No Battery Solar Power System: Growatt SPF 3000TL LVM-ES

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  • @grim6980
    @grim6980 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is what I was looking for. Now I just have to buckle down and study to figure out what you were saying. A lot of that went over my head.

  • @104teamster
    @104teamster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let’s see: video published on April 13th, today it’s the 18; probably cant get one b/c it’s sold out after Will’s review.
    Key to getting rich fast: Have a huge stock of a product that Will is gonna give a positive review and you’ll sell all your stock. (LoL).
    All joking aside, it speaks volumes of your work. People trust you. Your videos are to the point, easy to understand and honest; with no fluff. I’m no electrician and you’ve helped me immensely on my own van build. Thank you, keep it up.

    • @jameshughes131
      @jameshughes131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      growatts are for sale not sold out, just got one yesterday

  • @happymack6605
    @happymack6605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you. I believe this Growatt is what I've been waiting for.

  • @rmendes2mendes915
    @rmendes2mendes915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If your getting enough voltage then voltage is not the problem, it’s amperage, you just don’t have enough amps to start the compressor. You said you needed 3000 watts to start the AC unit well at 120 volts you would have 25 amps. If the AC unit is running off line power it starts with a simple 15 amp circuit which would indicate it can start and run with only a 1800W power supply. So it doesn’t matter how many volts you have, you need at least 15 maybe 20 amps to start that thing.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just would prefer the voltage to be as high as possible. But yes indeed.

  • @system23
    @system23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great! I bought an 800 watt solar pump from RPS for our off grid permaculture property. The pump works so well I wondered if there was something like this I could install in the workshop that I could use on sunny days instead of spending a ton on batteries. I couldn’t find anything until I saw this. I’m in.

  • @cmquinn2000
    @cmquinn2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Run a solar array to pump water through a solar collector. Use that hot water to warm a building.

  • @supremeautomotive6749
    @supremeautomotive6749 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The solar trailer is great idea I have wanted to do that for a trailer to pull behind an RV so it would be like a mobile generator. Could put golf cart inside trailer as the battery bank. Make arms that slide out over the trailer for more solar

  • @miltonch76
    @miltonch76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think you're missing the big point here. The best application for that inverter is using it along with AC input in the SUB mode without batteries. That way, it uses the most out of PV plus AC input to feed the loads. No crazy rules to follow for ON-GRID set ups, no bidirectional meters, no big buget zero inyection accesories and all that madness, plus ON-GRID offering for 120V is pretty limited.

  • @t.c.3027
    @t.c.3027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting, "a converter that doesn't need a battery" Thanks Will for info that's new to me!

  • @laserflexr6321
    @laserflexr6321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is clear looking though the comments on this video that there is an underserved segment of the market. I know there are plenty out there but it is hard to dig through em all to find one that will do it in a simple and efficient way and even harder to find one marketed that way. 2-6kw or so solar without batteries, independent of the grid. Going in to this adventure I thought that would be THE most common use, surprized to find that it is almost unheard of.
    Ok because of motor starting current you either need a LOT bigger array, or battery. Some have mentioned making use of caps, ehh gonna take a bunch of them in place of a battery, real spendy. On the panel side, unless the inverter had provision for it in the algorythm it is gonna give the MPPT fits and you would still need big, expensive caps on each panel in the string to do any good, and the cheaper electrolytics are not gonna live long at roof temperatures. In this case the battery doesnt have to be elaborate 3 day, whole house battery, it really only needs to be big enough to kick 40 amps for a few seconds maybe twice an hour, it could be as small as a motorcycle battery or a handful of 18650's and Bob's your uncle, or Bob was your dad in my case. But why not go ahead and use a car battery for nearly the same price and get an hour or 3 of cloud protection?
    If this inverter can be set up to do so, that starting current supplied by grid, run current supplied by solar that would eliminate the battery except when grid is down. My main goal at the moment is to reduce the on-peak usage as much as possible due to price. For about 5 years I have been pre chilling the house then not running ac for the 5 hottest hours of the day. Sick of that s**t! Just need to run a window unit, fridge, an led lamp, router and computer during that time, that is my main goal at the moment. Off to watch more of your vids. Thanks! like, like, like, like......

  • @matthewprather7386
    @matthewprather7386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inverter type AC systems may help by reduce the need for a battery since they’d have much lower starting current. And since they’re typically a lot more efficient, it might be money better spent than on a battery. Then again, a battery sure makes a system more resilient in the short term.

  • @ncdjcompany
    @ncdjcompany 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I know nothing of solar but I do know that I am working with an e-pro 19-FBS travel camper. I currently have the factory installed Go Power 1000 watt power inverter with the 30 amp controller and a 100 watt solar panel (flexible panel that, like you mentioned in one of your videos has only lasted about a year and a half). I have two interstate HD24-DP dual purpose Marine/RV batteries. I want to upgrade to a 200 watt solar panel but may end up adding two or three of the same 200 watt solar panels in the future. So, with having some things already installed from the factory, I don't want to waste money on something. I agree with you that parting out all the things needed becomes costly so I am considering something like this all in one. I dont know exactly how much power I am shooting for but I know that anything will be better than the 100 watt panel from Go Power (which no longer works but may be under warranty - I'll check). I have two 2200 watt gas generators that I used to run together to run my air conditioner but I found a way around the surge that the air conditioner pulled to require two generators by purchasing a "Soft Start" device that is a godsend so now I only need my one 2200 watt generator to run the AC. Anyway, I know I'm rambling on but long story short, my focus to solar has been of greater interest recently because I want to take my camper to the Imagine Festival in Atlanta next month which is a three day festival but they do NOT allow gas generators and so I am looking at running power via my Jeep to operate my air conditioner unless there is a way this unit in your video would help to minimize the need to constantly run off my Jeep via an inverter. Love the videos. Great info. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm a travel respiratory therapist and always looking to make electricity life easier!

  • @LithiumSolar
    @LithiumSolar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I think the biggest issue I see with a battery-less system is stability of your solar. Even if your array is large enough, you just need a cloud to go by and it drops out lol. I agree on the still needing a small battery!

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Good point!!!

    • @magamike1800
      @magamike1800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I sell ebikes and have loads of 48V lithium batteries. i will use one or 2 as a buffer. they are 17AH so they have a fair amount of capacity.

    • @neliosamch3195
      @neliosamch3195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      In the other hand, if the batteries suffer a catastrophic failure you stil can pump water to higher elevation, run the freezer and even the water heater which don't need a constant energy supply.

    • @jschaeke
      @jschaeke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I ran my EAsun aio a while (looks nearly identical to the mpp solar Will in the video replaced) without a battery. I noticed it had some safety to produce well below the solar pv wattage. As soon as I added the batteries the full potential of the solar array became available. There are some small cheap Lifepo4 cells with high C rating on Aliexpress, so I agree you need to add some of those to have the small buffer capacity.

    • @fordfalcon1965
      @fordfalcon1965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Would be a good as a stand alone system to heat water maybe?

  • @rdlspmg6752
    @rdlspmg6752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's awesome it answered a bunch of questions I had about those inverters I was thinking about getting some but I want to run my house with solar as soon as I can get all the stuff together and I was thinking of getting a couple of those inverters but I don't think that 3000 watts is enough

  • @frankbush333
    @frankbush333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your almost at the point of an alternative style grid tie... cool. Just finished doing a small scale portable 150w batteriless video myself should have it posted tonight, can't wait to see your part 2, cheers!

  • @WillProwse
    @WillProwse  3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Guess what! The LV6548 has the 'batteryless" feature as well. I had no clue. Thanks to my viewers for pointing that out. That's awesome!
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    • @raybacchus1026
      @raybacchus1026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Brother Will thanks for doing dis video ... so my question is what is array voltage for the LV6548 for the batteryless

    • @paial
      @paial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Will, baterryless inverter is the perfect tool for your last video scenario. Just hook it up to the solar panels in the roof.
      (Disconnect it from the grid-tie inverter of course)

    • @SetitesTechAdventures
      @SetitesTechAdventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was just about to hop in and comment about that. Glad to see you getting on this quickly. I have never given it much thought though as I assumed all inverters could be batteryless, but they'd be sucky. I like watching your videos because your commentary shows you are thinking. I was thinking of a small battery to handle the compressor kicking on. I use batteries with my 3d printers to lower the draw at the wall.

    • @cclenergy3033
      @cclenergy3033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I called Growatt China 2 months ago. The engineer said you need either battery or AC input (grid backup). You can’t run on PV alone. I have a 5kw version of this. Don’t waste your time on testing it without battery or grid support. Pls focus on battery only, and then with grid only.

    • @zarbonida
      @zarbonida 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cclenergy3033 Right! Engineer said the same to me.
      Capacitors are going to be warm and they're burning without a battery or a grid

  • @philipsgarage
    @philipsgarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the videos! Would you be able to do a video showing how you wire your inverter to a subpanel with the AC output like you have setup?

  • @maroman556
    @maroman556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please test its ability to blend grid power with solar. I know you can probably not mix them in your state but for a demo you could add another inverter to simulate the grid. The grid would make starting the heavier loads no problem.

    • @Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie
      @Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That model has the ability cutover to grid power if your solar panels can't keep up with what's being drawn from it, I believe. I think I saw this same model being demoed on another channel.

    • @maroman556
      @maroman556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie Thanks I will look for it. Do you know if it combines the grid power ie if you have an 800 watt load but only have 400 solar avail it provides 400 from each?

  • @edwardmorales1025
    @edwardmorales1025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jja. Your are BRILLIANT Will. Do you do paid calls?

  • @MUHerd37
    @MUHerd37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hate that it needs 120v minimum. So basically if you have less than 10 panels it's useless even if you have a battery bank as well?

    • @jackscrafts9202
      @jackscrafts9202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish I understood this before I bought the 48v 3000 ES. Says 120-250v range, but my 6-100W panels are not enough even though they are VMP 20.4 (VOC 24.3). Ordered 2 more hope it is enough to turn this sucker on.

    • @MUHerd37
      @MUHerd37 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackscrafts9202 Hope it works for ya. Luckily I bought the Growatt that also uses a battery bank. Have had it for over a year and I really like it. I have 8 panels as well.

  • @NinjaForHire
    @NinjaForHire 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see how this was also of getting all that done at once. You definitely need to do part 2. It's pretty neat running straight off of solar that's like ideal if it were always possible but definitely all t more difficult to achieve. I know you definitely have enough panels by now to do it though. I wish I could start my own solar array.

  • @twebster1948
    @twebster1948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU WILL...

  • @wasuremashita
    @wasuremashita 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    YOU MADE THE VIDEO I REQUESTED! Thanks Will! Thanks internet!

  • @acacia987
    @acacia987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what happens if you connect it to the grid, is it smart enough to use solar over grid and supplement when solar drops?

  • @RobVollmar
    @RobVollmar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great video! Your idea about creating discrete systems for discrete functions is something I've been thinking about quite a bit. By creating these large capacity, centralized power systems, we're really just recreating the existing grid on a smaller scale. Decentralization fosters resilience, which is something I think we're all seeking by learning about in pursuing solar-powered home-scale systems.

    • @johnhufnagel
      @johnhufnagel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think like most ideas, discrete vs. centralized all comes down to the specific case. There's benefit to discrete, in terms of resiliency, but centralization makes switching between alternative sources for everything much simpler.

    • @mikemotorbike4283
      @mikemotorbike4283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      too many variables with discrete, wayyyyyy too much work when there are all in ones. even installers make mistakes. You'd have to watch all of Wills videos twice to remember everything. And practice for a year, or take an elecro-mechanical technology course. And yes they employ the same principles and hardware as a utility grade infrastructure. (For that matter, so does a solar light.) Unless you're handy, I'd say just get 'er dun, buy a backup if you're worried, and learn as you go.

  • @AskIveSolar
    @AskIveSolar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An update to this video would be great. I was curious about clarity on terms like "small battery" like how small.

  • @tinytoons2517
    @tinytoons2517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff Will, amazes me how you come up with all these ideas and scenarios, I really like your ingenuity !

  • @darinheath
    @darinheath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    They just keep making better versions of this product line.

  • @soberpickle8195
    @soberpickle8195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought one in April, just started hookup yesterday, (was waiting on all materials needed) and the positive battery lug broke off when I was loosening it. Thought I was screwed and then noticed wiring damage on communication card. Contacted the company, sent them a picture they wanted. 2 hours later got a text saying they are sending me a new unit and a packing slip to send the defective one back. Now that is service and look forward to doing more business with them in the future.

  • @StartledPancake
    @StartledPancake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Will, could you please check the vampire consumption of these inverters? The older voltronics need for @ 70w is a major downside, hopefully newer hybrid inverters are better in this regard.

  • @melinda5777
    @melinda5777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So enjoyed this video and the all in one. Its exciting to see something new and watch you mess with and test it to show just what it can and cant take. Thank you!

  • @davelamont
    @davelamont 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You always have good information on your channel. I've been watching for a long time. Keep up the great work.

  • @OblivionTechYT
    @OblivionTechYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you please make a video on real time sharing of power between grid and solar while remaining off grid? I have seen videos of some inverters having this feature.

  • @smacospasovski5123
    @smacospasovski5123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have ordered the 5000 please review that one also

  • @gibo1971
    @gibo1971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Question? Growatt or mpp solar for off grid.

    • @wordbear3r
      @wordbear3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd say growatt

    • @jameshughes131
      @jameshughes131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Growatt

    • @2ndAveScents
      @2ndAveScents 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Either one as long as you get US based support from someone like Signature Solar.

    • @jameshughes131
      @jameshughes131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2ndAveScents they helped me even though dig solar wasn't the company. Growatt support is non existent

  • @roberthedler8947
    @roberthedler8947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quick Question, on the spec sheet for the LV6548 6.5KW it says (18A) PV per input @250V is this accurate, if so how would, one manage that panel wise

    • @Goodlifetu
      @Goodlifetu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello. good question I have the same doubt my growatt 3000w says the same 18A and I don't know how many panels I can put on it.

  • @kurtmagnus5243
    @kurtmagnus5243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to know how to create a solar powered cold room out of the shipping container

  • @Spartan2x
    @Spartan2x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I’m so glad to find a guy who has the same definition as “fun” that I do 😂

  • @LatinDanceVideos
    @LatinDanceVideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see problems with cloudy days and winter. I've been thinking of building a small system with small battery capacity to run my fridges. even if the fridges stop/start during the day, then switch to mains overnight, it's worthwhile if the setup cost is low enough. (have a bunch of almost free second hand panels to use and source cheap inverters)

  • @TheSaltblock
    @TheSaltblock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you test an array for working voltage before hooking up? Won't a multimeter only show open circuit voltage?

  • @YT-Observer
    @YT-Observer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    its a good case for a super capacitor bank - there is a video here where a guy uses super/ultra capacitors as the storage bank and runs his power tools with them. in fact it might be good to have 2 arrays of caps one for each PV set so you could match that output

    • @randacnam7321
      @randacnam7321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      With supercapacitors, the useful capacity with an inverter like this is a fraction of total capacity. Energy density and cost aren't good either. LTO is better for this application.

    • @kuzadupa185
      @kuzadupa185 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would you please share link to the video or its title?

  • @odirex
    @odirex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "batteryless" setup would probably be great with a small supercapacitor bank for surges.

  • @jimsbagels1991
    @jimsbagels1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like it would be good for a pool pump

  • @coolzielu
    @coolzielu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is the standby consumption on this unit?

  • @ThomasBomb45
    @ThomasBomb45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see you can also use it in hybrid mode with grid input. Can you test hybrid mode without batteries? Does it use solar and grid simultaneously?

  • @paulmacgiollacaoine8619
    @paulmacgiollacaoine8619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When testing voltage of two panels in series with a multimeter is the reading open circuit voltage or working voltage?
    I’m a bit confused about what exactly open circuit voltage is 😀

    • @ericthered9655
      @ericthered9655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Voltage is potential difference. When it's all at the one side, it's highest.

  • @jmr
    @jmr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really like the possibility of running without a battery. There are some good use cases.

    • @jmr
      @jmr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @marthale7 There are a lot of applications that a cloud isn't a deal breaker like boilers, pumps, cooling, and heating.

    • @jmr
      @jmr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @marthale7 Motors can be tricky. I hear they aren't fond of impure sine waves either.

  • @DVDiclan
    @DVDiclan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    if it had AC IN it wouldn't need the battery to handle the surge.
    BTW how many ohms do you use for resistor?

  • @McTroyd
    @McTroyd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I also strategically leave wires disconnected "for safety reasons." That's my story and I'm sticking to it. 😁🤣👍

  • @MrSeebobski
    @MrSeebobski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing is device needs auto restart to run on this inverter. Like a frig without will hot start and burn out with no oil in the reservoir with cycling on and off with the peeks and valleys of solar

  • @williamh.2982
    @williamh.2982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Will, I just got a MPPT Solar 5048 mg can I suggest that be your next build !!!! It is also no battery needed !!!!!!! I know you busy, but it would be a good build... OK it would sure help me....

    • @williamh.2982
      @williamh.2982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It also has 450 volt solar input..

  • @RolandW_DIYEnergyandMore
    @RolandW_DIYEnergyandMore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can use a battery-less system to charge you electronic devices, but that will be it :). Running higher loads will trip the unit with every cloud passing. Cannot trick physics, pretty useless without at least a small battery.

    • @jackscrafts9202
      @jackscrafts9202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      how small is a small battery?

    • @RolandW_DIYEnergyandMore
      @RolandW_DIYEnergyandMore 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackscrafts9202 2,5 kWh or 50 Ah. Something what can keep the system running for about 15 minutes under higher load...

  • @Brian.S
    @Brian.S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't help but wonder if the no-battery configuration is more for net metering, not off-grid.

    • @mikemotorbike4283
      @mikemotorbike4283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      we can be store unused power on the grid for winter heating. its like having a big battery, but we don't have to look after them...and this incredible service is free. What we don't use by march gets refunded @1.6 cents a Kw. The real value of net metering is in the banking of extra power.

  • @tonyr3091
    @tonyr3091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Will, it would be fantastic to see if one of these Growatt or MPP batteryless inverters could trickle charge a Tesla without a battery or a very small battery👏👏

    • @Rj-nh1df
      @Rj-nh1df ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes we need update update update

  • @tim3612
    @tim3612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Way over my head, I might have to watch 2 or 3 more times.

    • @zumapuma38
      @zumapuma38 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree. I had no idea what he was talking about.

    • @Spartan2x
      @Spartan2x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And that’s the beauty of TH-cam. You can learn at your own pace.

  • @wvmurse
    @wvmurse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder if a person could use 4 48v panels and use this on a van build?? Along with a 3kw battery should be able to run a 10kbtu ac... I would think

  • @AskIveSolar
    @AskIveSolar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "it's like magic" why yes, yes it is
    3:32

  • @SWPG
    @SWPG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *WOW super cool. Great Videos Brother !*

  • @bobpoggi6220
    @bobpoggi6220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the benefit of not having a battery? whatever you are powering will only work with sunlight available. correct?

  • @theonlywoody2shoes
    @theonlywoody2shoes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rather than using a (small) battery could you use a super-capacitor bank, similar to those used in car audio systems, to handle the brief surge load?

    • @randacnam7321
      @randacnam7321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Energy density of supercapacitors is not good. A better solution would be a small lithium titanate battery, given the high charge cycle count it would have.

  • @nerdwithagun01
    @nerdwithagun01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey Will. I just got one of these myself and am doing the math around what panel combination to use. the max working current on the scc is 18A so to get the full rated 4kW you would need a working Vmp of 225v which is too close to 250v and would def have the Voc over it for most panels. I’m considering over paneling and hoping that the 18A max was conservative. Im also considering strings of 6 250W panels for a combined Vmp of 182 and Voc of 226. But even that puts the open circuit voltage over 250v in temperatures below -11C. Can I safely assume at that temperature the panels are going to be in a season without direct sunlight at their tilt angle and safely under 250v? Or is 250v a hard limit

    • @brianmcmahon4156
      @brianmcmahon4156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      great question. I just bought one too. I plan at fusing with an inline at 18 amps @ 250 vdc. the units sensitivity to current and voltage are unknowns. I hope this will protect the unit on cold bright days. from over voltage.

    • @nerdwithagun01
      @nerdwithagun01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks. That fuse won’t protect you from over voltage. The 250V rating denotes the max voltage it can work at. It will blow at 18A as long as its under 250V. And I’m not sure you would want to fuse too closely the 18A max either. I don’t think 18A is a limit you can’t pass without breaking it, as much as it is a limit it won’t ever exceed. Love to have clarification on that though.

    • @brianmcmahon4156
      @brianmcmahon4156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nerdwithagun01 The manual said that it is capable of 4000 watt input. if you fuse at 18 amp.222 is your max voltage. you can buy fast acting fuses if the 18 amp is critical .but if your looking at the same panels as I am OCV is 37.6 takes you to your 226 ok on the voltage not on the wattage at 18 amps. but if your looking at the same panels the max amps 8.17X2 times 226 v = 3693 watts that works. thankyou for your reply. I have and email out to find out about the a cold sunny day on the panel.

    • @jameshughes131
      @jameshughes131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianmcmahon4156 so your fuse size will be determined by you solar panels specifications. By law any array that is in series needs fuses at each panel. Each panels fuse requirement is different. This number is found on the back of the panel. For example a Santan 250 w panel puts out Max 8amps. But rated for 15amps. Thus if you wire them to up amps you need fuses to make sure 16 amps won't bleed into a panel only rated for 15 if a short were to occur.

    • @jameshughes131
      @jameshughes131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nerdwithagun01 but....the panels don't produce the full 8 amps each thus never reaching over 15 amps. The fuses are for systems with lots of amps. Say for example you have 20 amp short shooting electricity to a 15amp Max panel that's only puts out 8 amps or less. That panel may catch fires thus a fuse is used. When short occurs the 15 amp fuse blows before the 20 amps can reach panel thus preventing a fire.

  • @markhood461
    @markhood461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Will, have You seen or heard of the ROSEN 10kw 48v LiFePo4 power walls? Was just sent a note from Alibaba regarding them, Cheers, Happy FRIDAY!

  • @Florida-cracker
    @Florida-cracker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have wondered if you could take a grid-tie system and use it as a stand alone system (without batteries because it is a grid-tie system). My thought was get a small PV panel and small inverter/battery and connect that to the A/C OUT side of the grid tie inverter to act as a reference and mimic the A/C grid. The output side of the grid tie inverter should then supply current.

    • @mikemotorbike4283
      @mikemotorbike4283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "How to fake a sine wave." It could be really small, like a 15w car cigarette lighter inverter, which could be powered by your big batteries. The small inverter might be asked to produce a continuous 7 watt (minimum, I'm guessing). Maybe the big inverter would burn up the small inverter, demanding as much as it could get continuously. Maybe there's a setting to limit AC draw.
      It might somehow be circulating in the system if it was connected to the big battery, although the big inverter's AC/DC transformer windings are isolated. Would something overheat? I'm not sure if I can see the grounds. Your idea to use a solar panel might remove this potential issue as it would isolate the grounds, I think. Would that be a bad thing? You'd need a 10-20 watt panel I guess for an AC15w small DC12v inverter.
      or buy an brand new inverter that has the specific feature of switching to battery when the power goes out. (it's understood they must all disconnect from the grid within 2 seconds of grid down)

  • @karinmichaelson5581
    @karinmichaelson5581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Will, thanks for your videos, they help a lot! I'm a beginner and I'm having trouble with my Growatt 3500 ES (48V) charging my Pyontech 48V Battery. The Inverter is not registering my AC input. Do you have a suggestion? Thanks, Peter.

  • @mcsol473
    @mcsol473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!!! Try out solar+utility with no battery! Manual say it can work without battery, just solar+utility as battery

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Smart idea! Will do

    • @GreekSIMRACING
      @GreekSIMRACING 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WillProwse when you will do it?

  • @abambac
    @abambac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, you have a great channel! I’m planning a Growatt installation in my cabin.
    Does the fans make alot of noice?
    It’s working temperature 55c - 0c. I’m a little concerned about our winters here in Sweden. What do you think?

  • @kerimedley8732
    @kerimedley8732 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would be the array with a battery? Size of and how many panels

  • @devenjones7231
    @devenjones7231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going to have to hire someone...idk what the fck i'm doing ah

  • @iviaverick52
    @iviaverick52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you have utility AC tie-in, can the inverter switch fast enough between solar and utility if there's not enough voltage from the panels?

    • @UBGood
      @UBGood ปีที่แล้ว

      Still waiting on answer 😢

  • @oneshot_onekill4618
    @oneshot_onekill4618 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would this unit work with 1000W of solar (4 santan 250W panels in series)? They produce around 37.6 VOC each.

  • @JRR31984
    @JRR31984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME video. Man. THAT'S getting work done. Very GOOD.

  • @dan-ignacekafwimbi6551
    @dan-ignacekafwimbi6551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any link please to check this product out?

  • @0zerodegree0
    @0zerodegree0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    where is the part 2 for Tesla charging? thanks

  • @chrisp7652
    @chrisp7652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can these units work lying on their back instead of upright?

  • @tymgreentech
    @tymgreentech 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so sad I didn't buy the Growatt over the Renogy. The Renogy costs more and doesn't even have wifi...

  • @hnizard
    @hnizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your videos. Congrats. It's a while I am following these Growatt which can operate batteryless. But I am a bit confused when connected to AC In from the grid. When the loads exceed the solar production, would the AC In (grid) ?: 1- supplement the solar prod ? Or 2- supply all the loads instead of the inverter ? And 3 - would the inverter trip off (as with your AC unit) requiring a manual intervention to reset ? Thanks again.

  • @brockdelorenzo1120
    @brockdelorenzo1120 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 4 12v 100a lithium batteries. Can I use them with this unit for small cabin

  • @toronado455
    @toronado455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will there are some 5000 BTU window A/C units with very low startup surge which would work better for your application. That portable A/C you are using isn't ideal. And those portable units are inefficient too.

  • @unclewill
    @unclewill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some one new to all this like me don’t understand what the hell your talking about

  • @ecospider5
    @ecospider5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The growwatt with city power backup looks really cool. Allows a small building to run off solar but still work just fine in the winter without being grid tied.

  • @waynefilkins8394
    @waynefilkins8394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have an electrical license? I'm trying to figure out if I can install a grid-tie system without the ridiculous 8000 hours of work experience.

  • @chucktrotter9699
    @chucktrotter9699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4.21.21 Question: Does anyone know what the letters mean in Growatt SPF 3000TL LVM-ES. SPF= TL= LVM= ES=. Thanks if can say what the stand for. Good video Will.

  • @thefarmchannel188
    @thefarmchannel188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Will!! Love the Videos.
    i have been looking to build an off grid system for a while now. i mostly need it in lower temp months just to keep the lights on (all LED of course) and run my well pump as necessary. the biggest hassle for me is trying to build and size a system for the summer months when i would absolutely need AC.
    i keep looking at the MPP (48V) all in ones, several 400w panels and at least 10kw of battery (your should for sure do a video on some of the different Alibaba power walls) but i always stop short because i just feel like i am missing something, and i get nervous ordering the power walls.
    anyway thanks for the content. as said i really enjoy it. thank about doing that power wall video.

  • @allalphazerobeta8643
    @allalphazerobeta8643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    May I suggest going to harbor freight or amazon and buying some Composite Ratchets. They're pretty decent and they eliminate one of the biggest risks for short circuits when dealing with live battery terminals. Also, thanks for mentioning that you could use two to do split phase. I'm currently considering a smaller system for a trailer but would like to able to move it into a house at some point and get split phase.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have them in all sizes. But they were on other side of my property. And yes indeed. I was being careful.

    • @WillProwse
      @WillProwse  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah it would work great for that application

  • @unionse7en
    @unionse7en 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never did the Part 2 batteryless charging a car... I guess?

    • @Coheld
      @Coheld 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wondering the same, have inverter and other products wanting to purchase a tesla and use some solar with grid power to charge.

  • @lindylund280
    @lindylund280 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for part 2.

  • @danfarrington1659
    @danfarrington1659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wil this unit work with 220v clothes dryer and a 220v induction range?

  • @rasol136
    @rasol136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mr. Prowse is akin to the Mr. Rodgers of our era. Keep up the great work on informing us of all the new solar/battery tech out there!

  • @whatthefunction9140
    @whatthefunction9140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your enthusiasm. What other things are you into?

  • @jbnrusnya_should_be_punished
    @jbnrusnya_should_be_punished 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Running AC without battery on a sunny day is kinda easy task. But how about making work AC for heating a house without battery?

  • @doghousejim
    @doghousejim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you put a hard start capacitor on that AC unit?

  • @Ojames600
    @Ojames600 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello I just receive that same inverter today, I have 8 panels. OCV=38.2v, Volt-Pmax=30.6v, Current Pmax=8.5amp . what do you recommend for connecting the panel 2s2p? Thank you

  • @garethbaus5471
    @garethbaus5471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something like this seems like it would work better with a blend of power sources perhaps solar and wind so you can get more consistent power without needing as large of a battery.

  • @mikedesverknopf4681
    @mikedesverknopf4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could I use a jackery 500 for the battery bank? If I got the grow unit?

  • @lowrads3653
    @lowrads3653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would this be ideal for a mechanical gravity battery?

  • @inteligencianerdbr3505
    @inteligencianerdbr3505 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you give me some information? my inverter in SUB mode, it charges the battery and uses solar energy for the connected loads, normally, but as soon as it finishes charging the battery to 100% it simply stops using solar energy for the house and uses the electricity grid. , this is normal ?

  • @KokkimelonChannel
    @KokkimelonChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didnt you try to charge your car directly with that? Of course AC, and other devices wants very big arrays to create instantaneously power in order to run the high loads ,but the car, car charge slowly all day without problem! Who cares about how quick will charge if it is free?

  • @jackiescrew1572
    @jackiescrew1572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Will, love your blogs I consider your info to be extremely accurate and truthful thanks for that. I’m planing to hit the road in a year and a half once my trailer build is done. I’m planing on use this growatt for my 48v lithium 280ah bat bank with 4 410w bifacial panels you recommended and a 2000w wind turbine later to ad on. Now after watching this video I’m wondering if I’m on the right track, if you have any input I would be appreciate but I also understand if you chose not to comment. Keep up the great videos.

  • @JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel
    @JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a gizmo like this box or what would be the simplest way to put panels on a 10' by 20' shed being used as a woodworking shop. Need to run 220 volt dust collection and woodworking tools. Some are also 220 volts.

  • @cordellscott
    @cordellscott 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This inverter can take up to 250 volts but how many Amps can it handle?