I really hope TH-cam Nation realizes what's happening on this channel. This isn't just another mid-level tennis pro yakking away. This is one of the best coaches in tennis history is sharing amzingly helpful tips on technique, strategy, and drills. There's light years of difference in the quality of instruction between what's here and what's on other tennis instruction channels. This stuff is absolutely amazing. Not entirely sure why you're doing this, Patrick, but big thanks from all of us who are here to learn.
@@jaydenbtw3157 Sure, yeah, but the quality here goes way beyond simple promotion of his camp. PM is posting absolutely brilliance at least 3 times a week. To promote the camp, he could just half-ass some simple stuff a few times a month and no one would bat an eye. Instead we get this level of commitment and quality. Again, if you're reading this, many, many thanks, Patrick.
@@spookyroofus Yeah I agree with you this goes beyond just promotion of his academy. He is sharing very in-depth knowledge of his expertise. I'm shocked that he's posting full lessons on a certain stroke. It's almost like taking one yourself if you are good enough to apply it and teach yourself. Most instructors would charge for videos like this! Besides, he doesn't even need much promotion considering he and his academy are one of the most popular in the world already. If you wanted to argue money reasons, it could be to promote Dunlop since that brand is trying to compete with the Babolats, Wilsons, and Heads. They make excellent products so I'm not even mad at it.
You can tell felix is a really cerebral guy. Have never seen a student im these videos that was able to process and implement the amout of Information instantly
So true. I have coached all levels, grade school,high school,college,USTA teams and he has been the main factor for my positive experience. He is the best for improving anyone’s game, I still am learning from him and I will be 81 !,
You are the best coach. You understand the problem of the player. You talk with sufficient , encouraging , enlightening words. Mabuhay po kayo, Sir Pat M.
Still living the dream, Felix! Dr M is amazing, immediate tweaks especially if the player is intelligent like yourself. I love backhand slice, its such an easy, killer shot that can be the most accurate and which players actually find more difficult to return.
Many People dont trust me but Im every day Better following Patrick lessons 😮 unbelievable work and its for free... Just THANK YOU. You are best coach in the world.
All great slicers (Federer, murray, gasquet, lopez) have a top-down approach. It is enable them to control a rising heavy ball. This lesson seems old school, I like old school but explaining the differences would have been nice.
Aka they cut down on the ball for most slices and not as much out in front…if the incoming ball is coming with enough pace contacting the ball more out in front isn’t really going to help you. An experiment I like to use is balance all your weight in a neutral stance on your back foot…now look at your racquet angle, then proceed to shift weight so you are leaning forward on the front foot, notice the change in racquet angle.
@@zanido9073 It's a question of the follow through. If you look up videos on the U slice or J slice, those are a more modern approach rather than coaching to follow through by pushing the hand forward.
there is one coach on the tour that 95% of pro players would say has no clue. guess who it is... maybe he understands tactics but for technique I have a very hard time listen to any of this bs especially if the guy himself is not mastering one single shot himself. he was lucky to have williams. she was so good that noone could have messed her up. not even him. but in general this guy is just a joke
Sometimes I use this slice, otherwise I flip the racquet over and turn it into a groundstroke slice that spins all sideways on the bounce running away from the player because I like to come inside out on the ball. Felix hits the slices pretty high over the net,I don't hit the slice high and loopy. But there are times he does hits it like I do very low and flat over the netcord with those wow slices. I flip the racquet over to keep the ball a little longer on the racquet if I don't want to do just the normal slice but do a groundstroke slice.
when all the chat pros hating on the technique, have coached serena on slice, and have coached (not baby sitted) more than 12-year-old never to be tennis players, get back at us. The lesson is legit.
I love how he said that short angle from slice BH pulling opponent off court short in his own ad side is the worst possible position on the tennis court. I think when Rafa stands at back fence to return the opponent should drop shot serve him there often not just a time or two in the match. Because he's not the same player from net especially when he's slower now and has to run up from back fence to net.😮 If a good pro would work on that serve 1000s of times till the ball stayed unbelievably low with side spin it would be a killer shot. And against a huge guy like Isner it would be torturous.😢😮😂
big difference between the way felix can adapt and mimic exactly what patrick says, as compared to the kids on the rise on this channel. would think the kids would be more moldable and guys like felix would be the ones having a hard time adjusting, but other way around
I think it’s more of using angles of the wrist to manipulate the ball… no snapping actions but turning and coiling the wrist to do what ever you want with the ball
Every great slice has wrist !!!!!it’s called The radial to ulnar deviation !!! They start in that 90 degree angle in the preparation ( the Lshape ) when they go to contact it changes to about 125/135 degree depending on the height and distance to contact and then it keeps going to about a 145/160 degree after contact. PM has no idea what he’s talking about . Watch the beginning , all the slices are floating :):) because he’s going forward and tries to get under the ball ( old school ) hand goes in the direction :):) seriously:):) body goes in the direction on a cross overstep:):) seriously:):) watch every good slice in the video then you’ll see the hand DOESNT go in the direction but to the right , the body goes in the direction of the last step ( you make a line before the hit and after the hit and you’ll see that ( try to move your body in the cross line making an crossover step , means you have to make about a 270degree body turn :):) PM is great motivator and positive talk person which is sometimes enough to get a person back on track but I would NEVER send my kids to his school for technique!!!!
This slice technique isn't the best. He's teaching driving the racquet head too far out into the court. The racquet head accelerates more when it's traveling parallel to the baseline with baseline rallies‼Ala Federer ‼
Is it just me or is the guy wrong? You don't cut and then drive. It happens at the same time, nor is the dude stepping through on lots of the shots he is saying bravo on.
It's not just you. The advice on the slice is completely opposite professional technique. The U-shape Felix made before the lesson is more or less the professional technique. The straight drive through shape PM advises is the more traditional stroke. I would understand why you teach it to a beginner, as it is easier to execute, but Felix is aspiring to be an ATP level player. But it gets worse, like you have observed: if you cut first (in a vertical plane) and then drive through (in a horizontal plane) then the drive is not doing anything else than be an artificial change in direction, which will make the stroke unstable. The follow-through should always help achieving the actual stroke. If you cut first, then drive, the two ideas will conflict with each other. And finally, like you also have observed, despite the student not executing on the advice, PM will still say YES, or PARFAIT, or OLALA. It's a positive stimulus to tell the student he has actually learnt from the lesson. That's not a bad thing per se but it's rather fishy when 1) the technique being taught is old school 2) the confused student doesn't do what the teacher said.
What's the purpose of cut then drive it? The ball already left the racket, so why focusing on driving it...why not just focus on the preparation/keeping the racket on the edge/the contact and everything after that you get for free or just irrelevant...
@@bernardlanguillier7970 hmm I have started teaching this a little on the side and from my experience it is counter to learning. As long as you are teaching the correct thing, people learn extremely quickly versus arbitrarily breaking it up. I also don't reward bad shots. I reward a student explaining why their shot went awry and that seems to work well and motivates them to keep trying.
No comment, totally wrong. I really do not know how these tennis coaches can reach these levels with so poor knowledge. I'm very sorry but for this guy it's all a loss of money and time with this coach. Good luck
I really hope TH-cam Nation realizes what's happening on this channel. This isn't just another mid-level tennis pro yakking away. This is one of the best coaches in tennis history is sharing amzingly helpful tips on technique, strategy, and drills. There's light years of difference in the quality of instruction between what's here and what's on other tennis instruction channels. This stuff is absolutely amazing. Not entirely sure why you're doing this, Patrick, but big thanks from all of us who are here to learn.
Money, and exposure to his tennis camp so more people come to his camp. Don’t get me wrong im a huge fan of him but thats the answer your looking for
@@jaydenbtw3157 Sure, yeah, but the quality here goes way beyond simple promotion of his camp. PM is posting absolutely brilliance at least 3 times a week. To promote the camp, he could just half-ass some simple stuff a few times a month and no one would bat an eye. Instead we get this level of commitment and quality. Again, if you're reading this, many, many thanks, Patrick.
@@spookyroofus Yeah I agree with you this goes beyond just promotion of his academy. He is sharing very in-depth knowledge of his expertise. I'm shocked that he's posting full lessons on a certain stroke. It's almost like taking one yourself if you are good enough to apply it and teach yourself. Most instructors would charge for videos like this! Besides, he doesn't even need much promotion considering he and his academy are one of the most popular in the world already. If you wanted to argue money reasons, it could be to promote Dunlop since that brand is trying to compete with the Babolats, Wilsons, and Heads. They make excellent products so I'm not even mad at it.
Halep did not do too well
@@mowghlee that’s actually cap
As someone who enjoys both channels, this was a fun collab to watch!
Total agree
You can tell felix is a really cerebral guy. Have never seen a student im these videos that was able to process and implement the amout of Information instantly
Iconic this is gold. Serena’s coach for 10 years giving the best advice Ive seen on slicing on youtube
It’s actually wrong slice technique, you can see it on Felix face
This young man has beautiful,beautiful technique. Nice fine tuning.
So true. I have coached all levels, grade school,high school,college,USTA teams and he has been the main factor for my positive experience. He is the best for improving anyone’s game, I still am learning from him and I will be 81 !,
You are the best coach. You understand the problem of the player. You talk with sufficient , encouraging , enlightening words. Mabuhay po kayo, Sir Pat M.
What an amazing world we live in. I’m being taught right now by a world class coach. Ever thankful 🙏
Still living the dream, Felix! Dr M is amazing, immediate tweaks especially if the player is intelligent like yourself. I love backhand slice, its such an easy, killer shot that can be the most accurate and which players actually find more difficult to return.
Wow, this is a fantastic explanation of proper tennis form!
I love his teaching! Masterful and insightful!
He's the best I've ever seen anywhere!
This is true masterclass on slice backhand. I have exact same problem on the slice backhand and this is exactly the instruction that can fix that
Maybe after seeing your channel and discovering your greatness, I may even enter the men's senior ITA!
Many People dont trust me but Im every day Better following Patrick lessons 😮 unbelievable work and its for free... Just THANK YOU. You are best coach in the world.
i mean, i've watched basically the same video on both channels and i'm not upset at all.
YES! Always a pleasure to watch Felix
All great slicers (Federer, murray, gasquet, lopez) have a top-down approach. It is enable them to control a rising heavy ball.
This lesson seems old school, I like old school but explaining the differences would have been nice.
What is a top-down approach. Can you expound...
Aka they cut down on the ball for most slices and not as much out in front…if the incoming ball is coming with enough pace contacting the ball more out in front isn’t really going to help you. An experiment I like to use is balance all your weight in a neutral stance on your back foot…now look at your racquet angle, then proceed to shift weight so you are leaning forward on the front foot, notice the change in racquet angle.
@@ldeue4837 This entire vid he said to not take the ball in front, take it on the side, so i'm not sure what the criticism is
@@zanido9073 It's a question of the follow through. If you look up videos on the U slice or J slice, those are a more modern approach rather than coaching to follow through by pushing the hand forward.
Really remarkable lesson, especially for slice backhand lover like me. As always, I like to say.
177,749 views, 3.7k likes, 105 comments, 149k subscribers. Nice!!
My 2 favourite tennis TH-camrs 🥳
This is what the people need, Felix X Patty!!!
Eres muy grande Patrick, así es como se aprende de verdad. Saludos desde España.
What you need to do in tennis, analyzed in bio meckanics 🎾, great performance by coach Patrick 🎾
A great great great great great lesson... bravo bravo bravo.... thank you Patrick
This was so cool please do more!
amazing tips like always.Thank you very much
He ist teaching 60' Rod Laver slice. Not bad , just less control and high risk of floating.
Is Laver slice different than Rosewall slice? Rosewall slice was NOT floating. Very hard and flat.
there is one coach on the tour that 95% of pro players would say has no clue. guess who it is... maybe he understands tactics but for technique I have a very hard time listen to any of this bs especially if the guy himself is not mastering one single shot himself. he was lucky to have williams. she was so good that noone could have messed her up. not even him. but in general this guy is just a joke
Sometimes I use this slice, otherwise I flip the racquet over and turn it into a groundstroke slice that spins all sideways on the bounce running away from the player because I like to come inside out on the ball. Felix hits the slices pretty high over the net,I don't hit the slice high and loopy. But there are times he does hits it like I do very low and flat over the netcord with those wow slices. I flip the racquet over to keep the ball a little longer on the racquet if I don't want to do just the normal slice but do a groundstroke slice.
Pat your training is AWESOME simple yet very IMPRESSIVE
Thanks for the tips! Amazing!!!
Thank you sir, very good,I, learn very good tricks in this video thank you universe 🙏 Krishna 🙏
when all the chat pros hating on the technique, have coached serena on slice, and have coached (not baby sitted) more than 12-year-old never to be tennis players, get back at us. The lesson is legit.
El entrenador que te enseña a ser entrenador
The coach who teaches you how to be a coach
Amazing collab
@6:40 let the ball come to you naturally, just like in life
Hey , can you make videos on your endorsement deals and finances needed to travel for tournaments
Carlos Alcaraz' drop shots are very sharp. The distance from one-bound to two-bound is only 1 meter
Please do this for the one handed backhand. It is getting neglected. 😭
Thanks
Sometimes, I’ll hit a running away inside out slice lol. Even run around some forehands to do it lol
tanks mr
Great collab gents!
I love how he said that short angle from slice BH pulling opponent off court short in his own ad side is the worst possible position on the tennis court. I think when Rafa stands at back fence to return the opponent should drop shot serve him there often not just a time or two in the match. Because he's not the same player from net especially when he's slower now and has to run up from back fence to net.😮 If a good pro would work on that serve 1000s of times till the ball stayed unbelievably low with side spin it would be a killer shot. And against a huge guy like Isner it would be torturous.😢😮😂
bravo et merci
This slice technique is so reminiscent of Tsitsipas and Dimitrov!
big difference between the way felix can adapt and mimic exactly what patrick says, as compared to the kids on the rise on this channel. would think the kids would be more moldable and guys like felix would be the ones having a hard time adjusting, but other way around
It would be great if this were closed captioned.
Thank for your explanations. They are very good. Help me a lot.
Excellent video
Coach, do you have a video on the kick serve & slice serve?
Very 👍 good!
Ce serait super avec une traduction en français !
Yes
These videos make me want to go to the academy. 👏
Did you teach Stefanos how to slice?
Brought to you by Dunlop. . . .
Roger is the most fluid in that technique.
the only thing i hate about this video is the flag of isreal but i love how you can coach by using your hands to expalin every datails
What is the grip, please.?
What brands is the player shirt?
Isn't it WRONG to use WRIST on slices? Who's with me? That's slice 101: Don't use wrist, it messes the control of the shot.
PM instructs his students to use wrist on every tennis shots 😂
I think it’s more of using angles of the wrist to manipulate the ball… no snapping actions but turning and coiling the wrist to do what ever you want with the ball
Every great slice has wrist !!!!!it’s called The radial to ulnar deviation !!! They start in that 90 degree angle in the preparation ( the Lshape ) when they go to contact it changes to about 125/135 degree depending on the height and distance to contact and then it keeps going to about a 145/160 degree after contact. PM has no idea what he’s talking about . Watch the beginning , all the slices are floating :):) because he’s going forward and tries to get under the ball ( old school ) hand goes in the direction :):) seriously:):) body goes in the direction on a cross overstep:):) seriously:):) watch every good slice in the video then you’ll see the hand DOESNT go in the direction but to the right , the body goes in the direction of the last step ( you make a line before the hit and after the hit and you’ll see that ( try to move your body in the cross line making an crossover step , means you have to make about a 270degree body turn :):) PM is great motivator and positive talk person which is sometimes enough to get a person back on track but I would NEVER send my kids to his school for technique!!!!
1st ;)
Tennis lessons, it's only logical and physical movement of the ball isn't it :)
If i take on this, I now for certain I'll crash souls in the court. Mark my words!!!
Wait give me that boy’s numbers
only a singles court? what a waste of money
This slice technique isn't the best. He's teaching driving the racquet head too far out into the court. The racquet head accelerates more when it's traveling parallel to the baseline with baseline rallies‼Ala Federer ‼
He has that habit of slicing the ball sideways and in front huh?
Is it just me or is the guy wrong? You don't cut and then drive. It happens at the same time, nor is the dude stepping through on lots of the shots he is saying bravo on.
It's not just you. The advice on the slice is completely opposite professional technique. The U-shape Felix made before the lesson is more or less the professional technique. The straight drive through shape PM advises is the more traditional stroke. I would understand why you teach it to a beginner, as it is easier to execute, but Felix is aspiring to be an ATP level player.
But it gets worse, like you have observed: if you cut first (in a vertical plane) and then drive through (in a horizontal plane) then the drive is not doing anything else than be an artificial change in direction, which will make the stroke unstable. The follow-through should always help achieving the actual stroke. If you cut first, then drive, the two ideas will conflict with each other.
And finally, like you also have observed, despite the student not executing on the advice, PM will still say YES, or PARFAIT, or OLALA. It's a positive stimulus to tell the student he has actually learnt from the lesson. That's not a bad thing per se but it's rather fishy when 1) the technique being taught is old school 2) the confused student doesn't do what the teacher said.
I believe you end up doing it in one go, but my understanding is that decomposing into these 2 components helps understand the movement
What's the purpose of cut then drive it?
The ball already left the racket, so why focusing on driving it...why not just focus on the preparation/keeping the racket on the edge/the contact and everything after that you get for free or just irrelevant...
@@bernardlanguillier7970 hmm I have started teaching this a little on the side and from my experience it is counter to learning. As long as you are teaching the correct thing, people learn extremely quickly versus arbitrarily breaking it up. I also don't reward bad shots. I reward a student explaining why their shot went awry and that seems to work well and motivates them to keep trying.
@@knotwilg3596 good to know. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes watching these people get away with bad tips!
Very poor quality slices called perfect by Patrick 😮😅
No comment, totally wrong. I really do not know how these tennis coaches can reach these levels with so poor knowledge. I'm very sorry but for this guy it's all a loss of money and time with this coach. Good luck
@Patrick Mouratouglou 😁😉
thank you