Doctor Mysterio is in reference to in Mexico the show is called Doctor Misterio. While on tour in Mexico going to Cons and fan events Peter Capaldi thought the name was really cool so Steven Moffat titled this episode that, another cool fact is Peter was shocked at how deep the announcer on the Spanish/Mexican overdub announced Doctor Misterio(Doctor Who) that in this episode when The Doctor introduces himself as Doctor Mysterio and says it in the deep voice that was Capaldi paying homage to the announcer in the dub and it was him impersonating him.
It is true, but not exact. In Spanish you don't ask "Doctor quién?" when asking for a doctor's name, but "Doctor qué?", so in the 70s during its introduction to Mexico and before it became famous, calling it "Doctor quién" made no sense, and "Dóctor qué?" didn't really have a ring to it, so trying to say that his name was a mystery, they briefly called it "Doctor Misterio". After the show was pretty well known internationally, it has been called "Doctor Who" in Mexico as in the rest of the world.
There are a few Easter eggs in this episode - WHen the Doctor appears at Christmas, Grant is 8 years old.. and when he returns to Grant as an adult, Grant is 32.. which is 24 years later. So in essence Grant was guarding earth while the Doctor spent those 24 years on Derillium. So basically the Doctor took a 24 year vacation from defending the earth - and now that River has gone to the libary, as he puts it at the end "I was away, and now I'm back - and Nadole adds "24 years, what a night". So Grant can hang up the cape and costume. Also when River is mentioned at the end, the music suddenly shifts to the theme music from Forest of the Dead.
This is one that, on paper, shouldn't work at all. But somehow it just does. I think its just the right amount of cheese, and committing to the silliness.
As a member of the PMHL - The Protect Mr Huffles League - I must protest most strongly at the protracted 'Huffling' portrayed. In the days of the Huffle King, this sort of outrage would not have happened! Madames, this Huffling must cease! I will definitely write to somewhere and remain your most humble and most dedicated complainant.
Oh Katrina. I am so very sorry to hear of the loss of your friend. I've lost a number of close friends over the past decade. It hurts like hell. I hope that you retain more happy memories, rather than the inevitable sad one.
Doctor Who is a show that can honestly be any genre or setting, that's its true power as a cultural touch stone that it has been many things over its long history. So no matter what you need it to be, it is just that and will always be there for you to rewatch and enjoy.
This episode is a lot of fun and I was honestly shocked that more people didn't enjoy it as much as I did. Yes, it is pretty cheesy in places, but you can also tell the show isn't taking itself very seriously here. I for one love that. It's nice to just be goofy now and then. And even with all the silliness, they still manage to nail the emotional beats at the end. Brilliant. :)
One of my favorite XMas specials. I always found the difference of reception really interesting between in the UK, US, AUS and everywhere else Love the nod to Amy & Rory at the start of the episode, and the mention of River at the end. Just a really nice coda to everything before. Dr Mysterio - Dr Who in spanish speaking countries if I remember correctly, or at least that’s how Moff and PCap got the idea Love the crowd control motion with the hamburger. And that Grant was in DB Evolution 13:46 the Dr & Grant did get a comic both together!
I forking LOVE Nardole as a companion. Apparently the Doctor likes Pokemon, who knew? I love the comic aesthetic of this episode. That nickname of Dr Mysterio is absolutely perfect. Poor Mr Huffle who feels pain.The end always makes me tear up
You're right, you never know when Grief will hit you again, but with some of Moffat's words through the lens of Peter Capaldi, you'll definitely increase its likelihood.
Sorry about your loss Kat. That sad never really goes away, but one day you’ll find that the memory of that loss becomes bitter sweeet, and you’ll be laughing about the good things even while you’re crying. Stay silly fellow whovian.
this is thing with Moffat. He’s such an ambitious person when it comes to his creativity. He really goes in 110% and he can overshoot himself, but when he gets it right, it’s sooooooo good.
That's what Doctor who was always been really good at, literally playing with every emotion like toys. That's what makes terrific, like life there is no one clear cut emotion at any time. Do you want joy fear anger content love sadness... I'll just take a all you can eat with a little bit of everything.
A really fun episode! I have never done this but it might be worth it...watching The Husbands of River Song, then the Library episodes, then this. They happened back to back but not in the order we first saw them.
I love the little moments where Katrina seems like she’s about about to ask “do you recognize ___” and then stops to see if/when Paula will catch on naturally
I have always considered this a so-so episode but I will give credit to two things: the boy acting as one would and taking the "medicine" because the Doctor, as usual, was vague. The second thing being Nardol's speech at the end.
Hey Katrina, I relatively recently lost a friend as well, well it was actually back in September but it's still a very weird feeling, he tragically died from complications resulting from an epileptic seizure, it was something I never thought I'd hear about happening to anyone close to me. I mean you have celebrities pass and your great grandparents pass and if you never really knew them it generally doesn't tend to impact you that much, that's not to say it isn't sad because it of course still is, but you know you're generally not always that effected by it. To be completely honest I wouldn't even necessarily say he was even my best friend, but he was still a friend who I'd been to college with for a few years a good number of years ago and we've worked on filming projects for many years as well so I can definitely say I've been fairly deeply affected by his passing. But yeah for me it's hard to describe because I wouldn't say I have ever cried my eyes out about it and that's obviously not to say there's anything wrong with that if you do as everyone grieves differently, but it's felt more weird than anything else, it's like it doesn't feel real, even after a good few months now it still doesn't quite feel real. The funeral was what probably hit me the hardest, seeing his mother distraught as he was being buried, that probably had to be the hardest moment for me, I think I struggle showing my emotions with certain things, especially when I'm around people, but I could definitely feel that sadness and I still do underneath, I think I just think about his family more than anything else and how much this must have destroyed them because he really was such a lovely person, he never judged anyone and he was always himself and didn't change himself for other people, but as I say everyone grieves differently and of course it depends on the circumstances as well, so I can't say I could even begin to imagine what you're going through so the last thing I would want to say is not to worry or to not be sad, especially because I don't know you so I would never pretend to understand everything you've been through, but you know what I reckon you're strong enough to get through anything because although as I say I don't know you, I bet you've been through some indescribably rough times prior to this and the fact that you're still going on is incredibly admirable, sorry I hope this doesn't sound too obvious and cheesy, but I think you're an incredibly strong person and there is absolutely nothing wrong with venting and expressing that grief whenever you need to, but just remember we're all here for you, so if you need someone to talk to, if you're comfortable opening up, feel free to message me whenever you like and I know I'm a stranger so I might not be the appropriate person to talk to, but you're more than welcome to share whatever you're comfortable sharing, if you think it will help at all. :)
It really is so wonderful that you two ended up starting the Moffat era as [gestures around] all of this began. At least twice a season there will be a moment when one is given the opportunity to just bawl ones eyes out and let out the emotions one has been holding in. For me, even seeing a clip of a Capaldi speech will get me tearing up.
I mean, it's barely a "Christmas" special - you can get away with watching this in January. I actually enjoy this one quite a bit! It definitely helps to know the context that this is Moffat's tribute to the superhero genre. Is it cheesy? Sure - but so was Richard Donner'a Superman. I'm not sure the villains are that fleshed out, but I love that the heroes follow certain superhero tropes (nerdy secret identity in love with ace reporter) while flipping others on their head (Grant being a manny to her baby), while the Doctor just watches on with secondhand embarrassment, so it's kind of fun. Also, Mr. Huffle - god, it really shouldn't work, but it kind of does XD I don't know how they pulled that off.
Oh my. I remember looking at the time to see if there was a Mr Huffle replica available, as I found that part of the episode so funny. There wasn't one... but there is now. I've found it! Right. Off to spend more money on unnecessary nonsense. (and I'm not one bit sorry).
Can't believe I forgot just how emotional Capaldi's Doctor's episodes were ... Also, for as little as my words matter, I'm sorry for your loss; It's never easy, but as long as we remember them, those we lose are never truly gone
I actually love this one. I like the old superhero tropes where there's an awkward (and fairly obvious) secret identity to the characters unlike now. Truth to be told, I'm a bit Marveled-out... Sorry to hear about your loss but life without emotional attachments is like living in black and white. While I do love a bit of black and white, you have to let the technicolour in.
I wonder if this was rated lower because there was such a long break. I remember being disappointed that we'd waited _so long_ and what we got was such a drastic departure from the normal Dr Who episodes it barely felt like Dr Who. Not to mention the intensity of the previous episode we'd dwelled on for a year. I wonder, had it come in the middle of a season surrounded by normal episodes, if it would have been better received. It's definitely better than I remember, so perhaps.
Just to kind of prepare you for stuff you might run into later. Series 10 is the start of the era where the show gets accused of "going woke." Personally i never agreed with that assessment of series 10 and i think its a pretty good series. Just be prepared for comments bitching about wokeness. Going forward after series 10 will be a wild ride in that regard though.
Well, your reacting to season 9 came to an end, and that was sad, but now your reacting to Doctor Who has begun again and that's very happy. Capaldi was right again!
Hi gals, if you read my comments previously, I did say the BBC iPlayer does place this episode at the END of series 9, the first episode of series 10 won’t be on till April 2017 😳
To be honest I've enjoyed Series 10 alot more than I enjoyed Series 8 and 9 because 1. Clara was gone 2. It gave Capaldi a chance to shine 3. Love Nardole first alien companion. 4. Better stories.
Without Capaldi I don’t think this episode would have worked, ten would have been good in this episode but I don’t think it would’ve landed the ending, 11 would’ve been great but it would have been more silly and again I don’t think he would’ve landed the ending, it’s definitely not a 9 story but 12 handles this story just right, god we were lucky to get Capaldi as The Doctor
Like most comedic episodes I recall this one getting completely eviscerated by fans at the time, and certainly I went into it with a lot of apprehension and scepticism. In spite of everything though, I ended up rather enjoying this episode when I actually saw it, and while I don't think it's one of my favourite episodes (hell, it's not one of my favourite Christmas specials, and it's one of Moffat's lower ranked episodes for me), but I think it's a nice bit of inconsequential fluff, and a rather decent lead-in for series 10. Part of my initial apprehension in going into this episode was because the central conceit of this episode is based around a genre that I don't particularly care for. Superhero films aren't really my cup of tea, and given that this episode came out around the time that the Marvel films were at the peak of their popularity I was certain this was just Moffat attempting to cash in on a popular craze. However, it's clear that this isn't the case, and in actuality Moffat is writing this story because he does love the genre, in particular the older more endearingly goofy stuff like the Christopher Reeve Superman films. You'd probably get more investment if you get the genre and the conventions that this episode is lampooning, but the script is so bursting with energy, wit, and genuine childlike excitement and enthusiasm that you can't help but allow yourself to be carried away with it. Likewise, you get the impression that all the guest performers are really invested in the story and are just having so much fun in their respective roles, from Justin Chatwin in the dual role of the earnest good-hearted Ghost and his bumbling Clark Kent-esque alter ego, to Charity Wakefield as the feisty journalist and love interest. With all the attention given to the superhero stuff, you'd be forgiven for overlooking the Doctor and the 'Monster of the Week' plotline. Still, while this is given less focus than the Grant/Lucy storyline, the whole subplot with the Doctor and Nardole investigating Harmony Shoal's evil plan is very entertaining, and gives us loads of fun setpieces. Speaking of which, the monsters (who were the same species that River tried to sell the diamond to in the last episode) are rather fun, their gimmick is memorably gross, and the actors play the roles with a nice level of understated hamminess. Capaldi mostly gets to play it lighter this episode, sinking his teeth into the fairly standard Doctor role and lacking most of the angst and conflict that he'd gone through over the last two series, but he still nails the moments of repressed sadness that he's feeling over the loss of River. The speech he gives at the end is another doozy, and honestly one of the defining speeches of this incarnation (and it's also a nice little coda to his mini-arc from the end of series 9). It's a nice little poignant conclusion to what has been, for the most part, a rather lightweight and fluffy episode, and a lovely way to lead us into series 10 with the slate wiped (mostly) clean
Great Reactions Girls to, in my opinion, a Great Episode, I got chewing gum stuck to my shoe once. That spoiled the taste a little. Ok! I made that up.
In my last year at primary school we had a teacher, Mrs Evans, who had a habit of munching on the same bit of chewing-gum for hours on end. If she left the room for whatever reason, she'd stick the gum on her desk and pop it back into her mouth when she came back. One day, my cousin waited for her to leave the room, and swapped the gum for a small lump of plasticine. We all thought it was hilarious, but Mrs Evans was NOT amused :)
Ok, this is weird to admit..... But I've thought about this for years...... This is my #1 favorite Doctor Who episode of ALL TIME ... 😅🤭🙈 I remember, I HATED this episode upon first watch. I thought "this is NOT Doctor Who. WHAT IS THIS SHIT?" 😅 But I've rewatched this episode the most out of all episodes. It is SUCH a feelgood episode. And it's FUNNY. I think Justin Chatwin is PERFECT casting for Grant. I was so glad that I finally can love a performance if his. The most hated actor, who always picks bad projects for him (War Of Worlds, Dragonball Evolution, Another Life, just naming a few). And it probably hurt him as a person, too. When you watch one of his earlier performances like when he was on Lost that one episode, his voice was far from being this rough. This happens, when you keep drinking and doing drugs. But it's not only that. Especially the Doctor himself, coming from the loss of Clara AND River. He must have been on honeymoon for over 20 years. Imagine how heartbroken this Doctor must be. I can so relate. After the loss of my mother, among others, since 2019.... I hope this explains enough, why I personally love this episode so much. I would never argue for other people to agree with me or to feel the same. I will just never change MY mind about this episode. Until an episode comes along, that I love more. But I highly doubt that will ever happen....
Also the romance part? 🥹 Her realizing at 10:40 that she's actually been in love with the person who was right there the whole time. I relate to that. I wish something like that would happen to me. I mean, I'm not in love with a person, I already know, myself, but I find that idea so beautiful and romantic.... 🥰
Iirc, this was around the time I lost cable and couldn't keep up regularly with the show. Of course, went back and have seen them all now. This one is a bit all over the place but is fine. And has a couple of serious moments which could have been better without the squeaky toy. lol 12:58 Has Paula been....working out? (slight nod to the original Superman movie. ;-) )
I never liked this special, I have only seen it two or three times - there are other episodes I have seen over a hundred times, I actually enjoyed it watching along with you though
Doctor Mysterio is in reference to in Mexico the show is called Doctor Misterio. While on tour in Mexico going to Cons and fan events Peter Capaldi thought the name was really cool so Steven Moffat titled this episode that, another cool fact is Peter was shocked at how deep the announcer on the Spanish/Mexican overdub announced Doctor Misterio(Doctor Who) that in this episode when The Doctor introduces himself as Doctor Mysterio and says it in the deep voice that was Capaldi paying homage to the announcer in the dub and it was him impersonating him.
It is true, but not exact. In Spanish you don't ask "Doctor quién?" when asking for a doctor's name, but "Doctor qué?", so in the 70s during its introduction to Mexico and before it became famous, calling it "Doctor quién" made no sense, and "Dóctor qué?" didn't really have a ring to it, so trying to say that his name was a mystery, they briefly called it "Doctor Misterio".
After the show was pretty well known internationally, it has been called "Doctor Who" in Mexico as in the rest of the world.
The detail when you realize he was trying to get back to Amy and Rory :')
I know, right? 😭😭
Cant lie. That ending is what makes that episode for me. Loved it
There are a few Easter eggs in this episode - WHen the Doctor appears at Christmas, Grant is 8 years old.. and when he returns to Grant as an adult, Grant is 32.. which is 24 years later. So in essence Grant was guarding earth while the Doctor spent those 24 years on Derillium. So basically the Doctor took a 24 year vacation from defending the earth - and now that River has gone to the libary, as he puts it at the end "I was away, and now I'm back - and Nadole adds "24 years, what a night". So Grant can hang up the cape and costume.
Also when River is mentioned at the end, the music suddenly shifts to the theme music from Forest of the Dead.
This is one that, on paper, shouldn't work at all. But somehow it just does. I think its just the right amount of cheese, and committing to the silliness.
As a member of the PMHL - The Protect Mr Huffles League - I must protest most strongly at the protracted 'Huffling' portrayed. In the days of the Huffle King, this sort of outrage would not have happened! Madames, this Huffling must cease! I will definitely write to somewhere and remain your most humble and most dedicated complainant.
Oh Katrina. I am so very sorry to hear of the loss of your friend. I've lost a number of close friends over the past decade. It hurts like hell. I hope that you retain more happy memories, rather than the inevitable sad one.
Doctor Who is a show that can honestly be any genre or setting, that's its true power as a cultural touch stone that it has been many things over its long history. So no matter what you need it to be, it is just that and will always be there for you to rewatch and enjoy.
I absolutely love Nardole as a companion. I understand he's a fairly well known comedian in England, but all I know is he's great here.
In Mexico they renamed "Dcotor Who" to "Doctor Mysterio"...that's where they go that title from
I love the empathy these two express with tears at the end, it's their heart crying, which shows they have kind loving souls.
This episode is a lot of fun and I was honestly shocked that more people didn't enjoy it as much as I did. Yes, it is pretty cheesy in places, but you can also tell the show isn't taking itself very seriously here. I for one love that. It's nice to just be goofy now and then. And even with all the silliness, they still manage to nail the emotional beats at the end. Brilliant. :)
It's my favorite episode of all time... 😅
I loved the reaction to the “torture” of Mr. Huffle.
He feels pain
One of my favorite XMas specials. I always found the difference of reception really interesting between in the UK, US, AUS and everywhere else
Love the nod to Amy & Rory at the start of the episode, and the mention of River at the end. Just a really nice coda to everything before.
Dr Mysterio - Dr Who in spanish speaking countries if I remember correctly, or at least that’s how Moff and PCap got the idea
Love the crowd control motion with the hamburger.
And that Grant was in DB Evolution
13:46 the Dr & Grant did get a comic both together!
I forking LOVE Nardole as a companion. Apparently the Doctor likes Pokemon, who knew? I love the comic aesthetic of this episode. That nickname of Dr Mysterio is absolutely perfect. Poor Mr Huffle who feels pain.The end always makes me tear up
You're right, you never know when Grief will hit you again, but with some of Moffat's words through the lens of Peter Capaldi, you'll definitely increase its likelihood.
This just revived my desire to buy a Mr Huffle.
I am so sorry Katrina! Sending love!
Vindication on the homage to Back to the Future / Michel J Fox...
Mr Huffle needs to be part of the permanent Tardis console
YES
This is what I love about Moffat's writing, he's always trying something new.
I love how he experiments with things! Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but at least it breathes a bit of new life into the show.
He had to fight to get Clara back to accept letting River go.
This is one of the best Xmas specials, YES!!!!! And Series 10 deserves more love, can't wait!
Oh stop it, you’ll have me at it! I knew you’d love Mr. Huffle!
I bloody love this story, and I'm so glad y'all did too. You clearly have excellent taste :)
Dr Mysterio is what Doctor Who is called in Mexico.
A year later, bam, right back in that old heart muscle
Yeah, it's cheesy ... but guess what? I LOVE CHEESE.
This is such a sweet and sentimental one! Glad you enjoyed it. Great reaction!
So glad someone else actually likes this one
Sorry about your loss Kat. That sad never really goes away, but one day you’ll find that the memory of that loss becomes bitter sweeet, and you’ll be laughing about the good things even while you’re crying.
Stay silly fellow whovian.
BTW this was one of the better Stevie Mo-fat episodes for me. But anytime Superman comics get love I’m happy.
this is thing with Moffat. He’s such an ambitious person when it comes to his creativity. He really goes in 110% and he can overshoot himself, but when he gets it right, it’s sooooooo good.
That's what Doctor who was always been really good at, literally playing with every emotion like toys. That's what makes terrific, like life there is no one clear cut emotion at any time. Do you want joy fear anger content love sadness... I'll just take a all you can eat with a little bit of everything.
A really fun episode!
I have never done this but it might be worth it...watching The Husbands of River Song, then the Library episodes, then this. They happened back to back but not in the order we first saw them.
I love the little moments where Katrina seems like she’s about about to ask “do you recognize ___” and then stops to see if/when Paula will catch on naturally
I have always considered this a so-so episode but I will give credit to two things: the boy acting as one would and taking the "medicine" because the Doctor, as usual, was vague. The second thing being Nardol's speech at the end.
I still need a Mr huffle.!
Hey Katrina, I relatively recently lost a friend as well, well it was actually back in September but it's still a very weird feeling, he tragically died from complications resulting from an epileptic seizure, it was something I never thought I'd hear about happening to anyone close to me. I mean you have celebrities pass and your great grandparents pass and if you never really knew them it generally doesn't tend to impact you that much, that's not to say it isn't sad because it of course still is, but you know you're generally not always that effected by it. To be completely honest I wouldn't even necessarily say he was even my best friend, but he was still a friend who I'd been to college with for a few years a good number of years ago and we've worked on filming projects for many years as well so I can definitely say I've been fairly deeply affected by his passing. But yeah for me it's hard to describe because I wouldn't say I have ever cried my eyes out about it and that's obviously not to say there's anything wrong with that if you do as everyone grieves differently, but it's felt more weird than anything else, it's like it doesn't feel real, even after a good few months now it still doesn't quite feel real. The funeral was what probably hit me the hardest, seeing his mother distraught as he was being buried, that probably had to be the hardest moment for me, I think I struggle showing my emotions with certain things, especially when I'm around people, but I could definitely feel that sadness and I still do underneath, I think I just think about his family more than anything else and how much this must have destroyed them because he really was such a lovely person, he never judged anyone and he was always himself and didn't change himself for other people, but as I say everyone grieves differently and of course it depends on the circumstances as well, so I can't say I could even begin to imagine what you're going through so the last thing I would want to say is not to worry or to not be sad, especially because I don't know you so I would never pretend to understand everything you've been through, but you know what I reckon you're strong enough to get through anything because although as I say I don't know you, I bet you've been through some indescribably rough times prior to this and the fact that you're still going on is incredibly admirable, sorry I hope this doesn't sound too obvious and cheesy, but I think you're an incredibly strong person and there is absolutely nothing wrong with venting and expressing that grief whenever you need to, but just remember we're all here for you, so if you need someone to talk to, if you're comfortable opening up, feel free to message me whenever you like and I know I'm a stranger so I might not be the appropriate person to talk to, but you're more than welcome to share whatever you're comfortable sharing, if you think it will help at all. :)
It really is so wonderful that you two ended up starting the Moffat era as [gestures around] all of this began. At least twice a season there will be a moment when one is given the opportunity to just bawl ones eyes out and let out the emotions one has been holding in. For me, even seeing a clip of a Capaldi speech will get me tearing up.
I mean, it's barely a "Christmas" special - you can get away with watching this in January. I actually enjoy this one quite a bit! It definitely helps to know the context that this is Moffat's tribute to the superhero genre. Is it cheesy? Sure - but so was Richard Donner'a Superman.
I'm not sure the villains are that fleshed out, but I love that the heroes follow certain superhero tropes (nerdy secret identity in love with ace reporter) while flipping others on their head (Grant being a manny to her baby), while the Doctor just watches on with secondhand embarrassment, so it's kind of fun.
Also, Mr. Huffle - god, it really shouldn't work, but it kind of does XD I don't know how they pulled that off.
Ironically it's a bit more New Years with that ending about endings and new beginnings.
Another quality supercat video!
Oh my. I remember looking at the time to see if there was a Mr Huffle replica available, as I found that part of the episode so funny. There wasn't one... but there is now. I've found it! Right. Off to spend more money on unnecessary nonsense. (and I'm not one bit sorry).
I love series 10. Doctor takes center stage again, without Clara, and I really like the new companion (and nardole)
aww i was hoping for some pertwee. Looking forward to series 10 reactions!! Please please please do a rewatch reaction to the library two parter!
Can't believe I forgot just how emotional Capaldi's Doctor's episodes were ...
Also, for as little as my words matter, I'm sorry for your loss; It's never easy, but as long as we remember them, those we lose are never truly gone
I actually love this one. I like the old superhero tropes where there's an awkward (and fairly obvious) secret identity to the characters unlike now. Truth to be told, I'm a bit Marveled-out...
Sorry to hear about your loss but life without emotional attachments is like living in black and white. While I do love a bit of black and white, you have to let the technicolour in.
I wonder if this was rated lower because there was such a long break. I remember being disappointed that we'd waited _so long_ and what we got was such a drastic departure from the normal Dr Who episodes it barely felt like Dr Who. Not to mention the intensity of the previous episode we'd dwelled on for a year. I wonder, had it come in the middle of a season surrounded by normal episodes, if it would have been better received. It's definitely better than I remember, so perhaps.
rock on S10 Capaldi rulz
Doctor Who is best when it's back and forth between bad and REALLY good.
Just to kind of prepare you for stuff you might run into later. Series 10 is the start of the era where the show gets accused of "going woke." Personally i never agreed with that assessment of series 10 and i think its a pretty good series. Just be prepared for comments bitching about wokeness. Going forward after series 10 will be a wild ride in that regard though.
Well, your reacting to season 9 came to an end, and that was sad, but now your reacting to Doctor Who has begun again and that's very happy. Capaldi was right again!
I loved this special.
Hi gals, if you read my comments previously, I did say the BBC iPlayer does place this episode at the END of series 9, the first episode of series 10 won’t be on till April 2017 😳
To be honest I've enjoyed Series 10 alot more than I enjoyed Series 8 and 9 because
1. Clara was gone
2. It gave Capaldi a chance to shine
3. Love Nardole first alien companion.
4. Better stories.
Love this!
Grant always reminds me of Chris Hayes (of MSNBC), if he got bit by a radioactive Clark Kent.
Ngl my favorite bit from this episode is Mr Huffle. Pity he never came back
new york was the capital until 1790
Without Capaldi I don’t think this episode would have worked, ten would have been good in this episode but I don’t think it would’ve landed the ending, 11 would’ve been great but it would have been more silly and again I don’t think he would’ve landed the ending, it’s definitely not a 9 story but 12 handles this story just right, god we were lucky to get Capaldi as The Doctor
Agreed: The ability to make great art requires taking big risks, and that mean you’ll occasionally create crap.
Like most comedic episodes I recall this one getting completely eviscerated by fans at the time, and certainly I went into it with a lot of apprehension and scepticism. In spite of everything though, I ended up rather enjoying this episode when I actually saw it, and while I don't think it's one of my favourite episodes (hell, it's not one of my favourite Christmas specials, and it's one of Moffat's lower ranked episodes for me), but I think it's a nice bit of inconsequential fluff, and a rather decent lead-in for series 10.
Part of my initial apprehension in going into this episode was because the central conceit of this episode is based around a genre that I don't particularly care for. Superhero films aren't really my cup of tea, and given that this episode came out around the time that the Marvel films were at the peak of their popularity I was certain this was just Moffat attempting to cash in on a popular craze. However, it's clear that this isn't the case, and in actuality Moffat is writing this story because he does love the genre, in particular the older more endearingly goofy stuff like the Christopher Reeve Superman films. You'd probably get more investment if you get the genre and the conventions that this episode is lampooning, but the script is so bursting with energy, wit, and genuine childlike excitement and enthusiasm that you can't help but allow yourself to be carried away with it. Likewise, you get the impression that all the guest performers are really invested in the story and are just having so much fun in their respective roles, from Justin Chatwin in the dual role of the earnest good-hearted Ghost and his bumbling Clark Kent-esque alter ego, to Charity Wakefield as the feisty journalist and love interest.
With all the attention given to the superhero stuff, you'd be forgiven for overlooking the Doctor and the 'Monster of the Week' plotline. Still, while this is given less focus than the Grant/Lucy storyline, the whole subplot with the Doctor and Nardole investigating Harmony Shoal's evil plan is very entertaining, and gives us loads of fun setpieces. Speaking of which, the monsters (who were the same species that River tried to sell the diamond to in the last episode) are rather fun, their gimmick is memorably gross, and the actors play the roles with a nice level of understated hamminess. Capaldi mostly gets to play it lighter this episode, sinking his teeth into the fairly standard Doctor role and lacking most of the angst and conflict that he'd gone through over the last two series, but he still nails the moments of repressed sadness that he's feeling over the loss of River. The speech he gives at the end is another doozy, and honestly one of the defining speeches of this incarnation (and it's also a nice little coda to his mini-arc from the end of series 9). It's a nice little poignant conclusion to what has been, for the most part, a rather lightweight and fluffy episode, and a lovely way to lead us into series 10 with the slate wiped (mostly) clean
Great Reactions Girls to, in my opinion, a Great Episode, I got chewing gum stuck to my shoe once. That spoiled the taste a little. Ok! I made that up.
In my last year at primary school we had a teacher, Mrs Evans, who had a habit of munching on the same bit of chewing-gum for hours on end. If she left the room for whatever reason, she'd stick the gum on her desk and pop it back into her mouth when she came back. One day, my cousin waited for her to leave the room, and swapped the gum for a small lump of plasticine. We all thought it was hilarious, but Mrs Evans was NOT amused :)
Series 10 is one of my favorite series. It's got some hiccups, but overall, I realy enjoyed it.
Ok, this is weird to admit..... But I've thought about this for years......
This is my #1 favorite Doctor Who episode of ALL TIME
... 😅🤭🙈
I remember, I HATED this episode upon first watch. I thought "this is NOT Doctor Who. WHAT IS THIS SHIT?" 😅
But I've rewatched this episode the most out of all episodes. It is SUCH a feelgood episode. And it's FUNNY. I think Justin Chatwin is PERFECT casting for Grant. I was so glad that I finally can love a performance if his. The most hated actor, who always picks bad projects for him (War Of Worlds, Dragonball Evolution, Another Life, just naming a few). And it probably hurt him as a person, too. When you watch one of his earlier performances like when he was on Lost that one episode, his voice was far from being this rough.
This happens, when you keep drinking and doing drugs.
But it's not only that. Especially the Doctor himself, coming from the loss of Clara AND River.
He must have been on honeymoon for over 20 years.
Imagine how heartbroken this Doctor must be. I can so relate. After the loss of my mother, among others, since 2019....
I hope this explains enough, why I personally love this episode so much.
I would never argue for other people to agree with me or to feel the same. I will just never change MY mind about this episode.
Until an episode comes along, that I love more. But I highly doubt that will ever happen....
Also the romance part? 🥹
Her realizing at 10:40 that she's actually been in love with the person who was right there the whole time.
I relate to that. I wish something like that would happen to me.
I mean, I'm not in love with a person, I already know, myself, but I find that idea so beautiful and romantic.... 🥰
Iirc, this was around the time I lost cable and couldn't keep up regularly with the show. Of course, went back and have seen them all now. This one is a bit all over the place but is fine. And has a couple of serious moments which could have been better without the squeaky toy. lol
12:58 Has Paula been....working out? (slight nod to the original Superman movie. ;-) )
I never liked this special, I have only seen it two or three times - there are other episodes I have seen over a hundred times, I actually enjoyed it watching along with you though
This episode is so bad :D It's so bad, it's even good lol.
Why can't you watch in order???? You're reaction to the old will be less impactful....
What's not in order? You mean slotting "Tomb of the Cybermen" in between Capaldi stories? What do you want them to do?
I can't express how much I hate this episode.
Pretty sure you just did....
It's a great episode.