My problem with JJ is that these player podcasters are way too nice about every player in the league because they never want to hurt the feelings of a “peer”… but now JJ wants to switch up and act like he’s always giving his honest analysis, that’s simply not true and he knows it deep down. I watched his pre-season analysis of all 30 NBA teams and he said nothing negative about ANY of them, that’s simply ignoring the fact that about half the teams get worse every season, how is that analysis? JJ getting on his high horse and acting like he’s a basketball purist now is annoying at least
@@johnnybuchananjr9344I don’t watch the JJ Reddick podcast, and most player podcasts, anymore for that reason… I think it’s fair to give them a chance. I gave it a chance and i stopped after it fell for the same ‘in-group bias’ problems. This is honestly the first I’ve heard of JJ since I watched that video. Seems like nothings changed though
When it comes to players it is "see no evil, speak no evil". When it comes to fans it is "let them eat cake". Players could take a leak on the court and JJ would give the fans the angry face for not applauding loud enough.
I remember on the podcast with Demar Derozan. He was going on and on about perfecting the art of shooting. And then Demar casually and unknowingly blasted him by saying he had to worry about a lot more facets of the game than just shooting 😂 Other than that, I'll only watch when Tim Legler is on.
JJ tends to have hot takes so i dont think Rob and Chris understood what he was saying, he was just making a point about the audience, not saying he doesn't have hot takes.
Except saying Bob Cousy played against lesser talent isn’t a hot take even a little bit. Like, if anyone thinks it is then they need to look at the NBA players today and name me the players from back then you’d rather have
@diazjordan54 it dont matter all you can play against is the best of you're time. The players of now have had 60 years of information and footage of basketball those players didn't have.
They're certainly not on fire on this one. They're literally going up against JJ Reddick for something that he literally is a part of and they are part of two. I mean they're always in their feelings. I just love how grown ass men are going after another grown ass man about being quote in their feelings
No, what he is arguing up against is literally the most laughable thing. He literally said that they are supposed to educate people on basketball. I couldn't stop laughing when he said that I'm like bruh. I'm not listening to these dudes for any type of education on basketball. Stephen A. Smith couldn't tell you how to run the pick and roll any better than I could and I know what a pick and roll is
@cheatingscoobydoo It's not his job. It's not Stephen A's job. It's not anybody's job to educate anyone on this stuff. They're not obligated to educate you on basketball. When did any of those shows become educational??! Outside of JJ redick on that show I guarantee you no one can tell you how to run a pick and roll or a Zone Defense
JJ tries act holier than thou. Like he’s Isaac Newton with these takes. The views and engagement he talked about, 50k vs millions literally answers his stupid ass question.
rivers is dead on black media is panicking to defend doc rivers now. Rivers is a terrible coach. Hasn’t gone past round 2 since 2010!!!! it’s 2024!! He’s had arguably the most talent in history to coach.
Yeah JJ acts like he’s the smartest dude in the room even when he interviews with players. Used to like him, but he’s annoying now imo. He also takes the players side basically every time so he can still get his interviews lol
Lol even if you want to break things down from an x and o perspective, its really not necessary because basketball is such a simple game. the nba game runs pick and rolls with guys spotting up for 3, drive and kick for 3, or they try to isolate one player and attack a matchup. Occasionally there is a screen off the ball Thats about it! Reddick is saying it like he is some genius that has to explain basketball to us.
@@KidCudisthegoat He does he acts like you have to be an nba player to understand whats happening in a basketball game and everyone else is a moron. Basketball is not that complicated! Even someone who has only played at the high school or college level doesnt need JJ reddick to explain every moment of the game to them
That’s the problem with the player analysts, they lack the ability to criticize their peers. That’s also what makes people like Shaq and Charles Barkley stand out because they are players that aren’t afraid to criticize players, although they may be overcritical at times
@@jmf5838and perk as much as I can’t stand him he’s a former player who actually holds players accountable. JJ be doing splits and jumping jacks on the players d***
He really doesn't make excuses for players. He provides context to situations then takes a logical approach to it. Something the media has never liked doing and it makes regular people like you think hes bad at his job.
Didn't he interview for the raptors head coaching job? Which in and of itself is hilarious. But regardless, yeah go do something like that and stop bitching on TV all the time.
@@rickyrobby8133that’s the. Crazy part you can’t have a better analyst than someone who played the game. Guys like rob parker made a career of terrible opinions and back and forth arguments.
@@rickyrobby8133Thank you! These people aren't analysts. There is no difference between rob parker and you corny asses sitting around the water cooler talking shi about the weekend's games.
Yeah, and he's the one who's talking about JJ redick and his feelings Bruh you've been in your feelings and has made a career of being in your feelings
The talent is being able to grasp the viewers attention it’s not about breaking it down and showing you step by step why what happened happened. If you wanted to see that then you would watch jj on his podcast. But that’s not what people watch first take for
@@AilmanF2P1) never played on a field and 2) thats 100% false. JJ will always be Target A for Duke haters the rest of their lives. You cant tell the history of college basketball without JJ reddick
@@AilmanF2Phe was a good player so that's actually a great compliment for him lol. I mean more ppl may know Shannon for his current work than his football legacy. Not bad fr
Chris and Rob need to watch the whole segment. JJ’s comments were taken out of context. He was defending KD and any other player’s right to not have to educate the public. And he also stated that Doc isn’t self-accountable. Not that no one else holds him accountable. Smh.
Thank you they didn’t even speak on that and Steven A was the 1 talking about the players needing to educate the fans not JJ, that’s what’s wrong with these shows they don’t give context.
Thank you, happy someone said it lol people stay reassuming into one snippet of a conversation and having whole takes on that when that’s not what he was talking about in the first place
This crazy that they don’t understand what he’s saying. He’s saying that people shouldn’t be saying that Kevin Durant should have to educate the players. Because Stephen a said he should. The point is if the analysts aren’t then it’s no one’s job
it's funny how these two got their start as journalists in print media, reporting on games with facts and statistics. sadly they've given in to tabloid fodder and gossip for clicks, meanwhile JJ is trying to bring it back to a time when you give an honest, levelheaded perspective on the actual sport which neither chris or rob do, especially rob.
Great point and my answer to that is that they sold their souls to the drama of sports media. They probably once were respected journalists in whatever paper that they were at or whatever position they were at before they went to television. But once you go to television you literally have to be a character. Rob Parker has been a character literally ever since I've seen him on television. So has Chris broussard. They've literally sold their souls for that check. I'm not mad at him but at some point it's going to be tiresome if it's not already
YES I felt the exact same way. These 2 journalists have completely given in to the current system. But remember....they BOTH came from espn and got jerked and saw a lot of their former coworkers get jerked and screwd over.
@@neilsimmons9582 even that was flawed on first take they didn’t watch kds podcast to know what he was saying . He literally said Stephen A would do exactly what he did
its cuz Chris is pretty smart and he understands that JJ is more for the above 100IQ demo, aka White people. The first caller basically even said he's too dumb for JJ. Chris secretly may not want to hear another retarded ex player saying "ah he a grown man" or "he gon face adversity" for the trillionth time. There should just be completely separate leagues and coverage, more suited to the brain power of the different demographics. Half of JJs interviews sound like he's talking to a make a wish kid.
Two people that I can sit and watch talking about basketball all day are Tim legler and jj reddick. These two give you straight breakdowns about the game. Is JJ biased at times ? Yes but at least he knows what he’s talking about unlike rob Parker.
exactly as someone not from the us i actually like hearing about the nuances about nba. and hes right us nba fans are easily the most casual fanbase in sports. its either you won the championship or your trash and choke. best nba show is jj and legler on his podcast
I love Tim don't you ever compare Tim to JJ....I like JJ but Tim understands that this is a business....Look I agree with you because I mostly love Breakdowns...but we both know that in society you have alot of casuals that dont really love the game like me and you...so the entertainment aspect of this will always override the breakdowns. lets face it people love the quick takes just like TH-cam shorts and tik tok. we live in a world where most people don't like the education part of thins. much respect to you I mean no malice in what I say.
SAS didn’t say that at all he said instead of KD complaining about not getting credit for how smart he is about basketball he should speak more on basketball & his smarts about it. KD won’t talk about basketball unless he’s clapping back at someone that’s all
JJ wasn’t volunteering criticism of the hot take ecosystem. He was responding to Stephen A.’s assertion that it’s the players’ responsibility to educate fans on the game. JJ’s point was A) That’s the media’s job and B) most fans aren’t interested in being educated.
I'm so glad this is a topic right now. I can't stand JJ Reddick and his "blue wall" type of player-take-garbage. His TV time needs to be drastically reduced.
I think they are missing JJ point. The players who love hoop don’t want to talk about if someone stinks like ESPN and TNT do. They want to talk the technical part but causal fans don’t want to hear that, they want hot takes and guess what players really don’t want to give hot takes
I mean, in fairness, this was JJ’s main point. He was answering Stephen A’s claims that the perceptions on KD would be more favorable if he explained the game and JJ responded by saying no one cares about the X’s and O’s…Rob and Chris were blinded by the soundbite
A hit dog will holler lmao. How about invite him onto your platform and keep that same energy instead of coming off as envious of a fellow sports analyst.
JJ’s statement about Doc was specific to how the Media never blames Doc. They always mention that championship he won over a decade ago as reference to why he’s a good/great coach.
The first quote from JJ was from Stephen A and JJ talking about KD’s Leadership on First Take. Chris and the old dude didn’t even do their due diligence by actually getting the real sound bite that was from Tuesday SMH…..
JJ Redick was responding to Stephen As point that KD should rather educate people on the game instead of replying to random tweets. JJ wasn’t saying “I have breakdown videos that don’t get views” He brought that up because he does educate the audience but no one cares… So why should KD do it. Broussard and Parker was so off this segment and it was kind of sad
That still proves Stephen A's point tho. KD keeps saying all he wants to do is ball, without any criticism, and yet he makes these constant hot takes, usually dumb takes too, like how he's a GOAT player or how Lebron was toxic and then he copied Lebron's movements, or talking about other players like Russ, Dray, etc, when he can't handle anything back. SAS was saying that KD should answer questions with knowledgeable takes like why he does certain things. JJ said, no KD should continue giving dumb takes cause that's what people like, while JJ himself says he doesn't like those hot takes. This dude makes no sense. Just like KD, he has no idea what he's doing.
@@sonikspeed19man shut up you missed the whole point it had nothing to do about criticism, KD doesn’t mind criticism he just doesn’t like the false narratives go find somewhere else to troll
JJ thinks he's protecting players obnoxious X player. Bob Cousy was right when JJ called him a plumber Bob Cousy clapped back and said at least I was a superstar when I played but you most definitely was the plumber of your era.
This is quite silly IMO. I don't think Rob listened to the whole conversation on First Take. JJ was saying that KD doesn't need to educate the audience about basketball - countering Stephen A's argument. His point being that players breaking down basketball is not something the larger audiences care about. He is actually implying that audiences care more about takes than analysis - in agreement with Rob hilariously!
It's so ironic that Rob Parker thinks he's criticizing JJ when he's actually agreeing. Stephen A is saying KD should educate fans about basketball. JJ is saying that's the media's job, and anyway, fans don't want to be educated about basketball. Rob Parker: Fans don't want to be educated about basketball, you're wrong JJ!!!! LMAO.
I would never let these fools try and educate me on basketball when they've all been paid by Klutch Sports to say LeBron is #1 or #2 all time when Kobe was better than him.
It amazes me how so many athletes dog the media during their careers then turn around and become the very thing they despised when they retire. Also a real educator would just educate the 54k that want that analysis and not worry about viewing numbers.
I think being able to talk play calling and play design is illuminating when talking about why or why not coaches should be fired, why or why not certain plays went right/wrong, etc. For the regular sports fan though that cant be everything. Theres plenty of channels that break down tape and do well but ESPN isnt a niche youtube channel
JJ is straight hustling. What JJ Reddick is really trying to do is put himself in position to become a future NBA head coach who doesn't have any head coaching experience or assistant coaching experience that's no different than Mark Jackson and Steve Kerr who both were hired by the Golden State Warriors who both had zero head coaching experience or assistant coaching experience. JJ Reddick is only using ESPN, being a NBA game announcer and a regular member of " First Take" (he could care less) so he can be shown and seen by NBA team owners as a smart basketball analyst so he can be hired by a NBA team as soon as possible, that's why he's always talking breakdown technical basketball and analytics instead of just the usual basketball fluff and bluster that everyone else does and when the NBA season ends, JJ will put himself in position to get interviewed for the many vacant head coaching positions that's going to be available.
JJ is a great basketball analyst, one of the best working today but when he's on other platforms, he always seems very annoyed by others takes. Maybe he should just stick to his own platform with guests who agree with him more.
You guys have completely missed the boat on this one... JJ made that statement in response to Stephen A criticising KD for not explaining his game and the way he goes about playing to the fans
Did Chris and Rob watch the entire segment? They took the debate between Stephen A and JJ totally out of context. The debate was over Kevin Durant as a leader and whether or not he has an obligation to speak out more and educate others on the game smh 🤦🏾♂️
4:42 JJ is whining because he is still chasing the drug called fame. Let’s be honest with the amount of money that JJ has made he can be on TH-cam breaking down film and being that super NBA nerd for the next 10years and it won’t hurt him financially. Their is an audience for that it’s just not that big but he won’t do that because he is still chasing fame and fast money.
What you’re saying is, people like to be dumb and as soon as they hear something smart they clock out. That is an actually sad statement. The giving in to that feeling, playing and saying things that “ the common people” understand and wanna hear.
They’re taking this clip out of context … Steven A said players like bron and KD should be sharing their basketball knowledge instead of criticizing the media… and JJ said people don’t wanna hear basketball knowledge
Rob is great at calling out these “new media personalities” Don’t nobody care about you breaking down the film Otis. This is entertainment. Not school.
You all got this all wrong.. SAS said that he wanted to see Durant & Lebron them break down the game more, and JJ was responding by saying thats not KD & Lebrons' job its the analyst job.. then SAS spent the narrative
JJ Reddick just now finding out that people care more about player comparisons and debates instead of why teams run drop coverage in the 3rd quarter against the Jazz? lmaooooooooo
You Brothers are the Best duo hands down no phony stuff I can watch enjoy learn and still enjoy the content without the extra unnecessary hot sauce Blessings been watch yall on tv for a while love it 🙏🏾
JJ is trash, i watch him sometimes when he is on first take and he literally sits there to disagree with literally everything and he thinks he is the smartest person on the show and there is nothing worse than that. I hate watching him unfortunately have to suffer through it if i really want to hear about that particular topic.
Has Doc rivers really been held accountable by the MEDIA? If so how does someone who hasnt won since the original big 3 won in boston keep getting these amazing jobs? JJ is telling people how can you be suprised about how this is going to go, when we have seen this for 15 years from doc rivers??? Wheres the hot take from the media except for pushback on him getting the coaching role at the all star game nobody cares about.
Its hot takes why people are no longer watching the so called anylasts, when they can tune into their Favorite youtuber who are real die hard fans of the game. You guys are Blockbuster, its almost time.
I am a retired journalist. By and large, journalists report what people say or what people do. People don't need to apologize for preferring hot takes over analytics. Most folks don't want to be coaches, but they do want to live. So we are interested in how other people are "living." We just might learn something -- or stick our chest out because we think we are doing it better than someone else.
Jj comes across as somebody who wants to be the smartest in the room ..I don’t think he wants to discuss ball, I think he just wants to want to show ppl how smart he is
I think it's fascinating that Rob Parker would literally say fans don't really want to know or understand the game they just want to be entertained so therefore fans shouldn't really have an opinion on the game if we're going to say they don't care about learning the game or understanding it then they shouldn't have an opinion
Man I’m definitely one of the fans that guys JJ or Dan Orlowsky and other guys try to reach with their in depth analysis of football or basketball. However if you’re on tv you gotta understand the target audience. If 80% of the audience wants hot takes and opinions while the other 20% want the deep breakdowns you gotta cater to the majority.
Doc being fired is not him having accountability. It’s just the result of his poor performance. I think JJ means Doc not having accountability is during interviews. Doc tends to blame his players when they were losing. I remember he was blaming Ben Simmons instead of guiding him.
Personally, I’m a fan of all the players doing podcasts and actually breaking down plays vs analysts give hot takes just for views. The Odd Couple is the only show in the hot take format I listen to. And for as much as I enjoy Shannon Sharpe, I can’t watch him on First Take because the show is a joke. I watch his TH-cam though because he’s hilarious.
Real hoopers and die hard basketball love hearing JJ and Tim Legler who played the game has great analysis while being able to provide context to some of the things they are saying. Meanwhile you get to say mumbo-jumbo daily!!! People watch this show to hear Brou's knowledge and insight
My problem with JJ is that these player podcasters are way too nice about every player in the league because they never want to hurt the feelings of a “peer”… but now JJ wants to switch up and act like he’s always giving his honest analysis, that’s simply not true and he knows it deep down. I watched his pre-season analysis of all 30 NBA teams and he said nothing negative about ANY of them, that’s simply ignoring the fact that about half the teams get worse every season, how is that analysis? JJ getting on his high horse and acting like he’s a basketball purist now is annoying at least
So why do you watcc them if you have a problem
@@johnnybuchananjr9344I don’t watch the JJ Reddick podcast, and most player podcasts, anymore for that reason… I think it’s fair to give them a chance. I gave it a chance and i stopped after it fell for the same ‘in-group bias’ problems. This is honestly the first I’ve heard of JJ since I watched that video. Seems like nothings changed though
When it comes to players it is "see no evil, speak no evil". When it comes to fans it is "let them eat cake". Players could take a leak on the court and JJ would give the fans the angry face for not applauding loud enough.
EXACTLY like how journalists will always support journalists.
I remember on the podcast with Demar Derozan. He was going on and on about perfecting the art of shooting.
And then Demar casually and unknowingly blasted him by saying he had to worry about a lot more facets of the game than just shooting 😂
Other than that, I'll only watch when Tim Legler is on.
“It’s called First Take, not First Diagram”-Rob Parker 😂😂🤣
It’s called Ultimate Fighting Championship so UFC fighters should complain about any of the rules or anything else that has to do with the sport
RP is funny 😂😂😂
I don't like Rob he reminds me of the dude that took my girl in highschool
@@FamuBol bro what 😂😂
@@FamuBol Can you share some diagrams of that event?
wasn't JJ the one that was taking shots at NBA legends left right and center just to get his podcast going?
JJ tends to have hot takes so i dont think Rob and Chris understood what he was saying, he was just making a point about the audience, not saying he doesn't have hot takes.
JJ an emotional yapper like the rest, doing shock jock takes
Except saying Bob Cousy played against lesser talent isn’t a hot take even a little bit. Like, if anyone thinks it is then they need to look at the NBA players today and name me the players from back then you’d rather have
@diazjordan54 it dont matter all you can play against is the best of you're time. The players of now have had 60 years of information and footage of basketball those players didn't have.
@@soda8736Along with upgraded overall conditions.
Chris and Rob have been on 🔥 these last few days
They're certainly not on fire on this one. They're literally going up against JJ Reddick for something that he literally is a part of and they are part of two. I mean they're always in their feelings. I just love how grown ass men are going after another grown ass man about being quote in their feelings
@@flyguy7825man stop bitching! You're on everyone's comment sounding like a 14 year old girl. Go and get some 🐈 for a change.....
JJ loves excuses for guys he likes like Embiid who can't get past round 2 to save his life.
No, what he is arguing up against is literally the most laughable thing. He literally said that they are supposed to educate people on basketball. I couldn't stop laughing when he said that I'm like bruh. I'm not listening to these dudes for any type of education on basketball. Stephen A. Smith couldn't tell you how to run the pick and roll any better than I could and I know what a pick and roll is
@cheatingscoobydooapparently they didn’t look at the clip from first take. Chris and Rob no better than to take a peice of this take and run with it
Better watch your mouth John
People know basketball and the schemes and rules that's why ratings are so low.
@cheatingscoobydoo It's not his job. It's not Stephen A's job. It's not anybody's job to educate anyone on this stuff. They're not obligated to educate you on basketball. When did any of those shows become educational??! Outside of JJ redick on that show I guarantee you no one can tell you how to run a pick and roll or a Zone Defense
JJ tries act holier than thou. Like he’s Isaac Newton with these takes. The views and engagement he talked about, 50k vs millions literally answers his stupid ass question.
rivers is dead on black media is panicking to defend doc rivers now. Rivers is a terrible coach. Hasn’t gone past round 2 since 2010!!!! it’s 2024!! He’s had arguably the most talent in history to coach.
Yeah JJ acts like he’s the smartest dude in the room even when he interviews with players. Used to like him, but he’s annoying now imo. He also takes the players side basically every time so he can still get his interviews lol
@@ROTennis You’ll hear no argument from me. Doc is the biggest choke artist.
But this comment was on his media hot takes thought.
Lol even if you want to break things down from an x and o perspective, its really not necessary because basketball is such a simple game. the nba game runs pick and rolls with guys spotting up for 3, drive and kick for 3, or they try to isolate one player and attack a matchup. Occasionally there is a screen off the ball Thats about it!
Reddick is saying it like he is some genius that has to explain basketball to us.
@@KidCudisthegoat He does he acts like you have to be an nba player to understand whats happening in a basketball game and everyone else is a moron. Basketball is not that complicated! Even someone who has only played at the high school or college level doesnt need JJ reddick to explain every moment of the game to them
Maybe if guys like Rob actually watched games, they wouldn't have to deal exclusively in hot takes.
You heard nothing in this video did you
Facts !!!
@@rrichmond14 Where was I wrong?
He’s been in the media 20+ years for a reason. So I’m pretty sure he knows what he’s doing
What does Rob have to do with hot takes from ESPN? No analysts watch every game, it's impossible.
JJ Reddick is honestly just as bad as every other “analyst” he makes excuse after excuse after excuse for players
That’s the problem with the player analysts, they lack the ability to criticize their peers. That’s also what makes people like Shaq and Charles Barkley stand out because they are players that aren’t afraid to criticize players, although they may be overcritical at times
He's def biased but hell nah he's def better than most other mainstream analysts lmao
@@jmf5838and perk as much as I can’t stand him he’s a former player who actually holds players accountable. JJ be doing splits and jumping jacks on the players d***
Facts. All of them have a particular bias and the bias is heavier these days then in the past.
He really doesn't make excuses for players. He provides context to situations then takes a logical approach to it. Something the media has never liked doing and it makes regular people like you think hes bad at his job.
JJ gets offended and very combative easily. He doesn’t know how to lighten up. He doesn’t belong on tv!
And God forbid don’t bring up a player before 1990
@@z-mane1438😂😂😂 you lying
@@poppahoggg2587 I’m sayin he hates players before 1990 lol
@@z-mane1438 sorry 😂man my typing screwed up 🤭 meant to type You AIN'T LYING, I hear ya tho
@@poppahoggg2587 u good bro lol
I lost it at “most people don’t wanna see how the sausages are made” 😂😂😂. Rob got the craziest and best sayings lmao
No, he just has some of the stupidest sayings ever
@@flyguy7825bro why r u always mad 😂😂
@@z-mane1438 So me saying that all of a sudden I'm mad?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@flyguy7825 naw u all in the comment section angry at everybody lol I was jus curious
@@z-mane1438I think you worried too much about my feelings dude lol and what I say in the comments sounds like you go something going on.
“He’s too analytical but I just don’t trust him” first caller was legendary
I actually agree with Rob. I can’t stand JJ as a analyst.. he’s a “know it all” he’s annoying to watch.
Whenever he's on, I do not watch it....I don't want to ruin my new TV by punching it😂🤣
As opposed to Rob who has not ever once admitted to being wrong?
Very annoying
@@LeeBo318😂😂😂😂
nice try Austin, stfu. He is talking facts but you guys are just mad cause BAD
JJ needs to decide whether he wants to be a Coach or Sports Analyst.
Didn't he interview for the raptors head coaching job? Which in and of itself is hilarious. But regardless, yeah go do something like that and stop bitching on TV all the time.
He’s one of the only actual basketball analysts out there. What you’re watching on ESPN is not “analysis” for the most part.
@@rickyrobby8133that’s the. Crazy part you can’t have a better analyst than someone who played the game. Guys like rob parker made a career of terrible opinions and back and forth arguments.
The jokes on Toronto! Hire him to do what! Fooook out ah here man.
@@rickyrobby8133Thank you! These people aren't analysts. There is no difference between rob parker and you corny asses sitting around the water cooler talking shi about the weekend's games.
So basically jj is right.. anyone can basically do these guys job all we gotta do is get on the mic and say wild ish
Basically lol and half of these mfs never played a sport
Exactly
@@Truth-timeOnly reason TV is different is because you need to have connections. It has nothing to do with being educated or qualified.
You got it!!! I want to hear from a players perspective not some guys just giving an opinion on something they never did!
Then you go do it if it's that easy buddy.....man you JJ and Draymond fans are something else man .😂😂
Rob Parker's whole career is based on no-talent clown takes so I guess I can see how JJ's comments ruffled his feathers.
At least he's had a long successful career 😂😂
Uh oh, someone’s angry at Rob
Yeah, and he's the one who's talking about JJ redick and his feelings Bruh you've been in your feelings and has made a career of being in your feelings
The talent is being able to grasp the viewers attention it’s not about breaking it down and showing you step by step why what happened happened. If you wanted to see that then you would watch jj on his podcast. But that’s not what people watch first take for
@@ZomegJ He would still be canceled if not for Skip Bayless begging FS1 to hire him in 2016
I love when Rob rips JJ. 😂
J J being emotional as always. Dude complaining about media after 20 years in it 🤦. Kid mindset
Ironically he will be remembered for his takes more than his play on the field, thats should speak volumes to him.
@@AilmanF2P1) never played on a field and 2) thats 100% false. JJ will always be Target A for Duke haters the rest of their lives. You cant tell the history of college basketball without JJ reddick
@@AilmanF2P”play on the field” that ignorant comment immediately should disqualify you from an opinion on JJ.
@@AilmanF2Phe was a good player so that's actually a great compliment for him lol. I mean more ppl may know Shannon for his current work than his football legacy. Not bad fr
@@AB-vb4sv Good thing a court is a field or that would make sense. The same thing as a rectangle is a square.
Chris and Rob need to watch the whole segment. JJ’s comments were taken out of context. He was defending KD and any other player’s right to not have to educate the public. And he also stated that Doc isn’t self-accountable. Not that no one else holds him accountable. Smh.
Does JJ not know it’s the entertainment business?
He’s like an actual wrestler complaining about the wwe lol
lol 💯
Exactly, and if hes that great about the game of basketball, why dont he try coaching and show how he can lead teams to championship.
@@LeroyBickerstaff-IV Bruh lol
JJ is just a puppet bad at being an analyst only got the job because his grandfather
This clip was from a completely different conversation lol , the topic discussed on first take was about Kevin Durants interview on boardroom
Thank you they didn’t even speak on that and Steven A was the 1 talking about the players needing to educate the fans not JJ, that’s what’s wrong with these shows they don’t give context.
Came to comment the exact same thing.
Facts the way they flipped this Narrative was crazy asf 🤦
Thank you, happy someone said it lol people stay reassuming into one snippet of a conversation and having whole takes on that when that’s not what he was talking about in the first place
If fans wanted to be educated they wouldn't be watching First Take.
It is just about an entertaining discussion and exchange of ideas. Nobody wants to be taught or watch basketball film on tactics.
@@pedrofior2562well we call that lazy journalism.
@@SaucyJellyTH-camGamingno we don’t, it is what it is
There is a difference between being educated and being entertained, First Take is the latter.
This crazy that they don’t understand what he’s saying. He’s saying that people shouldn’t be saying that Kevin Durant should have to educate the players. Because Stephen a said he should. The point is if the analysts aren’t then it’s no one’s job
Correct 😭
@@bradensprojects3408 yawn trolll
Rob is hella funny bruh😂
Eli Over Mahomes 😂😂 wow
it's funny how these two got their start as journalists in print media, reporting on games with facts and statistics. sadly they've given in to tabloid fodder and gossip for clicks, meanwhile JJ is trying to bring it back to a time when you give an honest, levelheaded perspective on the actual sport which neither chris or rob do, especially rob.
moreover rob is consistently bitter that athletes are entering his field at a rapid rate because that would mean he'll be out of a job eventually
Even in print, news had to be exciting to the consumers. So they’re point still holds
@@prince59524how does one make covering a game in print form entertaining exactly? you have to keep it unbiased and relatively straightforward...
Great point and my answer to that is that they sold their souls to the drama of sports media. They probably once were respected journalists in whatever paper that they were at or whatever position they were at before they went to television. But once you go to television you literally have to be a character. Rob Parker has been a character literally ever since I've seen him on television. So has Chris broussard. They've literally sold their souls for that check. I'm not mad at him but at some point it's going to be tiresome if it's not already
YES I felt the exact same way. These 2 journalists have completely given in to the current system. But remember....they BOTH came from espn and got jerked and saw a lot of their former coworkers get jerked and screwd over.
I don't think they understood JJ's point on First Take.. they listened to a snippet of a conversation
Nobody cares is their point
Yep, just commented on that. The whole topic was on how certain players choose to lead a team.
@@neilsimmons9582 even that was flawed on first take they didn’t watch kds podcast to know what he was saying . He literally said Stephen A would do exactly what he did
They got defensive because they know that's all they do on These shows because it's obvious ppl only care about someone to blame and someone to praise
No we listened
JJ is just unwatchable
I played organized basketball and I like to see some analysis behind it. Instead of just hot takes
Thinking basketball is a good channel for that
@@WatchingvideoslikeuAnd bball breakdown
Chris Brossuard tap dancing for the white boy! Salute to Rob Parker for calling JJ out!
You mean rob "cornball" brother?😂😂😂
@curtishancock432 I mean your mama...tell her make sure she have my money!
its cuz Chris is pretty smart and he understands that JJ is more for the above 100IQ demo, aka White people. The first caller basically even said he's too dumb for JJ. Chris secretly may not want to hear another retarded ex player saying "ah he a grown man" or "he gon face adversity" for the trillionth time. There should just be completely separate leagues and coverage, more suited to the brain power of the different demographics. Half of JJs interviews sound like he's talking to a make a wish kid.
@@curtishancock432 Aye man I still trip over that take to this day. 😂😂
@@davidwatson6525make sure you take your medication. 😅
Two people that I can sit and watch talking about basketball all day are Tim legler and jj reddick. These two give you straight breakdowns about the game. Is JJ biased at times ? Yes but at least he knows what he’s talking about unlike rob Parker.
exactly as someone not from the us i actually like hearing about the nuances about nba. and hes right us nba fans are easily the most casual fanbase in sports. its either you won the championship or your trash and choke. best nba show is jj and legler on his podcast
I love Tim don't you ever compare Tim to JJ....I like JJ but Tim understands that this is a business....Look I agree with you because I mostly love Breakdowns...but we both know that in society you have alot of casuals that dont really love the game like me and you...so the entertainment aspect of this will always override the breakdowns. lets face it people love the quick takes just like TH-cam shorts and tik tok. we live in a world where most people don't like the education part of thins. much respect to you I mean no malice in what I say.
at times? jj is biased ALL the time 😂
Tim is cool
Jj is condescending pretentious dork
JJ is a bum
JJ takes things too personal and protects his relationship with players, failing to criticize which is you know, his job. 😂😂
S.A Smith said the " it's up to the players to teach us(Kevin Durrant) so this was JJ's answer
That's typical Stephen A Smith behavior putting it on them so he can criticize them more
SAS didn’t say that at all he said instead of KD complaining about not getting credit for how smart he is about basketball he should speak more on basketball & his smarts about it. KD won’t talk about basketball unless he’s clapping back at someone that’s all
JJ wasn’t volunteering criticism of the hot take ecosystem. He was responding to Stephen A.’s assertion that it’s the players’ responsibility to educate fans on the game. JJ’s point was A) That’s the media’s job and B) most fans aren’t interested in being educated.
I'm so glad this is a topic right now. I can't stand JJ Reddick and his "blue wall" type of player-take-garbage. His TV time needs to be drastically reduced.
Yeah he acts like he was an NBA all star 😂😂
I think they are missing JJ point. The players who love hoop don’t want to talk about if someone stinks like ESPN and TNT do. They want to talk the technical part but causal fans don’t want to hear that, they want hot takes and guess what players really don’t want to give hot takes
The media loves sticking up for Doc Rivers.
I mean, in fairness, this was JJ’s main point. He was answering Stephen A’s claims that the perceptions on KD would be more favorable if he explained the game and JJ responded by saying no one cares about the X’s and O’s…Rob and Chris were blinded by the soundbite
A hit dog will holler lmao. How about invite him onto your platform and keep that same energy instead of coming off as envious of a fellow sports analyst.
You guys definitely didn't listen to whole segment. Jj was responding to Stephen A saying players should talk more basketball knowledge talk
Exactly.
For me, JJ is the best analyst around and at a distant second is Legs.
😂😂 delusional
@@ZomegJ I'm sure you're into Stephen A's jive talkin bullshit
@@jonathandurham6678 never listen to him think again plus I'm not black so don't hmu with that jive talk 🤡🤡
JJ’s statement about Doc was specific to how the Media never blames Doc. They always mention that championship he won over a decade ago as reference to why he’s a good/great coach.
JJ is hunting for views. He’s way too emotional.
The first quote from JJ was from
Stephen A and JJ talking about KD’s Leadership on First Take.
Chris and the old dude didn’t even do their due diligence by actually getting the real sound bite that was from Tuesday SMH…..
They rarely do
JJ Redick was responding to Stephen As point that KD should rather educate people on the game instead of replying to random tweets.
JJ wasn’t saying “I have breakdown videos that don’t get views”
He brought that up because he does educate the audience but no one cares… So why should KD do it.
Broussard and Parker was so off this segment and it was kind of sad
That still proves Stephen A's point tho. KD keeps saying all he wants to do is ball, without any criticism, and yet he makes these constant hot takes, usually dumb takes too, like how he's a GOAT player or how Lebron was toxic and then he copied Lebron's movements, or talking about other players like Russ, Dray, etc, when he can't handle anything back. SAS was saying that KD should answer questions with knowledgeable takes like why he does certain things. JJ said, no KD should continue giving dumb takes cause that's what people like, while JJ himself says he doesn't like those hot takes. This dude makes no sense. Just like KD, he has no idea what he's doing.
@@sonikspeed19man shut up you missed the whole point it had nothing to do about criticism, KD doesn’t mind criticism he just doesn’t like the false narratives go find somewhere else to troll
They definitely missed the whole boat they didn’t even play it from the beginning and give context on what the whole conversation was.
@@OgSweenyTBZ_YT Is this one of your burners KD? Stop crying kid. Nobody is scared of you. I know the truth hurts, but embrace the pain.
JJ is just playing a role, like Stephen A and the others
Stephen a kisses his butt every time JJ on the show
JJ is right. Why I stopped watching hot take shows years ago.
Held accountable and personal accountability are not the same thing
JJ thinks he's protecting players obnoxious X player. Bob Cousy was right when JJ called him a plumber Bob Cousy clapped back and said at least I was a superstar when I played but you most definitely was the plumber of your era.
This is quite silly IMO. I don't think Rob listened to the whole conversation on First Take. JJ was saying that KD doesn't need to educate the audience about basketball - countering Stephen A's argument. His point being that players breaking down basketball is not something the larger audiences care about. He is actually implying that audiences care more about takes than analysis - in agreement with Rob hilariously!
JJ criticizes traditional media in his podcast while being a traditional sports analyst, LMAO.
It's so ironic that Rob Parker thinks he's criticizing JJ when he's actually agreeing. Stephen A is saying KD should educate fans about basketball. JJ is saying that's the media's job, and anyway, fans don't want to be educated about basketball. Rob Parker: Fans don't want to be educated about basketball, you're wrong JJ!!!! LMAO.
I would never let these fools try and educate me on basketball when they've all been paid by Klutch Sports to say LeBron is #1 or #2 all time when Kobe was better than him.
Facts. All these guys have become Klutch guys even Gilbert Arenas
JJ might be too smart for First Take, like Max was. That's why First Things First is great. Brou and Nick are really sharp and Wiles is witty.
"He's too analytical and I don't trust him!" LOL
JJ is in the wrong lane. You’re in the fast lane driving slow, yet upset people are honking at you and passing you on the right…
This made no sense😂 how is he driving slow?
First things first, and the odd couple is the only sports podcast/show i need to watch
I love JJs analysis. I learn so much and notice and understand things when I watch games.
It amazes me how so many athletes dog the media during their careers then turn around and become the very thing they despised when they retire. Also a real educator would just educate the 54k that want that analysis and not worry about viewing numbers.
The ODD Couple is the BEST. Love listening to Rob and Chris!
I really wish there was a way to watch all those old shows some are on TH-cam but not all of them
Love y’all guys y’all definitely necessary! 💯
JJ is yet another example of why ppl who didn't go to duke HATE duke. This guy has convinced himself he's basketball Jesus.
I think being able to talk play calling and play design is illuminating when talking about why or why not coaches should be fired, why or why not certain plays went right/wrong, etc. For the regular sports fan though that cant be everything. Theres plenty of channels that break down tape and do well but ESPN isnt a niche youtube channel
I felt the same way as JJ when my job got rid of casual fridays.
JJ is straight hustling.
What JJ Reddick is really trying to do is put himself in position to become a future NBA head coach who doesn't have any head coaching experience or assistant coaching experience that's no different than Mark Jackson and Steve Kerr who both were hired by the Golden State Warriors who both had zero head coaching experience or assistant coaching experience.
JJ Reddick is only using ESPN, being a NBA game announcer and a
regular member of " First Take" (he could care less) so he can be shown and seen by NBA team owners as a smart basketball analyst so he can be hired by a NBA team as soon as possible, that's why he's always talking breakdown technical basketball and analytics instead of just the usual basketball fluff and bluster that everyone else does and when the NBA season ends, JJ will put himself in position to get interviewed for the many vacant head coaching positions that's going to be available.
I agree
JJ is a great basketball analyst, one of the best working today but when he's on other platforms, he always seems very annoyed by others takes. Maybe he should just stick to his own platform with guests who agree with him more.
You guys have completely missed the boat on this one... JJ made that statement in response to Stephen A criticising KD for not explaining his game and the way he goes about playing to the fans
They didn’t even play the whole clip and give context to the whole conversation
The fact that a Fox podcast is talking about JJ on another network proves the success having him on First Take is a success.
Did Chris and Rob watch the entire segment? They took the debate between Stephen A and JJ totally out of context. The debate was over Kevin Durant as a leader and whether or not he has an obligation to speak out more and educate others on the game smh 🤦🏾♂️
4:42 JJ is whining because he is still chasing the drug called fame. Let’s be honest with the amount of money that JJ has made he can be on TH-cam breaking down film and being that super NBA nerd for the next 10years and it won’t hurt him financially. Their is an audience for that it’s just not that big but he won’t do that because he is still chasing fame and fast money.
What you’re saying is, people like to be dumb and as soon as they hear something smart they clock out. That is an actually sad statement. The giving in to that feeling, playing and saying things that “ the common people” understand and wanna hear.
Is this on ?
They’re taking this clip out of context … Steven A said players like bron and KD should be sharing their basketball knowledge instead of criticizing the media… and JJ said people don’t wanna hear basketball knowledge
Rob is great at calling out these “new media personalities”
Don’t nobody care about you breaking down the film Otis.
This is entertainment. Not school.
Brou- "alright Rob JJ reddick in his FEEEEELINGS" 🤣
JJ Reddick made a critique and people are so dumb they can’t understand what he was saying.
You all got this all wrong.. SAS said that he wanted to see Durant & Lebron them break down the game more, and JJ was responding by saying thats not KD & Lebrons' job its the analyst job.. then SAS spent the narrative
JJs a tool. He's right but he just annoys me lol
JJ Reddick just now finding out that people care more about player comparisons and debates instead of why teams run drop coverage in the 3rd quarter against the Jazz? lmaooooooooo
That first caller got me dead 😂😂 like damn why you don’t trust em 💀
Because JJ is white , thats what I got from the first caller
Lol sounded like those "the mad rapper" skits from back in the day... "Yo tell em why you mad son!"
Because he’s white and too analytical apparently.
Probably because of how he don’t ever be wanting to criticize the players. It’s almost like he’s a mole lol
Eating sausage all day is wild
😂😂🤣
You Brothers are the Best duo hands down no phony stuff I can watch enjoy learn and still enjoy the content without the extra unnecessary hot sauce Blessings been watch yall on tv for a while love it 🙏🏾
Can y’all break down JJ’s comments on Doc and not all the unnecessary stuff. The media has been babying Doc for yearsssss.
Put jj and austin rivers on a panel together that would be money
I would love to see Rob on first things first!
JJ is trash, i watch him sometimes when he is on first take and he literally sits there to disagree with literally everything and he thinks he is the smartest person on the show and there is nothing worse than that. I hate watching him unfortunately have to suffer through it if i really want to hear about that particular topic.
Has Doc rivers really been held accountable by the MEDIA? If so how does someone who hasnt won since the original big 3 won in boston keep getting these amazing jobs?
JJ is telling people how can you be suprised about how this is going to go, when we have seen this for 15 years from doc rivers???
Wheres the hot take from the media except for pushback on him getting the coaching role at the all star game nobody cares about.
The fact that we’re arguing FOR mindless “analysis” INSTEAD of real analysis is a sign of the times. Shame on us
I actually do want to hear more breakdowns of the game. Real sports fans want that.
This is why JJ should just continue to call games on the sidelines. He is extremely knowledgeable. But media is different.
jj is trash, did you even hear how he trash great jerry west and larry bird because his love of his current peers
People want to hear break down of the game. We do not want to hear what Charles has to say about other stuff
JJ is by far the best sport analyst out there. His knowledge, objectivity, and authenticity are unmatched.
Its hot takes why people are no longer watching the so called anylasts, when they can tune into their Favorite youtuber who are real die hard fans of the game. You guys are Blockbuster, its almost time.
I am a retired journalist. By and large, journalists report what people say or what people do. People don't need to apologize for preferring hot takes over analytics. Most folks don't want to be coaches, but they do want to live. So we are interested in how other people are "living." We just might learn something -- or stick our chest out because we think we are doing it better than someone else.
@douglashairston7808 And that's why KD doesn't need to educate fans on basketball. That's JJ's point.
Jj comes across as somebody who wants to be the smartest in the room ..I don’t think he wants to discuss ball, I think he just wants to want to show ppl how smart he is
Given most of the other people who professionally talk about basketball, him and Legler are.
@@Musso8771 I don’t get that vibe from legler, I think legler is legitimately all about basketball talk, jj comes off as an attention seeker
@@z-mane1438exactly
@@z-mane1438false. Wild statement
I think it's fascinating that Rob Parker would literally say fans don't really want to know or understand the game they just want to be entertained so therefore fans shouldn't really have an opinion on the game if we're going to say they don't care about learning the game or understanding it then they shouldn't have an opinion
Man I’m definitely one of the fans that guys JJ or Dan Orlowsky and other guys try to reach with their in depth analysis of football or basketball. However if you’re on tv you gotta understand the target audience. If 80% of the audience wants hot takes and opinions while the other 20% want the deep breakdowns you gotta cater to the majority.
Doc being fired is not him having accountability. It’s just the result of his poor performance. I think JJ means Doc not having accountability is during interviews. Doc tends to blame his players when they were losing. I remember he was blaming Ben Simmons instead of guiding him.
Personally, I’m a fan of all the players doing podcasts and actually breaking down plays vs analysts give hot takes just for views. The Odd Couple is the only show in the hot take format I listen to. And for as much as I enjoy Shannon Sharpe, I can’t watch him on First Take because the show is a joke. I watch his TH-cam though because he’s hilarious.
This is one of your best segments in a long time.
Real hoopers and die hard basketball love hearing JJ and Tim Legler who played the game has great analysis while being able to provide context to some of the things they are saying. Meanwhile you get to say mumbo-jumbo daily!!! People watch this show to hear Brou's knowledge and insight
We like Tim Legler, not JJ. Down force that clown our direction.
Facts. Love JJ and Tim
Be quiet child
@@SaucyJellyTH-camGaming none found
what's that hose attached to Chris's window panel?