One thing never talked about is actual ground clearance with a rider on it. I have a 21 850xt max and I was totally shocked by how low it is. I have the preload turned all the way up with the recommended 10psi in the tires and it still grinds over rocks that it shouldn't. I'm about 240 lbs and I have to pick lines very carefully in the rocky terrain we ride in.
I bought a 2021 Canam 850 xlt max Outlander. I love it so much. mine came with a tool kit that was In the back storage area look at the top left side of box they should be on their.
One more thing I do love my 650 but one thing was the ride height seemed a little low so I bought some coil spacers to lift it up a bit noticeably higher a little stiffer of a ride but in my opinion well worth it.
Just recently sold my 2015 650 Max XT and absolutely loved it. Mine came with the storage box to fit in the void when the back seat was off. 99% of the time I kept it on the front rack. It is a great little storage box. Best ATV I have ever owned and sold it to one of my neighbors. It did get hot during the summer months on the left side but I just moved my leg out a little bit and it was fine. Only reason I sold it was because I bought a 2023 Defender Max Limited side by side.
Hopefully the 650 comes back, is was probably the best value atv without buying a CFmoto. It was priced like a Japanese 700 class but has waaaaay more power. It is still offered in the Renegade I believe.
I ride a 2020 650 xt max with my gf, love it, i ride with power hungry people that have 850-1000 machines… they never got away from me, trails are not race tracks
I have an older 800 Max and it absolutely puts out some heat, especially in the AZ summer. Solution is always wear a 8" or taller boot and it's not a problem. Shoes are a no go even with pants on. Best to wear boots anyways so not an issue for myself and never a problem for the passenger.
The reason why they produce a lot of heat is because they are extremely lean from factory to meet California emissions. A flash tune fixes that by adjusting the air/fuel ratio, at the same time, you can set the rad fan kick on temp (my outlander 650 never goes higher than 94°C). On top of that, you’ll gain performance since its no longer starving for more fuel and runs significantly cooler. Other benefits from a tune is that it will remove limiters, and reverse override if you wanted too. A cooler engine is a happier, more dependable engine 👍. Only downside to a tune is you lose a bit of fuel range but that’s a trade off I’ll take any day, and I just bring a jerry can with me anyways. With a tune, I can run all day in a hot summer day without taking a break, when before I would get “high temp” on the dash all the time and it would sometimes go into limp mode (overheated).
@@rzl07375 I got mine tuned at a local shop in the Sudbury area, there’s websites like Monster Efi and if you have the fly by wire throttle, then you can use the dynojet PV3 that’s basically plug and play.
If i was buying another atv it would be a max. They just make so much sense to be able to carry a passenger or take the seat off and ride solo and in my opinion look close to a single seat. Yes i know there is more weight and higher price but still better than a whole other machine.
@@dirttraxtv all I have ever owned is a 2006 and 2009 Honda Rubicon 500s with shaft so im assuming the comfort and power of the 650 6x6 will blow my mind lol
Regarding the heat - Mine doesn't break into 3 digits (Celsius) regardless of the season. I trail ride, hunt, use as utility at camp and winter ride/plow. While i most definitely feel the warmth on my legs during the summer months, i have my cluster set to see the temp and haven't had an issue. I have a 2021 850 Max XT
I have a 2020 650 XT max.. Looks identical.. The little storage box that replaces the seat "used to be" included but they now sell it as an extra.. The funny part is, if they didn't change it since I looked, it's still a "part" in the part catalog and you can't find it in the accessory catalogue... Oh and mine did in fact come with a tool roll :) ... Thanks for the videos!
My 1000 XT-P Max gets very hot especially on the right side. Changing oil is a pain! Ton of power .. way more than I need. Was after an 800 but if the pandemic taught us anything it isn’t what you want but what a dealer had!
Good review and I can confirm it is a great machine. I am an owner of a 22' Outlander 650 XT(non-Max version). For the first warm season(I'm in Ottawa), it's done me well. Just over 54hrs/1100 kms so far. The 650 is an awesome engine for the riding I do (strictly trails hence buying the XT model). Also half the price on insurance comapred to the 850. I can say it does run on the hotter side during the hot summer months, riding in slow technical trails for an exxtended period of time. I've had a fuel pump fuse blow once, I believe, because of the excessive heat after a long slow riding trail. The saddle was very warm to sit on during that ride from the exhaust underneath. My understanding is the factory leans out the fuel mapping to pass emissions. I'll be getting a proper tune before the spring. I've upgraded the shocks to Stage 3 Elka's and that emmensly improved the riding and handling. It does come with a little tool kit but I've added quite a few more tools over the time I've owned it. Really do love the Terracross tires that came with it. Very capable in most conditions, even in the snow! Been out to Quebec for the first time this winter and they have great winter trails for ATV's/UTV's. So overall quite happy with it so far. Cheers!
can am v twins are smooth for sure i recomend them 🔥🔥🇺🇲 a 570 will pull a snowmobile throw 6 inches a fresh pow with no ease in 2wd right off a trailer
I’ve been high centered in sticky mud before due to the plastic skid plate. Machine couldn’t sink in to let the tires grip. Not sure it would have helped but I was looking for someone or something to blame other than myself for being in the situation! 😂
2022 650 dps. love it. way faster then 750 grizzly and king quad rides much better then king quad and more comfortable seating position then griz. coming from a king quad it’s definitely a bigger machine - only really bothered me once on a steep downhill washout. i wish can am made smaller bags for front/ rear rack
My Outlander Max 850 Came with a tool kit in the rear compartment stuffed up high and hard to see it in there. Yes it gets hot around the insides of your legs in warm weather. Ride with your legs to the outside of the machine and keep moving and you will be fine. Mine is the North Edition which may be better suited for cold weather riding and plowing.
I own the 850 Max XT myself. Your tool kits are up high left side rear compartment. Put the full aluminum skid. Does a great job. And she throws heat in the summer. But like you said it’s not unbearable just open those legs a little bit and catch a breeze. You’ll forget all about it. Added the heated grips , thumb warmer. bought mine in 2020. Covid couldn’t come at a better time in the woods mostly to myself. The wife and myself enjoy this quite a lot. Haul the beast around in a Enclosed aluminum trailer hauls my gear ,tools, clothes. Easy to move around single axle nice place to take a rest too on bad days. But the thought has come to mind. Side-by-side and a bigger trailer. Yes I’m going with another aluminum dual axles 20’. Not trying to jinx myself here never had a problem never change the belt. Got almost 2500 miles on it right now thinking about putting a new belt in before summer though I believe by the fall season she should be on the selling block. She never let us down what more can you say. Besides good luck to you.
Can Am makes the best quads hands down! I sure loved the one we had! And it’s not a big deal getting to the belt like he said. Maybe for him it would be but for most people it’s not a big deal!
i had the first year g2 2013 650 max xt and had zero issues but mileage was getting up there (11000km) so thinking that i still had the original belt and battery and dealer told me 2022 was last year of the 650 engine i decided to get a new one ....exactly the same as i had ...difference between new and old...new quad: new dash display which is different but has the same features as the old display,being wider (2inches)and a front swaybar made a huge difference on off camber and cornering,power steering is a bit easier,engine is quieter and not as warm on the legs (ive even welcomed the heat for fall hunting but it was never "hot"),suspension is smoother but i find it a bit too soft with 2 on it back end bottoms out easier than before with the older quad(that will be fixed) ....now seeing the new can am i was thrilled i bought the 2022 ...i wanted the rear ITS suspension as double a arm gives you less clearance underneath the lower control bar plus even looking at it looks flimsy compared to the bigger piping used on the ITS,2022 can am has a stainless steel exhaust as the new one(2023) is ordinary steel, i love the sound and power of a twin dont understand why they downgraded to a single(less powerful)....because its narrower ? width was never an issue before,also the single is a heavier quad...hopefully the new suspension is better, Dirt Trax a comparision on new and old can am should be done ! thanks!
I too would love comparison on 22 650 max vs new 700. I can’t decide if I should buy a just used one or new? Is the real world trail ride better on 700max?? People need to know dirt trax lol. Great videos keep them coming
My 22 xtp850 came with a tool kit. They don't come with a panel for the 2up seat spot while the seat is off, but they make a nice link storage case that's cheap and goes in that spot perfectly. The clutch cover (and oil change process) is unnecessarily complicated for sure... it would be nice if Canam considered that for future models. There are shortcuts for both that are easier than removing panels as you mentioned though. Overall I love mine! Something to keep in mind, 850s and lower run regular fuel not premium like the 1000. It seems like guys that run premium complain more about hot spots and hard starts in the winter. I drove mine a lot during hot summer days and didn't notice any heat issues.
I'd run premo anyways from top tier stations with no ethanol. I run 91 in all my toys - quads to boats Realistically how often is a belt changed, and further to that how often are guys actually having issues with it?
Be sure to put the storage box on if you dont keep the 2 up seat on. If your butt gets muddy and slippery, you can slide back into the void, and climbing a steep incline, you CAN FLIP IT, LIKE I DID.
My opinion on this machine is that when 2 are on it the suspension is way too soft. Add spacers on the bottom of the 4 coils, that is a cheap fix with a great ride improvement that you won't regret. Also, the belt on the clutch can be changed without removing the footwell, all you need is a flex 1/4'' socket. It does come with a tool kit but nothing to replace the passenger seat when removed. This is a great bike overall but servicing it could be improved quite a bit.
Have a 2022 650xt and it has been awesome,3800kms on it now and if I had to complain there are few things to say...1 is that the ground clearance does lack a bit as my previous 400 had more and never bottomed, the other thing is the power steering drops off way to much at higher speeds almost like its gone, gets annoying on long long trips...The ride is a little firm but it is a 4x4 for the bush not a cadillac ...
I’ve been looking at this machine for a few years now, but as soon as I was ready to buy one, the prices went out of control. I’m curious how the new 700 Max XT compares
I find the rear storage latch difficult to truly lock in. But, with the solo trail riding I'm planning on doing I simply filled it with the following "just in case" items, stuffing it full Hopefully I won't have to access these items at all. Push Rivet Removal Tool More "general" Tools Knife Tie-Wraps, Duct Tape, a couple of Rags Safety Wire TP & Hand Shovel Kitchen Trash Bags 1st Aid Kit Tire Plug Patch Kit Tow “snatch-em” Strap - Kinetic Energy Recovery Tow Rope Flashlight Battery Starter Jumper (In case the hand warmers get left on.) Tire Pressure Gauge Electric Tire Pump. (Not actually purchased yet.) Spare Fuses I've only had my 850 Outlander Max XT one month, so just have 210 break-in miles on it. When I mean break-in miles, It's been all county gravel roads that have quite steep hills and descents at various throttle positions and speeds. That's to load the engine, i.e. pressurize the cylinders to press the rings against the cylinder walls seating the rings. I've mostly been riding my machine over and over a five mile stretch. I'm pretty much done with that now and plan on more distance sight seeing touring rides. Another data point for those interested; I got 21 mpg doing that type of riding. I'm guessing it might get better as the engine breaks in and loosens up, plus riding less steep terrain.
On a 570 XU-22, you do not need to remove the footrest to access the belt but it is a little fiddly to get the lower belt cover bolts out AND, especially if there are skid plates mounted, you do not want to drop those bolts.
the max units had the box on the older models around 2017. I asked the dealer and they stopped including them but wasn't sure what year, the accessory book also shows it doesn't fit the newer machines. I ordered one of the boxes that would have came with the older units to see if it will work on the newer ones though because i like the look/size of the box. and my 2023 came with a tool kit. it's supposed to be in the trunk on the max. i had to go back to the dealer they forgot to put it in when i picked it up.
Was planing to buy a 650 only to have my heart broke at the dealer. I tryed out one of the new 700s but wasnt a fan dont realy feel like i need a 850 so back to shopping around again
Very nice! I'm very tempted by the 650 Can-Am, I've been hunting down a Kodiak 700 but they seem to be incredibly hard to find on the showroom floor since last summer at least. Only thing is I'm not a fan of Visco-4lok, I don't care for how it's speed/RPM sensitive and seems to be tuned best for mudding which is definitely fun but I'll be using my ATV more for work scenarios. I've seen videos of people trying to get over logs and things at slow speed with the Visco-4lok and it seems to struggle until the throttle is hammered down enough to get it to engage. Otherwise I really would jump on a Can-Am, if I could have it my way I would have an 650 or 850 Outlander loaded to the nuts for mudding and a Kodiak 700 to do the work and delicate trail riding. Lol Great video!!
@@andrewsbbq I honestly couldn't say as I don't know anyone in person with it and TH-cam likely biased me towards the videos against it once I clicked one but I would be super happy to know that it is fully lockable!
@@JacobJustIts from what I read its fully lockable with the flip of a switch. But also automatic/limited slip for normal riding so you aren't fighting it when turning. I think it unlocks over a certain speed too (like 30mph or something). I read about it months ago so just going from memory, I might not have the facts 100%. But I am confident it can be fully locked
@@JacobJustIts my good buddy is looking at a 570 Outlander so I've been poking around some details here and there on them as I will likely be the one who ends up maintaining it are him haha
The 2022 no longer comes with the storage box even though the manual still shows it. My friend bought a 850XT and did not get it along with only one key. CanAm looking to save some money I guess. I have a 650 XT and love it. Wish it had the ride modes but I guess if it had it no one would need an 850:)
So my 2020 did not come with it stock. When I questioned them they ended up throwing in the cargo box. But it took a lot of convincing. They said only the xtp max comes with it or it’s an ad on
What's the break over of the max vs 1up. And I'd guess this won't go in a short bed half ton, likely just fits nice in a standard 6ft bed with gate down Really nice looking machine
I have the 1000 XT-P Max. It’s all my ‘21 Tundra w 5.5’ bed can handle. Wheel eel to whew well and front of bed to rear tires sitting solidly at end of tailgate. That is 950 lb plus the rider going over the tailgate which is my biggest worry!
@@BrickyardPowerMan 1000 is a big machine. 650 standard WB is only around 700lbs depending how it's optioned. And is something like 8-10" shorter than the 2up. My wife and I ride just fine on my 500 with Kimpex Nomad. I'd actually much prefer the Nomad over this skeleton 2up seat. Holds a 5L gas can, stows 2 full face helmets and room to spare, damn near water proof, and comfy with two backrest incline positions. My fenders gaurds have flip down metal foot pegs though too, can't imagine being a passenger with legs dangling and getting bashed around not being able to prop up and cushion yourself with your legs
We just got the 2023 Outlander 1000R XMR and it came with a tool box which is basically flush to the top of the seat. Came with a tool kit, but not great or overly worth it. We tend to put a tool roll together for all our off-road vehicles. Pricing is always deceiving because dealership fees etc etc. Our new machine with the tool box on the back with wet sound system was just under $25K CAD out the door.
Great video! I have a 2019 650 xt with 400km. When I'm on and off the throttle I get a knocking noise. Did you experience this with the 2022 version. And is this normal ? Any info would be great. Thanks
My 2020 came with a storage bin that goes where the seat goes. And when the seat is one the box can go on front of back racks. In 2019 they stopped giving them on max machines. But I insisted it be thrown in
My 570 max xt, only pet peeve is when plowing, the shocks just cannot handle the weight up front very well. An inch or two of clearance where the Plow connects.
...ok some realize you dont always need 1000cc- so powervise no problem- top speed not much difference too- i have a problem with the price- here in europe its between 13.000 to 18.000 euros and this is ridiculous- btw if u can get an arctic cat 700 trv- its nearly as powerful- much cheaper and less heat ;-)
Price is always going to play a role in your choice. I think the Outlander rides and handles much better than the Cat and I like the engine in the Outlander more. That's not to say the Cat isn't decent, just my experience with these two machines.
I have a 2022 650 Max. Love the Atv but I don't like how ridiculously loud the whine is when driving around 45 -55Km/hr. I'm in the process of changing the one way bearing and belt in the hope it fixes this deafening machine. Totally unacceptable at this price point.
Oh some think it has tons of power, not so, unless you drive tricycles! If your not afraid to pin it, by the Polaris 850, now there’s some power!! Also don’t leave the storage door open while it running for more than 4sec, or the exhaust burns a hole in it. Had it out with the manufacturer, they blew me off, even though I explained what a lousy design it was. Just under $50.00 for a new one.
I had a 21 xt 1 up and gotta say I did not like the power steering I thought it was very numb in all 3 options .. The shocks are terrible in a bike priced that high and wished I had of known that at the time .. I beat the under body and frame to crap and bottomed out everywhere and I’m 205 pounds and I do not drive like a mad man … another thing that I did not like is that can am doesn’t extend the skid plate past the rear diff I don’t get that my frame was damaged pretty bad under the diff errrr .. anyway I traded it in for a 22 grizzly yes I know it doesn’t have the vtwin power but I find clutching way better and the power steering is the way it should be in my opinion .. and I can do oil and diffs in 30 min or less .. I wanted to like the outlander and it is a great bike but just not for me .. high maintenance atv .. great job as always and been watching you guys forever now biggest fan
Thanks for the kind words. Gotta be honest, the Grizzly is my favourite ATV, followed by the Outlander so if you're happy with your Grizz you got a good machine in my opinion.
I recently bought a 2020 Outlander 650xt with 129 miles on it. My first time out on it I was pulling a ATV brush hog behind it and thing were great until the engine power dwindled down then died. I spent half and hour trying to diagnose and restart it to no-avail. I took it back to the dealer where it was found that the ignition fuse had blown ( little 5amp fuse). I took it out again the following week to continue mowing and after an hour the same thing happens. I pull the coverings off to get to the fuse box and once in I remove the fuse that had blown the week before to inspect it, it was fine. Just for *hits and giggles is pull the next fuse over which was a 5amp also and find it was blown. That fuse was for the fuel pump. Once I replaced that it fired right up and has been running since. Has anyone else encountered this type of issue on a machine that is pretty much brand new?????????
Yep mine died while hunting this fall on my 2022 650 and it was the fuse for the fuel pump...went to see dealer and he checked the parts book and he said there was a new redesigned fuel pump relay $22.00 for those ATVs so I installed it in fuse box in front and did over 1000km and no problems since....kept the old relay for spare
@@dirttraxtv of course the rest of the world has had the renegade 650 as an option for several years now. Even the 450 6x6. America doesn’t seem to get as many machine or accessory choices some other countries. It’s all market driven though
2018 Max Limited owner here. I believe Can Am discontinued the Air Suspension stuff in 2020. Only the max limited had it up to 2019 and just in the back, the front used standard shocks the same as the XT shown in this video. Starting 2020 they moved to QS3 all the way around in the Limited.
great advice for riders that ride alone - take a strap, I think anyone who is at all mechanical should take a extra belt. Doing a review and not even doing the research to tell viewers if the passenger seat area comes with a rack insert - Wow, talk about winging it.
What good is a tow strap going to be if you're riding alone??? Clearly said for getting a tow from your riding buddy. Take your morning dump, re-watch and I'll let you take another shot with the insults...
Don’t leave it running with the rear storage door down or the exhaust melts the corner off the rear door. Oh ya and Bombardier virtually told me sorry Charlie! As I told the useless &$@#% on the phone, it wasn’t my fault it’s piss poor French Design!! I’m pissed off!
It creates conversation, which is a HUGE component of connecting with our audience. I'd much rather humbly ask for and then read an owner's opinion than read a bunch of snarky BS comments from guys who aren't even interested in this machine but want to sound smart. Might just be me...
One thing never talked about is actual ground clearance with a rider on it. I have a 21 850xt max and I was totally shocked by how low it is. I have the preload turned all the way up with the recommended 10psi in the tires and it still grinds over rocks that it shouldn't. I'm about 240 lbs and I have to pick lines very carefully in the rocky terrain we ride in.
I bought a 2021 Canam 850 xlt max Outlander.
I love it so much.
mine came with a tool kit that was In the back storage area look at the top left side of box they should be on their.
i bought a brand new 2023 outlander max xt 650, here in spain can am still has them.. great machine,,,
One more thing I do love my 650 but one thing was the ride height seemed a little low so I bought some coil spacers to lift it up a bit noticeably higher a little stiffer of a ride but in my opinion well worth it.
love how you guys bring up the 650 rotax more then any other atv out there haha, its a awesome platform, loving mine more and more :)
Me 2 😎👍👊🍻
I’m glad I found one before they removed this motor.
Just recently sold my 2015 650 Max XT and absolutely loved it. Mine came with the storage box to fit in the void when the back seat was off. 99% of the time I kept it on the front rack. It is a great little storage box. Best ATV I have ever owned and sold it to one of my neighbors.
It did get hot during the summer months on the left side but I just moved my leg out a little bit and it was fine.
Only reason I sold it was because I bought a 2023 Defender Max Limited side by side.
Hopefully the 650 comes back, is was probably the best value atv without buying a CFmoto. It was priced like a Japanese 700 class but has waaaaay more power. It is still offered in the Renegade I believe.
I ride a 2020 650 xt max with my gf, love it, i ride with power hungry people that have 850-1000 machines… they never got away from me, trails are not race tracks
650 has such good power especially in the trails. Can keep up with most other machines.
I have an older 800 Max and it absolutely puts out some heat, especially in the AZ summer. Solution is always wear a 8" or taller boot and it's not a problem. Shoes are a no go even with pants on. Best to wear boots anyways so not an issue for myself and never a problem for the passenger.
The reason why they produce a lot of heat is because they are extremely lean from factory to meet California emissions. A flash tune fixes that by adjusting the air/fuel ratio, at the same time, you can set the rad fan kick on temp (my outlander 650 never goes higher than 94°C). On top of that, you’ll gain performance since its no longer starving for more fuel and runs significantly cooler. Other benefits from a tune is that it will remove limiters, and reverse override if you wanted too. A cooler engine is a happier, more dependable engine 👍. Only downside to a tune is you lose a bit of fuel range but that’s a trade off I’ll take any day, and I just bring a jerry can with me anyways. With a tune, I can run all day in a hot summer day without taking a break, when before I would get “high temp” on the dash all the time and it would sometimes go into limp mode (overheated).
What companies do a good flash on these?
@@rzl07375 I got mine tuned at a local shop in the Sudbury area, there’s websites like Monster Efi and if you have the fly by wire throttle, then you can use the dynojet PV3 that’s basically plug and play.
Thanks
@Hammerheart (Dan) where did you go in sudbury thanks in advance
@@tylermcbride2807 DG Custom ATV. They are in Val Caron
If i was buying another atv it would be a max. They just make so much sense to be able to carry a passenger or take the seat off and ride solo and in my opinion look close to a single seat. Yes i know there is more weight and higher price but still better than a whole other machine.
Hey. great videos..I just ordered 2023 6x6 650 dps....i cant wait!!!
Sweet. I really want to try this machine out. Hoping we can get one come springtime.
@@dirttraxtv all I have ever owned is a 2006 and 2009 Honda Rubicon 500s with shaft so im assuming the comfort and power of the 650 6x6 will blow my mind lol
Regarding the heat -
Mine doesn't break into 3 digits (Celsius) regardless of the season. I trail ride, hunt, use as utility at camp and winter ride/plow. While i most definitely feel the warmth on my legs during the summer months, i have my cluster set to see the temp and haven't had an issue. I have a 2021 850 Max XT
I have a 2020 650 XT max.. Looks identical.. The little storage box that replaces the seat "used to be" included but they now sell it as an extra.. The funny part is, if they didn't change it since I looked, it's still a "part" in the part catalog and you can't find it in the accessory catalogue... Oh and mine did in fact come with a tool roll :) ... Thanks for the videos!
Thank you!
My 1000 XT-P Max gets very hot especially on the right side. Changing oil is a pain! Ton of power .. way more than I need. Was after an 800 but if the pandemic taught us anything it isn’t what you want but what a dealer had!
Wanted the Xtp but not willing to wait 9 months for one.
My 2022 850xt came with a small tool pack in the back trunk...upper left corner I believe. 🍻🇨🇦
Good review and I can confirm it is a great machine. I am an owner of a 22' Outlander 650 XT(non-Max version). For the first warm season(I'm in Ottawa), it's done me well. Just over 54hrs/1100 kms so far. The 650 is an awesome engine for the riding I do (strictly trails hence buying the XT model). Also half the price on insurance comapred to the 850. I can say it does run on the hotter side during the hot summer months, riding in slow technical trails for an exxtended period of time. I've had a fuel pump fuse blow once, I believe, because of the excessive heat after a long slow riding trail. The saddle was very warm to sit on during that ride from the exhaust underneath. My understanding is the factory leans out the fuel mapping to pass emissions. I'll be getting a proper tune before the spring. I've upgraded the shocks to Stage 3 Elka's and that emmensly improved the riding and handling. It does come with a little tool kit but I've added quite a few more tools over the time I've owned it. Really do love the Terracross tires that came with it. Very capable in most conditions, even in the snow! Been out to Quebec for the first time this winter and they have great winter trails for ATV's/UTV's. So overall quite happy with it so far. Cheers!
I bought an 2010 outlander 650 at a farm auction that the farmer harly rode, so it only has 1800 miles on it and it's still a strong machine
can am v twins are smooth for sure i recomend them 🔥🔥🇺🇲 a 570 will pull a snowmobile throw 6 inches a fresh pow with no ease in 2wd right off a trailer
I’ve been high centered in sticky mud before due to the plastic skid plate. Machine couldn’t sink in to let the tires grip. Not sure it would have helped but I was looking for someone or something to blame other than myself for being in the situation! 😂
2022 650 dps. love it. way faster then 750 grizzly and king quad rides much better then king quad and more comfortable seating position then griz. coming from a king quad it’s definitely a bigger machine - only really bothered me once on a steep downhill washout. i wish can am made smaller bags for front/ rear rack
I see people talking about how hot these machines get to the touch but I don't experience that myself either but I also wear my gear.
My Outlander Max 850 Came with a tool kit in the rear compartment stuffed up high and hard to see it in there. Yes it gets hot around the insides of your legs in warm weather. Ride with your legs to the outside of the machine and keep moving and you will be fine. Mine is the North Edition which may be better suited for cold weather riding and plowing.
Thanks for sharing!
I own the 850 Max XT myself. Your tool kits are up high left side rear compartment. Put the full aluminum skid. Does a great job. And she throws heat in the summer. But like you said it’s not unbearable just open those legs a little bit and catch a breeze. You’ll forget all about it. Added the heated grips , thumb warmer. bought mine in 2020. Covid couldn’t come at a better time in the woods mostly to myself. The wife and myself enjoy this quite a lot. Haul the beast around in a Enclosed aluminum trailer hauls my gear ,tools, clothes. Easy to move around single axle nice place to take a rest too on bad days. But the thought has come to mind. Side-by-side and a bigger trailer. Yes I’m going with another aluminum dual axles 20’. Not trying to jinx myself here never had a problem never change the belt. Got almost 2500 miles on it right now thinking about putting a new belt in before summer though I believe by the fall season she should be on the selling block. She never let us down what more can you say. Besides good luck to you.
@@stephencostello1483 Great feedback!! Thank you!!!
Can Am makes the best quads hands down! I sure loved the one we had! And it’s not a big deal getting to the belt like he said. Maybe for him it would be but for most people it’s not a big deal!
Didn't say it was impossible, just not a job for an amateur. Someone with some skill or experience could handle it. Thought I made that clear enough.
I have a 2007 and I love it
i had the first year g2 2013 650 max xt and had zero issues but mileage was getting up there (11000km) so thinking that i still had the original belt and battery and dealer told me 2022 was last year of the 650 engine i decided to get a new one ....exactly the same as i had ...difference between new and old...new quad: new dash display which is different but has the same features as the old display,being wider (2inches)and a front swaybar made a huge difference on off camber and cornering,power steering is a bit easier,engine is quieter and not as warm on the legs (ive even welcomed the heat for fall hunting but it was never "hot"),suspension is smoother but i find it a bit too soft with 2 on it back end bottoms out easier than before with the older quad(that will be fixed) ....now seeing the new can am i was thrilled i bought the 2022 ...i wanted the rear ITS suspension as double a arm gives you less clearance underneath the lower control bar plus even looking at it looks flimsy compared to the bigger piping used on the ITS,2022 can am has a stainless steel exhaust as the new one(2023) is ordinary steel, i love the sound and power of a twin dont understand why they downgraded to a single(less powerful)....because its narrower ? width was never an issue before,also the single is a heavier quad...hopefully the new suspension is better, Dirt Trax a comparision on new and old can am should be done ! thanks!
I too would love comparison on 22 650 max vs new 700. I can’t decide if I should buy a just used one or new? Is the real world trail ride better on 700max?? People need to know dirt trax lol. Great videos keep them coming
My 22 xtp850 came with a tool kit. They don't come with a panel for the 2up seat spot while the seat is off, but they make a nice link storage case that's cheap and goes in that spot perfectly. The clutch cover (and oil change process) is unnecessarily complicated for sure... it would be nice if Canam considered that for future models. There are shortcuts for both that are easier than removing panels as you mentioned though. Overall I love mine! Something to keep in mind, 850s and lower run regular fuel not premium like the 1000. It seems like guys that run premium complain more about hot spots and hard starts in the winter. I drove mine a lot during hot summer days and didn't notice any heat issues.
Thanks for your input! I would actually buy one of these myself. It is a great machine.
I'd run premo anyways from top tier stations with no ethanol. I run 91 in all my toys - quads to boats
Realistically how often is a belt changed, and further to that how often are guys actually having issues with it?
I also have a 22xtp and run 91. I've never had issues with cold starts. The dealers I've spoken to all recommended 91 for all of can am engines
Titanium heat wrap on the exhaust pipe can really make a big difference as to how hot your leg gets, even with all the factory heat shield.
Be sure to put the storage box on if you dont keep the 2 up seat on. If your butt gets muddy and slippery, you can slide back into the void, and climbing a steep incline, you CAN FLIP IT, LIKE I DID.
Where can u find the box
My opinion on this machine is that when 2 are on it the suspension is way too soft. Add spacers on the bottom of the 4 coils, that is a cheap fix with a great ride improvement that you won't regret. Also, the belt on the clutch can be changed without removing the footwell, all you need is a flex 1/4'' socket. It does come with a tool kit but nothing to replace the passenger seat when removed. This is a great bike overall but servicing it could be improved quite a bit.
Where did you buy the spacers? What manufacturer? Thanks
Summer day about 80 degrees and above it is like riding a oven set on broiler
I have a 2016 version of this machine and I can tell you in the summer it's like having a blow torch on your left leg.
The heat next to legs is not bad I have a 2021 and it does not get that bad at all. And ps I’m in CT
Have a 2022 650xt and it has been awesome,3800kms on it now and if I had to complain there are few things to say...1 is that the ground clearance does lack a bit as my previous 400 had more and never bottomed, the other thing is the power steering drops off way to much at higher speeds almost like its gone, gets annoying on long long trips...The ride is a little firm but it is a 4x4 for the bush not a cadillac ...
That's a great machine!
I’ve been looking at this machine for a few years now, but as soon as I was ready to buy one, the prices went out of control. I’m curious how the new 700 Max XT compares
I find the rear storage latch difficult to truly lock in. But, with the solo trail riding I'm planning on doing I simply filled it with the following "just in case" items, stuffing it full Hopefully I won't have to access these items at all.
Push Rivet Removal Tool
More "general" Tools
Knife
Tie-Wraps, Duct Tape, a couple of Rags
Safety Wire
TP & Hand Shovel
Kitchen Trash Bags
1st Aid Kit
Tire Plug Patch Kit
Tow “snatch-em” Strap - Kinetic Energy Recovery Tow Rope
Flashlight
Battery Starter Jumper (In case the hand warmers get left on.)
Tire Pressure Gauge
Electric Tire Pump. (Not actually purchased yet.)
Spare Fuses
I've only had my 850 Outlander Max XT one month, so just have 210 break-in miles on it. When I mean break-in miles, It's been all county gravel roads that have quite steep hills and descents at various throttle positions and speeds. That's to load the engine, i.e. pressurize the cylinders to press the rings against the cylinder walls seating the rings. I've mostly been riding my machine over and over a five mile stretch. I'm pretty much done with that now and plan on more distance sight seeing touring rides.
Another data point for those interested; I got 21 mpg doing that type of riding. I'm guessing it might get better as the engine breaks in and loosens up, plus riding less steep terrain.
On a 570 XU-22, you do not need to remove the footrest to access the belt but it is a little fiddly to get the lower belt cover bolts out AND, especially if there are skid plates mounted, you do not want to drop those bolts.
the max units had the box on the older models around 2017. I asked the dealer and they stopped including them but wasn't sure what year, the accessory book also shows it doesn't fit the newer machines. I ordered one of the boxes that would have came with the older units to see if it will work on the newer ones though because i like the look/size of the box.
and my 2023 came with a tool kit. it's supposed to be in the trunk on the max. i had to go back to the dealer they forgot to put it in when i picked it up.
Think they may have forgot to include ours too.
Mine came with a tool pack in the back trunk area.
Was planing to buy a 650 only to have my heart broke at the dealer. I tryed out one of the new 700s but wasnt a fan dont realy feel like i need a 850 so back to shopping around again
I started love 4x4 ATV's.They're better and safer than two wheeled motorcycles.But with condition of must reach 63M/H or more.
They're a ton of fun that's for sure. Be a hard time convincing a moto guy to switch over, but we love em.
Very nice! I'm very tempted by the 650 Can-Am, I've been hunting down a Kodiak 700 but they seem to be incredibly hard to find on the showroom floor since last summer at least. Only thing is I'm not a fan of Visco-4lok, I don't care for how it's speed/RPM sensitive and seems to be tuned best for mudding which is definitely fun but I'll be using my ATV more for work scenarios. I've seen videos of people trying to get over logs and things at slow speed with the Visco-4lok and it seems to struggle until the throttle is hammered down enough to get it to engage. Otherwise I really would jump on a Can-Am, if I could have it my way I would have an 650 or 850 Outlander loaded to the nuts for mudding and a Kodiak 700 to do the work and delicate trail riding. Lol
Great video!!
Can't you manually (electronically) lock up that front diff? I thought it was automatic and fully selectable - but maybe mistaken?
@@andrewsbbq I honestly couldn't say as I don't know anyone in person with it and TH-cam likely biased me towards the videos against it once I clicked one but I would be super happy to know that it is fully lockable!
@@JacobJustIts from what I read its fully lockable with the flip of a switch. But also automatic/limited slip for normal riding so you aren't fighting it when turning. I think it unlocks over a certain speed too (like 30mph or something). I read about it months ago so just going from memory, I might not have the facts 100%. But I am confident it can be fully locked
@@andrewsbbq I hope so! I'll have to research it to be sure but that's my only real drawback to the Can-Ams. They are very nice machines.
@@JacobJustIts my good buddy is looking at a 570 Outlander so I've been poking around some details here and there on them as I will likely be the one who ends up maintaining it are him haha
The 2022 no longer comes with the storage box even though the manual still shows it. My friend bought a 850XT and did not get it along with only one key. CanAm looking to save some money I guess. I have a 650 XT and love it. Wish it had the ride modes but I guess if it had it no one would need an 850:)
I bought the storage box.
So my 2020 did not come with it stock. When I questioned them they ended up throwing in the cargo box. But it took a lot of convincing. They said only the xtp max comes with it or it’s an ad on
What's the break over of the max vs 1up. And I'd guess this won't go in a short bed half ton, likely just fits nice in a standard 6ft bed with gate down
Really nice looking machine
I have the 1000 XT-P Max. It’s all my ‘21 Tundra w 5.5’ bed can handle. Wheel eel to whew well and front of bed to rear tires sitting solidly at end of tailgate. That is 950 lb plus the rider going over the tailgate which is my biggest worry!
@@BrickyardPowerMan 1000 is a big machine. 650 standard WB is only around 700lbs depending how it's optioned. And is something like 8-10" shorter than the 2up.
My wife and I ride just fine on my 500 with Kimpex Nomad. I'd actually much prefer the Nomad over this skeleton 2up seat. Holds a 5L gas can, stows 2 full face helmets and room to spare, damn near water proof, and comfy with two backrest incline positions. My fenders gaurds have flip down metal foot pegs though too, can't imagine being a passenger with legs dangling and getting bashed around not being able to prop up and cushion yourself with your legs
One thing I don’t care about the racks is it is a pain to clean dirt and mud under them.
4 nuts to under the fender to take them off.
Last of the 650’s 2023 renegade in base or XMR trim
We just got the 2023 Outlander 1000R XMR and it came with a tool box which is basically flush to the top of the seat. Came with a tool kit, but not great or overly worth it. We tend to put a tool roll together for all our off-road vehicles. Pricing is always deceiving because dealership fees etc etc. Our new machine with the tool box on the back with wet sound system was just under $25K CAD out the door.
Wow. Thanks for the information 👍
You can buy a small box to fit in the hole left by the seat but it does not come with it
Great video! I have a 2019 650 xt with 400km. When I'm on and off the throttle I get a knocking noise. Did you experience this with the 2022 version. And is this normal ? Any info would be great. Thanks
That's the helix in the secondary all the can am clutches do it and it's normal. Google can am clunk.
@@raunchymac Thanks for the info!!
@@brianborg1957 No problem. I went searching online after I got mine last fall and wondered what the on off throttle clanking noise was.
The trunk or storage in the rear is prone to pop open while riding. I keep a strap over it to prevent this.
yall half close the back like everyone else i seen who is not familiar with the unit.
My 2020 came with a storage bin that goes where the seat goes. And when the seat is one the box can go on front of back racks.
In 2019 they stopped giving them on max machines. But I insisted it be thrown in
Com-pos-it…………….not com-po-sit, awesome video, soon I will have mine
It does have a tool package in the back trunk
My 570 max xt, only pet peeve is when plowing, the shocks just cannot handle the weight up front very well. An inch or two of clearance where the Plow connects.
Hey Gents! 👍
...ok some realize you dont always need 1000cc- so powervise no problem- top speed not much difference too- i have a problem with the price- here in europe its between 13.000 to 18.000 euros and this is ridiculous- btw if u can get an arctic cat 700 trv- its nearly as powerful- much cheaper and less heat ;-)
Price is always going to play a role in your choice. I think the Outlander rides and handles much better than the Cat and I like the engine in the Outlander more. That's not to say the Cat isn't decent, just my experience with these two machines.
@@dirttraxtv much more maintenance on the Arctic Cat. My friend used my second CanAm because his AC was always in the shop.
I have a 2022 650 Max. Love the Atv but I don't like how ridiculously loud the whine is when driving around 45 -55Km/hr. I'm in the process of changing the one way bearing and belt in the hope it fixes this deafening machine. Totally unacceptable at this price point.
I installed a yoshi slip on and I don’t hear that annoying whining noise anymore and the yoshi isn’t obnoxious loud
Open your back storage it’s up high to the left the tool pack
I just ordered a 2023 650 max xt with the new led headlights. And the 650 does appear in 2023 catalog. I'm confused.
Oh some think it has tons of power, not so, unless you drive tricycles! If your not afraid to pin it, by the Polaris 850, now there’s some power!!
Also don’t leave the storage door open while it running for more than 4sec, or the exhaust burns a hole in it. Had it out with the manufacturer, they blew me off, even though I explained what a lousy design it was. Just under $50.00 for a new one.
650 is also in the Can-Am Renegade and Renegade XMR for 2023.
Correct! I made a mistake in my presentation so I actually included that in the description.
@Dirt Trax TV no biggy! Just a FYI before someone blasts ya.
@@doodrew800 Appreciate it 🙏
I had a 21 xt 1 up and gotta say I did not like the power steering I thought it was very numb in all 3 options .. The shocks are terrible in a bike priced that high and wished I had of known that at the time .. I beat the under body and frame to crap and bottomed out everywhere and I’m 205 pounds and I do not drive like a mad man … another thing that I did not like is that can am doesn’t extend the skid plate past the rear diff I don’t get that my frame was damaged pretty bad under the diff errrr .. anyway I traded it in for a 22 grizzly yes I know it doesn’t have the vtwin power but I find clutching way better and the power steering is the way it should be in my opinion .. and I can do oil and diffs in 30 min or less .. I wanted to like the outlander and it is a great bike but just not for me .. high maintenance atv .. great job as always and been watching you guys forever now biggest fan
Thanks for the kind words. Gotta be honest, the Grizzly is my favourite ATV, followed by the Outlander so if you're happy with your Grizz you got a good machine in my opinion.
@@dirttraxtv if there was a 2up Grizzly I would have stuck with one.
My Nana has the 650. I have the 850
Any chance on you guys doing a video on kids ATV a
We will see what we get this spring!
How do you water proof this machine?
Can someone kindly give me the total wheel info on that machine please. Thanks
When it comes to self service, CFMOTO CFORCE is the most friendliest, just saying.
Cfmoto is Chinese garbage. Keep coping
You said you don’t like running same tire size all around I’m running 4-30x9x14 cryptid and I have no problems running them with a 2020 650 xmr
Personal preference.
@@dirttraxtv I like this tire setup, no need for a square setup for me.
do you guys have any idea when you're going to get your mitts on the new 500/700?
Hoping we have one for spring!!
$100 storage box where the back seat is removed
My 570 max xt did not come with panel
I recently bought a 2020 Outlander 650xt with 129 miles on it. My first time out on it I was pulling a ATV brush hog behind it and thing were great until the engine power dwindled down then died. I spent half and hour trying to diagnose and restart it to no-avail. I took it back to the dealer where it was found that the ignition fuse had blown ( little 5amp fuse). I took it out again the following week to continue mowing and after an hour the same thing happens. I pull the coverings off to get to the fuse box and once in I remove the fuse that had blown the week before to inspect it, it was fine. Just for *hits and giggles is pull the next fuse over which was a 5amp also and find it was blown. That fuse was for the fuel pump. Once I replaced that it fired right up and has been running since. Has anyone else encountered this type of issue on a machine that is pretty much brand new?????????
Yep mine died while hunting this fall on my 2022 650 and it was the fuse for the fuel pump...went to see dealer and he checked the parts book and he said there was a new redesigned fuel pump relay $22.00 for those ATVs so I installed it in fuse box in front and did over 1000km and no problems since....kept the old relay for spare
For the USA you can get a Renegade 650 so they still have a 650 in their line up, just not in the outlander line.
Correct.
@@dirttraxtv of course the rest of the world has had the renegade 650 as an option for several years now. Even the 450 6x6. America doesn’t seem to get as many machine or accessory choices some other countries. It’s all market driven though
@@evantucker1590 Really hoping we can get a 650 Renegade this spring. I wanna rip that thing super bad.
@@dirttraxtv I’d love to see you guys get ahold of one! The 650 is a solid engine with more than enough smoke for anyone to enjoy.
is this 4x4?
Ride seat clip is very weak, you must have the 2up locked in or seat will blow off especially when trailering.
What do you mean? Never had an issue with my two up seat.
Incorrect, the 650 is available in the Renegade 2023
Yeah, that's already been addressed in the comments and in the description...
Isn't there a 2023 Renegade with the 650 motor?
Yes. I included this correction in the description.
Does it have the air shocks and air compreser like the 1000
My 21 XT-P 1000 Max doesn’t have the air compressor. Not sure if the 1000 Limited has it
2018 Max Limited owner here. I believe Can Am discontinued the Air Suspension stuff in 2020. Only the max limited had it up to 2019 and just in the back, the front used standard shocks the same as the XT shown in this video. Starting 2020 they moved to QS3 all the way around in the Limited.
My 19 has it
For 23 you can get the 650 in a renigade
Yes.
Get a Yamaha grizzly
This or a Grizz would be my top choices.
Sold my Grizzly for this. Needed a two up.
great advice for riders that ride alone - take a strap, I think anyone who is at all mechanical should take a extra belt. Doing a review and not even doing the research to tell viewers if the passenger seat area comes with a rack insert - Wow, talk about winging it.
What good is a tow strap going to be if you're riding alone??? Clearly said for getting a tow from your riding buddy. Take your morning dump, re-watch and I'll let you take another shot with the insults...
Can you guys do your homework? The 650 motor is available in the xmr570 outlander
650 is in the 570? 👌
Yep. Right on the can am website is the info
@@NiteHawk861maybe it's a misprint or you didn't read it correctly
Don’t leave it running with the rear storage door down or the exhaust melts the corner off the rear door.
Oh ya and Bombardier virtually told me sorry Charlie! As I told the useless &$@#% on the phone, it wasn’t my fault it’s piss poor French Design!!
I’m pissed off!
You're should getting allow your information before you do a review don't ask people for information
It creates conversation, which is a HUGE component of connecting with our audience. I'd much rather humbly ask for and then read an owner's opinion than read a bunch of snarky BS comments from guys who aren't even interested in this machine but want to sound smart. Might just be me...
I hear you dude the front bumper does look cool but I think it's way overdone and I really think it fucks up the looks of that beautiful quad