How Nick’s death KILLED FTWD
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- Thanks for watching my video on how the death of Nick Clark from “Fear the Walking dead” a spin off show from the “Walking dead” killed the show. If you enjoyed please like and subscribe it would mean a lot! I do not own any of these video clips I have just added commentary and my own opinion.
PS. A big thanks to Mr Adam Barton with helping me creatively in this episode.
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It went from a Dysfunctional Family in a apocalypse to Morgan’s own spin off.
...and Morgan never kills, might as well be watching them sit around the campfire singing Kum-bi-ya at that point =(
People were calling it “Morgan and friends”
@@backtrakk2121 for real its so boring
@@ryman1933 It managed to get kind of good in season 6 but even when I try to defend it, I cant cause it went downhill again in seasons 7 and 8.
I think morgan should have got his own spin off with all the new characters and fear should have stayed with the clarks
So basically, Scott Gimple killed both shows. Thanks, Scott.
What a guy
Fully agree with you. Travis death was a punch in the gut for me, but killing off Nick was the real death of FTWD
Nick was the final straw!
Dude I REALLY liked Travis. When he was killed I was coping he'd survive, but I was like well..at least there's nick! Stopped watching the episode he died lol
Like I genuinely enjoyed fear more than the main show til the season they killed nick even after the death of travis
To be honest Travis' death was a great character development for Madisson, and well she left before Nick died, so yeah his death was pretty pointless. They say eye for an eye will leave the world blind, but that's not always the case, and Morgan was wrong for that. Because of his peace bs, his friends could've died.
What was they supposed to do force the Nick actor to stay
I’ve never known a show be destroyed as bad as Fear, the first 3 seasons were so good, it’s such a tragedy,😢
I know it was so sad season 1-3 where peak TV
Different writers after season three.
They managed to pull it back with the second half of season 6, i was so pumped for season 7! Then s7 came around and it was terrible. I stopped watching ftwd after jd died.
Sad how he had good hair for 1 episode
Yeah the writers killed fear a few episodes in. I couldn't wait for this spin-off. Slogged thru season 1 an threw in the towel. I miss twd being awesome.
in conclusion gimple ruins anything he touches
Gimple, The Ruiner
Nick was basically Rick Grimes as the show revolved around him. He was the main character. Strand had a point that people like Nick would thrive in that world, he was one of the people that could have survived it. He covered himself in blood and walked with the dead, he felt alive with them and knew how to survive within that. When it comes down to the title of the show "Fear the Walking Dead" I don't think they were talking about the Walkers, I think it was aimed at Nick and people like him.
Gimple is the worst thing that ever happened to the TWD franchise
Yeah Scott M Gimple really is a shit director.
Gimple slowly killed it overtime, and AMC decided to promote him for some unknown reason. Someone must really like him there.
But the actor of nick wanted to leave the show
@@triplehkingofkings5883 id argue that was probably due to management change and it turning into the Morgan and friends show. Frank Dillane even mentioned that one of the reasons he wanted to leave was because of the show changing.
@@triplehkingofkings5883because of Gimples reboot idea, firing Madison's actress probably also was an issue.
Nick didn't kill the show. Scott Gimple did. Season 4 is just Morgan and the gang running a charity drive and making a documentary in the apocalypse.
Exactly, season 4 was so freaking bad
Travis, Jake, Ofelia, Troy, Nick, Madison...
After all of these characters have either been killed off or disappeared (like Madison and Troy, just to return in the final Season) in Season 3 and 4A, this just wasn't Fear The Walking Dead anymore.
Fear The Walking Dead Seasons 1-3 have out of any movie or TV series been the greatest thing I have ever watched and I loved every single minute of it (along with TWD S1-6). Such a pity that FTWD later went downhill like this.
Couldn’t agree with you more :(
agreed.. ftwd season 1-3 are among the greatest zombie stuff ever made.. right up there stuff from the godfather, George A Romero.
Never understood why killing Ofelia & bringing Luciana made sense. Nick could've had a romance with Ofelia. Ofelia became a badass so instantly, they all did
honestly after his death, i couldn't continue how ever many times i've tried
same
same and im a die hard fan of the walking dead world.
Exactly the same I really tried but I couldn’t keep my attention anymore..
Did a recent rewatch since I stopped watching way back when S4 started. I still couldn't finish the show beyond that episode. Loved the first 3 seasons though
Yep I never watched another episode after his death. What a shame.
He was my favorite character and the reason I tuned in, his death was blindsiding especially when he was the core of the show.
Yeah his death just ruined the show for me I couldn’t bring myself to watch it anymore
I was really salty when bro died. It was Carl all over again.
I am a recovering drug addict and i loved seeing someone like me on the show! He killed the role. Fear truly died with him;(
They really had the opportunity to show how a group becomes the villains of this world. Nick and the mom would have been great
It's really saddening how hard this show fell off after season 3. They killed a show that did really i think have such good potential. This wasn't the only mistake made in season 4 and beyond with this show, to abandoning entire plot lines and so much more; it was mostly due to the change in the showrunners, I swear the new showrunners didn't even watch the first 3 seasons or understand the show at all.
Still not over this death, I 100% agree
So, I am a recovering heroin addict myself here in NYC, been clean now for about 10 years. I say "About" due to the fact I am not one to have those to have a celebratory sobriety dates . I also lived in MANY squats here. When this show first opened up and it shows nick waking up, I look to my girlfriend who I've been with for over 14 years now and lived the exact same life as me and we got clean the same time and are still together, I looked over at her and jokingly said "Dude looks like an addict, kicking it in a squat" before he even left the room. I saw him laying down, saw the water jug and the random places people will decide that for what ever reason, would make a good sleeping area. And sure enough, turned out to be an abandon church.
Never have I seen something capture addict street culture when it came to squatting almost to a 'T' even if it was only a tiny glimpse. Someone really did their homework.
Totally agree with you. Why they didn’t use fear the walking dead as a whisperers origin series, I’ll never know
Nick for ftwd is what Tyrion Lannister was for got not in a sense that they are similar but that they ground the show and create a depth that makes the viewer wanting to watch bc of those characters.
Nick was the core of Fear the walking dead. I hate how they killed him off in such a dumb way. I completely agree with you. The show started with him and should have ended with him in my opinion especially to show his growth/ development in the zombie apocalypse. Season 1-3 was my favorites the other ones are just another spin off to me called the Morgan Saga😂 but thank you for posting this video!
I’m glad you enjoyed. I 100% agree watching Nick was so compelling
I really really enjoyed the Dynamics bwtween Nick and Troy. They were definitly my favorites of the characters early on. John Dorey Jr was good too, but look where that got him.
I loved john Dorey's character, i feel he was killed off way to cavilier. Like imagine Rick meeting him theyd have such interesting interactions and his death felt so cheap :/
@@DeagleGamesTV Exactly!
without Nick i dont even think theres a point of continuing watching ftwd anymore, i will still probably watch it just for the sake of watching it but jesus damn you Gimple
You can understand killing off Interesting and complex characters when the plot requires it but fear had the worst timing they killed chris off to build up travis to be a leader, ruthless warrior of the apocalypse and protect his family over his own life and that’s why Chris was killed but then killing him off 2 episodes into a season where he had a planned death that was so much more impactful and really did make sense to his character was a wrong decision. Same with Jake and Troy in s3 they killed off the two great additions, obviously Jake was killed to build Troy up to not have a leash or someone to reel him in anymore but then killing Troy off because they were afraid of how his character would be butchered in later seasons which then adds more depth to the story arch or nick and madison and the path they were going down in the apocalypse just for nick to be killed off 4 episodes later and madison to basically be killed off 8 episodes later. They can try to retcon it all they want but fear had amazing characters and actors for the first 3 seasons and they wasted each and everyone of them until we were left with Morgan Alicia and co. The show lost itself with its characters as fear was never a plot driven show but a show driven through characters experiencing the world around them it was how they felt and evolved and became who they were in the world and they killed it
Only ever watched the first episode of Fear but always kept up to date with it through Spoilers. Fully annoyed me when they killed off Travis (great vid btw!)and Nick so early into both of the seasons they died in. Still baffled on how Troy survived being bludgeoned with a hammer, being next to an explosion and being carried underwater by a strong current whilst unconscious....
LITERALLY, How is that man alive WTF 😭😭😭
Nick was the face of FTWD. Its sad he wasn't happy & wanted to leave. I looked him up on IMDB & he hasn't had many projects since then. I wonder if he regrets leaving.
Cause of the previous showrunners firing and the ones that replaced them didn't brush up on the previous material. Plus their riding sucked.
Couldn’t agree more, this is a great series of videos along with your Travis breakdown
Thanks man, I will keep up the FTWD content!
I wasn't initially sold on FTWD. I wanted to love it more than the show deserved (if that made sense). By season 2-3 the show really picked up but with the death of Travis and then the loss of Nick later I completely checked out. They were the two most compelling characters on the show and without them I lost all interest. Another great video!
This series for me should have always just been the movie about what happened the first day. The first season of “Fear” was all that was ever worth investing in and should have been a one off
Bro you are Litteraly the only TH-camrs saying what we twd fans have BEEN THINKING. Keep making these fear videos bro there’s legit not a single one besides you making this fire fear content!
Since even before the walking dead came out I wanted to hear a story about how a drug addict would have adjusted to an apocalypse, and I loved that line about how he's been surviving like this and everyone is catching up to him
After his death I didn’t even tune into the next episode I just shut the tv off and haven’t seen another episode since. Fear was only good from season 1 up to his death. His death LITERALLY killed the series
I worked Fear and I know Frank was the one who wanted to leave. He wanted to go work on movies and asked to be killed off the show.
After travis it was poopy but after nick i was gutted
Exactly how I felt as well :(
Same. I really miss this show. 😢
@@theohuntt rip Nick and John:( my 2 favs
Yes, you had now covered the video on Nick. Was looking forward to that. Just finished watching the video and I agree with you about Nick. Nick’s death also had killed the show for me as well.
Edit: fix grammar
Hahaha I’m glad you enjoyed it! What video would you like to see next?
@@theohuntt Next one could be good to cover how Troy coming back doesn't make sense and why it doesn't help with the plot but created more plot holes.
Troy survived two hammer strikes and being blown up 😂😂
I also hated the time jump. There was so much development in season 3 and then it just jumped ahead a year. I also didn't like the future/past presentation. I tried watching several times after Nick's death but i couldn't. I also really hated Morgan. He was my least favorite character in walking dead and his presence just ruined Fear. "I lose people and then I lose myself." Stupidest line of all. So many characters had similar reactions to the new world. Morgan droning on about this was so lame.
Yeah the time jump was so confusing and just felt like they were running out of ideas of what to do to the of cast of fear
I didn't mind the time jump I hated how Fear turned into The Morgan Show and devolved all of the character building it did w/ the original Fear cast.
Morgan was awesome, I agree that his presence in Fear was pointless but I loved him in the main show. Clear was one of the greatest episodes and he was very entertaining to watch in action. Not to mention his reasoning for wanting to be a pacifist or why he would lose his mind made a lot of sense. There’s definitely truth to that quote, there’s so many worse lines of dialogue in the waking dead universe than that. Besides there’s a difference between losing people you care about and feeling responsible for the deaths of people you care about as well as having hundreds of innocent peoples blood on your hands because of an inability to control yourself. Morgan explored these themes better than most other characters.
I...what the heck. I stopped watching the show a long time ago, but Nick was the freaking main and I really imagined him against his mom at the show final. it just made sense! freaking Gimple,man. ruining everything 🤦🏻♀️
Nick dynamics are awesome, he was written like he´s the main character of the show
Beautiful analysis. Subbed, keep it up!
Thank you so much it means a lot!!!
Gimple, Ian and Andrew were the worst things to happen to FearTWD, they just sidelined/ killed off the original cast so Morgan, Dwight, Sherry and new characters can take over. I just assume that Season 3 was the finale, Nick died at the dam, the others eventually find each other and live out their lives safe from Gimple
Completed the season 8 today, 6 year before when i started watching this i was a student and loved the nick i cried on his death…my eyes got water everytime i heard the name nick in the show..
Keep up these great vids. Good points made 👍
Nick was the most engaging character in the show. Troy was awesome. Adding Morgan to anything is pretty much the death of it.
Morgan was one of the best characters in the main show. The cast of Fear was going to be killed off when they did regardless of Morgan’s presence.
He was the ultimate underdog story. Seeing an individual who was completely not built for this world but be set free and even thrive. being valued and respected by others. He may not have started a child but we watched him grow more than others in a way that made sense.
My favorite character in all tv series, thanks fore this video fron Italy❤
Thank you so much i feel the same way RIP Nick :(
Completely agree. And I’ve always said, if they had to kill him, why not in the big emotional climatic moment where he stays behind on the dam for his family to escape? Instead of a throwaway garbage death in a random filler episode only a few episodes later. Nick was the backbone of the show and deserved so much better than to go out like that.
Such a cool video! Even though I barely watched FTWD I was so invested in this.
P.S. what is the name of the background song btw😭 it’s so lovely
Thank you so much for the lovely comment, the song is Winter goodbye and can be found on pixarbay music. :)
5:12 Imagine someone not trust you so much with a show that they would rather kill characters than have you mess them up
The series the Walking Dead died for me in Season 2 and it was clear the tv network was only dragging the story out that only lead to an anti climax.
I’m very glad I never continued watching it.
The conversation between Nick and Madison in that room Strand hid them in during the Proctors storyline was some of the best acting in this series! I could see how they could develop Madison into a villain due to some of her choices from S2 onward.
You realyy nailed it with this video. FTWD season 1 - 3 was a really good show and in my opinion, was better than the main show, especially season 3. The shame became total garbage after that - I remember watching (half paying attention to) the final season and then re-watching season 1 to 3 and they're like totally different shows. I really wish they had kept the original writer as I think that seasons 4 to 7 would've been very different (and GOOD).
I know what you mean about Nick's character in that the downfall of society basically saved him and broke his addiction. It's very relatable in so many ways as were the rest of the family - they had various issues like any family but to see them adapt and down whatever they had to to survive from the very start of the outbreak was something I'd wanted to see since the main show started.
Cool video. I like your thought process. This was pretty interesting.
Gave you a new sub and I’ll be checking out the rest of your library.
Nick was the absolute best character in my opinion as well. They never should’ve killed off his character like that. I understand the actor wanted to leave the show at that point so there was no getting around it. I just feel that the way they did it really put the nail in the coffin for me. People cried because no one wanted Nick to die not because they did it in some poetically sad/great way. They could’ve put way more effort and thought into how they did it. It may have even been able to push the story forward if they’d done it in a clever or meaningful way. But…..nope! We get an obnoxious kid who mostly everyone hates just walk up and pop him out of nowhere. I hated that more than anything.
It’s really sad how a really great show that so many love can be absolutely destroyed by one idiot’s terrible idea and lack of vision.
Thanks man! And yeah I agree Nicks death could have been done so much better :/
Why does Nick remind me of Johnny Depp every time I look at him
Aye, I completely agree with this essay, The death of Nick removed the heart of the show, I continued watching & it never again reached the heights attained by having him in it, they lost that little bit of magic.
FTWD died after the first season when they basically decided to skip over the entire premise that the show was sold on.
Biggest bait and switch show I’ve ever watched.
I disagree seasons 2 and 3 are fantastic
It lowkey breaks my heart how wrong this show got done. After the first 3 seasons, I truly believed this show was going to be better then the main show. How wrong I was. Nick was such a relatable character, the most relatable, to me, in the whole walking dead universe. I'll forever be sad about how this show got done. It is what it is, though.
When Nick died is exactly when I stopped watching. He was so good.
When an actor takes the lead role, or any important role, in a potentially long running series, they should be more commited to that role.
We are invested in a good story, just for it to go South when the main character has to be killed off because the actor got bored of the role. Imagine if Bryan Cranston abandoned his role as Walter White in Breaking Bad by the end of season 3. What a robbery that would have been!
He didn't leave because he was bored with the role. He left because the showrunner changed and the direction of the story went totally sideways. If Dave Erickson hadn't been fired and stayed on as showrunner, I have no doubt Frank Dillane would've stayed.
bro im on start of season 3 rn and i dont know whether to be glad or mad that you spoiled me with that title, at least now im prepared for his death, hes my fave character in ftwd T-T
The decline of walking dead shows can be summarized as the writers killing off the wrong characters.
The whole reason I started fear the walking dead after finishing the main show was because I wanted to see Morgan, but along the way watching the first 3 season I started liking nick a lot, and at the beginning of season 4 where Morgan is trying to help nick get over his moms death I thought it was amazing seeing these 2 characters talk, then moments later he died and I stopped watching the show
I love the idea that the actor pulled a Dale. Mad repsect.
Yeah I peaced out at the end of this season. Getting rid of Kim Dickens was the last straw for me. They basically just ended one show and started a new one.
This death was the FTWD's Carl's death. After both, I quit watching.
Me and my mum stopped watching as soon as nick died, with no Travis, Troy, or nick I just didn’t see a point in watching
He was very well done I was annoyed at him for most of season one and by the time he died he was my character fav in the show. Wonderfully portrayed and written.
While Fear wasn't game changing it had its own charm with its own characters and dynamics sadly it just turned to shit and all the likeable and complex charcters were turned into jokes and thrown to the sidelines,great video!
Great niche content. Rewatching the show right now, but only for the first 3 and a half seasons. Man I would kill to see the full series made by the writer of the first 3 seasons, just give him the cast that was there at the ending of season 3 and do a new final season, an alternate timeline. Not even hating too hard against the rest of the seasons (besides 7 and first half of 8, those were pretty stinky imo) but the show was straight up cinema in the first 3
For real! That would be so sick to see it would have been amazing at points I feel like FTWD was better than the main show that’s how good it was in it’s peak!
@@theohuntt yeah agreed for the most part. Like top FTWD moment is higher than top TWD moments imo. I think TWD managed like a higher consistency, but man, Nick blowing up the dam and Travis lashing out at those 2 guys in the hotel, those 2 moments are historical. Only like Rick's "death" scene is on the same level for me personally. And the writing of Nick is like top notch. Nick is like the most well written character PERIOD. I have watched a lot of TV in my time but nobody is as interesting of a character to me as Nick is
Nicks death was upsetting but what made the show hard to watch for me was John dories death. i still continued watching because i liked that Morgan got a bigger part in the walking dead universe but not gonna lie at that point it wasnt even fear the walking dead anymore. similar to the spin offs with maggie, negan, daryl, michonne, and rick it just became a side story for morgan after the events of the main show.
Getting erikson was the beginning of the end. The actor left because since erikson left,, the storh would have changed and he dud not sign up for that. He saw it would be pointless to stay away from home if he didnt get to play out the story he signed up for.
I'd put Season 3 of FTWD from the Ranch to the Proctors storyline up against any season of TWD. Nick and the entire cast were at their best!
It makes me wonder what Troy’s fate would’ve been if Madison was supposed to be the villain in the original script.
I really wish somehow some way we can see what FTWD was supposed to be but I know it'll never happen. The show had the possibility to become a must watch like breaking bad or TWD, it truly did but what we're left with is so soulless and sad. I'm still planning to finish FTWD because I hate not finishing a show but damn, it's tough knowing what could've been.
Watching Morgan's sanctimonious pious bullshit episode after episode is what killed Fear.
Yessss we get it, you don't kill.
Oh i wonder what this weeks episode... oh its Morgan doesn't kill again.
And next weeks episode... Morgan... and... he... doesnt kill again.
And again
And again.
We get it. The writers just wanted to shove it down our throats so much, it killed my enjoyment of the show
Loved Morgan in the main show but yes this got tiresome eventually.
@@lukefitton7329 the showrunners ruined his character. Blame Scott gimple
Loving the FTWD videos, hope to see more!
I was thinking of doing one on the relationship of Troy and Nick what do you think?
@@theohuntt Oh that sounds awesome
@@theohunttYoo that's a dope idea, those 2 characters were the best part of fear, I'll definitely be there for that video
Keep it up Theo Hunt
Those first two seasons were so good man. Rip to travis and nick
Gimple needs to either go back to doing cartoons or leave television as a whole because causing the death of two major characters is unacceptable.
He was THE main character until they killed him off. He was like the heart of the show.
Granted for the most part I think Fear was better than TWD after Rick left but it had it's issues getting rid of the most loved characters. Morgan coming on the show saved the shit out of the show.
I agree with much of what you say. However Nick was not the main character. The main character for seasons 1-4a and 8b is Madison. She’s even the first credited.
Wow the original plan for the 7 seasons would have knocked TWD out of the park. Especially as it would have happened as TWD disappeared up it’s own bottom. What a shame we never got such a great story!
4:50 noooo that plan sounds amazing im so mad we didnt get that :(((
The show really started becoming something with Season 3, how badly it fucking fumbled every time it got goodm
Ironically I thought he was easily the worst and least interesting character in the series. The series as a whole was a trainwreck and we gave up after season 1. I’ll admit the transition was abrupt, but turning this into the Morgan Show saved it
Literally him, the hispanic guy, and the black guy was the only reason I liked the show in terms of the characters.
I see a lot of videos about how Nicks death ruined/killed the show. It really isnt Nicks death that killed the show, it was the sacking of Dave Erickson. No Erickson, no Fear. Nothing past s3 exists in my mind.
That would have been a good show if it stayed that way i cried when Nick died too it was dramatic you remember the moment even without showing it
When you say nick is the fear of the walking dead, damn I cant agree more, the whole plot change from season 3 to season 4 still pissed me off so much, from greatest of season 3 to watching season 4 thinking what am I even watching
I agree… and I hated Charlie til the cancer got her 😢
Yo my cannon is
FTD 1-3
And the walking dead 1-6
Head cannon is they lived happily ever after in the stadium and Alexandria ….
Damn Scott Gimple for destroying a show with immaculate potential
The show died the moment the network brought in new show runners in season 4 that quickly began copying and mimicking the walking dead the push to connect the two shows is what killed it. The shift from vibrant and colorful cinematography to dark and dreary tones in season 4, was terrible.
This is something I wish AMC/kirkman would get. It’s understandable to have some serious character deaths in a series but there is a line. Glenn was the line. Glenn died in the comics and yes it was painful as f but it still added to the show. But killing Carl? Nick? Removing Rick? Why the f am I still watching?
it is insane how real and good that show used to be
I loved nick and hated that ally lived longer than him,love the video and agree with ya.
The show had so much potential and completely wasted it.
Yeah I just full stopped on watching the show as soon as he was dead, I watched a few eps after his death for the flashbacks but I knew it was over.
Nicks death was definitely a punch in the gut. But i feel Madisons " death " is what killed the show
Kinda shit how so many character die unnecessarily just becuase of outside reasons
Carl, Travis, Nick.
What sucks the most is that to all these deaths there is no build up or good reason for them. It's just like, oops now they're dead
I thought nick and chris would of made a great duo. I would of like seeing them on screen together becoming close like real brothers. They were opposites too, nick being carefree and chris being angst, it would had very interesting to see that.