Great video DC. I love that vintage Abercrombie bed roll. Very cool gear. Your a true modern mountain man. I'm fascinated by the vast depth & understanding of your outdoor knowledge. We're sure glad to have you.
110 yr old bed roll and its still sorta usable, that's crazy ,high tech ultra modern stuff today won't last 10yrs even if its meticulously cared for! They made things way way better back then .🤯
I appreciate your respect for the past sir. I wholeheartedly agree with you when you mention the old timers knew what they were doing and had things pretty well figured out. Take care
For anyone on the fence about buying the pathfinder air mattress… get one, it is by far the greatest addition to my kit.. I can personally attest to its comfort and its durability. The r value is perfect for any thing east of the Mississippi…
If it’s good enough for Zahn it’s good enough for us! I admit I’ve carried a roll similarly with the rope but was a bit dense and never thought about splitting the ropes and using them as backpack straps. Always learn something on these videos, thanks!
My time in the NY national guard, living in the Adirondacks, created my bedroll. My poncho was the outermost layer, then my poncho liner and a wool blanket. I’d fill my poncho with leaves and armloads of pine needles and burrito myself with the blanket and poncho liner.
Interesting vid and seeing how older than me timers made it. Oil and tin cloth were key items. Glad we have progressed much farther along. I still like the old materials as they last but that Mondo King is the cat's meow when it comes to travel and even sleeping at home. I have Thermarests since they were first made in the early eighties that are still great. Keep off the ground with a barrier of some kind is critical then it doesn't take much to hold the body heat in and it has to breath to keep condensation down. Good production Happy New Year. Head south and don't freeze out above the river. From east KY USA all good.
I had to design my Hobo Bedroll to satisfy my needs. Took a 26x103 inch PVC backed canvas and folded over canvas at head & foot end to create large pockets then saddle stitch pockets 1 inch on both sides to hold pockets in place, then turn it inside out so PVC was on outside and stitching inside pockets, now this is my 24x53 ground sheet. Then I stick a 40 inch torso pad in pockets plus stuff my down blanket, SOL bivy bag, jacket food in one of the pockets, roll it up with a polyester tarp inside. Secure Bedroll with Bushcraft Zipties using 1100 Paracord then attach 2 inch strap to carry Bedroll.
You talked about a mark of a woodsman about how well they can sleep comfortably. That's a good measure. I also think about people who squared away in their gear how durable it is but also how that translates to weight saving. Philosophy and theory is very important. Giant topics!!!
Hi Dave, If the U.S. gov't is determined to throw away billions of dollars on studying all sorts of things, I think they should easily throw a billion dollars at researching and developing how to make sleep systems and bed rolls that are far, far warmer, smaller, and lighter weight than anything we have ever seen. The groundpads especially take up so much space.
I always loved the movie stand by me where are the four boys traveled with their bedrolls. None of them had backpacks and you can see the variance in the economic status of each family based on how and what was in the roll but I did always find it interesting that they all chose to carry their stuff that way.
8:33 in the film and TV production world we use 1/4 inch sash cord to do those exact weaves like that tumpline. I’m talking original sash cord that’s as much organic line as possible. A lot of what is sold today as sash cord is basically all synthetic and not very good. The stuff that we used often was either black or white and sold in 1/8”, 1/4”, 3/8” and 1/2”. But the two smallest diameters are what we used most. It was our throw away line. Kinda like how pathfinder uses tarred bank line. We used sash. Although the bank line does have stronger tensile ratings, it sometimes reacts badly against certain adhesives and all solvents. If you’re whipping a handle on something and there’s any type of petroleum base on the item sash won’t deconstruct like bank line is known to. If you use bank line up against Joe’s Sticky Stuff, butyl or double stick carpet tape, the tar starts melting over 3-6 months
Well it has my mind going !!!........... I've been trying to decide how to build my bedroll with a few old wool blankets and a fleece and I think you just solved it !!........ Great and to the point.....very informative video !!
Fort Knox 1974. Army BCT & AIT, our bedroll was a shelter half, a inflatable air mattress & our sleeping bag. For rain protection the waterproof bag was used and the sleeping bag carrier harness kept it all together. It was called a tankers roll back then, Fort Knox was at that time the home of Armer
I'm a hammock guy buy these PF Matt's, wool blankets.. but have a mss but I really am changing to cold camping on the ground in the winter and hammock I'm the summer... hmmm. Dang man... here we go again. I need the Matt, an underquilt, I could keep going.. but ya know! Great video!
Thanks for all the effort you go to research, experiment and explore ideas Dave. Something that draws you to a bedroll and have been wondering about some form of back pack straps or basket to carry, keen to see what you come up with…👍
Great and clear video. I miss info on the surface you sleep on. I mean the ground. That seems to be a challenge to me. Flat, sharp objects, wet, hill or valley, critters etc.
Cool to see you're still using your Badger Bed from Born Outdoor! I bought one after your initial review and it's been the best money I've spent! They aren't cheap, but as you note, they just work and its great waking up in the morning and telling people that I slept great! I ordered their new wool blanket which I can wait to use this winter. Another ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ video!
Thanks Dave! I had long forgotten about that bedroll backpack trick! The first time I saw that setup used was by a crunchy hippie at a music festival. He had a blanket, a pillow, and 2 cotton sheets. He twisted the sheets up and used them as pack straps pretty much the same way you used the lenght of rope. Solid reminder, and a great tip for the uninitiated!
Gum or gunn tar cloth? Im English and not heard of the description before, a mid giggle serch came up with multiple things. Could you explain what one is, please?
Dave please re make that first bedroll system with modern fabrics to make a outfitters bedroll? An integrated air mattress with reflective base and waxed canvas maybe?
I had an idea for you. If you make a baking stone for the PF M40. That would be so good. Maybe for the fry pan on that system. then it would be a rice cooker and good for other items.
Dear Dave, At the start of the video with all the gear laid out on the table we see the Svante Freden reflector oven. Years ago you carried these for a time at the store, my question will you be carrying them again. Thanks in advance
Hey Dave, have you done any videos on how to effectively portage gear over a greater distance without the use of a side by side or 4 wheeler? I bought a decent wagon, but I’m looking for something a bit better. Like you, I’m an amateur radio guy who likes taking my gear. I also like taking my drone and a few other things that aren’t all together very conventional. Throwing all that in a pack makes it too heavy and hiking out all that gear really sucks. I’m looking for a good hiking wagon or some sort of decent way of portaging gear that doesn’t work well in a pack. I’ve a decent sized dog who goes with me and I’ve even thought about seeing how well he’d do pulling a cart. Just wondering if you have any thoughts or maybe a video about the subject I missed.
Dave. I'm contemplating getting 1 of your inflatable pads. I have an inflatable Klymit insulated static V, rated to 4.4 R. It's pretty good . What would you say is the cold limit of your pad? Keep in mind I have a wool blanket and a swagman roll and an oilskin ground sheet. Pretty much the stuff you have shown. Gonna get 1 anyhow but I would love to hear your thoughts.
That bedroll looks like a pain in the ass to crawl into and use. I suspect it is why sleeping bags evolved. But I love watching these vids. No harm no foul indeed.
Dave... Your cat is the star of the show!
We did this at winter skills class two years ago and that’s when I decided that I really like bedroll camping. Thanks for the info brother!
My skillet arrived today! Thanks for all the strickers and extras.
I suddenly imagined some uses for my old drop cloths from my years of painting. Great inspiration @Dave 👍
Great video. I like to smooth it with a silk sheet. It's thin,smooth, and like the wool blankets stay warm when wet too.
Great video DC. I love that vintage Abercrombie bed roll. Very cool gear. Your a true modern mountain man. I'm fascinated by the vast depth & understanding of your outdoor knowledge. We're sure glad to have you.
110 yr old bed roll and its still sorta usable, that's crazy ,high tech ultra modern stuff today won't last 10yrs even if its meticulously cared for! They made things way way better back then .🤯
I appreciate your respect for the past sir. I wholeheartedly agree with you when you mention the old timers knew what they were doing and had things pretty well figured out. Take care
I really appreciate you Dave, thanks for everything you've done for the community.
Outstanding 👍best tutorial on bed rolls ive seen 👍 thank you for sharing 👍🇬🇧
For anyone on the fence about buying the pathfinder air mattress… get one, it is by far the greatest addition to my kit.. I can personally attest to its comfort and its durability. The r value is perfect for any thing east of the Mississippi…
If it’s good enough for Zahn it’s good enough for us! I admit I’ve carried a roll similarly with the rope but was a bit dense and never thought about splitting the ropes and using them as backpack straps. Always learn something on these videos, thanks!
My time in the NY national guard, living in the Adirondacks, created my bedroll. My poncho was the outermost layer, then my poncho liner and a wool blanket. I’d fill my poncho with leaves and armloads of pine needles and burrito myself with the blanket and poncho liner.
I am a simple man: I see a man taking himself and his video less seriously than being kind to his animals, I like 😊
That bedroll from 1900s is awesome, had no idea about that. The head cover is a great feature. Thanks for sharing dave
Interesting vid and seeing how older than me timers made it. Oil and tin cloth were key items. Glad we have progressed much farther along. I still like the old materials as they last but that Mondo King is the cat's meow when it comes to travel and even sleeping at home. I have Thermarests since they were first made in the early eighties that are still great. Keep off the ground with a barrier of some kind is critical then it doesn't take much to hold the body heat in and it has to breath to keep condensation down. Good production Happy New Year. Head south and don't freeze out above the river. From east KY USA all good.
I had to design my Hobo Bedroll to satisfy my needs. Took a 26x103 inch PVC backed canvas and folded over canvas at head & foot end to create large pockets then saddle stitch pockets 1 inch on both sides to hold pockets in place, then turn it inside out so PVC was on outside and stitching inside pockets, now this is my 24x53 ground sheet. Then I stick a 40 inch torso pad in pockets plus stuff my down blanket, SOL bivy bag, jacket food in one of the pockets, roll it up with a polyester tarp inside. Secure Bedroll with Bushcraft Zipties using 1100 Paracord then attach 2 inch strap to carry Bedroll.
Really enjoying these bedroll videos
I just got the log book. Looks good, thanks. I was waiting for the cat to jump up. Merry Christmas from Wisconsin
What an amazing, informative video Dave! Thanks so much.
This was most excellent good Sir.
You talked about a mark of a woodsman about how well they can sleep comfortably. That's a good measure. I also think about people who squared away in their gear how durable it is but also how that translates to weight saving. Philosophy and theory is very important. Giant topics!!!
Hi Dave, If the U.S. gov't is determined to throw away billions of dollars on studying all sorts of things, I think they should easily throw a billion dollars at researching and developing how to make sleep systems and bed rolls that are far, far warmer, smaller, and lighter weight than anything we have ever seen. The groundpads especially take up so much space.
I always loved the movie stand by me where are the four boys traveled with their bedrolls. None of them had backpacks and you can see the variance in the economic status of each family based on how and what was in the roll but I did always find it interesting that they all chose to carry their stuff that way.
Great review, that bedroll look like a great find.
very well done video sir ! you covered all the important points
8:33 in the film and TV production world we use 1/4 inch sash cord to do those exact weaves like that tumpline. I’m talking original sash cord that’s as much organic line as possible. A lot of what is sold today as sash cord is basically all synthetic and not very good. The stuff that we used often was either black or white and sold in 1/8”, 1/4”, 3/8” and 1/2”. But the two smallest diameters are what we used most. It was our throw away line. Kinda like how pathfinder uses tarred bank line. We used sash. Although the bank line does have stronger tensile ratings, it sometimes reacts badly against certain adhesives and all solvents. If you’re whipping a handle on something and there’s any type of petroleum base on the item sash won’t deconstruct like bank line is known to. If you use bank line up against Joe’s Sticky Stuff, butyl or double stick carpet tape, the tar starts melting over 3-6 months
Totally sold on that winter bedroll by the cat.
Excellent presentation. Kudos!!
Well it has my mind going !!!........... I've been trying to decide how to build my bedroll with a few old wool blankets and a fleece and I think you just solved it !!........ Great and to the point.....very informative video !!
Awesome video Dave, thanks for sharing.
Fort Knox 1974. Army BCT & AIT, our bedroll was a shelter half, a inflatable air mattress & our sleeping bag. For rain protection the waterproof bag was used and the sleeping bag carrier harness kept it all together. It was called a tankers roll back then, Fort Knox was at that time the home of Armer
Good stuff Dave! Looking forward to meeting you at Hangcon.
I'm a hammock guy buy these PF Matt's, wool blankets.. but have a mss but I really am changing to cold camping on the ground in the winter and hammock I'm the summer... hmmm. Dang man... here we go again. I need the Matt, an underquilt, I could keep going.. but ya know! Great video!
Dave is the king
Love the cat❤. Great info as always
Great video! Thank you for sharing.
Great information. I have the Pathfinder bed sleeve and the air mattress. I might just have to give this a try
GREAT video Dave! Thank you!👍
Timely, been in bedroll discussion with buddy's for several days
Awwww, Zon. what a great cat. you can also have and adventure cat and allow them to sleep with you. tons of warmth!
Great video dave .
Thanks for all the effort you go to research, experiment and explore ideas Dave. Something that draws you to a bedroll and have been wondering about some form of back pack straps or basket to carry, keen to see what you come up with…👍
Great and clear video. I miss info on the surface you sleep on. I mean the ground. That seems to be a challenge to me. Flat, sharp objects, wet, hill or valley, critters etc.
Hi Dave i am from Australia and i call all of them a swag i have a few different types of swags love the video
Cool to see you're still using your Badger Bed from Born Outdoor! I bought one after your initial review and it's been the best money I've spent! They aren't cheap, but as you note, they just work and its great waking up in the morning and telling people that I slept great! I ordered their new wool blanket which I can wait to use this winter. Another ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ video!
Cat aproved, im sold
Good video Thank you, I have been camping with a bedroll for over 30 years now, and the 1700-1800' s bedroll is not much different either.
Attic mylar is something i have been toying with. Under cot and under sleeping mats. No science here but seems to reflect heat well.
Great information. Very explicit on the ontions.
Excellent information, thanks for sharing.
Loving these videos!!!
That cat loves the hell out of you, Merry Xmas and thanks for the content
Excellent vid, cheers 👍👍
Great video
Cats are so awesome in TH-cam videos they like being around you recording!
Thanks Dave! I had long forgotten about that bedroll backpack trick!
The first time I saw that setup used was by a crunchy hippie at a music festival. He had a blanket, a pillow, and 2 cotton sheets. He twisted the sheets up and used them as pack straps pretty much the same way you used the lenght of rope.
Solid reminder, and a great tip for the uninitiated!
Earliest zipper on a sleeping bag was LL Bean in 1928. They were pretty much standard by 1935. But this does suggest yours is at least pre-1928
Thanks for the edification
I bought a waterproof sailcloth bedroll with wool sewn into the inside from savage industries i love it
Good stuff sir. I do preparedness seminars in Omaha. I've never seen your channel before but it looks good.
Thanks for the video
Bush kitty steals the show again Dave. Maybe you could use him as a foot warmer in the bedroll lol.
Some of those old quilts probably filled with Kapok natural filling wihich use to also fill life vests.
Gum or gunn tar cloth? Im English and not heard of the description before, a mid giggle serch came up with multiple things. Could you explain what one is, please?
Ha Ha...love the cat 🐈. Great video
A decent explainer 😸
The cowboys on cattle drives. Would use a mattress in their bedrolls. They were carried in the chuck wagon
I’ve covered this in past videos
Any way we can get info on where to get or make our own browse bag? It seems easy enough. Just figured I’d ask if you have any resources.
Have you come across the Czech army bedroll, you can stuff an inflatable mat in that as well.
GREAT video, Dave! Thank you!
Billy from Kansas.
Neat stuff !!!
Listening to your intro about bedrolls made me wonder, what the Roman army soldier used for a bedroll.
Dave please re make that first bedroll system with modern fabrics to make a outfitters bedroll? An integrated air mattress with reflective base and waxed canvas maybe?
Have a good time in Florida!
Backpacking has really gone full circle with some of these with down quilts taking the place of sleeping bags these days
Dave, ty
i dig that tool roll you have laid out, is it a carving set or something else?
As always, Zahn for the Oscar
with showing us how to properly lay in a bedroll. I hope I can meet both of y’all at a class someday!
Thanks Guys
Very interesting
Dave can you do a video on how you make charcoal char please?
Great American Video Freedom
I am going to watch this 5x times
Thanks Dave.
I think the cat is inside that bedroll..!!😂
Hey Dave, could I use an over quilt inside a bedroll system?
I had an idea for you. If you make a baking stone for the PF M40. That would be so good. Maybe for the fry pan on that system. then it would be a rice cooker and good for other items.
I live in Florida, where are you going to be in Florida? Hangcon?
Hang Con
Zan over here trying to advertise the bedroll for you.
Dear Dave, At the start of the video with all the gear laid out on the table we see the Svante Freden reflector oven. Years ago you carried these for a time at the store, my question will you be carrying them again. Thanks in advance
They are hard to get in any quantity I am working on one now from a BSA model
Would love to sew mine own 🫡
Hey Dave, have you done any videos on how to effectively portage gear over a greater distance without the use of a side by side or 4 wheeler? I bought a decent wagon, but I’m looking for something a bit better. Like you, I’m an amateur radio guy who likes taking my gear. I also like taking my drone and a few other things that aren’t all together very conventional. Throwing all that in a pack makes it too heavy and hiking out all that gear really sucks. I’m looking for a good hiking wagon or some sort of decent way of portaging gear that doesn’t work well in a pack. I’ve a decent sized dog who goes with me and I’ve even thought about seeing how well he’d do pulling a cart. Just wondering if you have any thoughts or maybe a video about the subject I missed.
Thank you, Dave! What hat do you have on?
The cat felt obliged to visually demonstrate what a bedroll is really for...
Dave. I'm contemplating getting 1 of your inflatable pads. I have an inflatable Klymit insulated static V, rated to 4.4 R. It's pretty good . What would you say is the cold limit of your pad? Keep in mind I have a wool blanket and a swagman roll and an oilskin ground sheet. Pretty much the stuff you have shown. Gonna get 1 anyhow but I would love to hear your thoughts.
I’ve only slept on it in the low 20’s so far
Is it an optimum sleep?
Hahahah! We get those dang stinkbugs out in Kentucky too!
Now that's how you carry it, glad to see you changed up.
I use old military pack straps, much lighter and faster.
But this works too
HATS DAve HATS, need a good hat. Love you, all the time.
That bedroll looks like a pain in the ass to crawl into and use. I suspect it is why sleeping bags evolved. But I love watching these vids. No harm no foul indeed.
Only up to 21:57 and, that is a pucker set up.