Looking at the comments here it seems people are more bothered about how many police it takes to get him to prison than they are about the crime he committed. Annoys the hell out of me. RIP Olivia
I'm more bothered about the system. Why does a convicted man need to be taken out of prison and taken to court for sentencing? Its cheaper and easier if they just call him within the prison and hold a video conference of the court taking place, like it was the case with the courts during covid and lockdown anyway. Otherwise its more costly, timely, and he has to be transported more times
@@Mateusz7821 I kind of agree with you but if you know Manchester the court is only 5 minute in a car from the prison if that. My thing is the prisoner should be made to stand up in front of the murder victims family and face the music. It’s the least he can do. Take it like a man. He thought he was a big hard man going around ready to shoot people with a gun after all
@@Mateusz7821 Yes he absolutely needs to go to court, he committed one of the most serious offences a person can commit in the UK. He needs to face an actual judge and face the family of the victims, such serious offences need to happen in person. This isn't a speed awareness course.
There are a lot of comments about the amount of resources used to keep him protected. I think it's more about protecting the prisoner van from being attacked in order to release him.
@@willsutton04 This guy was part of an organised crime group, he is not a petty drugs dealer, there would be a high risk that his connections could try to spring him, hence the heavy and coordinated police escort.
Plus its mostly security theatre to deter anyone from trying anything stupid, the authorities don't want any kind of armed attack or prison break and have the public and the transport officers being at risk.
@@Tuberuser187 exactly that’s probably why they all got out their vehicles to show force so that no one tries anything stupid otherwise they will be dealing with them boys 😂
They just doing their job, and do it professionally. My mate was a prison officer for 15 years. He does his duties well and professionally, even personally he hate the crimes which some criminals did.
it's truth ;) because the prison is B/C category in UK, it means most of inmates arrived after shoplifting, pickpocketing, street/pub fights, drug dealing, drug possession, driving under influence, etc. But I know from him that 15-20% of them will back and usually after exactly same kind of crime
They're obviously concerned about someone trying to kill Cashman- and if it happened, it'd most likely be a gangland rival. He was trying to kill a rival drug dealer, remember.
This guy committed one of the worse crimes in Liverpool in the last 50 years and was the most wanted man in the UK for a short time, so yes the level of security is justified here it's only a few ARVs escorting to and from court
It's more likely that they are making sure his associates don't try to break him out in transit. He didn't murder that girl randomly. He was trying to carry out an organised crime hit.
the american nuclear convoys and this convoy show systemic doctrine. i think they've learned the hard way from an enemy car sneaking into a too-big gap historically.
A lot of the commenters on here seem to have forgotten that whilst he was a child killing scumbag, yes - he was also a serious dealer, by his own admission, and as such would have had some very heavy gangland connections. That's why there's this level of armed policing and tactical driving.
Something to note, that even Royal escorts or other high profile escorts don't seem to get this. The car in front and behind the prisoner transport is incredibly close.
The escort is just as much to protect the inmate from people on the outside. If someone wants to have a go then this is as a good a chance as any. That recent prison van break in France - we don't even know if those were the inmate's associates trying to help him, or whether they were rivals who wanted to do him in. We genuinely don't know.
@@SpookyFox1000you talking about cars? If that’s the case we can’t buy British as there’s no cars of that range left that we build except Jaguar which are not very reliable from what I read. That’s why our police drive German or Swedish
Like the bulger trial was in Preston crown court this case was held out of town ( liverpool) to deter local angry people causing mayhem outside Liverpool Crown Court
I'm impressed. Its vital these criminals get to court in one piece to face justice and to allow the families and friends to see them, if they wish, facing up to their crimes and receiving the full weight of the law.
In the US when people are charged with heinous crimes, they receive a lot of police protection during transportation to prevent assassination. They seemed well-organized.
The armed guard is to prevent serious criminals from escaping, with the aid of their pal's, not to protect them. Regarding the number of Police, that actually is a small number should they come under fire from Automatic weapons or worse. They are doing a vital and dangerous job to protect us from these people, and anyone who has a problem with that, is likely of the same mindset as the person they are escorting.
Utter nonsense. Total overkill. Could have taken the prisoner in an unmarked car with one escort vehicle. I work in law enforcement and know bullshit when I see it.
@@luciussander8217I work in law enforcement. This is not overkill. It's better to be over prepared then under prepared. If someone wanted to get him out, 1 unmarked car would not be sufficient.
If you worked in law enforcement, you would know that a well organised transport would be kept between yourself, the driver, and the handler at the other end making the exchange. Too many people sticking fingers in pies makes a mess.
We have the same problem in the Netherlands, the high security jail is in Vught, the high security court in Amsterdam, that’s a 95 km drive. Therefore in 2024 there will be build a courtroom at the jail in Vught. Sorry for the child involved makes you sick to the stomach.
It ain't the street citizens who will have contact for about 2 minutes with him, it's the prison system with the convicts who'll have months and years to get their time with him.
No, they are protecting the public. Of course you could go to the expence of building special elevators from jails (gaols) to the courts but that would cost a whole lot more.
I don't get why you need to be taken to court after already being convicted. They can just decide the sentence and send a letter to you in prison or if they want to maintain integrity of both sides, they can just call him within the prison and have court session take place over a video conference call, like it was the case during covid
I don't know the full circumstances but I do know that by law everyone has a right to a fair trial in court no matter what they've committed. Another commenter said the case was too serious to be tried in Merseyside, so perhaps they'd attempted to give him a trial in Merseyside but deferred the case to Manchester, hence having to move him? Can only speculate.
@@MGSLurmey It would probably be one of the few cases a "Liverpool Jury" would actually convict. It is a well known thing in the legal world, if you want to get a client off have the case heard in liverpool.
The western legal system is by far and away the best but spending all those resources to keep someone safe who should have just been taken out back is really hard to see
Because we are not animals, we are not subject to our base emotions: however strong they are. The rule of law must be followed or its chaos and rule by the strong over the weak.
@@IncoG8 Civilised lol what till he's let out by the parole board. Our laws are pathetic our prisons old and crumbling and our police work for the state and not the public when they're not committing crimes themselves.
@@Mateusz7821you know the reason the armed police are there is because his rival gangsters might choose to show up and fire guns at the van trying to kill him but hitting another child, right? They’re there for the public’s protection, not his.
@@nodtothestrange1008 No the job of prison escort is to make sure the subject (prisoner) is kept inside the level of security is based off risks. Non-violent crimes no escort, violent crimes escort, possibly break out attempts from his buddies armed escort.
@@nodtothestrange1008Imagine a gang did turn up and open fire at the van, then the police returned fire...how many innocent would be caught in the Cross fire
Is this a common safety precaution when transporting convicts who comitted especially frowned upon crimes, or is this the result of concrete threats towards the prisoner?
Such a crying shame young olivia and many others weren't/arent afforded the same protection, shouldnt you boys be guarding the next bunch of potential mass murderers holed up in hotels at the expense of their potential victims, im sure there must be .ore than one kiddy killer amongst that lot. RIP OLIVIA AND ALL INNOCENT VICTIMS.❤
Do you want them to stick him in an Uber to court so he can jump out and escape? Think before you speak, he is linked to organised crime, and is probably at-risk of being sprung out.
@@MCuk4 if the immigration is illegal ie: boats full of young men in smart clothes military haircuts with conveniently lost documentation then illegal then it is a police matter, WHY DONT THEY POLITELY KNOCK AND WAIT UNTIL THEY HEAR THE REPLY ENTER INSTEAD OF CLIMBING IN THROUGH THE WINDOW WHISLT THE OCCUPONTS SLEEP? ITS AGGRAVATED BURGLARY ON A MASS SCALE. AND WHO KNOWS THEY ALL JUST MIGHT BE UBER DRIVERS.
@@MCuk4The police is directly responsible for enforcing this injustice. If I were a policeman and they told me to guard a child murderer like this, fully knowing that at the same time we do nothing to protect the children of our country, i would put down my weapon and quit.
When do the public transport child killers to court? Do the public need bull bars in case they get ambushed by armed men and have to ram their way out?? No I didn’t think so!!
The van has a nudge bar. Perfectly legal. Bull bars are also not illegal, but also not recommended on road going vehicles. www.gov.uk/government/publications/bull-bars#:~:text=It%20is%20not%20illegal%20for,injury%20to%20other%20road%20users.
A lot of the arv crews are ex-forces and done a number of years on response before being able to apply for firearms selection & training. So I'd say they've earned more right to toughness than sofasurfing typing into TH-cam.
Let's take a moment to appreciate how much calmer, professional and efficient the UK police are compared to the yanks. Who is this guy, is he the one that shot a girl while chasing and trying to kill someone else,, in Liverpool?
thomas cashman, yes he is technically not a child murderer, he had no intention of killing olivia, he was shooting at joseph nee who ran towards a door that had been opened by olivia's mother (as you do when you hear someone firing a gun on your street???) nee ran into the house as cashman opened fire, hitting nee, olivia's mother and olivia
@soggybadrongle I guess gunfire on the street is normal in Liverpool, so they do open their doors!! Check their 20 year old Ford Escorts are ok and shell suits are not being stolen off the washing line
I remember going down the A5 (IIRC one of the High Security/terrorist courts is in MK) one day not long after 7/7 IIRC, huge convoy of police vehicles with a prison van, something like 4 cars, 3 range rovers, half a dozen bikes and a copter. I'd spotted the bikes first as I was going the other way and saw them blocking a side road and layby. I'd guess probably close to 30 officers in total and at least half of that armed given the types of vehicles (the cars were of the type they used as combination ARV and traffic)..
If you think this is impressive you should have seen the daily convoy taking Dale Cregan to Preston and back. We were overtaken by it one afternoon and were at the head of a huge peloton of cars following the convoy towards Manchester on the M61 when a driver behind us was distracted by an unrelated Police incident on the hard shoulder, hit another car and in my mirror I saw a mass pileup happen with bits of car flying in all directions. Glad we missed that!
in my country whenever they escort a child molester/murderer or a rapist in general for some reason the prison van usually gets into an accident and the van flips over so the criminal takes his chance tries to escape by attacking the escorting officers but gets shot in the face instead
Isn't this a massive waste of taxpayer money? Heli and everything. How much you think this escapade costs? Then they complain they don't have enough budget.
Totally agree! A glorious VVIP antourage, beautuful isn't it, something to be proud of, we pay for all this so this shite could enjoy his well protected safe journey. Feel sick of it.
if people got to this guy, like they very might well want to, before he's tried, and faced prosecution, before he's had his day in court, like we all get, that is called injustice. It's to keep the unthinking mob and have already sentenced him without evidence that would probably get to him and kill him. Then what? Those vigilantes go to jail? And what about all the falsely accused that more vigilantes would take down before they got justice and a trial which the entirety of modern society is built on? Think of that? And if the public did that then all the criminals know they can easily do if for their mates before their mates are tried. Think of that? Any of that? These are all lessons learned from past mistakes, this is the cost of justice, it's not protecting a murderer, it's protecting the justice system from unthinking lump heads and sending a message to criminals and vigilantes whose self-righteous ire would make everything a million times worse if allow to be practiced.
@@colinhathaway9493 Exactly. Protecting the convict IS protecting the public. What if he has friends who want to free him, or a would-be vigilante thinks their judgement is more righteous than the law's? Procedures like this are created from countless failures and catastrophes in the past, in an effort not to repeat them. Let's not forget what this is for.
This guy committed one of the worse crimes in Liverpool in the last 50 years and was the most wanted man in the UK for a short time, so yes the level of security is justified here it's only a few ARVs escorting to and from court
This is why the police cannot patrol the streets and do normal policing because of the amount it costs for performing this load of gonads. Doesn't need to go to these lengths and costs.
You think? Have you any idea who this thug was? He led a very violent drug gang so they would be looking to spring him. He tried to shoot and kill another violent drug gang member (and failed but killed the child instead) so THEY will be after him. He killed a child so many others in Liverpool would be after topping him. This was entirely necessary and not 'gonads'... 🤦♂
These are not your normal everyday police .They are serious crime operations. Officers.They go to these lengths because of the seriousness of the offence.Firearms.The prisoner is Cat A.And classed as serious risk.
@@barbarahalkyard1901 Understood and greatly appreciate our police in all they do. However, why make a mountain out of a mole hill. High profile prisoners like this would be best taken to a makeshift courtroom in the prison grounds and receive the appropriate sentence (video link) for his crime. A situation is been made unnecessarily and it could also endanger innocent people if anything did happen by those trying to spring a trap. The idea is to minimize risk to all, and you do this by keeping him in one location at all times.
A child murderer in England, doesn't stand a chance in hell! In the US, he would get a slap on the hand and get out on bail just to repeat his crime! I can't see how anyone could ever take another persons life! Especially a child! They are already condemned to hell for an eternity!
When my dad ran escorts like this you'd be surprised at the amount of gang activity among the routes they keep off main areas to avoid mobs but that leads to well gang area's etc
Pardon the pun, but this seems over kill on the part of the police. Here he would be handcuffed to the back put in the back of a sheriff's vehicle and driven to court or might even ride the jail bus with other prisoners going to court on that same day. Of course, the bus driver is screened off from the prisoners and while the driver is an armed deputy there is another deputy literally riding shotgun.
should have been left to walk to the prison and if anyone did anything to him they wouldnt be prosecuted! cant believe if u do something so cruel u get protected so disgusting!
This is the first bit of fantastic Policing I've seen in this country for a long time. Not a chance this fool was escaping justice. Shame that they couldn't be utterly useless and fail to escort him properly, then maybe he might have failed to make it back to prison you know what I mean
@@martinc.720 No take it from someone who works prison escort the objective is NEVER to protect the public its to keep the man in the back of that van and then drive away letting the rear escort deal with the shooter or whatever
With operations like this, people are often held in different prisons, even police stations around the UK to throw people off. The convoys you see are often for show and have no prisoners in the vans. I have seen old builders vans, a BT van and Iceland home delivery van with a cage in the back and a black taxi - all used to carry prisoners covertly. They're often where they need to be a day or two before they need to be to avoid any attacks or breakout attempts. There was a rumour that a station in Liverpool had this type of holding cell underneath it and many buildings have "secret" rooms, so if people do get in, they will not get that far. All rumours by the way, but those that know will know what I am on about.
That was me in the van not Cashman he was still on the wing when this happened but we had a game of pool after our teas and laughed about how many officers were on duty for me rather than him.
There are many black market areas in the uk that gangs run with smuggled items which weirdly enough happen in the places the police are banned from (I wonder why)
This man did not set out to kill this child. She died as a consequence of drug gang fighting. Hope folks remember this when they buy a little something for the weekend. They too are complicit.
No the dude that pulled the trigger its all on him. Thats just a cop out blaming some one else. How about if the dude didn't sell drugs he wouldn't be in the shoot out.
At 0 point in time was a gun drawn, it’s very important to get your wording right here. Just because they were holding a rifle doesn’t mean it was drawn.
Looking at the comments here it seems people are more bothered about how many police it takes to get him to prison than they are about the crime he committed. Annoys the hell out of me. RIP Olivia
I'm more bothered about the system. Why does a convicted man need to be taken out of prison and taken to court for sentencing? Its cheaper and easier if they just call him within the prison and hold a video conference of the court taking place, like it was the case with the courts during covid and lockdown anyway. Otherwise its more costly, timely, and he has to be transported more times
@@Mateusz7821 I kind of agree with you but if you know Manchester the court is only 5 minute in a car from the prison if that. My thing is the prisoner should be made to stand up in front of the murder victims family and face the music. It’s the least he can do. Take it like a man. He thought he was a big hard man going around ready to shoot people with a gun after all
@@colinhathaway9493he isn't going to do that 🤷
@@Mateusz7821 Yes he absolutely needs to go to court, he committed one of the most serious offences a person can commit in the UK. He needs to face an actual judge and face the family of the victims, such serious offences need to happen in person.
This isn't a speed awareness course.
@@colinhathaway9493 I live in Manchester, been 3 prisons in space of 1yr sentence ... some criminals don't care an will laugh in your face .
There are a lot of comments about the amount of resources used to keep him protected.
I think it's more about protecting the prisoner van from being attacked in order to release him.
Nobody Will free a child murder
I don’t think anyone would try to release him I think it’s more to stop people trying to get to him as he killed a 9 year old
@@willsutton04 This guy was part of an organised crime group, he is not a petty drugs dealer, there would be a high risk that his connections could try to spring him, hence the heavy and coordinated police escort.
Plus its mostly security theatre to deter anyone from trying anything stupid, the authorities don't want any kind of armed attack or prison break and have the public and the transport officers being at risk.
@@Tuberuser187 exactly that’s probably why they all got out their vehicles to show force so that no one tries anything stupid otherwise they will be dealing with them boys 😂
They just doing their job, and do it professionally. My mate was a prison officer for 15 years. He does his duties well and professionally, even personally he hate the crimes which some criminals did.
Basicaly your friend spent more time in prison than most of inmates of that prison
it's truth ;) because the prison is B/C category in UK, it means most of inmates arrived after shoplifting, pickpocketing, street/pub fights, drug dealing, drug possession, driving under influence, etc. But I know from him that 15-20% of them will back and usually after exactly same kind of crime
@@cornell9955I tip my hat to them. I couldn't do that job.
They're obviously concerned about someone trying to kill Cashman- and if it happened, it'd most likely be a gangland rival. He was trying to kill a rival drug dealer, remember.
This guy committed one of the worse crimes in Liverpool in the last 50 years and was the most wanted man in the UK for a short time, so yes the level of security is justified here it's only a few ARVs escorting to and from court
It's more likely that they are making sure his associates don't try to break him out in transit. He didn't murder that girl randomly. He was trying to carry out an organised crime hit.
Some serious business there
Well captured from that angle. Shows the blockade and then the convoy.
Great driving skills in a tight convoy. 10/10
I hope they see your comment. I'm sure they'll be happy you rate them 10/10 it'll mean a lot to them
the american nuclear convoys and this convoy show systemic doctrine. i think they've learned the hard way from an enemy car sneaking into a too-big gap historically.
Wasting money on him and MANY other things - this country WILL GO BANKRUPT !
A lot of the commenters on here seem to have forgotten that whilst he was a child killing scumbag, yes - he was also a serious dealer, by his own admission, and as such would have had some very heavy gangland connections. That's why there's this level of armed policing and tactical driving.
Something to note, that even Royal escorts or other high profile escorts don't seem to get this. The car in front and behind the prisoner transport is incredibly close.
The escort is just as much to protect the inmate from people on the outside. If someone wants to have a go then this is as a good a chance as any.
That recent prison van break in France - we don't even know if those were the inmate's associates trying to help him, or whether they were rivals who wanted to do him in. We genuinely don't know.
How to get excellent police protection: Claim you are a high-level member of a syndicate
@@giraffe3718the difference is you don’t see the security the same for royals. It’s there just not seen
Throw away the key....
RIP Olivia Pratt Corbell
I didn't realise who it was, So sad.
Great video mate. These would have been going to Manchester Crown Court as the case was too serious to be tried in Merseyside. Rest in peace Olivia.
You’re right mate and people are going on about how much that would’ve cost the tax payer. It’s only down the road from the prison to the court.
What, Merseyside with the Jaguar factory ? ! Just take it laying down that the Government is buying German and Swedish ! The French buy French !
@@SpookyFox1000you talking about cars? If that’s the case we can’t buy British as there’s no cars of that range left that we build except Jaguar which are not very reliable from what I read. That’s why our police drive German or Swedish
Like the bulger trial was in Preston crown court this case was held out of town ( liverpool) to deter local angry people causing mayhem outside Liverpool Crown Court
@@colinhathaway9493they drive german because they like driving around in flashy cars
I'm impressed. Its vital these criminals get to court in one piece to face justice and to allow the families and friends to see them, if they wish, facing up to their crimes and receiving the full weight of the law.
True, if anything happened to them then the doors would be open for some bleeding heart lawyer to initiate a case for compensation🤨
It’s a shame the full weight of the law in Britain amounts to a feather in a lot of these cases. At one point we used to be nasty to the nasty people.
In the US when people are charged with heinous crimes, they receive a lot of police protection during transportation to prevent assassination. They seemed well-organized.
At least in the US the police actually take crimes seriously, they don't give 2 fucks here lazy pigs on the force in the uk
It's amazing how equipped garbage collection is in England.
The armed guard is to prevent serious criminals from escaping, with the aid of their pal's, not to protect them. Regarding the number of Police, that actually is a small number should they come under fire from Automatic weapons or worse. They are doing a vital and dangerous job to protect us from these people, and anyone who has a problem with that, is likely of the same mindset as the person they are escorting.
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Utter nonsense. Total overkill. Could have taken the prisoner in an unmarked car with one escort vehicle. I work in law enforcement and know bullshit when I see it.
Suuuure…. It’s so they don’t have time to protect little white girls in Rotherham
@@luciussander8217I work in law enforcement. This is not overkill. It's better to be over prepared then under prepared.
If someone wanted to get him out, 1 unmarked car would not be sufficient.
If you worked in law enforcement, you would know that a well organised transport would be kept between yourself, the driver, and the handler at the other end making the exchange. Too many people sticking fingers in pies makes a mess.
We have the same problem in the Netherlands, the high security jail is in Vught, the high security court in Amsterdam, that’s a 95 km drive. Therefore in 2024 there will be build a courtroom at the jail in Vught. Sorry for the child involved makes you sick to the stomach.
Considering how many third world migrants have invaded your country , you are going to need many more prisons and courts
It ain't the street citizens who will have contact for about 2 minutes with him, it's the prison system with the convicts who'll have months and years to get their time with him.
I wouldn't be trying the handle of the only car parked outside the place I've just pulled up to with 10-16 of my armed buddies...
Now that’s a proper Cat A escort. Impressive.
RIP Olivia 💔💔
They are protecting the prisoner not the public
Well, they are protecting him to prevent him from escaping…
No, they are protecting the public. Of course you could go to the expence of building special elevators from jails (gaols) to the courts but that would cost a whole lot more.
I don't get why you need to be taken to court after already being convicted. They can just decide the sentence and send a letter to you in prison or if they want to maintain integrity of both sides, they can just call him within the prison and have court session take place over a video conference call, like it was the case during covid
I don't know the full circumstances but I do know that by law everyone has a right to a fair trial in court no matter what they've committed. Another commenter said the case was too serious to be tried in Merseyside, so perhaps they'd attempted to give him a trial in Merseyside but deferred the case to Manchester, hence having to move him? Can only speculate.
Because the scumbag in question has the right to be in court.
@@MGSLurmey It would probably be one of the few cases a "Liverpool Jury" would actually convict. It is a well known thing in the legal world, if you want to get a client off have the case heard in liverpool.
The western legal system is by far and away the best but spending all those resources to keep someone safe who should have just been taken out back is really hard to see
Because we are not animals, we are not subject to our base emotions: however strong they are.
The rule of law must be followed or its chaos and rule by the strong over the weak.
@@Ralnon Western Europe is in chaos, and collapsing at the very moment.
@@Ralnon
In principle…
Feel free to move to the Middle East, or Africa and live with sharia, if you are not satisfied, with how civilized laws work.
@@IncoG8 Civilised lol what till he's let out by the parole board. Our laws are pathetic our prisons old and crumbling and our police work for the state and not the public when they're not committing crimes themselves.
Looks like the first scene in a line of duty series 😝
I agree I love that show...
@@TowerHarvey Series 7 is everything this world needs 🙏🏻
Is it for his protection or prevent a release attempt?
Probably to prevent an escape, due to the nature of the charges (of which he was later convicted).
His protection.
Both
The police always protect the criminals first, hence why they have pedophiles in the force....
Both.
These criminals are wasting the taxpayers money!
You mean the government is
@@Mateusz7821you know the reason the armed police are there is because his rival gangsters might choose to show up and fire guns at the van trying to kill him but hitting another child, right? They’re there for the public’s protection, not his.
Try to educate yourself before you leave comments you've seen elsewhere and are just regurgitating.
@@nodtothestrange1008 No the job of prison escort is to make sure the subject (prisoner) is kept inside the level of security is based off risks. Non-violent crimes no escort, violent crimes escort, possibly break out attempts from his buddies armed escort.
@@nodtothestrange1008Imagine a gang did turn up and open fire at the van, then the police returned fire...how many innocent would be caught in the Cross fire
Surprised that parked car wasn't moved before hand, potential risk?
How do you know who they escorting?
READ THE NOTES! They were escorting Thomas Cashman.
@@robingarvin-mackREAD HIS COMMENT! He was asking how does the video uploader know who was being escorted
They were going to Liverpool crown court on the day of Thomas Cashman sentencing
Is this a common safety precaution when transporting convicts who comitted especially frowned upon crimes, or is this the result of concrete threats towards the prisoner?
Definitely not standard, I suspect they believe there is a credible threat from within the gangland community he was a part of
Such a crying shame young olivia and many others weren't/arent afforded the same protection, shouldnt you boys be guarding the next bunch of potential mass murderers holed up in hotels at the expense of their potential victims, im sure there must be .ore than one kiddy killer amongst that lot. RIP OLIVIA AND ALL INNOCENT VICTIMS.❤
Do you want them to stick him in an Uber to court so he can jump out and escape? Think before you speak, he is linked to organised crime, and is probably at-risk of being sprung out.
immigration is a government issue not police
@@MCuk4 if the immigration is illegal ie: boats full of young men in smart clothes military haircuts with conveniently lost documentation then illegal then it is a police matter, WHY DONT THEY POLITELY KNOCK AND WAIT UNTIL THEY HEAR THE REPLY ENTER INSTEAD OF CLIMBING IN THROUGH THE WINDOW WHISLT THE OCCUPONTS SLEEP? ITS AGGRAVATED BURGLARY ON A MASS SCALE. AND WHO KNOWS THEY ALL JUST MIGHT BE UBER DRIVERS.
@@MCuk4The police is directly responsible for enforcing this injustice. If I were a policeman and they told me to guard a child murderer like this, fully knowing that at the same time we do nothing to protect the children of our country, i would put down my weapon and quit.
@@hahalol6772 Great now the escort detail is fucked and his gang has broke him out.
If you phoned the police to report a child being assaulted they'd send a liason officer a few days later, if that.
Because we vote for governments that don’t care about us
Awesome video!!
Love that the van has bull bars! Banned for the public but totally understandable to make an exception for this purpose!
Begging your pardon, good sir, what is a bull bar?
It’s a metal attachment to the front bumper. Banned due to pedestrian safety. You will have seen them before
Cheers. Merry Christ-mas.@@robw4633
When do the public transport child killers to court? Do the public need bull bars in case they get ambushed by armed men and have to ram their way out??
No I didn’t think so!!
The van has a nudge bar. Perfectly legal.
Bull bars are also not illegal, but also not recommended on road going vehicles. www.gov.uk/government/publications/bull-bars#:~:text=It%20is%20not%20illegal%20for,injury%20to%20other%20road%20users.
Are sirens needed?
Yes as they are crossing red lights and need priority
Pity the Police aren't as tough as they appear in this video. We live in a dreamworld.
Yeah right. Try getting past them and they’d soon put you on your ass!
kenstevens5065: take it you’re tougher than are you ? Baton vs machete - you’d show them how ah ?
Right 🙄
A lot of the arv crews are ex-forces and done a number of years on response before being able to apply for firearms selection & training. So I'd say they've earned more right to toughness than sofasurfing typing into TH-cam.
You sound like a total muppet what would you know 😂
Yeah the police coming directly from the training ground. Weak as hell
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Is there really any reason this cannot be done via a video link? save all that cost?
Im amused that somewhere in britain is a guy called colin khalid.
“For gods sake, at least look like you know what you’re doing” 😂
@@BunFight No.
@poiujnbvcxdswq ok explain the threat to vehicle behind and how that might work
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Great video mate
Let's take a moment to appreciate how much calmer, professional and efficient the UK police are compared to the yanks. Who is this guy, is he the one that shot a girl while chasing and trying to kill someone else,, in Liverpool?
thomas cashman, yes he is technically not a child murderer, he had no intention of killing olivia, he was shooting at joseph nee who ran towards a door that had been opened by olivia's mother (as you do when you hear someone firing a gun on your street???) nee ran into the house as cashman opened fire, hitting nee, olivia's mother and olivia
@soggybadrongle I guess gunfire on the street is normal in Liverpool, so they do open their doors!! Check their 20 year old Ford Escorts are ok and shell suits are not being stolen off the washing line
@@Mrs.Thatcher oh Dey do dough don't Dey dough?
Why was he going to court .? I thought the does not like the dock
It’s normally the family’s victim statement they don’t want to be in court for .
But why was he going to court@@glynjones5280
Trying to get his sentence reduced.
This was held in London (bbc news) and he did not attend in person @@Nickbaldeagle02
Not many police escorting, they use to be far more for some of the prisoner movements, sometimes which a helicopter following above.
I remember going down the A5 (IIRC one of the High Security/terrorist courts is in MK) one day not long after 7/7 IIRC, huge convoy of police vehicles with a prison van, something like 4 cars, 3 range rovers, half a dozen bikes and a copter. I'd spotted the bikes first as I was going the other way and saw them blocking a side road and layby. I'd guess probably close to 30 officers in total and at least half of that armed given the types of vehicles (the cars were of the type they used as combination ARV and traffic)..
Or was that Ronnie pickering giving evidence 🤔
Do you know who he is?
Who lol
😂😂 brilliant
Truthfully I don't believe he needs that much protection! I'd like to tell you he really deserves but it would get me banned from here!
I think it’s more to do with he’s a gang member facing the rest of his life in prison. These are there to stop an escape job.
If you think this is impressive you should have seen the daily convoy taking Dale Cregan to Preston and back. We were overtaken by it one afternoon and were at the head of a huge peloton of cars following the convoy towards Manchester on the M61 when a driver behind us was distracted by an unrelated Police incident on the hard shoulder, hit another car and in my mirror I saw a mass pileup happen with bits of car flying in all directions. Glad we missed that!
peloton?
The following distances are very close to avoid overtaking and the citizen ending up in the middle of the convoy.
Not really, it's for avoiding any raming by a car!
@@dolwolfianphotography Can you clarify?
looks like they know this tool is on borrowed time and want him convicted and stowed away.
in my country whenever they escort a child molester/murderer or a rapist in general for some reason the prison van usually gets into an accident and the van flips over so the criminal takes his chance tries to escape by attacking the escorting officers but gets shot in the face instead
hope the van was alright after that tragic event
Look at the cost of this. For a murderer. Unbelievable. R
Ask yourself is his life worth more than the life he took
Isn't this a massive waste of taxpayer money? Heli and everything. How much you think this escapade costs? Then they complain they don't have enough budget.
So true!
Totally agree! A glorious VVIP antourage, beautuful isn't it, something to be proud of, we pay for all this so this shite could enjoy his well protected safe journey. Feel sick of it.
Stupid comments!
if people got to this guy, like they very might well want to, before he's tried, and faced prosecution, before he's had his day in court, like we all get, that is called injustice. It's to keep the unthinking mob and have already sentenced him without evidence that would probably get to him and kill him. Then what? Those vigilantes go to jail? And what about all the falsely accused that more vigilantes would take down before they got justice and a trial which the entirety of modern society is built on? Think of that? And if the public did that then all the criminals know they can easily do if for their mates before their mates are tried. Think of that? Any of that? These are all lessons learned from past mistakes, this is the cost of justice, it's not protecting a murderer, it's protecting the justice system from unthinking lump heads and sending a message to criminals and vigilantes whose self-righteous ire would make everything a million times worse if allow to be practiced.
It could cost lives if he escaped. He was charged with murder, he could have done it again. Are you putting a price on the life of a child?
In Poland we call it just police.
Could be anyone in there, this happens weekly from the cat A unit in Manchester.
Its probably some one going out for a Hair cut
This is the site of this country when Bobbies are dressed like SAS commandos
Yet they drive stupid bright yellow and blue cars. God I hate how our police cars look
As an American, I wasn't expecting this to be considered "guns drawn"
It is for here we are not so handy over here with guns
*It's no, no guns were drawn in that video.*
*You can only draw a sidearm, not a long gun.*
*Obviously those brits don't know much about guns.*
And why would we? Guns Are Not only illegal here, they are not normally necessary. We don't live in the wild west.
What a complete waste of tax payers money, and a waste of police time.
I’ll bet if you had a burglar at your home and 10 coppers turned up that’d be ok though. What a dick.
Errr .... you DO know who this geezer was right?
@@1chish what?
Comment womble.. utter clown 🤡 and 🔔🔚
Clueless imbocele
Epic catch!
"(Showing)Mercy to the guilty....is cruelty to the innocent!".
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Why are the prisons full then!
So much protection for a muderer. Amazing
Not so much protection as making sure he gets to that court to get his just desserts.
@@colinhathaway9493 Exactly. Protecting the convict IS protecting the public. What if he has friends who want to free him, or a would-be vigilante thinks their judgement is more righteous than the law's? Procedures like this are created from countless failures and catastrophes in the past, in an effort not to repeat them. Let's not forget what this is for.
This guy committed one of the worse crimes in Liverpool in the last 50 years and was the most wanted man in the UK for a short time, so yes the level of security is justified here it's only a few ARVs escorting to and from court
Presumed innocent until proven guilty, so until the trial is over.
This is why the police cannot patrol the streets and do normal policing because of the amount it costs for performing this load of gonads. Doesn't need to go to these lengths and costs.
You think? Have you any idea who this thug was?
He led a very violent drug gang so they would be looking to spring him.
He tried to shoot and kill another violent drug gang member (and failed but killed the child instead) so THEY will be after him.
He killed a child so many others in Liverpool would be after topping him.
This was entirely necessary and not 'gonads'... 🤦♂
These are not your normal everyday police .They are serious crime operations. Officers.They go to these lengths because of the seriousness of the offence.Firearms.The prisoner is Cat A.And classed as serious risk.
@@barbarahalkyard1901 Understood and greatly appreciate our police in all they do. However, why make a mountain out of a mole hill. High profile prisoners like this would be best taken to a makeshift courtroom in the prison grounds and receive the appropriate sentence (video link) for his crime. A situation is been made unnecessarily and it could also endanger innocent people if anything did happen by those trying to spring a trap. The idea is to minimize risk to all, and you do this by keeping him in one location at all times.
@@BunFight everyone attends the court and he stays in the prison grounds and appears via live video, empty head.
Why are they taking him away in a normal minibus and not an armoured prison van?
It is armoured. You just can't see it.
I don't think he deserves this escort, lets not forget, he is a murderer....
It's not a matter of "deserving" anything. Educate yourself.
@@martinc.720 Don't be rude. I spend over 10 years in evil medical school. Ok ?
How did they dodge the photographers and TV cameras?
I assume he had been sentenced to the offence before you uploaded the video and gave it the title ?.
They look like my Sons when they were little playing Cops and Robbers ! RIP Olivia❤
part of the reason they're there is to prevent people from mobbing him en route
He’ll need more protection than than in prison 😊👍
A waste of space this lad, nothing more nothing less, RIP little Olivia.
A child murderer in England, doesn't stand a chance in hell! In the US, he would get a slap on the hand and get out on bail just to repeat his crime! I can't see how anyone could ever take another persons life! Especially a child! They are already condemned to hell for an eternity!
This video make me think about how the French people transported this mafia boss where the guards got shot at a toll station.
Colin Khalid knows how to advertise I’ll give him that 👍
Do child killers in UK get treated by inmates like child killers get treated by inmates in the US?
They get protected
How did you know this was happening?
I've never seen anything like that before! Why is the prisoner being SO well guarded? Are prisoners being attacked during convoys usually?
More a risk of him being sprung by his associates
When my dad ran escorts like this you'd be surprised at the amount of gang activity among the routes they keep off main areas to avoid mobs but that leads to well gang area's etc
All that money getting spent on keeping that child killer safe its wrong hopefully he gets real justice in jail
Pardon the pun, but this seems over kill on the part of the police. Here he would be handcuffed to the back put in the back of a sheriff's vehicle and driven to court or might even ride the jail bus with other prisoners going to court on that same day. Of course, the bus driver is screened off from the prisoners and while the driver is an armed deputy there is another deputy literally riding shotgun.
But this way,, the police get more money from their client.
Please explain. They have no clients. @@iamthestig1
It's not that he's going to escape, it's that someone would likely want to de-alive him for what he's done.
Exactly my thoughts if he was in the back of a jail van nobody would know who it is this just draws attention to him
Yes, this country is ridiculous and doomed
should have been left to walk to the prison and if anyone did anything to him they wouldnt be prosecuted! cant believe if u do something so cruel u get protected so disgusting!
This is the first bit of fantastic Policing I've seen in this country for a long time. Not a chance this fool was escaping justice. Shame that they couldn't be utterly useless and fail to escort him properly, then maybe he might have failed to make it back to prison you know what I mean
Their rifles are being held in the "patrol carry" position. They are not "drawn".
What a waste of tax payer's money!
Impressive police work.
Guns drawn? More like guns worn. They aren’t much use in the car are they? ;)
Its crazy that the police will go to theese extreme lengths to protect a murderer of any kind.
It’s more they’re preventing a possible escape. That prison van could be ambushed by the suspects mates who are armed.
That such a waste of resources on life that isn’t worth protecting
Preventing an escape/breakout attempt by his gangster mates, not protecting him.
They are actually protecting the public. Educate yourself.
@@martinc.720 No take it from someone who works prison escort the objective is NEVER to protect the public its to keep the man in the back of that van and then drive away letting the rear escort deal with the shooter or whatever
Why did they allow him to carry guns?
They used an Amazon driver for the white van. Driving that close is just day to day for them.
With operations like this, people are often held in different prisons, even police stations around the UK to throw people off. The convoys you see are often for show and have no prisoners in the vans. I have seen old builders vans, a BT van and Iceland home delivery van with a cage in the back and a black taxi - all used to carry prisoners covertly. They're often where they need to be a day or two before they need to be to avoid any attacks or breakout attempts. There was a rumour that a station in Liverpool had this type of holding cell underneath it and many buildings have "secret" rooms, so if people do get in, they will not get that far.
All rumours by the way, but those that know will know what I am on about.
people dont kill people demons possessing people do
That was me in the van not Cashman he was still on the wing when this happened but we had a game of pool after our teas and laughed about how many officers were on duty for me rather than him.
Should' not be in prison, 60 years ago would have been a hanging offence.
This is a little bit over the top.
It’s not as if they can holster those rifles or sub machine guns is it. So they are not drawn that’s how they normally carry them.
How did he obtain the gun
To commit the crime?
Based on the amount of shootings in the UK there's plenty of guns about
What are you trying to say. There’s plenty of guns floating around. Probably easier than ever to get one
Probably got it from America. Walmart.
There are many black market areas in the uk that gangs run with smuggled items which weirdly enough happen in the places the police are banned from (I wonder why)
Do GMP stay there or do Merseyside Police bring him back?
This man did not set out to kill this child. She died as a consequence of drug gang fighting. Hope folks remember this when they buy a little something for the weekend. They too are complicit.
No the dude that pulled the trigger its all on him. Thats just a cop out blaming some one else. How about if the dude didn't sell drugs he wouldn't be in the shoot out.
@@brianforgie7724 People that buy the drugs fuel the gangs.
At 0 point in time was a gun drawn, it’s very important to get your wording right here. Just because they were holding a rifle doesn’t mean it was drawn.
Wow! Imagine seeing this on your dailt trip to work or the shops, Scary or what!
Strange the way they protect this person but don’t want to protect Prince Harry.
The Gruesome Twosome are so repulsive anyone near them would run away.
I thought it was police overkill at first … but after reading the comments as see all the police are there I understand
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The first Police car behind the Van says "POLICF"