Why? How would you even know? I was E for 8 years and O for 12 years. People didn't ask me if I was prior service. All that matters if someone can do the job. Could care less if they were E before.
@@drn13355you're being a bit facetious no? People always ask me if I was prior enlisted yes I was. It's how you've seen things being handled...and coming from a line unit during my enlisted time, they handled things differently.
Thanks again for posting these kind of videos. I find them helpful for those wanting to know a little more or get a different perspective from someone who has been through recently such as yourslelf.
If one is an officer...then yes. But please...if you're a newly minted 2LT... please don't admonish some salty E8/9 if they don't....they will have fun with that...in fact, if whoever forget to salute by accident, don't take it personally.
Hello, Sir. Great video. In addition, I got a call from my local recruiting office. I’m gonna start my application packet for WOFT. I’ll be applying as a prior enlisted Sailor from naval aviation.
That is awesome congratulations. I had one guy that switched from the navy to us and became a warrant and he had 15 years in the navy. If I can help let me know
Same as everyone else. To many variables but given your job you can be. If your on a convoy and get attacked that’s combat. Everyone is pretty much decorated the same give their responsibility and position
In my USMC days, there existed a very specific type of CWO. Called a Gunner. It's an infantry E7- Gunnery Sgt. That E7 becomes a Gunner if he chooses to go that route and that man is the subject matter expert on all weapon systems present within that regiment. They're not going to hold billets like NCO/officers though.
Just graduated college, debating on applying to WOFT or OCS. I like the idea of being a warrant officer and being more independent but commissioned officers have better standard of living and more management experience. What’s your opinion?
There pay and responsibilities are different. Warrants are still underneath the O grade side. The warrant is a specialist in a specific technical field that is it where as the O grade will have a specialty but will become essentially a generalist i.e. he might be a signal officer commanding a transportation company. O grade tend to be more political in a sense. So they do get paid more, even though a CW2 is equivalent to a Capt. and a CW3 to a Maj being that is where the field officer level begins. Way of life for a warrant is really good and pretty much equal to O grade if not better because you are in a league of your own. Also my Warrant Officer Expertise has set me up for my civilian job due to the technical part.
If you wanna fly through and through, go Warrant through WOFT. Commissioned officers eventually have to fly desks for good after the 8-year mark during service.
@@reijiminato8762 I,m a retired CW5. I flew every year of my 28 years. Remember, Flight pay is a great equalizer between WO and O grades. Bottom line, if you want to fly in the Army then you want to be a warrant officer.
@@stevenshockney3956 Roger, Sir. I’m in the process of putting in my application as prior service (from naval aviation). Hopefully, by next year, I’ll start training
It's definitely not that hard. Still recruiting for warrants a lot so if you go to a warrant officer recruiter they will help you with the paperwork as long as you meet the qualifications
The best approach is to get in touch with an assessions NCO. They are part of retention. They will help you complete your packet and send it to the board. The process is pretty straight forward. Once you complete WOC's you become a warrant. The comissoning paperwork is done then.
I was a SSG Ranger Instructor and went to Flight School. My Dad was a retired walking Warrant and I wanted to fly. Best decision I ever made. W1 to CW5. Rotary Wing and Fixed Wing. Finished my Degree. Retired and spent a second career with the FAA as a GS-14. Now triple dipping on a hobby farm. GOD is good!
Thank you for this. I met a great man one day who was a CWO2. I then looked it up and thought wow....wouldn't want to meet this guy in a dark alley, what training! And I RESPECT all who serve our Country. Cause FREEDOM is never free. God Bless you sir. Trump2020.
The rules are that a CW5 with decades of service needs to salute a 2nd Luey on his first day of service. The reality is that Warrant Officers know the in's and out's of the Army and can and will eff you up if needed...
It would be the same idiotic comparison to a LT ATTEMPTING to jack up a Command Sergeant Major. It ain’t happening on this planet or any other! CW5 here, out!
Is there anyway you and I could set up a video call? I’d love to get your opinion on some struggles I’m having debating right now between which route to take on a listing and what to do after.
I've seen them hold certain leadership billets but they are a commander's asset...like a brigade or division level consultant that's an asset by the level provided.
Excuse me, is it possible to go from warrant officer to commissioned officer? And what do you need to become a warrant officer regarding education level?
Depending on the needs of the Army the answer is yes! However to go on the “O” grade side, you will need to have your bachelors degree. I know as of now and it is kind of drying up, but there is a demand for cyber officers. If you’re a cyber warrant officer to put in your packet to become a cyber oh great officer would be a little easier because of the demand. However regardless of your warrant officer rank you will go in as a second Lieutenant. Once you’re a second Lieutenant I believe you have to go through that whole pipeline.
@@RobthaBlak yes I do know u have to be a E5 and have to go to WOCS and ik its 6 weeks But HOW DO YOU GO TO WOCS ik u have to summit a packet and i heard u have to get recommended or sum.... right now am going to school to be a diesel mechanic and will get an associates degree in applied science at my diesel school will that help me becoming a warrant officer? How does the proccess work to become a Warrant officer I just have to get signatures from like my NCO and cammander right?
Many of the fields warrant officers are in are fields that they have spent years as enlisted persons building experience. That experience building process can take 5-10 years give or take. One notable exception are the aviation warrant officers. Many come out of the enlisted ranks, but some go into flight training right after basic training. Becoming a pilot is a specific skill that an enlisted person cannot gain prior experience at because these days there are no enlisted pilots.
Chief! The WO-1 is comparable to a 2nd Lieutenant. CWO-2 is comparable to a 1st Lieutenant. The CW3 is akin to a Captain because the CW3 can command a Company or Detachment. The CW4 is Comparable to a Major and you usually find them at Battalion level or higher. Very rarely at company level. The CW5, or Master Warrant Officer, is generally a staff position at Division Level or higher. They also end up at Service Schools as instructors or OIC's at MOS producing schools training Junior Warrant Officers. I went through the Warrant Officer Certification Course at APG, MD. Best six months of my career because it challenged me mentally as well as physically and it pushed me beyond what I thought was my limits. The course also proved that we needed to psay attention to details.
CW3 is when a warrant becomes field grade. Thats why I did the comparison from there. But true usually 3 and above will be usually brigade and above... battalion is where you will mostly see 2's. What is Warrant Officer Certification Course? I know Warrant Officer Candidate Course but not that unless it was a rename.
That is not correct across sll warrant officer MOS. Some CW5 technical warrant officers (depending on MOS) are only found above Corps echelons - for example, CW5 350 series. Also, a CW3 is a field grade officer - comparable to as a MAJ (granted the O4 still out-ranks he/or she).
Warrant officer, you don't need to have a degree. These are usually experienced enlisted personnel who decide to go the warrant officer route. They are the brigade's technical experts in a specific field. Commissioned officers do need a 4 years degree (BA, BA, etc). I was enlisted once, once I finished my masters I went the commissioned officer route.
@@michaellopez968 You have to put in a packet to get selected to go to warrant officer candidate school. Once you pass then you are a basic warrant officer.
Yes they are. I met one in my time in the USMC, I was a Sgt then. In the army now, you're right, they're very different. Same responsibilities, but they are different.
@@shanestanton5481Do you mean 'has more experience?'... Because they do outrank an NCO. Both the officer and the NCO at that level know that. The symbolism is an NCO who has his authority and claim granted to him by the United States Congress (the people) advise and guide the mint of commission in the form a new company grade officer (who is a representative of the POTUS).
I mean.... there are easier ways to make money than this bud...if a paycheck is all you're looking for with your enlistment...it might seem longer than it is...
In what world? Not in my Navy ... never happen! And if, only if the O-1 had enough kahonas to say anything to a CWO5 ... the CWO5's response would most likely be ... "Normally, I'd gnaw your ass off right here ... since we're in public ... run along sonny."
has nothing to do with that... look at it like this lets say 25 series you are a slice of the pie. 25b basic network, 25u radios etc. Warrants encompass the whole field
26,000? What is that, maybe 3% of the Army's stregth? Half of those 26,000 are probably helicopter pilots. They can't be replaced with NCO's and with a cap on commissioned officers, they can't be replaced by them either.
Dick Welch where do you think that NCO’s who wanted to excel and progressively challenge themselves. Nothing wrong with that. NCO’s will still do the work but when you want an answer remember Chief will have or get you the answer. Also Chief has magical repellant powers to keep shitty NCO’s and O- grades out of your lane and you can operate normally. Sounds like you may be jaded since your GT isn’t 110 or above?? Not sure..
Sounds just like something a hateful Dick would say! Warrants make up less than 2% of the Army. We don't interfere with NCO's work, we are an elite team that use to be NCOs but made the cut to become quiet professionals.. only a few have the privilege to make it, although many try. We hold one of the hardest schools in the military to complete. Many NCOs try and fail, so we who make it are worthy.
I’ve always had more respect for officers who were enlisted first .
Why? How would you even know? I was E for 8 years and O for 12 years. People didn't ask me if I was prior service. All that matters if someone can do the job. Could care less if they were E before.
I always had respect for officers that were good people regardless of their path to comissioning.
@@drn13355you're being a bit facetious no? People always ask me if I was prior enlisted yes I was. It's how you've seen things being handled...and coming from a line unit during my enlisted time, they handled things differently.
Thanks again for posting these kind of videos. I find them helpful for those wanting to know a little more or get a different perspective from someone who has been through recently such as yourslelf.
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I am a O, but always enjoyed more the technical aspect of things. Working to see if I get picked for WO in the Reserves.
When did you drop that packet? Is it with the PA guard? I know so many people submitted packets to go aviation.
I was in JROTC. One of teacher's was a CWO4 William D. Inman. 1 tough cookie.
What’s an RLO? 😂 Buddy, the best description I used as CW4, is Warrant Officers are Technocrats. Try it out for size
so would a E-8 or E-9 salute to you or are you higher then them?
They are part of the Enlisted group and Warrant Officers are Officers ergo outrank Enlisted ranks.
If one is an officer...then yes. But please...if you're a newly minted 2LT... please don't admonish some salty E8/9 if they don't....they will have fun with that...in fact, if whoever forget to salute by accident, don't take it personally.
Hello, Sir.
Great video.
In addition, I got a call from my local recruiting office. I’m gonna start my application packet for WOFT. I’ll be applying as a prior enlisted Sailor from naval aviation.
That is awesome congratulations. I had one guy that switched from the navy to us and became a warrant and he had 15 years in the navy. If I can help let me know
Thank you.
Do warrant officers go into actually combat and how are the decorated??
Same as everyone else. To many variables but given your job you can be. If your on a convoy and get attacked that’s combat.
Everyone is pretty much decorated the same give their responsibility and position
In my USMC days, there existed a very specific type of CWO. Called a Gunner. It's an infantry E7- Gunnery Sgt. That E7 becomes a Gunner if he chooses to go that route and that man is the subject matter expert on all weapon systems present within that regiment.
They're not going to hold billets like NCO/officers though.
Just graduated college, debating on applying to WOFT or OCS.
I like the idea of being a warrant officer and being more independent but commissioned officers have better standard of living and more management experience.
What’s your opinion?
There pay and responsibilities are different. Warrants are still underneath the O grade side. The warrant is a specialist in a specific technical field that is it where as the O grade will have a specialty but will become essentially a generalist i.e. he might be a signal officer commanding a transportation company. O grade tend to be more political in a sense. So they do get paid more, even though a CW2 is equivalent to a Capt. and a CW3 to a Maj being that is where the field officer level begins. Way of life for a warrant is really good and pretty much equal to O grade if not better because you are in a league of your own. Also my Warrant Officer Expertise has set me up for my civilian job due to the technical part.
If you wanna fly through and through, go Warrant through WOFT. Commissioned officers eventually have to fly desks for good after the 8-year mark during service.
@@reijiminato8762 I,m a retired CW5. I flew every year of my 28 years. Remember, Flight pay is a great equalizer between WO and O grades. Bottom line, if you want to fly in the Army then you want to be a warrant officer.
@@stevenshockney3956 Roger, Sir. I’m in the process of putting in my application as prior service (from naval aviation). Hopefully, by next year, I’ll start training
@@reijiminato8762 good luck to you and I wish you fair wins and clear skies
I like this video. It also has some great information.
How hard is it to switch over to warrant?
It's definitely not that hard. Still recruiting for warrants a lot so if you go to a warrant officer recruiter they will help you with the paperwork as long as you meet the qualifications
Rob tha Blak Thank you for the feedback!
What is the process like to go from Enlisted to Warrant Officer?
The best approach is to get in touch with an assessions NCO. They are part of retention. They will help you complete your packet and send it to the board.
The process is pretty straight forward. Once you complete WOC's you become a warrant. The comissoning paperwork is done then.
I was a SSG Ranger Instructor and went to Flight School. My Dad was a retired walking Warrant and I wanted to fly. Best decision I ever made. W1 to CW5. Rotary Wing and Fixed Wing. Finished my Degree. Retired and spent a second career with the FAA as a GS-14. Now triple dipping on a hobby farm. GOD is good!
Thank you for this. I met a great man one day who was a CWO2. I then looked it up and thought wow....wouldn't want to meet this guy in a dark alley, what training! And I RESPECT all who serve our Country. Cause FREEDOM is never free. God Bless you sir. Trump2020.
thanks for the broadcast
Thank you. For the comparisons. My question is what happens when a 1Lt tries to bang out a CW5.
Does the the CW5 lock heels or does he walk away.
The rules are that a CW5 with decades of service needs to salute a 2nd Luey on his first day of service. The reality is that Warrant Officers know the in's and out's of the Army and can and will eff you up if needed...
It would be the same idiotic comparison to a LT ATTEMPTING to jack up a Command Sergeant Major. It ain’t happening on this planet or any other! CW5 here, out!
@@rangerdave9255 lmboooooo on this planet or any other 😂😂😂
How much do you get paid? (Ballpark not exact numbers)
I wanna become a warrant officer when am done with college am ganna go in as a 91 bravo
Is there anyway you and I could set up a video call? I’d love to get your opinion on some struggles I’m having debating right now between which route to take on a listing and what to do after.
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@@RobthaBlak what would be the best way and when to contact you?
@@tommy11sixorozco9 Ill shoot you my info in a bit.
Do warrant officers have leadership responsibility, or are they strictly technical professionals, and only worry about their own responsibilities?
I've seen them hold certain leadership billets but they are a commander's asset...like a brigade or division level consultant that's an asset by the level provided.
My board is in a few days
Good luck
Rob tha Blak board started today
Excuse me, is it possible to go from warrant officer to commissioned officer? And what do you need to become a warrant officer regarding education level?
Depending on the needs of the Army the answer is yes! However to go on the “O” grade side, you will need to have your bachelors degree. I know as of now and it is kind of drying up, but there is a demand for cyber officers. If you’re a cyber warrant officer to put in your packet to become a cyber oh great officer would be a little easier because of the demand. However regardless of your warrant officer rank you will go in as a second Lieutenant. Once you’re a second Lieutenant I believe you have to go through that whole pipeline.
How lone did it take you to become a warrant officer how many years have you been a warrant officer??? How many years have you been in?
So you will have to go in enlisted first then you will have to be at least an E5 to apply. Me I have 16 yrs in and been a Warrant for 5.
@@RobthaBlak yes I do know u have to be a E5 and have to go to WOCS and ik its 6 weeks But HOW DO YOU GO TO WOCS ik u have to summit a packet and i heard u have to get recommended or sum.... right now am going to school to be a diesel mechanic and will get an associates degree in applied science at my diesel school will that help me becoming a warrant officer? How does the proccess work to become a Warrant officer I just have to get signatures from like my NCO and cammander right?
Many of the fields warrant officers are in are fields that they have spent years as enlisted persons building experience. That experience building process can take 5-10 years give or take. One notable exception are the aviation warrant officers. Many come out of the enlisted ranks, but some go into flight training right after basic training. Becoming a pilot is a specific skill that an enlisted person cannot gain prior experience at because these days there are no enlisted pilots.
Hmmmmm never knew this, had a fantastic CWO3 in the marines and i never even knew he was technically viewed as a Field grade officer
Yup, and evaluations are field grade evals. Now even though field grade in respect, but still a Warrant.
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I’m supporting the Robinson clan too. I’m a sub now.
Chief! The WO-1 is comparable to a 2nd Lieutenant. CWO-2 is comparable to a 1st Lieutenant. The CW3 is akin to a Captain because the CW3 can command a Company or Detachment. The CW4 is Comparable to a Major and you usually find them at Battalion level or higher. Very rarely at company level. The CW5, or Master Warrant Officer, is generally a staff position at Division Level or higher. They also end up at Service Schools as instructors or OIC's at MOS producing schools training Junior Warrant Officers. I went through the Warrant Officer Certification Course at APG, MD. Best six months of my career because it challenged me mentally as well as physically and it pushed me beyond what I thought was my limits. The course also proved that we needed to psay attention to details.
CW3 is when a warrant becomes field grade.
Thats why I did the comparison from there. But true usually 3 and above will be usually brigade and above... battalion is where you will mostly see 2's. What is Warrant Officer Certification Course? I know Warrant Officer Candidate Course but not that unless it was a rename.
Excellent. Couldn’t have said it better myself. A retired CW5 155E Fixed Wing Driver
That is not correct across sll warrant officer MOS. Some CW5 technical warrant officers (depending on MOS) are only found above Corps echelons - for example, CW5 350 series. Also, a CW3 is a field grade officer - comparable to as a MAJ (granted the O4 still out-ranks he/or she).
Are you still at Dix?
Sorry it took me so long to respond but yeah, my detachment is on Dix. Back regular time now. No more remote drill.
do you need a bs or ba to qualify
Warrant officer, you don't need to have a degree. These are usually experienced enlisted personnel who decide to go the warrant officer route. They are the brigade's technical experts in a specific field.
Commissioned officers do need a 4 years degree (BA, BA, etc). I was enlisted once, once I finished my masters I went the commissioned officer route.
I wanna be a diesel mechanic warrant officer
make it happen
What is your mos
255a switching to 170a
@@RobthaBlak how long did it take you to become warrant officer?
Warrant officer candidate course was 6weeks long. You have to get selected before you can attend.
@@RobthaBlak how do you get selected?
@@michaellopez968 You have to put in a packet to get selected to go to warrant officer candidate school. Once you pass then you are a basic warrant officer.
CWOs are way different than the Army. Gunner
Yes they are. I met one in my time in the USMC, I was a Sgt then. In the army now, you're right, they're very different. Same responsibilities, but they are different.
Official rank and actual rank are different.
Expand on that statement.
@@RobthaBlak in reality, an NCO outranks a LT. A Chief outranks junior officers.
@@shanestanton5481Do you mean 'has more experience?'... Because they do outrank an NCO. Both the officer and the NCO at that level know that. The symbolism is an NCO who has his authority and claim granted to him by the United States Congress (the people) advise and guide the mint of commission in the form a new company grade officer (who is a representative of the POTUS).
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I mean.... there are easier ways to make money than this bud...if a paycheck is all you're looking for with your enlistment...it might seem longer than it is...
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A CW5 still salutes a second lieutenant, chief
That’s a fact all day.... not saying anything different on that
That will always be true. Not trying to dispute that at all.
In what world? Not in my Navy ... never happen! And if, only if the O-1 had enough kahonas to say anything to a CWO5 ... the CWO5's response would most likely be ... "Normally, I'd gnaw your ass off right here ... since we're in public ... run along sonny."
This CW5 never did.
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You will not make money in the military bud. But you'll have way more fun than the billionaires... trust me.
26000 warrant officers in the Army. Waste of slots. Need to get rid of them and let NCOs do their jobs
has nothing to do with that... look at it like this lets say 25 series you are a slice of the pie. 25b basic network, 25u radios etc. Warrants encompass the whole field
26,000? What is that, maybe 3% of the Army's stregth? Half of those 26,000 are probably helicopter pilots. They can't be replaced with NCO's and with a cap on commissioned officers, they can't be replaced by them either.
-when you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about-
Dick Welch where do you think that NCO’s who wanted to excel and progressively challenge themselves. Nothing wrong with that. NCO’s will still do the work but when you want an answer remember Chief will have or get you the answer. Also Chief has magical repellant powers to keep shitty NCO’s and O- grades out of your lane and you can operate normally. Sounds like you may be jaded since your GT isn’t 110 or above?? Not sure..
Sounds just like something a hateful Dick would say! Warrants make up less than 2% of the Army. We don't interfere with NCO's work, we are an elite team that use to be NCOs but made the cut to become quiet professionals.. only a few have the privilege to make it, although many try. We hold one of the hardest schools in the military to complete. Many NCOs try and fail, so we who make it are worthy.