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Hi from Ukrane! My friend was one of the biorobots, still alive, he has 5 children... and my father was drafted to do road bloks around Pripiyat, still alive too !
Don't bother telling them my friend, the won't believe it. It's pointless to try persuade americans about the rest of the world. It's not that they are stupid or bad people, it's the constant and propaganda the re fed by their media
@@arismaiden6457 actually I'm not bothered, just telling, I know that a lot of people died, not 31 like officials said, but were many people who got lucky
I watched the series and cried, then I was watching again...
@aris maiden
Our tv news and newspapers don't feed us propaganda. They occasionally make mistakes, but they don't just make up stuff. They show both the good and bad about America and the entire world. The channels PBS Discovery (and others) make documentaries that also show the same thing. You were complaing about propaganda and yet were making up propaganda about America and its citizens.
@@darthken815 News and newspapers are not the only way to shape peoples opinions. 1:50 explain to me the stereotypes 3 cunts have that a boy conscripted to army would suddenly kill an old woman. Why? Spoiler - because he's from soviet union. Not even russian. Because anything and anyone east of Poland(which is thankfully protected from you by EU and Germany nowadays) is not seen as human being by you. Even as a LotR fanboy, I feel a pain of understanding whom orcs are supposed to represent and why Tolkien claimed that they can't be redeemed(thus sentencing sentient race to extermination). Only much later in his life, after horrors WWII and creation of Israel that cunt apologised and changed his view. Stereotypes sell. They sell books, they sell movies, they sell videogames. And in Russia, Ukraine and many other former USSR states with their low population(thanks, guys. What would we do without you? Die from overpopulation probably) the consumage rate of media is rather low due to low numbers of viewers, players and so on. Unlike China for example. That's why you cunts keep silent about Hong Kong while selling more Cold War styled media about bad soviets(spoiler alert, USSR stopped existing almost 3 decades ago. In a few years it'll pass the time period of World Wars in size, meaning that you'd be living with equivalent of pre-WWI worldview after WWII. Though considering that _someone_ still CAN'T to this day admit Armenian Genocide, it's no surprise...). Because China have over a billion consumers. And you financially are bound to them since Reegan decided to use China as ally to win Cold War economically. You've made your bed, now we'll all watch you lie in it in next 20 years:P
the roof people didn´t all die, that´s why they worked only 90 seconds and in protective clothes
I mean, technically they did/will all die, just not then and there. I'm sure even that short exposure was enough to cut a lot of time from their lifespans, considering the insane level of radiation on that roof. I know the show for sure exaggerates things a good bit, but they definitely absorbed enough radiation to get bad health effects. I know in my country people who worked at Chernobyl still receive special government pensions and benefits designed just for them completely separate from other disability benefits.
@@ugaboj I've read that these people tend to have really poor quality of life not because of the radiation but because they didn't expect to live long so they started smoking and drinking without care.
@@mscheese000 That is probably true in a lot of cases. My dad actually refused to watch Chernobyl, because one of his friends back in the day was conscripted as a liquidator and apparently the guy came back totally mentally fucked up, presumably due to the knowledge of having been exposed to so much radiation. Died from health issues that may or may not have been radiation related a few years later.
Much less people died cleaning the roof then in USA hospitals for not having effective health insurrance.
@@llothar68 Okay, yes American healthcare is a bit of a disaster, but what exactly does that have to do with this? O.o
The distance from Chernobyl to the German border is just over 1000km (650mi), which is about as far as the distance between New York City and Indianapolis. So it was also in Germany's own interest to do everything possible to help out in this situation. Most people from outside Europe are also unaware that radioactive fallout was falling over large parts of Europe at that time. In the southern regions here in Germany, for example, you should not eat forest mushrooms even today, as they far exceed the limits for caesium-137. (Europe: www.bayernkurier.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Radioaktivitaet_in_Europa_49081034-954x1024.jpg Germany: www.bayernkurier.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Radioaktivitaet_im_Boden_49081087-738x1024.jpg )
By the way, I was 6 years old at the time and can still remember that I wasn't allowed to play outside anymore when that happened.
Those maps are quite old though. You need to consider the fact that cesium-137 has a half-life of about 30 years so more than half of it is gone by now.
@@fredriklindberg6166 The maps are from 1986, the year in which the accident happened, and show where the fallout took place. Of course, the radiation level is lower today than it was then. And yet even today, several thousand Becquerels per kilogram are still detected in mushrooms. No more than 600 Becquerels are permitted for sale in Germany. (www.bfs.de/DE/themen/ion/umwelt/lebensmittel/pilze-wildbret/pilze-wildbret.html ) As far as I can see, none of my statements are wrong. So I don't really know what you're pointing at.
Yeah there were a lot of cancer and some minor mutations in north of Turkey for a while too
Stay tuned for Episode 5, which should've been titled: "You Won't Believe How Badly You Want To Throw Your TV Out the Window." Or possibly even: "Making the Case To Fund a Machine Designed to Punch Somebody In the Face Through Time and Space."
As others said, most of the liquidators, including the ones on the roof, either didn't die or if they eventually got sick it was many years later. At this time there were some protective measures taken such as time spent in the highly radioactive places. There were some who suffered from acute radiation sickness but generally got better, some remained with frail health. There's a couple of documentaries where they have actual footage of the roof cleanup, the prep for it, it's been recreated on the show almost identically, very interesting, even the speech.
They couldn't show much of the other measures taken such as removing the top layers of soil and burrying them under clean layers that were underneath, spraying a whole lot of the surfaces in the area, the trees, to keep the contaminated dust and soil from being carried up and away by wind and such
If possible try to include the epilogue of episode 5 in the reaction or as a separate video.
There is a small documentary about the clean up called Chornobyl.3828, with footage of them clean up the roof. In fact they show a little of the real footage in the show itself on a monitory when they are giving the briefing. It's available on youtube and worth watching.
I thought I was a big tough girl getting through the first three episodes. This was the episode that broke me.
Chernobyl is an endurance test for everyone
Its just... Hard to watch. Especially knowing it happened
I broke almost right away in the first episode when the firefighters came rushing in without being told what was going on
Also is your profile picture the Flame of Tar Valon?
Corvus Callosum That is indeed the Flame of Tar Valon. The Tower stands.
Same.
Yeah, todays society... people, children can die, but for fuck sake dont eaven touch that doggy! Its sad and funny at the same time.
Yeah, this episode was brutal, so a little fun-ish detail: Did you notice the soldier at the beginning of the episode is the same actor who played Pyp in Game of Thrones?
Will you sing a song for me Pyp?
Pyp: I got one
Samwell: Oh did you? Is it over then?
Pyp: Well .. No
Samwell: Then I suggest you best keep shooting
The relationship between Legasov and Scherbina is my favorite part of the series
I can't believe you guys didn't edited the _you're done_ out of the moment on the roof the commanding officer guy says 'comrade soldier...you're done'. Especially since you guys said exactly that repeatedly. The moment he said that gave me chills!
One of the two reaction channels I found on Christmas Day that are my little personal gifts.
I enjoy yalls reactions a lot
Last episode is both epic and soul crushing. The ending pre credits just tear you apart.
The people on the roof were never sent back to radiation zone after being on it. Also Joker is still there, there are pictures of it
"There was one standout star of Chernobyl‘s depressing fourth episode, and it wasn’t any of the human characters. It was an adorable little robot by the name of Joker. In the latest episode of The Chernobyl Podcast, series creator Craig Mazin and podcast host Peter Sagal broke down the real-life story of the lunar and police robots that were used to clean up radioactive waste after the disaster.
After the Chernobyl 4 reactor exploded, it left a large amount of debris on the surrounding roofs. This included huge chunks of radioactive graphite. Officials realized that they could throw the graphite back into the reactor to build a sort of Sarcophagus over the reactor, encasing the radiation. But there was just one problem. It wasn’t safe for any human to go onto the highly radioactive roof.
“Exposure to radiation is cumulative, and it doesn’t go away,” Mazin explained on the podcast. “That place would … kill you in a minute and a half.”
The real solution the Soviet Union came up with was to use Russian lunar landers, called Lunokhod, and a borrowed police robot. Joker was one of the latter robots. It was originally from West Germany, and just like “The Happiness of All Mankind” shows, it was sent to the rooftop to remove the rubble. Two men even risked their lives moving graphite to make sure Joker could move freely on the roof. And yet the robot supposedly designed for these types of missions almost immediately died of radiation exposure.
“The Soviets - and this is mind-blowing to me - they refused to tell anyone how bad the situation was. Even then, months later, after the world knew about Chernobyl and knew what it meant they were still soft-pedaling just how bad it was to the point where they refused to tell the West Germans how much radiation was on that roof,” Mazin said. “It was 600 percent or 700 percent more than it could handle. And what blows my mind is the Soviet power system thought that was OK. Why not? Let’s just see. It’s the same kind of attitude that leads to Chernobyl in the first place.”
Most of the robots used seen in Episode 4 are CGI. However, the crew actually built a version of Joker for this episode. As for the real Joker, it’s still around. There are pictures of the robot online and it can be found in a garbage heap in the radiation zone. It’s still very dangerous and very radioactive.
The other depressing addition to this subplot was also true. After Joker and its peers largely failed, the Soviet Union did send up groups of soldiers to remove the debris. They were referred to as “biorobots,” and as seen in the episode they could only be exposed to the radiation for 90 seconds at a time. Any longer than that and they would risk death. As Mazin reveals, roughly 3,000 men completed this mission, all donned in homemade armor. Naturally the Soviet Union refused to properly equip these men who were risking their lives.
As is always the case with this show, Chernobyl may seem grim, but the reality was worse. So, so much worse."
Image of the real "joker" (very dangerous yet)
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I'm sorry about Sesshoumaru
"What about the flies"
It has a bigger effect the further up the food chain you go - so here in Sweden the worst affected animals where Reindeer and Elks. Mushrooms that store things in mycelia were also restricted food for a very long time and still have high levels of radiation in some areas.
Insects are like electronics. Small and fail fast in radiation.
Many species of insects can actually withstand MUCH higher doses of radiation than humans can. Fruit flies and some ant species can survive doses of over 1600 Grays. Humans exposed to over 5 Grays over the full body have a 50/50 chance of dying, and over 10 death is pretty much guaranteed.
Davis FourOhFour laughs in cockroach
Shotz of Lead cockroaches aren’t insects, they’re aliens.
I’ve seen Men In Black.
The radiation did kill and shorten the lives of many, but so many reactors seem to be overestimating the damage. The people on the roof definitely didn’t get nothing, but the talked earlier about how long they can be exposed and what it would do. Thy said 2 minutes cuts life expectancy in half, 3 kills in months. They deliberately sent each person for 1.5 mins
Ludmilla actually never touched her husband in the hospital. But her baby still died.
Yes she did, she hugged him the first time she saw him
Fun fact. Her husband wouldn't even be dangerous to her in reality, radiation itself is not a disease, you don't become radioactive if you're simply exposed to it, one of some creative liberties in this series :)
@@everythingshiny Not in real life.
@@Lukas-er4nd Breathing in radioactive material would cause you to be a source if the material was Beta and gamma sources as these types of radiation can past through the skin (alpha, which is the most damaging, can't). If the firefighters weren't wearing masks as per the series, her husband would have radioactive material inside his lungs and airways.
Lyudmilla touched her husband a lot in real life. It is way more horrifying when going into the details about that. There is nothing bad by touching someone who has been exposed to radiation as long as the radioactive particles are gone which are mostly stuck onto surfaces and would be inside of you as you inhaled them.
She stayed along her husbands side after the first few days which is what is portrayed for the most part, and she did realize that he was going to die and he was slowly dieing along with others of the firefighter wifes who were also there. They would sing songs to them, bake cakes, bring flowers and other stuff to them, and would try and help the nurses if they could.
According to one of the wifes there, one of them did grab one their legs when they were in that almost zombie state, and the skin and flesh came off the leg bone, and Vasily Ignatenko died of multiple organ failure about 30 minutes after Lyudmilla had left him after he had some flowers brought to her.
She did not understand the full scope of radiation until way later, and she genuinely thought that her baby would be safe as it was inside of her and the only visible thing that was wrong was the skin of all the people with radiation burns.
Her baby most likely died as a fetus has a lot of cell-copying and if some of the DNA gets destroyed or mutated (changed) then it can lead to issues, it is also why smoking, drinking, drugs, a lot of different pills etc. are bad when you are pregnant.
You don't have to do anything about COPPA until January 1st. Until then, do your research on alternatives, and enjoy the season. When the 1st comes up, set your previous videos on "Private", until this whole thing is sorted out.
This is some of the best advice, and likely the best/safest option for the channel. I do suggest DailyMotion as an alternative as well, at least in the meantime while TH-cam gets sorted out. I also suggest putting older videos on private and then creating a simple, quick video trailer to upload to TH-cam (perhaps with some clips of reactions etc. for new viewers) which informs people to check DailyMotion (or another alternative host site of choice) for the newer content, along with a brief explanation for the uninformed as to why the move is at least temporarily necessary.
Algorithm doesn't see the difference between private and not. Only manual review can tell it. And nobody would manually work with a hundred million youtubers over hundred billion videos.
Most of those people would be pretty much alright (I mean they definitely had like 4 times higher cancer chances, but none had recieved a radiation sickness) as they were only affected by gamma radiation at the limited time while having grear to protect them from the alpha and beta particles. Problem is that some of soldiers didn't took that to serious by extending their sorties or even going for the several in a row (and even not every of that received severe effects for the health). You can check out a documentary "Chernobyl 3828" about those people:
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Taking about graphite tips - this part is oversimplified as actually there were no "tips" and rods were twice as long as channels being half boron and half graphite (to displace water). There are some videos on TH-cam about this topic: m.th-cam.com/video/hIGtTImeYU4/w-d-xo.html
P.S. Soldier would have never shoot a woman just like that, it's not 20's. Same as when some people were threatened by armed guards in previous episodes - that's just a plain bullshit. There are a lot of small misconceptions caused by lack of cultural knowledge by authors caused some absurd scenes. E.g. they didn't explained why there is a vodka, making viewers to get back for ever-drinking Russians stereotype (and actually it was a myth that alcohol helps to clean radionuclides from the body, so soldiers were allowed to drink even there was a prohibition those years) or a doctor treating burns with milk (while they actually gave firemen milk to DRINK as there were also a myth milk can help with chemical poisoning which they believed they had). And so on...
If there is one thing I will criticize this show for it's not makeing it a little more clear that most of people involved here didn't drop dead a few weeks after all this. The number of people who come away from the show with this impression is a little iritating. I had to explain to my sister more or less what you posted above, and I'm still not sure she believes me.
Do a reaction video to a series called “peaky blinders” it’s set it Britain and it is really good
A lot of sex scenes too xD
Not so fun fact: they actually had 40 seconds
Another fun fact. They called them biorobots cause goverment forbiden using humans and told them they Have to use robots
Epic trivia everyone thanks
@@alibabapirce9782 Bullshit. They're called liquidators.
It really depends on what part of the roof they were working on. It varied from 30 seconds to 2 minutes I believe.
@@boskee All of the 600,000+ workers that came in for the cleanup were called liquidators, not just the 3,828 who cleaned the roof.
You made it through what many consider to be the most emotionally difficult episode. My condolences for the loss of your cat which I'm sure made this an even more difficult episode to watch for you. The next episode I believe will be very educational for you and not so hard hitting.
Would you consider reacting to the Firefly / Serenity series? I'm certain you ladies would enjoy it. Arguably one of Joss Whedon's finest work. Much less dark and has a lot of humor, it is a space western classic with a huge cult following. Special effects are dated, but that does not take away from the quality of the show.
The FTC thing isn't about "kid appealing" content in adult oriented vids; its about "kid appealing" content in general.
Google got caught collecting data on kids and were fined for it; so to cover their butts legally in the future they are throwing creators under the bus even though its not creators collecting the data.
So this is something you are going to have to deal with in your less "adult" videos as well.
Censorship at its finest fucking assholes
the scene with the puppies always breaks me... I know that it had to be done for the greater good, but ... I don't know....
I don't think I would be able to do it, I'd hate myself afterwards.
Figured I'd check to see if this was up one more time before I went to bed and just caught it, sweet. Gl with the legal thing, sad to see the relatively sparse background but with any luck this will be a temporary issue and common sense will prevail
The Liquidators on the roof are not necessarily going to die, and not over the next ten years as would be expected for Rads on the roof. yes they are getting Radioactive Exposure, and yes some of them might get enough to get radiation sickness, but this is several months after the incident, so the most radioactive particles have undergone several half lives, meaning hardly any of that nuclide are still in existence(highly radioactive nuclides underoes one of several forms of decay, turning it into a different and more stable nuclide of the same or a different(usually lower in table of elements) element. At that point in the incident they are no longer dealing with short lived fission products(the kind that killed Akimov and the other Reactor operators), and they are now dealing with long lived fission products that are a danger if ingested or inhaled. So accidently cutting his boot on the damaged boot is not going to automatically kill the Liquidator.
that cheery intro, hello, we're back again as always..
:( its going from dark to darker
It is not really possible to harden or shield electronics enough to protect against radiation on that level at a reasonable weight, it would require several inches of lead around every electronic component in the robot to keep those level of Gamma and Neutron radiation at bay.
"I serve the Soviet Union."
more like humanity...
thank you...
@@tyrionlannister4920 look up comment under all videos related to this show. Humanity had a laugh at poor souls that tried their best to stop this catastrophy. "Dumb soviet, US would have done better, just look at much better sarcophagus we build 30+ years later when all the danger is past not thanks to us" and all of that.
The lady on the left (stage right) overt talks to others to the point it becomes noticeable
Fun fact: the kid that slipped and got stuck, survived.
Oh yeah? Who is he how did you know?
@@doloressdu95 I think his name was jaan, I don't remember his last name, but he talked about the whole thing, I'm pretty sure you can google him. He's actually still alive, he's healthy. He recounted the events and he says he hasn't seen the tv show yet, but he likes that it's getting attention.
Watch The Green Mile and/or 50/50! You guys will love it.
I wonder how many people were sad at the cows and the dogs dying (and rightfully so) but do not realize that worse happens to the animals on their plates.
The idea that the baby absorbed the radiation, thus saving the mother, is not scientifically accurate. What made the difference between the baby and the mother is the baby's cells were actively dividing. That makes them more susceptible to damage from radiation. The mother's cells mostly were no longer dividing, so she was less susceptible.
Why do I get excited about watching people react to this dark episode?
That's the best tv show i saw..amazing.
Can y'all watch The Mandalorian
You should do Les Miserables (it has Hugh Jackman, Russel Crowe and Eddie Redmayne in)
it won't work if you go to a new site. its not just TH-cam its fully the internet (idk but patron of course)
Great reactions.
Please watch watchmen the show!!! So good
Red background looks like blood!
Who else held their breathe for the 90 seconds?
You can see the real footage of the roof cleaning here: th-cam.com/video/ti-WdTF2Qr8/w-d-xo.html The cameraman later died. Its amazing how accurately they recreated these shots in the series.
Worst "Joker"-performance in movie history.
I would suggest you guys stop laughing, it could attract children to this video! I am sorry, I am just sarcastic but you guys removing everything you love from the background and all that is ridiculous. What the heck is going on over there with this weird law? Also other reaction channels didnt do any changes?! (yet)
Y’all need to invest in longer un cut videos cause u have a great product here but the audience wants the uncut whole reaction.
Ur leaving out the reason 55% of us are here
Where is avatar
The vague rules of the FTC and COPPA affect adults reacting to a show that appeals to children. Google / TH-cam was fined heavy for child data collecting - and rightfully so. But pushing responsibility on content creators should not be the answer.
Awww Jeez
Reaction frozen 2 plz
how about you react to the spongebob movie sponge out of water
Please react to hacksaw ridge
Can u please watch new star wars trailer and put dark knight and stat wars a new hope on viemo
Can’t have anything ‘kid’ appealing. So I’m not allowed to enjoy those shows eh? Yes he FCC.
Sounds fascist.
It's more like the dumb agreement TH-cam signed with the FCC. TH-cam COULD do a better job of keeping kids stuff separate and monitoring what gets classified as kid friendly, but nah -- just fob that off onto the content creators and let them suffer the potential consequences.
The FTC isn't going to be going after every little thing that's kid friendly. They are drawing overly broad terms so that channels that are designed to go after the under 13 demo can't loophole their way out from punishment.
It's the Federal Trade Commission not the Federal Communications Commission.
so what happened to avatar
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You guys should stop assuming things
Why? They're speaking their opinions and theories. They don't know the whole story and facts yet. You just want them to sit there and be quiet?
@@mykeyacosta8434 They assume all those guys are going to die right away and are being lied to when it's pretty explicitly spelled out in the show that the whole reason for them only being allowed up there for a short amount of time is so that precise thing doesn't happen. That's what I mean by not assuming things with no basis.
As to commenters like you who decide to argue with someone about something they didn't even say, no I do not want them to sit there and be quiet. I did not say that nor imply it. I know reading comprehension can be hard for some people, but maybe you should read the comment a couple extra times just to be sure before you waste your time arguing against something that wasn't even stated. I'm so tired of it.
@@derikk3215 you could also easily point that out for them, help them understand things they missed or just went over their heads. You wouldn't be wasting anymore time than you did with your first comment.
And I'm in a bad mood so I don't really care how I make myself look or care to write correctly. Though I'm really not trying sound like a jerk.
ThatAussieGirl Because I said they shouldn’t assume so much? It’s a true statement without any name calling or insults. Are you that sensitive of a person?
It was horrible watching your reaction over the dogs, when it was more genguine than the people. Show that you aren't that far off with the communist thinking. Care for other people first, since we created dogs and care for them. The US is becoming more and more inhuman. Very unnerving.