Eric, this is an old video but it just helped me fix my insanely loud lion master big boy. Thanks for all you do for the hobby, never would have took this on without the video
Hi Eric! Thank you for posting this video. I have a LionChief Hudson 4-6-4 that started to make some fan motor noise. This video helped a ton. Just a little oil, and the noise is now gone. Plus, the fan motor seems to be spinning more efficiently because the train went from good amount of smoke to "Holy cow!" amount of smoke. ;) Thanks for all you do to contribute to the hobby!
Brilliant tutorial! I recently purchased a Lionel 2023 big boy and my dealer (Milepost 38) told me that all of the latest big boys have smoke unit problem of leakage, they are repairing the problem. I was just checking if you had heard anything.
Thanks Eric! I have a diesel that had a terrible whining from the smoke unit and I was able to fix it, but I didn’t know how to fix it at first until I saw this video! Thanks!
Excellent video Eric! You sound so professional - love how you made it very, very clear it wasn't an issue that was common to Lionel because a lot of folks watching might suspect that. You're the kind of guy I like to envision as the one working on my trains or the mechanic at the auto repair shop - LOL...
Thank you so much!!!!! As a post war runner and collector I am not used to this lol. I have 6 MTH engines and my most recent purchase was 2f40ph’s that had very little run time. Both smoke units were loud. Did what you mentioned. Let’s say $$$$$ saved. Thank you for the great video and detail. Subscribed!!!!
Eric you're a savior! I did this to my Legacy BN SD-60, and it sounds QUIET! Now when I run it tonigh at my train clubs exhibit at our county fair it will smoke quietly!
I know that this video is old but I just now stumbled across it. Thank you very much I had a new Lionchief plus locomotive that had a noisy fan and this fixed it. The LC + locomotives are trick as the screws are directly under than fan.
Eric wonderful video appreciate the detail and hobby support. I was thinking of trying to make a fan smoke like that for my S gauge American Flyer engine. I saw you have the Coors engine, could i get some detailed photos of that engine to see if I can make an S gauge version???? Thank You Dennis
Great video Eric. Had the same issue with a new MTH set I got this past winter and a single drop of oil made it much better. Of course I wasn't as careful as I should have been and popped a wire off also. So, I got to oil the motor and soldier as well.
Perfect, and I have this exact unit in PRR with this problem; gonna do it now and replace batting while I’m in there. Oh yeah, mine sounds exactly the same.
Follow up: maybe the video was 8 years old. I DON’T CARE!! It worked!! Only a drip on the motor bearing and the smoker hushed right up! Thanks so much!
On my MTH trains I take the top off the smoke unit fan (not the smoke fluid chamber) and put a couple of small drops of silicone oil down inside. Fixes it for years.
Great video & helpful instructional procedure. I'm a '00'/'H0' modeller but never the less the gauge '0' American Locos are fabulous. (btw where's your accent from? Reminds me of my friends in Bermuda!) Best wishes. Bob (UK)
It's called a "diamond and gemstone pickup tool" that's technically made for jewelers but it's great for grabbing anything small...like a screw. Most hobby shops sell them.
@Eric'sTrains I am not really comfortable opening up my locomotive as I'm just worried I'll mess something up. Should I try to fix it myself or drive for 2 hrs to get it fixed at a good train store? It is a lionchief plus gp7. I do not want to drive somewhere and pay if it's something I feel confident about.
When working on newer trains with electronics please be careful as nothing kills those components quicker than static electricity. Use a ground strap while working on electronic components.
I opened up my sd90mac today, I couldn't disconnect the tethers and the smoke unit was set up differently so I guess I'll try another day once I'm more prepared to reach up into the shell with needle-nose pliers to disconnect the tethers.
+Steven Michael Go to amazon and search for "4 prong pickup tool" and you'll find it. It's around $5. I think they're mean for jewelers who need to pick up diamonds but they work great for screws.
I was wondering if you could make black smoke and if you could add another smoke unit to the rear of the engine, and possibly slicing little 'vents' into the shell were the vents are already at, just not open. Just to get a more real look. Is that possible? Has anyone done it on the forums anywhere?
5:27 If only I had watched this video before trouble shooting. Lead/solder post on the fan touched the housing and instantly saw a small spark. Now the entire etc is dead in the water. it will do nothing. I could simultaneously scream and cry.
I was running my one engine and when I stopped it and let it sit still, the smoke unit was glowing red and I obviously dont think it's safe. What should I do?
It's pretty redundant. The only thing that changes is how to open up the engine and get access to the smoke unit. The work on the smoke unit itself is the same, regardless of whether it's steam or diesel.
Had a smoke unit on my mth Warr Gereral that hadn't worked in awhile. Took the blower off as you instructed and lubricated it. Get it working now, Great idea and thanks for showing me how to fix it.
Anybody have issues with the smoke unit of a MTH SHAY ? When smoke unit engaged locks up the engine and no smoke. Mth tech support didn't fix Losing faith in Mth
It's called a "diamond and gemstone pickup tool" that's technically made for jewelers but it's great for grabbing anything small...like a screw. Most hobby shops sell them.
Eric, this is an old video but it just helped me fix my insanely loud lion master big boy. Thanks for all you do for the hobby, never would have took this on without the video
My new Lionel Canadian Pacific 972 is noisy as heck. About to go lube it. Thanks for the tutorial Eric!
Hi Eric! Thank you for posting this video. I have a LionChief Hudson 4-6-4 that started to make some fan motor noise. This video helped a ton. Just a little oil, and the noise is now gone. Plus, the fan motor seems to be spinning more efficiently because the train went from good amount of smoke to "Holy cow!" amount of smoke. ;) Thanks for all you do to contribute to the hobby!
Brilliant tutorial! I recently purchased a Lionel 2023 big boy and my dealer (Milepost 38) told me that all of the latest big boys have smoke unit problem of leakage, they are repairing the problem. I was just checking if you had heard anything.
Yes, thanks. Lionchief GP7 2.0 started becoming very noisy, three days into ownership. This fix looks easy enough.
Thanks for the video, the smoke unit in my engine was literally screaming for “oil”. What a difference. 🙂👍
Sorry, never mind I watched it a second time and did not skip ahead and you answered my question. Thank you.
Thanks Eric! I have a diesel that had a terrible whining from the smoke unit and I was able to fix it, but I didn’t know how to fix it at first until I saw this video! Thanks!
Excellent video Eric! You sound so professional - love how you made it very, very clear it wasn't an issue that was common to Lionel because a lot of folks watching might suspect that. You're the kind of guy I like to envision as the one working on my trains or the mechanic at the auto repair shop - LOL...
Thank you so much!!!!! As a post war runner and collector I am not used to this lol. I have 6 MTH engines and my most recent purchase was 2f40ph’s that had very little run time. Both smoke units were loud. Did what you mentioned. Let’s say $$$$$ saved. Thank you for the great video and detail. Subscribed!!!!
Excellent video Eric. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
Eric you're a savior! I did this to my Legacy BN SD-60, and it sounds QUIET! Now when I run it tonigh at my train clubs exhibit at our county fair it will smoke quietly!
I know that this video is old but I just now stumbled across it. Thank you very much I had a new Lionchief plus locomotive that had a noisy fan and this fixed it. The LC + locomotives are trick as the screws are directly under than fan.
Eric wonderful video appreciate the detail and hobby support. I was thinking of trying to make a fan smoke like that for my S gauge American Flyer engine. I saw you have the Coors engine, could i get some detailed photos of that engine to see if I can make an S gauge version???? Thank You Dennis
Glad I remembered this video before I blew something up. Just fixed my LionChief 2.0 Berkshire. Sounds a lot better now. Thanks Eric.
This is 10 years old and I’ll be using this on my Legacy A F.
I know this vid is 9 years old but this is the first time watching it. Good to know stuff. 👍
Great video Eric. Had the same issue with a new MTH set I got this past winter and a single drop of oil made it much better. Of course I wasn't as careful as I should have been and popped a wire off also. So, I got to oil the motor and soldier as well.
Perfect, and I have this exact unit in PRR with this problem; gonna do it now and replace batting while I’m in there. Oh yeah, mine sounds exactly the same.
Thanks Eric, video also shows how to repair or replace other smoke unit components.
AWESOME vid bud!!!! Being handy is a big plus if you are in the model train hobby! Thanks!
Hi eric, thank you so so much. I was trying to figure out what was wrong with my MTH model BNSF SD70ACe. its about 5 years old.
Exactly what I needed. Thank you. I have an MTH screamer that I’ll fix tonight.
Follow up: maybe the video was 8 years old. I DON’T CARE!! It worked!! Only a drip on the motor bearing and the smoker hushed right up! Thanks so much!
great video! you tested the motor again after putting the fan on, that makes sure the cover doesnt rub. Its awesome!
On my MTH trains I take the top off the smoke unit fan (not the smoke fluid chamber) and put a couple of small drops of silicone oil down inside. Fixes it for years.
Thank you Eric, your video helped me fix my noisy fan. Oddly enough the engine in question was my MTH BN U30C #1776, go figure....
Nice Job with the "How To" video Eric, very helpful. Have a great one!
Hey Eric, great job preforming this to your DD35A on Saturday. It turned out great!
Thanks for this GREAT tip Eric! This information will come in very handy!
Great video & helpful instructional procedure. I'm a '00'/'H0' modeller but never the less the gauge '0' American Locos are fabulous.
(btw where's your accent from? Reminds me of my friends in Bermuda!) Best wishes. Bob (UK)
He doesn't have one, at least to me
It's called a "diamond and gemstone pickup tool" that's technically made for jewelers but it's great for grabbing anything small...like a screw. Most hobby shops sell them.
I like that small tool you used. Very handy.
I just did this to my Legacy 4-6-0. Louder now. Hoping it will get quite with use. I think I may need a new motor.
Again, its explanation was fantastic
Nice video, Rick!
Thanks for the video!
Thanks. That really helped my engine. It doesn't make any sounds now.
@Eric'sTrains I am not really comfortable opening up my locomotive as I'm just worried I'll mess something up. Should I try to fix it myself or drive for 2 hrs to get it fixed at a good train store? It is a lionchief plus gp7. I do not want to drive somewhere and pay if it's something I feel confident about.
If you’re not comfortable doing the work, let somebody else do it
@@Ericstrains Thank you, it really helps to have your insight.
i have put drops of oil on the drive motors as well because they squeaked and that fixed the problem
What about on a steam locomotive? Loved the video by the way
Great job Eric.. Very helpful.
A very helpful video. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
hey eric can you please do a full review on that MTH dash 8 narrow nose weathered con rail for me?
Thank you very much Eric! I have this issue with a couple of my engines.
When working on newer trains with electronics please be careful as nothing kills those components quicker than static electricity. Use a ground strap while working on electronic components.
cool. I'll have to look into getting one, I get tired of dropping screws.
This is the video I need, thanks!
I think I missed something. What do you do if your hand get soldered to your shoe?
Excellent
I opened up my sd90mac today, I couldn't disconnect the tethers and the smoke unit was set up differently so I guess I'll try another day once I'm more prepared to reach up into the shell with needle-nose pliers to disconnect the tethers.
Please I need a tip how to fix the voice unite in the same model
Thank you for posting this video. Do you ever get any squeaking from your legacy flywheel motors?
Sort of and unrelated question, but I have to ask. Where did you get that device you used to pick up the screws?
+Steven Michael Go to amazon and search for "4 prong pickup tool" and you'll find it. It's around $5. I think they're mean for jewelers who need to pick up diamonds but they work great for screws.
Okay. Thanks!
Were did you get that tool to remove the last screw around 7:14
A worthwhile fix nonetheless , good job .
hey Eric trains i try what u did and it stills make the same sound after i put the oil on the fan bearing help to see what i can do next plz and ty
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I was wondering if you could make black smoke and if you could add another smoke unit to the rear of the engine, and possibly slicing little 'vents' into the shell were the vents are already at, just not open. Just to get a more real look. Is that possible? Has anyone done it on the forums anywhere?
Does this apply to a steam engine too? Because I just got a Lionel union pacific A5 0-4-0.
Yes, if it has a noisy smoke unit.
just got a brand new lion chief plus gp38 and the smoke unit is not producing any smoke. the switch is on and I put smoke fluid in. Any suggestions
Wow, Thanks for the informative video
How bad is it when a smoke unit is noisy? Will the motor brake soon if its noisy?
It won't break anything, it's just annoying.
@@Ericstrains hey Eric, I am curious to know where you got your Pere Marquette 1225. I am looking into getting one. Thank you.
Where can I get this wick
Well Done
Thanks.
Big difference. In fact, I think it was dragging a little until you lubed it.
What about a drop of oil on the other end of the shaft?
5:27 If only I had watched this video before trouble shooting. Lead/solder post on the fan touched the housing and instantly saw a small spark. Now the entire etc is dead in the water. it will do nothing. I could simultaneously scream and cry.
I was running my one engine and when I stopped it and let it sit still, the smoke unit was glowing red and I obviously dont think it's safe. What should I do?
Wow great tips I attempt do so. Thanks
Great! Thanks.
Nice Job Nice Job :)
I got the same problem with my mth csx sd70-ace and sd40-2s
Great I didn't know diesel trains had smoke machines I thought that was a steam loco thing
It's pretty redundant. The only thing that changes is how to open up the engine and get access to the smoke unit. The work on the smoke unit itself is the same, regardless of whether it's steam or diesel.
Had a smoke unit on my mth Warr Gereral that hadn't worked in awhile. Took the blower off as you instructed and lubricated it. Get it working now, Great idea and thanks for showing me how to fix it.
Why don't smoke units work like a humidifier or an electronic cigarette basically????? It would be far less toxic than smoke oil.
I have an rail king FEF and the smoke fan is sssooooooo loud
"a single drop of oil" Huh they never tell you that in the train set instructional videos when fixing a smoke unit.
Heh, solder as well. Thanks autocorrect!
At first, I thought the smoke unit noise was my speakers malfunctioning.
One of my train's smoke unit somehow set off a fire alarm
Anybody have issues with the smoke unit of a MTH SHAY ?
When smoke unit engaged locks up the engine and no smoke. Mth tech support didn't fix
Losing faith in Mth
No
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Eric any recommendations ?
Hi
It's called a "diamond and gemstone pickup tool" that's technically made for jewelers but it's great for grabbing anything small...like a screw. Most hobby shops sell them.
Is there 2 rail o gauge track