Yamaha CLP vs CSP. What are the differences? | Which piano should I buy?
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If you're trying to decide between the Yamaha CLP and CSP models of digital piano then this video is a MUST WATCH!
@chrisonpiano compares the two ranges in detail and explains all the important things to consider before making your decision.
00:00 Intro and initial summary
01:00 What are the fundamental differences?
01:42 Learning to play on the Yamaha CLP range
02:36 Learning to play on the Yamaha CSP range
02:59 The Stream Lights system on the CSP range
04:11 The Yamaha Smart Pianist app
06:44 Why else might you choose a Yamaha CLP rather than a CSP model?
08:31 Why would you spend more on a top-spec Yamaha CLP?
08:56 The GrandTouch keyboard on CLP
09:41 GP Response Damper Pedal on CLP
11:21 Grand Expression Modeling on CLP
12:59 Yamaha Smart Pianist is for Yamaha CLP too!
14:28 Final conclusion. Which piano should you buy?
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I've never seen someone have notes for a youtube video, but I think you absolutely killed it by using them. Great information!
I'm not a big commentor on TH-cam videos but I've got to say that this is a superb video. It's crazy but I'm not even interested in buying one of these models! The way the presenter explains everything really makes you follow along and listen and the graphics on screen help too. I'd maybe liked to have seen more playing but I think he said another video is coming soon with that? Great job Epianos!
Thanks for that supportive comment, Beau. It's really appreciated! Yes, we'll be uploading the full playing comparison between the Yamaha CLP-745 and CSP-170 that were featured in this video soon.
Here's an update for you, Beau. As promised, here is the full playing comparison: th-cam.com/video/sHcS00l1HG4/w-d-xo.html
Dear epianos, this commenter is speaking yhe truth. This has been THE BEST and MOST HONEST comparison ive ever seen. You literally told me what I needed to know to make a decision. And you even gave us the answer in the beginning. Idk if I can order from you while in The Netherlands, but I would love to give you my business. Honestly best comparison format ever. Precisely what I wanted to know. Very good presentation, especially making the app seem very helpful. The clp line seems very good. But I realized that artistical expression is something I will probably not want to miss out on, and i will have to save up for the clp785
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this video deserves respect. time value of the viewer and quality of information is waaayy above any other piano comparing videos on the entire web.. this is my first and only comment on YT in 14 years.
The best piano reviewer out there. Extreme helpful and comprehensive with the information presented in a logical and easily comprehensible way.
Excellent video. Thank you.
Very useful, thank you very much for sharing!
Excellent video - exactly what i was looking for. Many thanks!
Thank you so much for your great advices !! I made my choice with this video
Very beautifully explained.
Very helpful info
Vielen Dank, das beste Video bisher dazu. 👍🏻
Excellent explanation. Thank you for being so thorough.
Thanks Chris! Great videos; really appreciate it. I'll drop by the shop the next time i'm over in the UK. Take care and have a good weekend. Don
Excelente video, thank you!
Wow. Thanks for the thorough explanation. I have wanted to learn the piano for years. The CSP model has gotten me excited about pursuing my goals.
Very well explained comparison and as an organist wishing to choose a digital piano the information has been invaluable. Thank you so much 🙏
The best video I’ve seen that explains in detail what the pros and cons of a CLP vs. CSP. Very helpful information on this video. 🎹 🎼
thanks for your great explanation!
You are welcome!
Very interesting vidéo! I loved it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great explenation, thks a lot 🤩👍 I'm interessted in yamaha CLP 765 GP
Very good review, straight to the point, and crystal clear. I am between both options and after viewing the video I have made my choice. Unfortunately, I do not live in the UK, so won't be able to buy it at epianos.
After watching your video, I wanna buy both, but that’s impossible for me. It is really hard to make decisions between these two piano, both of them are great!
Very informative video, but I had made up my mind before watching this. I bought a CLP 635 from you about 3 years ago, it's now boxed up because I'm moving house, and I plan to never unbox it again.... Because when I do move ( don't know when I'm in a chain) I will be contacting you to buy a CLP785 🙂
Thank you!
Hi Chris! It would be very interesting and useful if you ever did a brief video on how the GP Damper Response Pedal can be used to convey different musical nuances like one can in acoustic grands. I recently got the Clavinova CVP809GP and there is an adjustment to the slightly stiffer/heavier pedal feel than other digitals that simply have the "on/off" pedal quality. Thank you. Best, Don
Brilliant thank you so much
Yes, of course I give a thumbs up 👍. I'm looking forward to the sound presentations, in the different nuances.
Have a nice musical time,
Ursel
Thank you, very good, professional presentation. I have rarely found such clear, well thought-out and structured information. Perhaps it remains to be noted that the CLP line is better suited for advanced, traditional piano players and the CSP line better for beginners - if I understood correctly. Thank you again.
Where Yamaha lacks expertise in explaining these differences you excel in doing so - Bravo! (I believe the upper CLP models have wooden keys, whereas the rest has not)
Yep. He really nailed it. Made both of them look very attractive too.
The csp does have wooden keys as well
I bought the CSP-170 and I love it! 👍
Good choice!
Great video, thanks! And now we have two more CSP-range upright models in the market: the CSP-295, CSP-275 and CSP-255. Both with Grand Touch-S keys. and improved speakers as well. Unfortunately, the only the top-price CSP-295 tan match the sound quality of the CLP-775. I guess that´s to avoid cannibalization of the CLP range top models from the mid-range CSP models. Never forget that the CSP range pianos can also be used to learn how to play on the traditional way too.
Thank you very much for the reviews and comments! They are very helpful. I would like to ask, for pursuing the ABRSM exam, would you recommend the CLP series or traditional piano would be more preferable?
This is an excellent video indeed! After visiting a local store I was convinced that the CLP 775 was the one to put my money on and I now wonder how a sales rep pretty much gave it a bit of a cold shoulder when I asked what CSP models were about! Since the purchase is for our kids mainly and also the fact that it is going to be for a long term indeed picking the right model between CLP775 and CSP170 is very important! I do feel based on this video in particular that my kids would find it a lot more fun, interactive and engaging with CSP170 but then I will miss out on CLP775's richer sound and latest grandtouch key action and all the other advantages! And from what I understand that with CLP775, experience with Pianist App would be very basic and limited! Anyhow after all things considered I lean more towards CSP170 over CLP775 but I notice that CSP170 was 1st released in 2017 while CLP775 in 2020, wonder if CSP170 is still worthy over CLP775 today for my purposes! If budget is not a question which one would one buy today if the aim is to have the best technology, future proofing and have the best learning experience? Your help is much appreciated! And once again thank you so very much for videos like these, best out there on TH-cam or anywhere else!😊🙏
Thanks so much for your supporttive comment, Bhavik!
When it comes to teaching kids to play, I think that 90% of the process is getting them interested and engaged. The CSP range are absolutely ideal for this and the CSP170, in particular, is till a high-spec digital piano which will give them plenty of room to grow into sensitive players. Maybe when they're progressed (and moved out!) you can treat yourself to a CLP775 or CLP785? 😉 Good luck! Chris
@@ePianoscouk - Thanks heaps, this helps a lot!😊
Thumbs up for giving me the answer in the first 30 seconds!
great video, so helpful. i wonder about the lifespan of the CSP with regard to compatibility with iPads as ipads and their chargers are upgraded.. remember when USB was replaced by a proprietary new design? Will I be able to plug a 2033 iPad into my decade old CSP?
Thanks a lot for this comparison, especially for the detail i was asking myself and interested most: The Yamaha SMART PIANIST app can be used with a CLP model as well. you simply cannot use the full scope as you can on an CSP.
You're welcome, Fritz. You're correct. The Yamaha Smart Pianist app can indeed be used with the CLP models, and quite a few other models too! We have a blog explaining which models are compatible here: www.epianos.co.uk/is-the-yamaha-smart-pianist-app-compatible-with-my-piano-or-keyboard/
thanks for help))
You're welcome. Thanks for your support!
Great video with clear explanation and important distinctions. I am a beginner and own both the clp745 and csp 170. My two cents is that the CLP is better for beginners simply based on touch. If I had learned on the CSP I don’t think I would have been able to practice 1000 hours the first year as the keys are lighter on the CLP and my hands would have tired out earlier on the CSP. However I am also a fan of the CSP touch since I feel I have greater expression with the heavier keys and the accompaniment depth and selection is a blast.
Hello and what color finish did you buy for both pianos? Do they look nice? Thanks
I’m thinking about upgrading from my P125 in the new year and was all but set on the CLP745 or 775. But seeing all that the CSP has to offer in terms of the backing tracks and rhythms has just thrown that into turmoil 🤦🏻♂️ Now I have no idea which one I want.
Haha! I'm sorry to throw you into turmoil, Steve! On the other hand, I'm glad that you've discovered the CSP models. They really are excellent and as I say in the video, they bring together the best of the traditional and modern in digital piano tech.
Is there any particular function or feature on the CSP range that you'd like us to make a video on?
Hi whats ur decision then?
Hi,
Thank you for the great video.
I have the CSP-170 and love it for many of the reasons that you mention in the video.
I am a novice, and find the styles a great way to play along with chords even when not using the follow lights.
A friend is also looking to buy either the CSP-170 or the CLP-745. I Am encouraging them toward the CSP-170 but one concern about the CSP range is that it seems to have been discontinued and the prices of remaining stock seem to have shot back up to the RRP.
Is there an official position on this from Yamaha yet?
Can we expect a second generation CSP range or has it gone for good. It is such an amazing concept and learning tool it will be a shame if it doesn’t survive.
They released a newer versions of csp series
Actually I was wondering what was the difference between the CLP 320 and the most recent version? I own the CLP 320 at home. Thanks for the video. Happy Holidays
**** FANTASTIC EXPLANATION ....HOW MANY YEARS WITH PROPER USE CAN THESE TOP CLP MODELS CAN BE EXPECTED TO LAST...CONSIDERING THE HIGHT COST ????. THANK YOU !
They are not expensive - just look at what you get for your money. Incredible…
Love your 795 GP videos. I'd love one - the wife will kill me. Could you do similar videos for the 765 GP? Divorce is less likely at that budget.
I use to have the CLP 675 with the GrandTouch keyboard. Is the feel from the CSP keyboard very different without GrandTouch?
The difference between 785 and 775 and between the 775 and the 745?
All nice pianos, but I dont get the high prices models of the CSP line. Its nice for beginners, with an extremly beginner unfriendly price - there should be a model priced like the CLP 725/735. Otherwise, its perhaps a really good line for music teachers or schools. Perhaps also for parents with children, so that it is easier to introduce them to the instrument.
I like wooden ruler methods 😝 And as I can’t afford calling a tuner to tune an acoustic piano weekly, I think I will buy clp 765 baby grand.
Who told you it was weekly? xd, you only have to do it 2 times a year if you play daily. I really recommend to you that if you have the money, please buy a good upright acoustic piano, there's nothing better than the real thing.
Does the 765 CLP have the same functionality with the app (just without the light learning)?
Is the CLP 775 or 785 more authentic in feel and sound than the yamaha dgx670? A friend of mine has the 670 but im looking for something more real
Yes, they do. Personally, I'm a big fan of the Yamaha DGX series and have owned a few over the years (www.epianos.co.uk/songwriting-machine-how-the-yamaha-dgx-kept-me-writing-songs/) but the top-spec CLP models (CLP-775 & CLP-785) have significantly better weighted key mechanisms and emply other high-end tech to really make them more authentic.
Check out my long play video of the Yamaha CLP-785 here: www.epianos.co.uk/tv/the-booth-6-yamaha-clp785-digital-piano/
I hope that helps!
Saludos 👋🇵🇪
I wish i can win one of these in a giveaway lol, i can't even afford the cheapest digitalis those would change my world lol,
Sidenote: your voice is awesome lol😂😂I want to visit uk and your shop it's on my what to do list, can't wait till my med degree is over here in Pakistan
Whenever even Yuma Wang needs to have a score in front of her, it’s usually on an iPad. Professional musicians all use iPads.
CSP Key combinations, UGH...CLP is more turn on and go. Besides, Do I really want to encourage my child to use a tablet even more than he already does? I'd like to see a demo of how to press a key to change the voice. Absolutely no screen on the keyboard is a no go...