hundreds of hours played) and rF2 is the best in my eyes. The most fun and best feeling sim, with just about the price of AC. (About one hundred hours played)
While single item is rather expensive in rf2 there are also plenty of content packs which are often on sale. So you can buy all gt3 content (I guess it's 13 cars or sth) for 20 bucks - it's not expensive at all
There's a lot of high quality mods for the people who are more short on cash though
For a good multiplayer you need to find a league. It can be quite tough finding one but when you are driving in one the racing is really great with an awesome vibe
Especially GTE Prototype endurance racing
Do you have to pay for multiplayer
@@robanoodle287 Depends on the league, they may ask you to contribute towards server costs, but it's often voluntary.
I'm new to sim racing as an INDYCAR fan and we are finally getting cars in games. Project Cars 2 was on sale for less than $10 so of course I got it. I'll be waiting for RF2 and others to be on sale before I get it
Its on Sale now. $8.95 currently
A really big plus in rf2 imo is: the adjustable mirrors. This should be in every sim. It could be little bit better but its oké. Mirror view could be a bit better. The resolution is perfect compare with other sim but the tear is terrible. Overall its a great sim 👍🏼 🚦 🏁
You can do it with a mod in assetto corsa. Clearly needed In every sim
@@toutpt will look in to that. Never knew 👍🏼
@@yrtracingteam106
Unfortunately, the mirrors in assetto Corsa when played on a VR headset, are actually the best. The image they reflect changes as you move your head around.
This is unfortunate because I don't race AC anymore... I'm always on rF2.
The area where rfactor Realy gets unbeatable are those leagues. Take a look at things like vec, p1lms and virtual Lemans series and everything just clicks into place.
Yes, rfactor is not the sim for the daily after work Jump into 3 quick and engaging online races, there are other sims for it that can do it much better. (iracing comes to mind)
But for huge league's and endurance racing, rfactor is king.
When you then already got some team mates, snd you train together on the track for the next upcoming race, it just feels so real, already in training. And the anticipation just raises till it reaches race day, and then you find your self in a grid with over 50 cars ahead of an 12h race, and it's just so well done. How the sun sets in the latter stages, the weather, the feeling of driving this car - it feels like just real racing, and that's where rfactor outshines every other sim.
Yes, they are leagues for other Sims as well, but rfactor just is on another level in terms of endurance racing in leagues.
Your video was all I needed to know about this game! Thanks!
Glad to hear it!
Rfactor 2 is my favorite sim. It just has the best steering wheel feel by far imo. I haven't played iRacing though, and don't plan to. It's the only one that allows me to dig more and more and feel exactly where I'm gaining that extra tenth, lap after lap. No guessing what the physics are doing at all. I only bought it last year after playing the original for five years in the 00s and my only regret is not doing so much sooner. It also supports simulated historical grids better than AC or Automobilista. If I want to run a championship I can keep a spreadsheet, not a problem. :)
Damn, I had to check the user name on this comment to make sure it wasn't me who wrote it. I couldn't agree with you more :)
Spreadsheet works way better for keeping track of a championship than some weird game menu anyway. You dont have to install a old game and check your savefile, just open the spreadsheet and you can see everything you need instantly
Good video. I have played rfactor2 for 700 hours and I have to say I never had bad experiences in open lobbies. Maybe I had luck, but I played it very often in mp mode. But I mostly played it with official dlc content, because it's much better as free workshop mods. Maybe The paywall of official content is too high for crashkidz like in your video....! :-) Furthermore I think rf2 has one of the greatest AIs, so you can have very good races in sp. But the biggest con in my opinion is that there is no way to host a mp race local on your PC. In the former version with the old old ui this was possible. I could create mp sessions with or without AIs and have some fun with my steam buddies. But now.... Only dedicated server hosting is possible I think. And this was the main reason why I changed too ac, ams2 and acc now....! But 700 hours rf2 will stay in my mind. Driving and ffb is still very good!
Hi, rf2 works with Fanatec wheel basis?
Yes! Of course! And as a bonus, it plays extremely well with a Gamepad. Don’t underestimate us drivers without fancy gear!
Really it does? Never would I have tought. Maybe I should do a video about the best simulation racing games for gamepad players... 🤔 Regards, Joe
Unless the laws of physics change, simulators aren't getting any more realistic than rF2 already is. The improvements will be seen on other areas, such as graphics, sounds etc.. The physics are already pretty much on point since motorsports teams started making use of sims.
You should press "3". It hurts my eyes, that you didn't use the virtual mirrors. They are very well implemented.
To rf2: Yes. It can be a beast. But it's the best sim out there in my opinion. The real weather plug-in is the best plug-in I know - because it uses teal data: But it uses it in real time. It's the only sim I know, that can change the weather during I race. So you have to check the weather forecast DURING a race. It's so damn immersive.
S397 is working on a rating system. They will implement it. And the ui will be changed in the completion system, too.
what is the name of this weather plugin? or is it there by default?
I recently bought this sim and I fell in love. There is absolutely no reason not to buy the base game for the sale price. I only have an old G27 but the FFB experience is sooo good and I've been having so much fun racing against the AI on various tracks and cars. I guess I'll get a bit bored soon because of the lack of Multiplayer system, but the sim experience is well worth the money
This game has no multiplayer??
@@hzrd2op400 It does and it even has a competition system, but there aren't many players on it and I don't own any paid content, so I'm limited to choose only the free content series. Racing AI has been very fun, but I do hope they improve the competition system so it attracts a big player base.
I think custom championships or a career mode where you start off on the low end of motorsports and work your way up to the top of the line race cars would be cool for rF2, but I don't know how difficult it would be to make the code for all that work
Every time I give RFactor 2 another try, I find myself saying "Wow, that was awesome", and "Why don't I drive it more?". And I guess the answer to the question is that I get sucked in to the competitive online racing (iracing). But rfactor 2 is incredible.
Top video on rfactor2 and generally! I mean, you are really talented and very honest to explain interesting things how they are! Really interesting and very useful!! Hats off!! 😃😃👍👍
Thanks a ton!
LFM is looking to adapt this into their system! if they do holy shit!
That's right. Boris mentioned that its possible to work with rFactor 2's servers. rF2's competition system has been one of its biggest drawbacks. LFM integration would be monumental for rFactor 2 and it's community.
@@simracerpabs this is why overtake should start making setup tips and track guides for rfactor 2 get ahead of the curb and just push out some rfactor 2 content. Get people excited.
@@tonesnaps @Overtake_gg most definately
It's probably the best feeling sim out there. With the new ui and improved loading times it also got a lot more pleasant to use. I can't wait for what 2022 will bring to this sim
One of the worst imo. ACC, AC and even Ams2 feels alot better, even though ams is probably less realistic
official content is kind of pricey?? sorry but with iRacing still gouging customers rF2 content is perfectly reasonable.
If you compare to AMS and AC, it does seem kinda pricey. AC gives you some nice laser scanned tracks as part of the base game, and AMS even with all the DLC is a cheap game when it goes on sale. RF2 also doesn't offer the multiplayer experience iRacing offers so they're not competing on the same ground.
Missed one point, they should add a GUI to make your own server with AI and a few friends. Even if it’s a 3rd party program they make you buy that just makes server creation easy.
U forgot to speak about the brilliant VR mode :) They will put Custom Championchip in future they write on my comment on Facebook.
yeah, lack of career mode is a huge drawback - I don't need story mode or any animations in that regard, just a purpose to advance
Well I'm trying this today for the first time, the best I've played ATM imo is iRacing for mechanics and then for a less complicated experience Project Cars 2
As far as championships go, you actually can do singleplayer championships, but as with everything else regarding rF2, the process of doing so is a little convoluted. You basically need an external tool, like the rFactor 2 Log Analyzer which has a championship manager.
Have you not been on AMS2 ? The weather transitions are great AND it looks miles better.
Wreckfests still happen with rating systems. Join a few discord racing communities. Better racing, yes a few people will dominate but if you want to run a race that doesn't destroy your car in the first turn of the first lap that might be the way to go.
I've never driven a real racecar, but how I believe rF2 is the closest to the real thing out there. This is based on what I perceive visually from watching real races, real onboard footage and watching how the tires grip the track. No other sims out there have the tire feel that rF2 has. You can really push to the limit and still control the car, and the slides seem predictable and often saveable. I genuinely don't see why people rave about iracing, other than it has by far the best online ranking system and participation. Physics wise, I don't think it's there. Look at all of the drivers during covid that tried iracing for the first time. They all had complaints about the physics and iracing asked them to not publicly complain, but rather to contact iracing directly with concerns... Don't get me wrong, I play it from time to time and even streamed it live because the online participation is good and you can generally get close races, but if rF2 had the online system that iracing has it would be the superior sim.
Says his favourite sim is AC and then pans Rf2 for lacking things which AC also lacks. Comedy.
AC has TONS of special events. You can waste hundreds of hours just with these. It is very competitive and a lot of fun. Stop being a salty fanboy. Its not a game you programmed to be pissed off about criticism lol...
In my view yes, the Cayman mod (Free) on Steam is one of the best mods that feel way better then AC, ACC or iRacing in my opinion.
In rf1 there was a chance to have singleplayer championships. Would be nice to have that feature back.
But in my Opinion Rf2 is a really great sim these days. I love to play it and sometimes I spend more time with skinning my car than with driving. I would say it is still worth buying and if you got simhub, there are lot of great huds you can have for free and which are helpful. Even some for Multiclass racing.
Where to buy rf1?
@@jogurcik13 maybe on steam but dont really know.
I am commenting 2yrs later and now the multiplayer is so good am staying up late just to try and get a higher driver rank and safety rating studio 397 did an amazing job.
My complaint bout AC Career is AI. When you are back in pack...the top 2 drives like Shoemaker and goes at warp speeds and you cannot catch them, but if you crash your way to the front at teh start, they go normal, and if you pass them later, they slow down! This is BULLSHIT AI rubberbanding..
I still really enjoy this game, especially as theres a cracking Isle of Man TT track available in the STeam Workshop - something I'd love to see a high spec, official version of at some point :D
Dont know if it was mentioned in the video but there is LFM out there and it is hosting rf2 races. Check it out
I just got indroduced to rfactor 2 and searching for videos to buy it this video perfectly came 1 hour before!
Definitely yes, still in 2022 it is a great simulator and still worth it, but currently the AC community, being much bigger, has made the sim much more complete in mods and graphics. Perhaps that is why this question was asked.
OTGG, Is that Acura ARX DPI a mod or payware? I'm a sucker for protos/hypercars. Btw great content man you put out really entertaining videos.
Thanks for your feedback! ❤️ You can find the Acura ARX in the Steam workshop! 😉
@@OverTake_gg I did. Thanks man. Also try ams2 new physics update. It's much better. Cheers
Its very good to drive.
Multiplayer is a desert tho.
It’s like $8.00 on Steam right now. I finally bought it.
I bought it a few years ago, and even then the game was underwhelming and along with the UI issues other sims were more appealing. That being said, Ive tried several times to re install and give it a go, and yet each time am disappointed and uninstall, this current update is no different
There are some pretty good HUD mods in the Steam Workshop.
The physics and tyre model and track changing is way better than ac. It’s not polished and a complete package but the feel of the tyres and track being alive isn’t present is any other sim like this. The engine is the best of all sims I’ve tried. The ffb is super detailed too ( the wheel doesn’t spring back to centre when you are stationary for example). Iracing is probably the only other sim that has anything on it which is the online community and track realism. Does feel as good though.
I just bought it on Kinguin for $2.08 US.
Motorsport Games has bought Studio397, do you know if they are working on RF3, or will there be "only" improvements for RF2?
Nope the devs say they are committed to rf2, and that they are going to improve tyre physics soon
@@Rmagid Thanks, then we'll see what the team can do with the physics.
Didn't project cars do all the rain stuff?
Correct. Madness Engine did rain best. Unmatched right now
rF2 isn't really a "game" anyway. It's a simulator and still unmatched in FFB and physics. I'm with you though, AC is still my go to.
Where are you pulling these next gen graphics from in your b roll?
Is it all heavily processed post recorded after effects and shaders?
I have my settings all on ultra, with a new GPU, and the game may as well be San Francisco Rush.
Hey Bhante, its really just the usual gameplay. Not even on ultra 🙊 Regards, Joe
Do this again with new update. Just bought it, Summer Sale. Something less than 7 dollars. Haven't played yet. Long live AC!
I like r Factor 2 though i run old ui. As i use package manager to build custom championships. The new ui is better for online gaming. But i am old school and race AI
The biggest downside with RF2 I've found for new drivers is trying to find servers to drive on with friends. Any servers we try to join are running mods which repeatedly fail to install and boot us back to main menu.
It has always been like this with rf2 and even if Automobilista 2 does not have more online players atm, you can join, play and even create a server very easily.
rF2 is great BUT.... initial install was small, but then, to go online it reinstalls every car and track I already have (it makes two versions of the same track, in content manager I even see 3 coppies for the same item if there was track update or something) wtf.. and game with few cars and few tracks grows to 40GB. Pricing... its fair, with fair DLC prices compared to iR, BUT.. to go online in official server, you are FORCED to buy ALL content. Like GT3 series.... you need to buy all tracks and all cars (even if you want to race one of them) ...and most frustrating is - a lot of time you must be IT specialist to put game together after install.
If RF2 and PC2 had a baby. I would be the godfather of that child.
Nothing beats the driving feel of rf2
The prices for DLC are ridiculous lol. I mean as you say there is no reason to play. iRacing is expensive as fuck as well. But there is a great rating system behind. Online racing is outstanding. They constantly improve the game. They added AI drivers. Also what I dont get, they offer the DLCs for a lot of money but it seems like these DLCs are fan made? Or "rented" from competitors because some mods say "Reiza Studios" etc.
skill rating and match making restrictions is the key, there isn't one, enough said
Addons way too expensive for such a limited sim
You have to do an update to this video they had a major update to racing online
The upload timing was quite unfortunate because S397 announced their update to competition in the time this was uploaded
@@FloosWorld_AoE Just poor timing I can't wait till the update comes out, were starting to get games now that are replicated a system like iracing with there online and license system.
Hey Siel! I saw the update video a fiew hours after the release. But to be honest: Nothing has changed really. All they did was announce some new series. But there still is no rating, no saftey rating, no skill-based match making etc. But I really hope the kick competitions into second gear soon! Regards, Joe
@@OverTake_gg From there responses that was there plan to implement a rating system as well but they didn’t say when so could get a video soon announcing that as well
@@OverTake_gg According to S397's comments they want to work on ranked and stuff so it seems like they want to turn rF2 into iRacing but without a monthly cost
I bought it last week, but i didn't come with any track or car installed, (maybe a glitch), after quite some time i figured out how to install cars and tracks via steam but it wasn't really working smootly, i refunded the game, love the driving, i dont like everything else. I would rather play a game thats a bit less realistic but is wayyyy easier to use and set up (acc, beamng, raceroom)
Where did you get that version of Pukekohe Park?
waiting on a sim with persistent skid marks
Would love to play it but unable to invert by medal input even under new UI despite searching for a fix. Frustrating so have never actually played it
Is there a street racing mod for this game like on asettaCorsa
Rf2 works flawlessly with Fanatec wheels?😊
Do you get all of the 233 tracks and 93 cars out of the box or do you only get a scant amount and have to pay for additions?
I bought the basic version of the game. I don't see the championship mode in the main menu and I don't have time trial?
I hlready has AC, ACC, Automobilayada 2....should I pick up this rFactor 2 now?
I got rFactor 2 for $7 so I just went for it. I know, I'm crazy like that.
In two days all the other sims are going into the dust
Care to elaborate?
If you want to feel like your actually driving a car than this is the sim.
Where did you get the charlotte roval mod from 0:58 ??'
Curious how you know the old UI was terrible yet you stated you only just started driving in this sim?
Thought exactly the same....🙄
Usual RF2 beat up, I'm yet to try the perfect Sim, they all have issues but if going by this week's regular updates as to what coming next week and beyond one thing you can't say about Studio 397 is that they've dropped it and ran away from it.
@@brad_owen you're right. Fact is there is no perfect sim, you find the one that appeals to you the most. I actually gave up simracing completely, but am slowly coming back into it, and my first pathway back in is through trusty old rFactor 2.
im new to simracing, is it worth getting as a starter?
Sure!
$6.39 - Steam flash sale - June 23, 2022 until July 7, 2022
All these mods and learning how to use them and and ,,for a onder guy like me a pain in the A... like sim racing a lot but having problems with all the mods you need..
Alright\ defendantly peeved now that I got a taste\Why will the new UI not launch ?
Age has nothing to do, Diablo II has 20 years old and people is still playing it :- 1
Gibt's das Video auch auf Deutsch?😉😊
rFactor 2 is also not meant to be for the average gamer. It was meant to train professional drivers and it was used by racing teams, not sure if it still the case anymore but F1 teams etc used this for training.
Well, is the game active in multiplayer? I'm afraid to buy this game and can't find active multiplayer Because I like to play online and challenge real people
Time for a “is Rfactor 2 worth it in 2024?”!
Just picked it up!
tried iRacing, Assetto Corsa / ACC, but RF2 really stands out for me
I have everything❤ factor 2 and I have everything race room. RF2 Hands down. Did I racing for 6 Years Way Way way too expensive.
rFactor 2 is falling behind because the game only relays in one single thing, good driving experience. Other competitors are getting close enough to not care about which is more realistic while improving all the other aspects aswell.
best sim i tried. best feeling i had.
rfactor 2 is shit now, all gte and gt3 cars feel like they have no grip anymore