Watch these to understand the transpositions from the Max Lange Defense: Introduction to the Vienna: th-cam.com/video/FV67KSxkJQw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=l7b2_ZrDnX46hFZa Video on the Bc4 Vienna: Stanley Variation: th-cam.com/video/VW4gijHeJds/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kQRxbMG9wLYpOmWz Video on the g3 Vienna: Mieses Variation: th-cam.com/video/pj--06rHH5Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KrTchaaZbnIHfAVP Vienna Gambit: th-cam.com/video/NKeSyWouCPc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mSqQNUNjcpridYE5 The full Max lange Defense study in PGN format with all the variations shown is available on www.patreon.com/hangingpawns
Great explanations for the Qg4 line. Even though I had all this memorized (based on a video by a certain levy rozman) your notes certainly furthered my understanding. In real games I still sometimes get in trouble against tactically strong players though, but oh well :-)
One last remark. Against the Mieses Variation 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.g3 Black's most important option is d5. After 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 Nf6 White prevents it with 4.Bg2. This may be an argument against 2...Nc6.
Ooo, still hot from the oven! Good luck and have fun in your games. i have really appreciated how thorough your videos are -- they have been quite helpful :D
this variation with Qxf2 is insane and part of the reason why i like to play the vienna game. objectively slightly better for white but practically white does extremely well.
Cool tips. I just badly screwed up a Max Lange with C4 and C5 bishops, and thought id educate myself a bit! Btw, you played my son in round 1 in Villard this year 😀
In your other video about the Vienna-Bishop's Game Hybrid you mentioned the Steinitz Variation 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.d3 Nc6 4.Nc3 Na5 and gave 5.Nge2 Nxc4 etc. Black doesn't need to take immediately though: Bc5 6.O-O O-O and only after 7.a3 or 7.a4 Black plays Nxc4. In such closed positions the loss of a tempo is not a big deal. It means though that Black equalizes with even more ease.
I've been playing 3. F4 against the Max Lange, and I've been getting crushed. Thanks for your analysis and help explaining the positions that arise from such bad moves 😂
One of the weapons I like against the Mieses Variation is the Erben Gambit (3... d5 followed by 4... c6, and possibly even 5... Bc5 after that if 5. dxc6-similar to a Danish or Pickler gambit). It just isn't playable from within the Max Lange Defense because of the night on c6, so that's why I consider Falkbeer to be the critical response to the Vienna. I suppose the Anderssen Defense is fine too; it avoids the Vienna Gambit at the expense of allowing a reversed Calabrese Countergambit, but otherwise it transposes with the Falkbeer on the next move if black plays correctly.
There are interesting lines, after 3 bishop c4, black can play 3. f5, Some form of Schliemann defence. But in this case the bishop is on c4 instead of b5. After 4 e3, and 4 knight f6. White can take on f5. A forcing line, And after d5 knight takes on d5 piece sac. Knight takes d5, Queen h5 check. King e7. And bishop g5 check, Knight f6. White sacrificed a piece, but black really has problems getting their king in safety and getting their pieces in play. You also took some central pawns. CPU says equal, but its very hard to play for black.
Fun detail: Quaade was a Dutch (not Danish) amateur nobody knows, not even we Dutch from the 19th Century. Modern spelling is Kwade, which means Angry.
Your suggestion 7.f5 also solves a King's Gambit issue: 1.e4 e5 2.f4 Bc5 3.Nc3 (4.Nf3 d5!? is surprisingly nasty) d6 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.Bb5 (5.Bc4 Bg4! has been played by WCh Smyslov; White has nothing) Nge7 6.d3 Bg4 7.f5.
If it only were the crazy stuff in the Quaade Gambit ... Black has a safe option with 5.g3 Bg7! (recommended by IM Tait) 6.d4 d6 7.d5 Ne5 8.gxf4 gxf4 9.Bxf4 Bg4. Compare with 5.d4? d6 - White has wasted a tempo with g2-g3. This is my reason to stay away from the Quaade Gambit.
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Watch these to understand the transpositions from the Max Lange Defense:
Introduction to the Vienna: th-cam.com/video/FV67KSxkJQw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=l7b2_ZrDnX46hFZa
Video on the Bc4 Vienna: Stanley Variation: th-cam.com/video/VW4gijHeJds/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kQRxbMG9wLYpOmWz
Video on the g3 Vienna: Mieses Variation: th-cam.com/video/pj--06rHH5Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KrTchaaZbnIHfAVP
Vienna Gambit: th-cam.com/video/NKeSyWouCPc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mSqQNUNjcpridYE5
The full Max lange Defense study in PGN format with all the variations shown is available on www.patreon.com/hangingpawns
I love you're doing the vienna! I play the mieses variation, but dabble with others and it's really nice to get an overview of everything.
hello sir. I was watching your Vienna opening's videos, and then this popped up!
14:58 I love this. Admitting how scary this looks. Left a like, love the videos
Great explanations for the Qg4 line. Even though I had all this memorized (based on a video by a certain levy rozman) your notes certainly furthered my understanding. In real games I still sometimes get in trouble against tactically strong players though, but oh well :-)
One last remark. Against the Mieses Variation 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.g3 Black's most important option is d5. After 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 Nf6 White prevents it with 4.Bg2. This may be an argument against 2...Nc6.
Ooo, still hot from the oven! Good luck and have fun in your games. i have really appreciated how thorough your videos are -- they have been quite helpful :D
this variation with Qxf2 is insane and part of the reason why i like to play the vienna game. objectively slightly better for white but practically white does extremely well.
Hi Stephen, love the videos! I really hope that you stream more often, maybe some viewer games
Cool tips. I just badly screwed up a Max Lange with C4 and C5 bishops, and thought id educate myself a bit! Btw, you played my son in round 1 in Villard this year 😀
The Super educative hanging pawns!!!!!
Very succinct and topical analysis!
In your other video about the Vienna-Bishop's Game Hybrid you mentioned the Steinitz Variation 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.d3 Nc6 4.Nc3 Na5 and gave 5.Nge2 Nxc4 etc. Black doesn't need to take immediately though: Bc5 6.O-O O-O and only after 7.a3 or 7.a4 Black plays Nxc4. In such closed positions the loss of a tempo is not a big deal. It means though that Black equalizes with even more ease.
I've been playing 3. F4 against the Max Lange, and I've been getting crushed. Thanks for your analysis and help explaining the positions that arise from such bad moves 😂
One of the weapons I like against the Mieses Variation is the Erben Gambit (3... d5 followed by 4... c6, and possibly even 5... Bc5 after that if 5. dxc6-similar to a Danish or Pickler gambit). It just isn't playable from within the Max Lange Defense because of the night on c6, so that's why I consider Falkbeer to be the critical response to the Vienna. I suppose the Anderssen Defense is fine too; it avoids the Vienna Gambit at the expense of allowing a reversed Calabrese Countergambit, but otherwise it transposes with the Falkbeer on the next move if black plays correctly.
There are interesting lines, after 3 bishop c4, black can play 3. f5, Some form of Schliemann defence. But in this case the bishop is on c4 instead of b5.
After 4 e3, and 4 knight f6. White can take on f5. A forcing line, And after d5 knight takes on d5 piece sac. Knight takes d5, Queen h5 check. King e7. And bishop g5 check, Knight f6. White sacrificed a piece, but black really has problems getting their king in safety and getting their pieces in play. You also took some central pawns. CPU says equal, but its very hard to play for black.
23:02 😅🤪😜 I prefer playing against *Hanging Pawns* (me too😅😜)
Fun detail: Quaade was a Dutch (not Danish) amateur nobody knows, not even we Dutch from the 19th Century. Modern spelling is Kwade, which means Angry.
Your suggestion 7.f5 also solves a King's Gambit issue: 1.e4 e5 2.f4 Bc5 3.Nc3 (4.Nf3 d5!? is surprisingly nasty) d6 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.Bb5 (5.Bc4 Bg4! has been played by WCh Smyslov; White has nothing) Nge7 6.d3 Bg4 7.f5.
You can teach us the king's Indian attack , please 🙏!!
studyng the main line and the variations right now i encountered an opponent who plays this
If it only were the crazy stuff in the Quaade Gambit ... Black has a safe option with 5.g3 Bg7! (recommended by IM Tait) 6.d4 d6 7.d5 Ne5 8.gxf4 gxf4 9.Bxf4 Bg4. Compare with 5.d4? d6 - White has wasted a tempo with g2-g3. This is my reason to stay away from the Quaade Gambit.
Why people don’t show the max lange from the Black side smh everybody always showing from white POV like that’s the only side people play with