Uropig I see people at the gun range all the time with their girlfriend or young teenage children and they look the same way! We all start some time in our lives. I was 20 before i took gun training, it wasn’t part of my childhood. Now i cant buy a gun without tearing it apart and customizing it.
A man who immediately puts his finger on the trigger of every gun he handles is making a documentary about how smart guns would be a great improvement for gun safety?
@Donald Soles smart guns would do that but then it would allow more power to people with smart guns what if they use it for murder or to further there own gain what if someone tries to use that gun to save themselves but is locked out so many con and pros to smart guns at the moment there’s to many guns out there that don’t have that kind of tech equipped To it. Even if you try to modify all the guns in world it would cost a lot and would most likely happen when old firearms as such start decaying but guns in general last quite long 😂 the non smart market is just to big METAL GEAR SOLID check it out
You’d think someone who does a documentary about “smart gun technology” would at least be smart enough to understand basic trigger discipline and to only point where you intend to shoot
It was probably done to push vices political agenda. Him doing that says, “Hey there are a lot of crazy people out there who will point guns at people believing it’s unloaded and pull the trigger.” “Therefore we need safer guns.” When in reality, pretty much any average joe knows to never point a gun at someone whether it’s unloaded or not, even if they have never touched a firearm themselves. Someone would have to live in a cave, to never come across these wise words.
I have guns with safeties and guns without them what I love about the Glock not having one is it trains your mind to be incredibly careful where as a gun with 3 safeties. Gives you that feeling of everything is good and I tend to be more relax with it. Example a few years ago I had a gun in my pants and the safety switched off from me moving around and I was like nope never doing that again if it’s chambered.
战火 trigger saftey isn’t even a safety trigger goes boom nothing else ,it’s very stupid , images holstering and u got a shirt caught in it, ur first reaction is to pull the shirt out , guess what congrats u shot ur leg off
Did this guy actually just "accidentally" dry fire a Thompson after just talking with a mother who's son was killed in a gun "accident"! I bet this is the first time he had ever held a gun and nobody taught him how to respect dangerous tools. Let me teach you rule number one, keep the barrel in a safe direction and keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.
Said by the stupidest person in the whole video. That 🤡 is a joke and it's terrifying that that is the sort of person selling firearms. It wouldn't be surprising at all if one of his kids ended up killing someone, accidentally or otherwise, with a gun once they're old enough.
@@tony1954 Exactly, my local gun shop always makes sure to tell people the basics of good gun ownership with every purchase, education about gun safety is always important.
That submachine is worth roughly 50thousand dollars and its price is only ever going to go up. Dry firing can damage the internal parts of a firearm so pulling the trigger (which is a very foolish amurtish thing to do to begin with) even made me a little sick in my stomach. Imagine if someone got into your luxury car and started playing with all the buttons like a child, let alone turning it on revving the shit out of it and turning it off without putting it back into park.
@@alecnolastname4362 Dry firing will definitely not damage any well built firearm. In fact, most in most training situations, we are expected to dry fire
@@alecnolastname4362 Then you install a new one if that ever happens. The entire point of function testing a firearm involves dry firing. The same goes for the Thompson. It's a POS if it can't handle being dry fired a few thousand times in it's life. The exception is rimfire firearms, which only are damaged because the firing pin hits the chamber wall instead of an actual cartridge.
Dry firing a gun doesn't hurt it, you practice a good trigger pull by balancing a dime on the front of your pistol and dry firing it without dropping the coin. Now dry fire a hunting bow, I dare you.
I am a nationally accredited firearm safety instructor. Watching this, I did something that I hardly ever do....I spoke outloud "Take your finger off the trigger, you idiot!!!" Were I there and in charge, I would have bodily thrown this unsafe asshole out of the room. Way to go, Vice, you destroyed any and all credibility you might have had, ever.
You lost your privilege of making fun of impoverished or under-educated white folks by using a faux southern accent as soon as you aimed that Thompson at another person, pulled the trigger and said, " I didn't know it was going to do that."
Yeah, fingerprint I.D. for guns is not the best idea. But I like the idea of the gun that responds to a chip implanted in hand. If my country had guns like the U.S., I dont think I'd get one though. I agree that if anything has the chance of going wrong, then it's not effective as a weapon (unless you had like a bayonet on it or something)
Imagine ur hands getting sweaty in a fire fight and ur gun Slips out of ur Hand. same logic. Do u really think in a world with machines smarter than humans it is not possible to invent a reliable safety mechanism for a gun ??
@@Fitzroy-k9t If your hands get so sweaty that your weapon slips out of your hands, you probably have some sort of medical issue with grip strength or excessive perspiration. And no, a fingerprint sensor is *not* a proper safety mechanism for a weapon. Have you ever handled a firearm or even looked at one up close? Notice that on pretty much every firearm the safety devices and mechanism are entirely *mechanical,* not electronic. Electronics are nowhere as reliable as mechanical devices. Remington tried to market a rifle and ammunition that used electrically fired primers (to put it in elementary terms for you: you needed batteries to make the gun go bang-bang). Despite the Etronix system being _very_ accurate, it was a commercial flop because nobody wanted a rifle that could fail to fire in an emergency due to dead batteries or electronics burning out, etc. The only applications for electronically fired weapons tend to be things like M134 Miniguns and autocannons which are generally mounted on vehicles that have no problem generating electricity.
Maybe because if you look this docu up (or at most comments here saying it) it would have told you its at least 2 years old. Stop trying to find a narritive that just exists in your head
Still. 2017 would be when this was made of its two years old. And even in 2017 our gun crimes had been going down. 🤷🏼♂️ Why don’t you do some research yourself?
I came up with a totally new idea while watching this video. Instead of smart guns, there could be smart trigger locks. Place your finger on the detector on the side of the trigger lock, it unlatches, then falls out of the trigger guard and the gun is ready to shoot. No new guns need to be designed as one could buy a smart lock for any gun.
I would like to point out how the vice representative has his finger on the trigger while admiring firearms, if you are going to talk about gun safety, maybe make sure you have someone who knows a little bit about firearm safety
That's really a perfect example for why smart guns are a great idea. It's simply a fact that everyone doesn't know how to safely handle a firearm, but a lot of people can get access to them through family and friends, and when you get a little too comfortable and curious, accidents happen.
@@doqtorisykero977 200,000,000 gun owners in america alone, and only about 500 accidental gun deaths each year. I would have to say a majority of us are responsible.
Kilgore Trout booger hook off the trigger for sure. Not that hard. Should know that by now. That’s the main issue with these story’s. Rest of the deaths is a human problem. We suck at knowing our animal selfs and brains.
McFro95 still should know how to safely use a gun. That’s kinda the point of the ep. it’s not hard. Also is an re post from 2017. This isn’t ok to do as a journalist. Can’t run a smart gun piece from 17 and pretend like tech hasn’t evolved as tech does. Journalism fail all day. Either side of the argument.
This takes a millisecond. That's why your kids get shot in school, maybe teach them this rule or smth else, that would be beneficial in this case... why innocent people has to die becouse someones stupidity ?! They atleast are trying to make some improvement.
@@kevinmorris2959 lol yes "lets make ourselves look like idiots while trying to make this reporter look like an idiot." that seems to have worked out perfectly
@@jimmyandersson5135 Your'e right about guns being dangerous if the person using them doesn't know how to use it. But it doesn't change the fact that the "Journalist" pointed a real gun at someone AND pulled the trigger. Anyone with common sense wouldn't do that
I know this is crazy, but in case of an emergency where a gun could be helpful, I don't want to be the only one in the area to be able to use that firearm. I want my friends and family to be able to protect themselves in case I'm incapacitated.
@@geerenmo We all know what Democrat/liberals ultimate goals are. The current assault weapon ban legislation moving through the motions proves it. Disregarding SCOTUS rulings at that!
"We've never owned guns" But let me make laws for you How about you do the four main gun safety rules when handling a firearm too? 1) Keep your finger of the trigger 2) Treat a firearm as if it is always loaded 3) keep the gun pointed in a safe direction at all times 4) know what your target is and what is beyond it I own an air gun and regularly shoot in my garden, behind my target was a soft material to slow the pellets, and behind that was a piece of wood that would make the pellets ricochet into the ground if any pellets got past the soft material. When I'm reloading it I keep it on safe, when I go towards my target i break the barrel downwards so I'm sure the rifle can't fire the pellet forwards at all. Smart guns are just an extra safety and that's it. Be a responsible parent! Don't leave your guns loaded, don't store guns with is ammunition if you know that your child could potentially get to your guns.
Im disappointed i had to scroll this far down the comments to see someone actually reasonable and constructive. Kudos to you, and i generally agree. I would not relinquish my 2nd amendment, and would staunchly oppose mandates for new gun technology, but i can't understand why so many are so strongly against even having these options. I love the last guy's bio-hacker technology, and i think if its something that you *want* you should be able to get.
@@forthexp8649 I'm not against it, but with guns, literally anything could fail you in the situation where you need a gun, the ammunition hang fires or doesn't fire at all, the gun has just enough fouling still in the mechanics to jam it. You aren't holding the weapon correctly, and the grip safety isn't released as a result. While it's nice to make sure I've got a safety, adding another safety on top of a manual safety and grip safety just adds so many more possibilities for failure. If you use a fingerprint for your phone, how many times has it told you that you haven't perfectly placed your finger the right way, or there's somehow too much moisture on your finger? I would guess that it happens at least once a day, that means we have to wait longer to use our guns, and that is critical in those specific situations where you need it immediately. P.S. I feel like I might have completely misunderstood your argument, please just tell me if I have
@@forthexp8649 why are you opposed to innovation? If this technology is perfected to be as reliable as your standard fire arm then there is no reason for not having it. If we can stop people from killing others than we should. The second amendment is for your own defense. It is not just an excuse to have a weapon that can efficiently kill multiple people in seconds. Remember that the second amendment was written with muskets in mind. We need to get all semi automatic and full automatic guns out of civilian hands, because the truth is, you only need one bullet to take down an attacker.
@@sumvs5992 The problems with things such as fingerprints can be ironed out if we would let these companies do some god damn research without destroying their reputation.
The host is ignorant on guns, even completely misused one in an early clip, you always treat a gun as if it is loaded. Instead he wanted to goof around with his camera man's life to be artsy, truly disgusting.
this has got to be a joke right. How is someone who almost killed his camera man going to advocate for a "smart gun" he should never touch a gun again because he broke almost every gun safety rule in place.
I watch this knowing I’ve always had my loaded weapons around my now 8 year old child since birth and never has he ever been curious enough to try to pick one up. That’s probably been since birth he’s been taught about firearms, knows exactly what they can do, and has been taught to be safe with them. At 8 years old he has such a respect for the firearm that any time he even wants to touch his own .22 he comes to me so he knows that I know his intention.
@@remyschroeder2052 true….since posting that comment he’s learned what a gun will do to living tissue. Got to see an animal draw it’s last breaths. So now he understands that too.
@Anonymous Panacea I collect vintage firearm's because I like the story and history associated with the gun I shoot them all, not all at the same time because I only have 2 arms and you need 2 to use 1 firearm. Regarding the smart gun thing, I don't really believe it will become viable and safe until battery technology gets better and "charging your gun" is not going to be something to worry about. Even then nobody that's ever owned a gun would willingly purchase a gun that has not been tested rigorously, purchase a gun from a company that doesn't have the legacy of other manufacturers, and furthermore trust their life to a gun that has a parameter to operate because seconds count when your life is in danger.
Well to be fair, not every one is buying every gun for self defense purposes. If you buy a gun for hunting or skeet shooting or plinking or just to have a cool looking gun or any other non-fighting reason, nothing bad happens if it isnt 100% reliable. Exactly as with the arisaka example (that was actually a really good one).
@Anonymous Panacea smartphones only last days if they're turned off, what you don't understand is it's not a waste to have multiple guns, the same way people collect stamps, baseball cards, Pokemon cards, cars , anything they like, I also do the same it just so happens I like guns. I don't know what you like but I do collect and in the United States of America it is a reflection of this countries greatness that you can do for the most part whatever you want as long as no one gets hurt.
Smart guns won't work because any kind of malfunction is an instant death sentence. If you're using your gun then you're in a life or death situation, the last thing you need is for the technology to malfunction in some form and result in you dying because of it. Even guns malfunction at a rate that's concerning to many people and result in deaths. How many times have you tried using the fingerprint scanner on your phone only for it to not recognize you? Now think you're in a situation where you need to use your firearm to defend yourself and your gun does the same thing, and now you're dead. This concept does more harm than good, I'm not saying more guns are th answer but I am saying smart guns would be a detrimental step in the wrong direction and would have serious consequences.
One good thing about being from the south, if I ever accidentally pointed a gun in the direction of my uncle while we were shooting, he'd slap me on the head. You learn gun safety pretty fast.
Ace2Trill probably the only good thing about being from the south. Besides, you shouldn’t need someone to slap you on your head to understand that you shouldn’t point it to someone else.
Ha ha ha ha, 1) at what point that you are protecting your house from a random person and they use a emp on you.... 2) why would you suddenly loss your finger? 3) keeping it charged? Not exactly, if you know much about electronics it wouldn't use much power and can alert you when it is low.
Where I find this ironic is how the reporter starts to "show off" the gun and it fired, probably much like how that little boy died. Folks, keep your guns locked up and learn your gun safety and maybe we can avoid these tragic deaths.
I have an android smartphone and an iPhone that unlock with facial recognition or fingerprint authentication and they work pretty much all the time, I'd say the rate of failure with guns and current-gen phone security failing is worth considering. You can believe in the tech to keep your data safe but not to keep your kids safe? The solutions that independent researchers are trying to implement with smart guns are not very polished or high tech but it's stupid if someone says that the tech doesn't exist to make efficient smart guns without screwing with usability. It's like saying that phone security decreases the reliability of making a call in an emergency. How often has someone not been able to make a phone call in an emergency because their phone wouldn't unlock?
I cried a little when the mother told her story Rest In Peace kid and stay strong momma, I don’t think the smart gun thing is really practical yet but as tech improves I could see some of this becoming more effective and fail safe and the result could potentially do some good so good on you guys, coming from a gun owner who is concerned about gun regulation , and does not want the government to go enforcing unconstitutional edict forcing people to use them.
The reason a “smart gun” can be dangerous is it’s one more thing to fail, sometimes when you use the Touch ID on ur phone it doesn’t work especially if ur hand is wet and that few seconds lost can be the difference between life and death
@@montcliffeekuban1335 Well if your child is stupid to know that a firearm can kill someone and your too stupid to know not keep your firearm away from the child then yes you should own a dumb,i mean smart gun.
@@montcliffeekuban1335 so true he just never was a Child if your a little Boy or girl you want to be like dady and shoot with guns so one day you find out the password of the save and Point with the gun at somebody and shoot him or here right in the face so he probably dies
@@philipmendorensis8687 funny cuz that suggests the person is dumb for putting the gun somewhere the criminal can get to it before they do which means having a lock on it wouldnt matter cuz the person would still be dumb its almost like its not the weapons fault but the ppl using it but thats just a common sense observation giving agency to the person rather than a inanimate object.
@@bookwalker3203 which wouldn't matter if you had a gun or sword or knife then the gun just gives you a even playing field cuz you can be weaker then them and still fend them off cuz a bullet doesn't care how strong or weak you are and that also suggests they close the distance before you pull the trigger which means they know you have a gun and most won't risk that and will try to run those who do charge still get hit and being wounded in a fight is always a disadvantage no matter how strong you are especially when it's a bullet wound no one's the flash and unless they are alrdy on top of you their chances are very low and even if they are on top of you it's now a grapple fight and the second you can get that muzzle on any part of their body you simply pull the trigger and I'd welcome you to try it tell me how the dirt tastes when you end up shot. I can guarantee you more ppl shoot attackers with their gun then attackers shooting ppl with their gun.
@@jaffartheblade You do know that if someone what's something badly even if they get shot they will continue moving the only way you are going to stop them is if you Shoot them in a vital place so u can still get overpowerd.
Man I just wanna hug this women ... im sorry for your los and I can’t imagine how hard it must be to lose a child ... I hope you are well and I wish you and your family all the best ...much love ❤️
"Um, like why are guns, like, so dangerous?!?" Proceeds to wrap finger around every trigger. The ATF guys are literally holding him so he doesn't do something retarded.
@Natasha Minor AMEN!!! ✅💯💯✅ Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way! There's an old saying that I love because it's so true, it goes something like "Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create WEAK MEN. And WEAK men create HARD times....." and sadly it seems that the cycle always repeats. Unfortunately for us, we currently have A LOT OF WEAK MEN in our nation/world.....
Unlike the public health official he knows airbags are more lethal and that there has been no evidence provided to argue that they make a car safer unlike seat belts and improved crumple zones in cars.
He could have been in an accident at some point that caused the airbags to go off but not total the car, you just remove the airbag mechanism, just doesn't want to pay for another
Finland is also an gun culture. It always been top 10. In 2008 we had an infamous school shooting, which was is very easy to get an 9m. If you're an finnish citizen prove as "sane" you could get an 9m as low 16. After the school shooting, they raise the age...to 18.
That’s y she shoulda taught him about gun safety and safety in general…he would have known once his friend had a gun to just leave and go home and tell a parent
I’ve seen videos of gun TH-camrs at events like shot show for example that have fingers on triggers during those shows. (I don’t want to misspeak but I feel like I’ve seen Ian from forgotten weapons do this)
That can be bypassed by using a balloon you blew up before you started drinking and tied a knot to. Or a fan attached to a tube. Or a rubens ballon (used for resuscitation). So no that's not a good idea.
It is scary. The fact we think having more guns than people is a good idea. The fact that fanatics walk the streets packing two handguns and a rifle in their vehicle. To protect the people? No, to give themselves an edge. Join the military if you want to be a gun toting child.
Z Fragz I think there should be more gun control, but I don’t see anything wrong with a person having more guns than they could ever need. I mean, they aren’t doing anything bad with it. Perhaps my biggest problem with these people is that they’re supporting an industry that benefits from, and encourages, scaremongering. The NRA is an organization, I think, deserves blame for the partisan landscape we see today
@@phong208 Most of us do/did, that's why we advocate for guns so much. Also, regardless of military service, you have the right to self-defense regardless.
@@phong208 People who carry legal firearms are 'fanatics' for wanting to protect themselves? To give themselves an edge? Over who? Criminals? To combating criminals and not being a statistic? Youre wildly stupid and this is why guns are never going away, because its morons like you that spearhead it and instead, yous get laughed at. Please sit. Just because you have freedom of speech doesnt mean you should use it.
Imagine your ammo had no primers... It is moronic to not consider something because of an imaginary scenario. They will only be brought to market if they work an extremely high percentage of the time.
@Santiago Colla That was my point, LoL. Glad to see my dumb analogy was decipherable to someone besides myself. They didn't stop trying to make cars safer because they might have a dead battery once in awhile.
@@ronniewilliams5347 Where I live the police have guns locked into a special glove compartment strong box. Only allowed out if the field leader or very specific incidents happens. Even if the latter would happen they would need to report the incident first and indirectly be ordered to arm up anyway... I would argue an unarmed police force in most Western areas would reduce the risk of people AND cops being shot on duty.
@@Lobos222 I encourage everyone I know to vote Republican trump 2020 he's our best chance at warding off this tyrant Bloomberg in the election. Whatever we can do peacefully as Republicans and Americans I'm all for... And in 2024 we can vote against the next democrat to make sure our country doesn't go communist like Bloomberg's plan (agenda 21)
@G Soap The other issue at hand here is states that have laws on the books that say once a smart gun is commercially available on the market, then the only guns your can buy are smart guns in that state. This severely limits the already limited selection that is available.
realifethunder The only instance of that I could find is New Jersey and it looks like they rolled it back. Do you know of other states that have those laws?
@@hedwardd Tlorida doesn't have that rule, the only rules are basic stuff about full auto, no incendiary rounds or piercing rounds which suck because piercing rounds are cheaper for me than field rounds.
39:40 Not surprised about the failure: you put sensitive, finicky electronics into a firearm with exposure to dirt, oil, heat and extreme acceleration/deceleration from the recoil. I'd call that a Very Dumb Gun. It's the main reason why only very few gun owners will ever want to buy this.
It's the same issue with electronics in cars, and why adoption has been very slow, because more times than not you get added points of failure. Just see all the automobile recalls in recent history.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj And the fact that a basic Toyota Corolla costs 20K now. Modern regulations and consumer trends have priced younger people out of the new car market.
That’s like saying you would never want a computer at the time when computers took up whole rooms. This is new technology that still needs money and time. If it can be perfected think of all the lives that can be saved.
@@brremsilverte.9022 Exactly! I'd never buy a "smart" gun with today's technology. If the technology advances enough, some people will at least consider it.
The fact that people would rather make legislation to prevent less than 500 accidents as opposed to turning their attention to mental health and preventing 22,000 suicides is mind blowing.
So if somebody dies we should just see that as nothing more than a moral agenda, and disregard it as facts? What about the way tobacco companies sold people lies and killed people with their products until the government stepped in? Was that just pulling heartstrings to destabilize the tobacco industry? What about the men and women who die for our countries and all their stories? Was that pulling heartstrings to push American agenda? What about all the jews that died in nazi Germany, or the slave trade and all the stories of families being ripped apart for money and breeding? Was that all just pulling the heartstrings to push the agenda against racism? Sometimes I think people just denounce tragedy because it reveals terrible things that are happening, and they don't even want to see the fact that people dying and life lost is a downside.
@@maxjones2546 facts and emotional pleas are different. Fact, her boy died from an accidental gun discharge. Emotional plea...her ten minute emotional soliloquy about how much she misses her son.
I will kill ANYBODY who currently poses a threat to the life of myself or any innocent people around me in that moment, if I have to in order to stop them.
When I was 19, in a poor, urban area that was very close to there, I had to use a firearm in a home defense, during a home invasion. My gun was locked up and hidden. In the extra seconds it took me between hearing my door getting kicked in, and getting to my gun, unlocking, and loading it, my roommate could've gotten killed. I didn't pull the trigger, it took the cops 15 minutes to get there, while school was getting out, kids were all over the place, someone's trying to kidnap my roommate, and I'm telling 911 I think this guy's gonna force me to shoot him. Cops said if anything like hat happens again, shoot the second I have a clear shot.
maybe people dont want a finger print identification system on a gun because just like me they too have put their finger on their phone only to have it say it doesnt recognize your fingerprint even though it recognized it 1000 times before that and nothing has changed imagine pulling out your weapon to defend you and your families life only for it to not recognize your finger print and not let you defend you and your families life like seriously imagine dying with your gun in your hand because it wouldnt shoot because for whatever reason it doesnt recognize your fingerprint
You are missing the point. This is not a technology concerning random split-second situations; the concern is someone other than yourself firing the gun. If the fingerprint reader isn't working for you, then it isn't working for your kid who DOES know where you keep it and DOES know how to get their hands on it despite how locked up you may have it. And in what situation are you going to need it to protect your life anyway? In the time it should take you to define an actual lethal threat to yourself, it's already too late for you because you are already dead. That is... unless you are trigger happy and shoot first while never actually knowing how much of a threat you faced. Are you aware of how many people have accidentally shot their own family members in such a scenario? Which then begs the question, who was the actual threat? Why are you afraid of hypothetical scenarios you are likely never going to encounter. And if you do encounter them, you're likely going to react the wrong way, regardless. Can't we just drop the guns are for personal protection BS? People own guns because they like to shoot guns and it can be fun in specific sport or hunting scenarios. If you are using in a protection scenario, you can't really win unless you shoot first, and the chances of you doing that while also doing so against a "legitimate" threat are slim to none. If it is a legitimate threat, you won't have the chance to. You are not some soldier with your gun at the ready. And if you are not in uniform and are walking around with a gun ready, who then looks like a lethal threat?
@@benzero75 people defend themselves with firearms every single day just because that's not what you see in the news doesn't mean it does not happen.... Check out Active Self Protection's TH-cam channel bud stop being so misinformed...
You repeat coming against a legitimate threat are slim to none. So what about when it does happen and you or someone you love is raped or killed? It’s better to have the gun/self defense tool and not need it than need it and not have it. Also to add to this the founding fathers didn’t create the right to bear arms for strictly self defense or hunting. It’s about the preservation of our rights to be citizens and have liberty than subjects of tyranny. And when they said militia in the second amendment we the people are the militia it is every able bodied person.
This dude claiming guns haven’t seen any innovation *while* walking through a varied library of unique and improved guns is mind boggling. This is what happens when you send someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
That will never happen. People are stupid and any attempt at mandating firearm education will be met with calls of tyranny. So either you keep the status quo or let people come up with solutions.
"lets take something that has to be 100% reliable like your life depends on it and add delicate computer chips, batteries and tiny moving parts that will face thousands of shocks and bumps. nothing could possibly go wrong here." I'd never ever trust my life to a smart gun. Even if they could make one reliable, they will be defeated. by determined folks. and the hundreds of millions of guns out there right now certainly aren't going anywhere.
Thanks for posting this interesting and important film up. What an assortment of guns in the governments collection. Never seen the cigarette packet, umbrella or pencil guns before and Ernst Mauch's HK 416's is an astounding beast of an automatic, also where can I sign up for an implant like Amal Graafstra please? I won't need keys ever again. Having said that, my grandfather shot himself climbing over a gate, with a ring and smart gun he'd have survived. With 22,000 suicides and a mass shooting somewhere everyday in the US the time is right for a smart weapon, Michael the gun shop owner is old school, his thinking will never change. It's quite telling that Smith & Wesson suffered a huge backlash from the NRA, they want guns to work, not, might work and anything that restricts their freedoms given in the second amendment. A good comparison would be seatbelts in vehicles, once there were none, then they fitted for the front seats but were mainly looked upon as an accessory but because of the road crash statistics they changed the law, nowadays everybody has to wear one, even on buses and coaches and many thousands of lives are saved. Let's face it, the people who go rogue with a gun and cause mass shootings are mostly psychologically unhinged lone males.
“I didn’t expect it to do that.”
That. Is. How. People. Get. Killed.
Please never pick up a firearm again unless you get some training.
@Adolf Shitler did you know basic knowledge doesn't require the handling of a firearm?
The whole point is that he's an **outsider** looking into the world of guns....
Uropig I see people at the gun range all the time with their girlfriend or young teenage children and they look the same way! We all start some time in our lives. I was 20 before i took gun training, it wasn’t part of my childhood. Now i cant buy a gun without tearing it apart and customizing it.
Ive never had a single type of training and own many weapons, whats your point?
Uropig so respect the rules of handling firearms before going balls deep
A man who immediately puts his finger on the trigger of every gun he handles is making a documentary about how smart guns would be a great improvement for gun safety?
yeah .. people are stupid! Smart guns would prevent these mistakes from being a danger
OR ... Mabey we ban stupid people. I think that would solve a lot of the major problems facing society.
trap king yes. This. Ban idiots
@Donald Soles smart guns would do that but then it would allow more power to people with smart guns what if they use it for murder or to further there own gain what if someone tries to use that gun to save themselves but is locked out so many con and pros to smart guns at the moment there’s to many guns out there that don’t have that kind of tech equipped To it. Even if you try to modify all the guns in world it would cost a lot and would most likely happen when old firearms as such start decaying but guns in general last quite long 😂 the non smart market is just to big METAL GEAR SOLID check it out
@Justin Trudeau yeah I'm completely fine with that idea but they require that much to drive and see how many people are bad drivers still
has his finger on the trigger of every weapon he holds..... wtf
I saw that to
Should have had a smart gun.
informitas 0 lmfao
Exactly this video is ironic when he avoids all safety rules
This goes to show that it’s not the guns fault for killing people it’s stupid people with guns that’s the real problem no cap
“i wouldn’t allow a smart gun within 100Mi. of here”
...30 sec later, guy with smart gun comes into shop🤣🤣🤣🤣
8:22 I can't believe he really just pointed a gun at the camera man and pulled the trigger... This is the kind of stupidity that gets people killed.
This guy is crazy!
You’d think someone who does a documentary about “smart gun technology” would at least be smart enough to understand basic trigger discipline and to only point where you intend to shoot
It was probably done to push vices political agenda. Him doing that says, “Hey there are a lot of crazy people out there who will point guns at people believing it’s unloaded and pull the trigger.” “Therefore we need safer guns.” When in reality, pretty much any average joe knows to never point a gun at someone whether it’s unloaded or not, even if they have never touched a firearm themselves. Someone would have to live in a cave, to never come across these wise words.
hence a smart gun is needed
Exactly
Tell the reporter to stop putting his finger on the trigger when not in use, that's why people shoot especially with glocks cuz they have no safety
I love glocks and have a couple of my own but just never been a big fan of the no safety
They have a "safety" feature. *cough* If you could call it that.
I have guns with safeties and guns without them what I love about the Glock not having one is it trains your mind to be incredibly careful where as a gun with 3 safeties. Gives you that feeling of everything is good and I tend to be more relax with it. Example a few years ago I had a gun in my pants and the safety switched off from me moving around and I was like nope never doing that again if it’s chambered.
The blocks only had a trigger safety
战火 trigger saftey isn’t even a safety trigger goes boom nothing else ,it’s very stupid , images holstering and u got a shirt caught in it, ur first reaction is to pull the shirt out , guess what congrats u shot ur leg off
Did this guy actually just "accidentally" dry fire a Thompson after just talking with a mother who's son was killed in a gun "accident"! I bet this is the first time he had ever held a gun and nobody taught him how to respect dangerous tools. Let me teach you rule number one, keep the barrel in a safe direction and keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.
Just was about to post it myself as an ex police officer
PREACH BABY, gun safety always
He pulled the trigger while pointing it right at the cameraman.
Mohd saqib you didn’t have to mention that you are an ex pig lol
dry fired agun the dude said wasworth 4050k
"We can't fix stupidity". The best words and statement in this whole video.
Said by the stupidest person in the whole video. That 🤡 is a joke and it's terrifying that that is the sort of person selling firearms. It wouldn't be surprising at all if one of his kids ended up killing someone, accidentally or otherwise, with a gun once they're old enough.
If he doesn't take that finger off that trigger while just holding the gun I'm gonna start yelling.
The gun store owner should have pointed it out to him. Good opportunity to educate about gun safety.
@Matt I felt worried the ATF guys weren't correcting him while he was at their vault filming the guns lol he definitely needs a safety lesson.
You're right to point out how stupid that was but not all of the reporting he did was bad.
@@tony1954 Exactly, my local gun shop always makes sure to tell people the basics of good gun ownership with every purchase, education about gun safety is always important.
@@defcon12 This was definitely an interesting piece and props to everyone involved, gun safety is just a big thing to me lol
*Nearly kills camera man*
*Oops didn't know it was gonna do that*
*ATF GUY: Uh huh....*
That submachine is worth roughly 50thousand dollars and its price is only ever going to go up.
Dry firing can damage the internal parts of a firearm so pulling the trigger (which is a very foolish amurtish thing to do to begin with) even made me a little sick in my stomach.
Imagine if someone got into your luxury car and started playing with all the buttons like a child, let alone turning it on revving the shit out of it and turning it off without putting it back into park.
@@alecnolastname4362 Dry firing will definitely not damage any well built firearm. In fact, most in most training situations, we are expected to dry fire
@@rapl1183
Ultimately its dependent on the firearm, that being a 70year old piece...
@@rapl1183 vibrations In the firing pin can and will crack it.
@@alecnolastname4362 Then you install a new one if that ever happens. The entire point of function testing a firearm involves dry firing. The same goes for the Thompson. It's a POS if it can't handle being dry fired a few thousand times in it's life. The exception is rimfire firearms, which only are damaged because the firing pin hits the chamber wall instead of an actual cartridge.
The ATF agent was annoyed AF that he dry fired his 50k Tommy gun. 😂 8:22
NotsoGrim camera man has a misfire in his pants
Oh my God. Lol. Seriously, he looked like he was pissed.
I'd want to punch that guy in the face for pulling some ignorant bullshit like that..
Dry firing a gun doesn't hurt it, you practice a good trigger pull by balancing a dime on the front of your pistol and dry firing it without dropping the coin. Now dry fire a hunting bow, I dare you.
Came straight to the mf comments when he did that 😂
@@kylekrause9568 😂😂
"hey, see that reporter that's walking in right now?"
"Yeah, why?
"Grab me a semi-auto 12 gauge, this is gonna be hilarious"
The most dangerous thing about guns in this film is the dangerous handling of them by the interviewer.
And also the people that cant see that the gunlaws were great in the wild West but not in a first World country
Guns Zen 8:22 oh look how people die by accident well in this case the guy never held a gun in his life.
@@n-doghansenmand5655 fine for a first world country as long as dumb asses like this guy don't touch them.
I am a nationally accredited firearm safety instructor. Watching this, I did something that I hardly ever do....I spoke outloud "Take your finger off the trigger, you idiot!!!" Were I there and in charge, I would have bodily thrown this unsafe asshole out of the room.
Way to go, Vice, you destroyed any and all credibility you might have had, ever.
@@n-doghansenmand5655 its a 1st world wild west. Much crazier then 3rd world if we let it get out of hand.
You lost your privilege of making fun of impoverished or under-educated white folks by using a faux southern accent as soon as you aimed that Thompson at another person, pulled the trigger and said, " I didn't know it was going to do that."
privilege waaaahhhh
Jesus Christ....this dude's trigger discipline and handling is legitimately terrifying.
Was checking the comments just for this.🙏
"there was a gun i wanted to get, from a video game actually" yeah dude we can tell
Rush b
as if the average gun person isnt an overweight dude who likes wearing camo
@@eddiebooth9795 GOTEM
Pure nerd. The faces he makes when he shoots 🤣🤣🤣 get back to your halo tournament bahahahahah
@@eddiebooth9795 well considering there is 90million armed citizens i bet gun owners come in every shape size and color
Bro my fingerprint sensor on my phone only works like 70% of the time.
yea but what would that number be if you were in a tense situation with clammy hands?
Why not use multiple fingerprints to unlocks like all 5 then the chances of unlocking would be higher.
@@AmiyaKSahoo Or have no fingerprint sensors and it will work all the time
@@AmiyaKSahoo 5 more fingers to fail idiot and I hope you know finger print scanners some times read wrong finger prints as right
My first phone that had a fingerprint scanner it didn't work at all now the one I have it's probably 1/5 times it will fail
Am I the only one out here drooling over the ATFs collection
Shotzombie id argue that some of their collected guns were stolen from a law abiding citizen lol
Mason Taylor that they are I would say most of them are.
Every episode of Forgotten Weapons in one room...
Amazing the property you can accrue in a dictatorial style government role.
Nope, your not the only one LOL amazing collection for sure.
imagine ur hands getting sweaty in a fire fight and ur gun doesnt recognize ur finger print
Well kiss your family goodbye
Yeah, fingerprint I.D. for guns is not the best idea. But I like the idea of the gun that responds to a chip implanted in hand. If my country had guns like the U.S., I dont think I'd get one though. I agree that if anything has the chance of going wrong, then it's not effective as a weapon (unless you had like a bayonet on it or something)
Or if you wear gloves like many shooters, including most of the military.
Imagine ur hands getting sweaty in a fire fight and ur gun Slips out of ur Hand. same logic. Do u really think in a world with machines smarter than humans it is not possible to invent a reliable safety mechanism for a gun ??
@@Fitzroy-k9t If your hands get so sweaty that your weapon slips out of your hands, you probably have some sort of medical issue with grip strength or excessive perspiration. And no, a fingerprint sensor is *not* a proper safety mechanism for a weapon. Have you ever handled a firearm or even looked at one up close? Notice that on pretty much every firearm the safety devices and mechanism are entirely *mechanical,* not electronic. Electronics are nowhere as reliable as mechanical devices. Remington tried to market a rifle and ammunition that used electrically fired primers (to put it in elementary terms for you: you needed batteries to make the gun go bang-bang). Despite the Etronix system being _very_ accurate, it was a commercial flop because nobody wanted a rifle that could fail to fire in an emergency due to dead batteries or electronics burning out, etc.
The only applications for electronically fired weapons tend to be things like M134 Miniguns and autocannons which are generally mounted on vehicles that have no problem generating electricity.
8:21 This dude is unbelievable. You never point your gun at anyone unless you want to harm that person, no matter if it is loaded or not.
why didnt you guys use the 2019 statistics for gun violence? cause its much lower than the 2015 statistics.
Maybe because if you look this docu up (or at most comments here saying it) it would have told you its at least 2 years old. Stop trying to find a narritive that just exists in your head
Still. 2017 would be when this was made of its two years old. And even in 2017 our gun crimes had been going down. 🤷🏼♂️ Why don’t you do some research yourself?
@@maka6134 says the person skirting around the fact that gun crime is down as well as all violent crime
@@maka6134 Then why the fuck did they release it now genius?
@Viktor Poiasnik are you saying that violent crime numbers being down doesn't matter?
Maybe instead of smart guns, we need smarter humans.
shino88 if only their were more people like you
Easier to make smart guns, than educate the average american(Who's most of the time proud of their ignorance, for some reason).
Orcawhale but educating the average doesn’t just reduce gun violence it’s like 4 birds with one stone
I came up with a totally new idea while watching this video. Instead of smart guns, there could be smart trigger locks. Place your finger on the detector on the side of the trigger lock, it unlatches, then falls out of the trigger guard and the gun is ready to shoot. No new guns need to be designed as one could buy a smart lock for any gun.
needs smarter people tell that to a 6 year old who are able to their hands on a gun.
I would like to point out how the vice representative has his finger on the trigger while admiring firearms, if you are going to talk about gun safety, maybe make sure you have someone who knows a little bit about firearm safety
What he knows or doesn’t know is irrelevant. His job is to be a vessel in which the interviewee can share information. He isn’t telling you anything.
That's really a perfect example for why smart guns are a great idea. It's simply a fact that everyone doesn't know how to safely handle a firearm, but a lot of people can get access to them through family and friends, and when you get a little too comfortable and curious, accidents happen.
@@doqtorisykero977 200,000,000 gun owners in america alone, and only about 500 accidental gun deaths each year. I would have to say a majority of us are responsible.
I would like to quote the amazing lock pick lawyer “if it opens with an internal magnet it can open with a strong enough external magnet”
The point is not that it could be hacked but that a kid cannot use it.
@@kingk2405 what about a kid with a magnet 😂😂😂😂😂
Cy Nozzy- Yep ! The same kid who would have hacked your credit card ! Everything is possible .
@@kingk2405 what about when I need to use it in a split second !!
@@drodriguez394 Do you live in a sort of a war zone always chased by armed guys ?
Tv host :gun safety is key “points gun at camera man”
Camera could have been on a tripod
7:23 says it all
Richard Fogarasy you must be fun at parties
and pulls the trigger
Literally never takes his finger off the trigger and even points the gun at his camera man and shoots him. Yeah, real expert here
He's obviously not presenting himself as an expert. This is a generic "guy learns about guns for the first time with the viewer" kinda thing.
But yeah take your finger off the trigger and they should have shut it down when he pulled the trigger while pointing at the camera man
Kilgore Trout booger hook off the trigger for sure. Not that hard. Should know that by now. That’s the main issue with these story’s. Rest of the deaths is a human problem. We suck at knowing our animal selfs and brains.
He's not a gun expert, he's a journalist you div
McFro95 still should know how to safely use a gun. That’s kinda the point of the ep. it’s not hard. Also is an re post from 2017. This isn’t ok to do as a journalist. Can’t run a smart gun piece from 17 and pretend like tech hasn’t evolved as tech does. Journalism fail all day. Either side of the argument.
You should teach your reporters about trigger finger discipline
This takes a millisecond. That's why your kids get shot in school, maybe teach them this rule or smth else, that would be beneficial in this case... why innocent people has to die becouse someones stupidity ?! They atleast are trying to make some improvement.
morareduard I mean the guns were unloaded so it really didn’t matter
@@llovemllfs7268 No matter what a gun should always be handled as if it were loaded
@@kubsimas That's why our kids get shot in school? Aren't they being shot because they are being deliberately fired at by the shooters?
And eye protection... not wearing safety glasses on the ATF range.
Why does the gun need to be “smart” the owner needs to be smart
Exactly.
Do you support regulation that ensures people can't buy guns unless they are "smart"?
Quoggle what would that be?
@@quoggle9348 we all support common sense.
Well said!! I was sitting here thinking the same thing! Guns are owner operated if the owner is irresponsible then you irresponsible results!
How tf we gonna let this guy talk about gun safety and he dosny even know the trigger rule
Thank you! Booger hook. Use it to go bang. Don’t when you don’t. Not hard.
Stop crying safety sally
fractal hahah suck less son
fractal easy policy. Suck less, hook off.
Seriously these law enforcement guys should stay away from guns until they learn trigger discipline.
7:28 why doesn’t the ATF official take this time to talk about trigger control?
He just kinda laughed and looked at him with the “nice one there dumbass” look.
because the atf is a joke thats why
Because the atf knows this guy was gonna look like a fool to every pro 2a, informed, educated, enthusiast everywhere lol
@@kevinmorris2959 lol yes "lets make ourselves look like idiots while trying to make this reporter look like an idiot." that seems to have worked out perfectly
You know something is wrong when you like the ATF agent better than the """Journalist"""
but hey... not everyone knows everything about guns, wich is why they hare dangerous (:
/Swede that dont have guns but would want them all..
@@jimmyandersson5135 Your'e right about guns being dangerous if the person using them doesn't know how to use it. But it doesn't change the fact that the "Journalist" pointed a real gun at someone AND pulled the trigger. Anyone with common sense wouldn't do that
I know this is crazy, but in case of an emergency where a gun could be helpful, I don't want to be the only one in the area to be able to use that firearm. I want my friends and family to be able to protect themselves in case I'm incapacitated.
that’s what i was thinking what if i have to pass it off to someone like a family member. no thanks i want my gun to be a dumb gun
you know that it can be programmed for yr entire family if needed
Sure. But still there are people who want and/or need smart guns. This video is not saying to ban conventional firearms.
@@geerenmo We all know what Democrat/liberals ultimate goals are. The current assault weapon ban legislation moving through the motions proves it. Disregarding SCOTUS rulings at that!
If someone takes you down do you want the perp to use your gun ON your family members?
"We've never owned guns"
But let me make laws for you
How about you do the four main gun safety rules when handling a firearm too?
1) Keep your finger of the trigger
2) Treat a firearm as if it is always loaded
3) keep the gun pointed in a safe direction at all times
4) know what your target is and what is beyond it
I own an air gun and regularly shoot in my garden, behind my target was a soft material to slow the pellets, and behind that was a piece of wood that would make the pellets ricochet into the ground if any pellets got past the soft material. When I'm reloading it I keep it on safe, when I go towards my target i break the barrel downwards so I'm sure the rifle can't fire the pellet forwards at all. Smart guns are just an extra safety and that's it.
Be a responsible parent! Don't leave your guns loaded, don't store guns with is ammunition if you know that your child could potentially get to your guns.
Im disappointed i had to scroll this far down the comments to see someone actually reasonable and constructive. Kudos to you, and i generally agree. I would not relinquish my 2nd amendment, and would staunchly oppose mandates for new gun technology, but i can't understand why so many are so strongly against even having these options. I love the last guy's bio-hacker technology, and i think if its something that you *want* you should be able to get.
@@forthexp8649 I'm not against it, but with guns, literally anything could fail you in the situation where you need a gun, the ammunition hang fires or doesn't fire at all, the gun has just enough fouling still in the mechanics to jam it. You aren't holding the weapon correctly, and the grip safety isn't released as a result. While it's nice to make sure I've got a safety, adding another safety on top of a manual safety and grip safety just adds so many more possibilities for failure. If you use a fingerprint for your phone, how many times has it told you that you haven't perfectly placed your finger the right way, or there's somehow too much moisture on your finger? I would guess that it happens at least once a day, that means we have to wait longer to use our guns, and that is critical in those specific situations where you need it immediately.
P.S. I feel like I might have completely misunderstood your argument, please just tell me if I have
@@forthexp8649 why are you opposed to innovation? If this technology is perfected to be as reliable as your standard fire arm then there is no reason for not having it. If we can stop people from killing others than we should. The second amendment is for your own defense. It is not just an excuse to have a weapon that can efficiently kill multiple people in seconds. Remember that the second amendment was written with muskets in mind. We need to get all semi automatic and full automatic guns out of civilian hands, because the truth is, you only need one bullet to take down an attacker.
@@sumvs5992 The problems with things such as fingerprints can be ironed out if we would let these companies do some god damn research without destroying their reputation.
The law they want to make just requires you to store it in a safe place. If you are a responsible gun owner this wouldn’t effect you.
The host is ignorant on guns, even completely misused one in an early clip, you always treat a gun as if it is loaded.
Instead he wanted to goof around with his camera man's life to be artsy, truly disgusting.
Luckysquirrel1256 Pretty sure that’s what happened with that poor lady’s son..
yeah and notice the cop or whoever was giving the tour barely flinched?
So Vice is now replaying an old Motherboard documentary...
Yes
Profit that's why
@@dialecticalveganegoist1721 They're the same company...
Yes, mention in the description that it was originally from Motherboard in 2017
Because VICE hates two things; guns and trump.
Imagine being in a gunfight and your guns battery dies
Do you live in a video game? You're worried about an incredibly unlikely scenario that 99.9999% of the time exists only in your imagination.
lol take off the tin foil hat.
Its a joke, go eat some more of your dad's smegma
Agreed, but also something ridiculous that exists is listening to your favorite song and your headphones battery dies 🤑
@@ericstollery1 do you even know the self defense statistics from the cdc or even the fbi
this has got to be a joke right. How is someone who almost killed his camera man going to advocate for a "smart gun" he should never touch a gun again because he broke almost every gun safety rule in place.
that's why there should be smart guns. Duh?
@@judahangert840 Lmao what, how is the gun going to know who and who not to shoot. Please shut up lol.
@@HyperBlueMetallic1LE that’s not the point of a smart gun
@@HyperBlueMetallic1LE if it has a cpu embedded the gun will automatically jam with a iR sensor and other contemporary technologies
You just explained the point for smart guns. It was not his gun therefore he couldn't have accidentally shot his cameraman.
Dude really needs a lesson in trigger discipline ... surprised nobody at the ATF set him straight
BramptonGora atf aren’t fun people. So they probably don’t know any better
The ATF are incompetent bureaucrats themselves, so it's not a shock
Pointing a weapon and then pulling the trigger... *BRILLIANT!*
Well thats how it works yes. You don’t point your gun before pulling the trigger???. Jk i know what you mean😂
I think he did it on purpose for their narrative and for dramatic effect and to pretend to show how easy it supposedly is to accidentally fire a gun.
I watch this knowing I’ve always had my loaded weapons around my now 8 year old child since birth and never has he ever been curious enough to try to pick one up. That’s probably been since birth he’s been taught about firearms, knows exactly what they can do, and has been taught to be safe with them. At 8 years old he has such a respect for the firearm that any time he even wants to touch his own .22 he comes to me so he knows that I know his intention.
Yeah but not every parent is responsible enough to educate their child
@@remyschroeder2052 true….since posting that comment he’s learned what a gun will do to living tissue. Got to see an animal draw it’s last breaths. So now he understands that too.
"I didn't think it was gonna do that"
You don't say
Shadow I’m thinking he did on purpose
@@user-xc1sx6hp8p how lol
I love how the ATF guy goes "eh... there ya have it" you can tell he just thinks that guys a jackass, which he is.
The ATF's vault = Life goals
Yes,
Winner!!! Laughed my ass off!!!
This guy needs to do a documentary on butt plugs
Greenkillr 😂😂
Lmao that’s what I was thinking the whole time lol!
butt plugs are an inside job
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'We never owned guns' - as said by everyone who ever wanted to pass a gun control law.
Also said by the crowds waiting for hours outside gun stores during covid 🤣
People aren't buying arisakas because they're reliable, they're buying them because they're ww2 relics
The exact opposite is true for mosins
@@lemmegetamuhfckinuhhh2023 nah it's because they were cheap
@Anonymous Panacea I collect vintage firearm's because I like the story and history associated with the gun I shoot them all, not all at the same time because I only have 2 arms and you need 2 to use 1 firearm. Regarding the smart gun thing, I don't really believe it will become viable and safe until battery technology gets better and "charging your gun" is not going to be something to worry about. Even then nobody that's ever owned a gun would willingly purchase a gun that has not been tested rigorously, purchase a gun from a company that doesn't have the legacy of other manufacturers, and furthermore trust their life to a gun that has a parameter to operate because seconds count when your life is in danger.
Well to be fair, not every one is buying every gun for self defense purposes. If you buy a gun for hunting or skeet shooting or plinking or just to have a cool looking gun or any other non-fighting reason, nothing bad happens if it isnt 100% reliable. Exactly as with the arisaka example (that was actually a really good one).
@Anonymous Panacea smartphones only last days if they're turned off, what you don't understand is it's not a waste to have multiple guns, the same way people collect stamps, baseball cards, Pokemon cards, cars , anything they like, I also do the same it just so happens I like guns. I don't know what you like but I do collect and in the United States of America it is a reflection of this countries greatness that you can do for the most part whatever you want as long as no one gets hurt.
Smart guns won't work because any kind of malfunction is an instant death sentence. If you're using your gun then you're in a life or death situation, the last thing you need is for the technology to malfunction in some form and result in you dying because of it. Even guns malfunction at a rate that's concerning to many people and result in deaths. How many times have you tried using the fingerprint scanner on your phone only for it to not recognize you? Now think you're in a situation where you need to use your firearm to defend yourself and your gun does the same thing, and now you're dead. This concept does more harm than good, I'm not saying more guns are th answer but I am saying smart guns would be a detrimental step in the wrong direction and would have serious consequences.
yeah, if you have wet hands the thing won't work
One good thing about being from the south, if I ever accidentally pointed a gun in the direction of my uncle while we were shooting, he'd slap me on the head. You learn gun safety pretty fast.
Ace2Trill probably the only good thing about being from the south. Besides, you shouldn’t need someone to slap you on your head to understand that you shouldn’t point it to someone else.
High gun ownership states have the highest death rate of kids killing their friends.
@@montcliffeekuban1335 the south has the highest rate of accidental gun deaths
3 problems with that young fellows gun 1)it can be disabled by an emp device 2) you can easily lose ur finger in a gun fight3)it needs to be charged
Also won't work if finger is dirty or greasy
isnt this supposed to prevent accidental deaths? i dont think anyone is gonna accidentally set of an EMP
Ha ha ha ha, 1) at what point that you are protecting your house from a random person and they use a emp on you.... 2) why would you suddenly loss your finger? 3) keeping it charged? Not exactly, if you know much about electronics it wouldn't use much power and can alert you when it is low.
You're whatiffing a lot. Could apply that to literally everything!
This could work. The government would have to incentivize this. Like permit owners of smart guns to carry them everywhere.
"Hi, I'm the media, and I know what's best for you. Wait, let me just point a Tommy Gun at the camera man and pull the trigger lol"
Liberals be like lol
Liberalism is a mental disorder
lmao it wasnt loaded, calm your tits. You really think they would keep a loaded gun in a warehouse with almost every singly type of gun in the world?
How many people got hurt saying I didn’t think it was loaded
Where I find this ironic is how the reporter starts to "show off" the gun and it fired, probably much like how that little boy died. Folks, keep your guns locked up and learn your gun safety and maybe we can avoid these tragic deaths.
We dont need smart guns we need smart people
Mic drop
too bad most the people with guns are inbred
Miles how often do interact with people who own guns?
@@supernovamimosa No no no you are confused with the middle east.
Easier to make the gun smarter.
I HAVE a "Smart" Safe that opens by fingerprint....
IT DON'T WORK HALF THE TIME.
Get a better one. Current gen readers are much better. That being said I dont think that's the way to go for guns.
I have an android smartphone and an iPhone that unlock with facial recognition or fingerprint authentication and they work pretty much all the time, I'd say the rate of failure with guns and current-gen phone security failing is worth considering. You can believe in the tech to keep your data safe but not to keep your kids safe? The solutions that independent researchers are trying to implement with smart guns are not very polished or high tech but it's stupid if someone says that the tech doesn't exist to make efficient smart guns without screwing with usability. It's like saying that phone security decreases the reliability of making a call in an emergency. How often has someone not been able to make a phone call in an emergency because their phone wouldn't unlock?
Do you not own a phone?
Step up from your Walmart Safe, itll save you on that problem...
Imagine posting a comment saying you're too cheap to buy a good safe.
I cried a little when the mother told her story Rest In Peace kid and stay strong momma, I don’t think the smart gun thing is really practical yet but as tech improves I could see some of this becoming more effective and fail safe and the result could potentially do some good so good on you guys, coming from a gun owner who is concerned about gun regulation , and does not want the government to go enforcing unconstitutional edict forcing people to use them.
The briefcase, the umbrella, and the pen are all smart guns😂
The reason a “smart gun” can be dangerous is it’s one more thing to fail, sometimes when you use the Touch ID on ur phone it doesn’t work especially if ur hand is wet and that few seconds lost can be the difference between life and death
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Jonah Proctor well you have to balance that risk with the risk of your child accidentally shooting someone while you are away.
@@montcliffeekuban1335 Well if your child is stupid to know that a firearm can kill someone and your too stupid to know not keep your firearm away from the child then yes you should own a dumb,i mean smart gun.
@@montcliffeekuban1335 so true he just never was a Child if your a little Boy or girl you want to be like dady and shoot with guns so one day you find out the password of the save and Point with the gun at somebody and shoot him or here right in the face so he probably dies
I will be using a magnetic locking system as it's simple 🖖
Imagine, someone breaks into your house and your gun doesn't recognize you...
Imagine, your gun used against you...
@@philipmendorensis8687 funny cuz that suggests the person is dumb for putting the gun somewhere the criminal can get to it before they do which means having a lock on it wouldnt matter cuz the person would still be dumb its almost like its not the weapons fault but the ppl using it but thats just a common sense observation giving agency to the person rather than a inanimate object.
jaffartheblade or you get overpowered
@@bookwalker3203 which wouldn't matter if you had a gun or sword or knife then the gun just gives you a even playing field cuz you can be weaker then them and still fend them off cuz a bullet doesn't care how strong or weak you are and that also suggests they close the distance before you pull the trigger which means they know you have a gun and most won't risk that and will try to run those who do charge still get hit and being wounded in a fight is always a disadvantage no matter how strong you are especially when it's a bullet wound no one's the flash and unless they are alrdy on top of you their chances are very low and even if they are on top of you it's now a grapple fight and the second you can get that muzzle on any part of their body you simply pull the trigger and I'd welcome you to try it tell me how the dirt tastes when you end up shot.
I can guarantee you more ppl shoot attackers with their gun then attackers shooting ppl with their gun.
@@jaffartheblade You do know that if someone what's something badly even if they get shot they will continue moving the only way you are going to stop them is if you Shoot them in a vital place so u can still get overpowerd.
Man I just wanna hug this women ... im sorry for your los and I can’t imagine how hard it must be to lose a child ... I hope you are well and I wish you and your family all the best ...much love ❤️
Smart guns now right?
"Um, like why are guns, like, so dangerous?!?"
Proceeds to wrap finger around every trigger.
The ATF guys are literally holding him so he doesn't do something retarded.
This idiot could blow his own head off if they weren't standing there babysitting.
@Natasha Minor AMEN!!! ✅💯💯✅ Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way! There's an old saying that I love because it's so true, it goes something like "Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create WEAK MEN. And WEAK men create HARD times....." and sadly it seems that the cycle always repeats. Unfortunately for us, we currently have A LOT OF WEAK MEN in our nation/world.....
How do we let this guy talk about gun safety when he removed his own airbags in the car 38:48 . ???????
my his airbags got stolen you dont know
Unlike the public health official he knows airbags are more lethal and that there has been no evidence provided to argue that they make a car safer unlike seat belts and improved crumple zones in cars.
He could have been in an accident at some point that caused the airbags to go off but not total the car, you just remove the airbag mechanism, just doesn't want to pay for another
Watch someone die from an airbag then maybe you would understand
@@davidrosenzweig1380 that's anti-vaxxer thought. It maybe LESS than .1% that an airbag WONT save you're life and WILL cause you harm.
8:21
And this is why I do not take anti gun opportunists seriously and why I think you're full of crap when you talk about "common sense gun laws".
Finland is also an gun culture. It always been top 10. In 2008 we had an infamous school shooting, which was is very easy to get an 9m. If you're an finnish citizen prove as "sane" you could get an 9m as low 16. After the school shooting, they raise the age...to 18.
Almost smokes the camera man
ATF Dude: Yes there you have it
8:22 just goes to show you don't need Smart guns you need Smart humans.
Guns aren't the problem humans using them are.
But those guns owners are reckless on all the facets of their lives. You cannot educate them as they are kids themselves.
I'm no gun nut, but I'm smart enough to realize the golden rule when it comes to guns: *ALWAYS ASSUME THE GUN IS LOADED!!!!!!*
When someone breaks into my house I don’t want to have to enter a pin to shoot my gun
Don't most people keep them in a safe? So it would actually be quicker 🤔
@@luckystartzzz alot dont though so it will make it longer
@@luckystartzzz most take it out and store it under the bed at night
Exactly on any firearm the most important over looked safety is between the ears
All hypothetical, the chances of someone breaking into your house and you getting ready to shoot a gun is very low
I’m a gun owner and I see the pros and cons of smart guns, but listen to that mother talk about her son had me in tears.
Emotional appeal, nothing more. Her dead son doesn't impact the rights of gun owners.
@@ricoswartz345 facts
That’s y she shoulda taught him about gun safety and safety in general…he would have known once his friend had a gun to just leave and go home and tell a parent
@@ricoswartz345 why did you have to say it like that. That’s just cold
@@steftrando Your feelings doesn't supercede our Rights.
I mean how many times has your phone not worked? Seriously not ok, especially under stress god forbid.
Dude really need to at least learn how to operate a fire arm, his finger off the trigger discipline is way off.
I still can’t get over how this guy almost smoked his cameraman😅😅
Time stamp? Lol
I’ve seen videos of gun TH-camrs at events like shot show for example that have fingers on triggers during those shows. (I don’t want to misspeak but I feel like I’ve seen Ian from forgotten weapons do this)
@@He_Grows 8:20
just put breathalyzers in all cars you will saves hundreds of thousands of lives
That can be bypassed by using a balloon you blew up before you started drinking and tied a knot to.
Or a fan attached to a tube. Or a rubens ballon (used for resuscitation). So no that's not a good idea.
Actually way fewer people die from accidents caused by DUIs than from guns. But I actually think that would make sense, too.
@@user-mz6ts4xn6i No it can't. Temperature sensor, literally just two resistors and a wire. Costs less than 2ct
@@komentierer actually if you remove suicide, 15,800 people died by a gun in 2018 and around 12,000 people died due to being under the influence..
@@user-mz6ts4xn6i I doubt it...the new machines are very fancy...but I'm not speaking from experience so you might be correct
"America is a gun culture" aannnnddd cue the spooky music lol
It is a gun culture. Spooky music was a cheat shot.
It is scary. The fact we think having more guns than people is a good idea. The fact that fanatics walk the streets packing two handguns and a rifle in their vehicle. To protect the people? No, to give themselves an edge. Join the military if you want to be a gun toting child.
Z Fragz I think there should be more gun control, but I don’t see anything wrong with a person having more guns than they could ever need. I mean, they aren’t doing anything bad with it. Perhaps my biggest problem with these people is that they’re supporting an industry that benefits from, and encourages, scaremongering. The NRA is an organization, I think, deserves blame for the partisan landscape we see today
@@phong208 Most of us do/did, that's why we advocate for guns so much. Also, regardless of military service, you have the right to self-defense regardless.
@@phong208 People who carry legal firearms are 'fanatics' for wanting to protect themselves?
To give themselves an edge? Over who? Criminals? To combating criminals and not being a statistic? Youre wildly stupid and this is why guns are never going away, because its morons like you that spearhead it and instead, yous get laughed at. Please sit. Just because you have freedom of speech doesnt mean you should use it.
8:22 "SAY 'LEARN TO CODE' ONE MORE TIME"
"Making guns safe"
Later: "Proceeds to put finger on the trigger 7:27
Blows my mind how not a single person especially the ATF took a second to teach this guy the number 1 rule. A rule that can prevent gun deaths.
What are you, some kind of fascist? The Second Amendment doesn't say you have to be safe with guns.
@@wfjhDUI yea I'm a fascist. Poor attempt buddy
They likely did off camera. This guy doesn’t seem too bright
Imagine getting stabbed to death because your smart gun can't recognize your fingerprints
Imagine your ammo had no primers... It is moronic to not consider something because of an imaginary scenario. They will only be brought to market if they work an extremely high percentage of the time.
@Santiago Colla That was my point, LoL. Glad to see my dumb analogy was decipherable to someone besides myself.
They didn't stop trying to make cars safer because they might have a dead battery once in awhile.
The police are perfect for a Smarter Gun.
Police should lead by example and be completely disarmed
@@ronniewilliams5347 Where I live the police have guns locked into a special glove compartment strong box. Only allowed out if the field leader or very specific incidents happens. Even if the latter would happen they would need to report the incident first and indirectly be ordered to arm up anyway... I would argue an unarmed police force in most Western areas would reduce the risk of people AND cops being shot on duty.
@@Lobos222 I agree good point we all want to reduce harm . But the way Bloomberg trying to do it the wrong approach
@@Lobos222 I encourage everyone I know to vote Republican trump 2020 he's our best chance at warding off this tyrant Bloomberg in the election. Whatever we can do peacefully as Republicans and Americans I'm all for... And in 2024 we can vote against the next democrat to make sure our country doesn't go communist like Bloomberg's plan (agenda 21)
Still...police are humans and aren't perfect.
You know the ATF gets it wrong when only one guy is wearing eye protection on the range
I’ll save you 45 minutes. Yes it is possible. Hardly anyone wants one though.
@G Soap The other issue at hand here is states that have laws on the books that say once a smart gun is commercially available on the market, then the only guns your can buy are smart guns in that state. This severely limits the already limited selection that is available.
realifethunder The only instance of that I could find is New Jersey and it looks like they rolled it back. Do you know of other states that have those laws?
@@hedwardd Tlorida doesn't have that rule, the only rules are basic stuff about full auto, no incendiary rounds or piercing rounds which suck because piercing rounds are cheaper for me than field rounds.
You have to admire the ability of Vice journalists not to react to what interviewees say.
Agreed, it shows professionalism
pointing a gun at the camera man and pulling the trigger tells me this is a manchild.
Time stamp please?
@@uioplkhj 8:21
“I wouldn’t allow a smart gun within 100 mile radius of this facility ever” #freedom 😂
Then let's it in the gun range
He did say "a" smart gun so he let in two!
Keith Hopkins I was pointing out the irony that 2A guys are “all about freedom” but won’t let them have a smart fun 🤷♂️
Keith Hopkins nah..... it was an “iGun” remember? lol
He's just scared its gonna effect his sells.
38:46 the smart gun guy removed the airbag of his car ^^
39:40 Not surprised about the failure: you put sensitive, finicky electronics into a firearm with exposure to dirt, oil, heat and extreme acceleration/deceleration from the recoil. I'd call that a Very Dumb Gun. It's the main reason why only very few gun owners will ever want to buy this.
It's the same issue with electronics in cars, and why adoption has been very slow, because more times than not you get added points of failure. Just see all the automobile recalls in recent history.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj And the fact that a basic Toyota Corolla costs 20K now. Modern regulations and consumer trends have priced younger people out of the new car market.
That’s like saying you would never want a computer at the time when computers took up whole rooms. This is new technology that still needs money and time. If it can be perfected think of all the lives that can be saved.
@@brremsilverte.9022 Exactly! I'd never buy a "smart" gun with today's technology. If the technology advances enough, some people will at least consider it.
The fact that people would rather make legislation to prevent less than 500 accidents as opposed to turning their attention to mental health and preventing 22,000 suicides is mind blowing.
Well suicide is the decision of the person while being killed by somebody you dont want that
I whole heartedly agree with the gun store owner. Nailed every point on spot!!
Pulling on the heartstrings much to push your agenda, you had the lady they’ll her story more than a few times
the smart-gun agenda....... This wasn't even really political but okay
So if somebody dies we should just see that as nothing more than a moral agenda, and disregard it as facts?
What about the way tobacco companies sold people lies and killed people with their products until the government stepped in?
Was that just pulling heartstrings to destabilize the tobacco industry?
What about the men and women who die for our countries and all their stories?
Was that pulling heartstrings to push American agenda?
What about all the jews that died in nazi Germany, or the slave trade and all the stories of families being ripped apart for money and breeding?
Was that all just pulling the heartstrings to push the agenda against racism?
Sometimes I think people just denounce tragedy because it reveals terrible things that are happening, and they don't even want to see the fact that people dying and life lost is a downside.
@@maxjones2546 facts and emotional pleas are different. Fact, her boy died from an accidental gun discharge. Emotional plea...her ten minute emotional soliloquy about how much she misses her son.
@@maxjones2546 What about the hundreds of thousands of people saved by guns?
Is emglush good yes
Death threats are never acceptable, no matter the person.
Brilliant statement.
I will kill ANYBODY who currently poses a threat to the life of myself or any innocent people around me in that moment, if I have to in order to stop them.
Ya Boi Dayron do you know what a death threat is?
@@DeadPig325
What a stupid comment.
You likely haven't met enough people
When I was 19, in a poor, urban area that was very close to there, I had to use a firearm in a home defense, during a home invasion. My gun was locked up and hidden. In the extra seconds it took me between hearing my door getting kicked in, and getting to my gun, unlocking, and loading it, my roommate could've gotten killed. I didn't pull the trigger, it took the cops 15 minutes to get there, while school was getting out, kids were all over the place, someone's trying to kidnap my roommate, and I'm telling 911 I think this guy's gonna force me to shoot him. Cops said if anything like hat happens again, shoot the second I have a clear shot.
Well true but we still need to make the whole environment saver instead of buying everyone a gun
Of course its the harder task but the better one
maybe people dont want a finger print identification system on a gun because just like me they too have put their finger on their phone only to have it say it doesnt recognize your fingerprint even though it recognized it 1000 times before that and nothing has changed imagine pulling out your weapon to defend you and your families life only for it to not recognize your finger print and not let you defend you and your families life like seriously imagine dying with your gun in your hand because it wouldnt shoot because for whatever reason it doesnt recognize your fingerprint
This is just a reupload motherboard did 2 years ago titled “who killed the smart gun?”
Such a dumb idea probably should have just let the video die
The fingerprint reader on my wife's Samsung has already stopped working after only 2 years.... you want to trust your life to technology like that???
You are missing the point. This is not a technology concerning random split-second situations; the concern is someone other than yourself firing the gun. If the fingerprint reader isn't working for you, then it isn't working for your kid who DOES know where you keep it and DOES know how to get their hands on it despite how locked up you may have it. And in what situation are you going to need it to protect your life anyway? In the time it should take you to define an actual lethal threat to yourself, it's already too late for you because you are already dead. That is... unless you are trigger happy and shoot first while never actually knowing how much of a threat you faced. Are you aware of how many people have accidentally shot their own family members in such a scenario? Which then begs the question, who was the actual threat? Why are you afraid of hypothetical scenarios you are likely never going to encounter. And if you do encounter them, you're likely going to react the wrong way, regardless. Can't we just drop the guns are for personal protection BS? People own guns because they like to shoot guns and it can be fun in specific sport or hunting scenarios. If you are using in a protection scenario, you can't really win unless you shoot first, and the chances of you doing that while also doing so against a "legitimate" threat are slim to none. If it is a legitimate threat, you won't have the chance to. You are not some soldier with your gun at the ready. And if you are not in uniform and are walking around with a gun ready, who then looks like a lethal threat?
@@benzero75 people defend themselves with firearms every single day just because that's not what you see in the news doesn't mean it does not happen.... Check out Active Self Protection's TH-cam channel bud stop being so misinformed...
You repeat coming against a legitimate threat are slim to none. So what about when it does happen and you or someone you love is raped or killed? It’s better to have the gun/self defense tool and not need it than need it and not have it. Also to add to this the founding fathers didn’t create the right to bear arms for strictly self defense or hunting. It’s about the preservation of our rights to be citizens and have liberty than subjects of tyranny. And when they said militia in the second amendment we the people are the militia it is every able bodied person.
@@dmw3086 Amen brother
Huge anti gun guy gets to shoot and see thousands of awesome firearms that most gun enthusiasts will never see or shoot.
I could never work for the ATF because I definitely would not be able to resist the rage to take some or lots of those guns for my collection.
I'll just sit here as an Australian who doesn't have to worry about being shot
I live in Scotland and I may be attacked by a haggis. But so far I've managed to stay alive for 37 years....
Im holding a ghost gun as i watch this lol
Tyson Briggs atta boy! I have, Milled metal.. on many.
Reported
Mike Jim lol it’s legal. Thank you. Lol
Mike Jim what are you gonna report me for commie
Tyson Briggs he’s joking my guy
Is it Possible to Build a Smarter Human? Don’t ask questions u don’t want the answer for
Yes you can.
It's called education, which is very poor in U.S.
@@Radicus Intelligence has nothing to do with education.
DUMMY
AI. There is your answer.
This dude claiming guns haven’t seen any innovation *while* walking through a varied library of unique and improved guns is mind boggling. This is what happens when you send someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
8:22 kills the cameraman he was never told the rules about handling a gun
You don’t need “smarter guns” you need smarter, more competent carriers
That will never happen. People are stupid and any attempt at mandating firearm education will be met with calls of tyranny. So either you keep the status quo or let people come up with solutions.
"lets take something that has to be 100% reliable like your life depends on it and add delicate computer chips, batteries and tiny moving parts that will face thousands of shocks and bumps. nothing could possibly go wrong here." I'd never ever trust my life to a smart gun.
Even if they could make one reliable, they will be defeated. by determined folks. and the hundreds of millions of guns out there right now certainly aren't going anywhere.
Thanks for posting this interesting and important film up. What an assortment of guns in the governments collection. Never seen the cigarette packet, umbrella or pencil guns before and Ernst Mauch's HK 416's is an astounding beast of an automatic, also where can I sign up for an implant like Amal Graafstra please? I won't need keys ever again.
Having said that, my grandfather shot himself climbing over a gate, with a ring and smart gun he'd have survived.
With 22,000 suicides and a mass shooting somewhere everyday in the US the time is right for a smart weapon, Michael the gun shop owner is old school, his thinking will never change.
It's quite telling that Smith & Wesson suffered a huge backlash from the NRA, they want guns to work, not, might work and anything that restricts their freedoms given in the second amendment.
A good comparison would be seatbelts in vehicles, once there were none, then they fitted for the front seats but were mainly looked upon as an accessory but because of the road crash statistics they changed the law, nowadays everybody has to wear one, even on buses and coaches and many thousands of lives are saved.
Let's face it, the people who go rogue with a gun and cause mass shootings are mostly psychologically unhinged lone males.