The Intellivision Amico Story - Lies, Egos, And MILLIONS Of Dollars STOLEN!

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  • @RGT85
    @RGT85  2 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    If you like long form vids like this lmk. I have a few more ideas for them.

    • @gimphandjeff
      @gimphandjeff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I do!

    • @thecunninlynguist
      @thecunninlynguist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes. Deep dives on topics are the best

    • @MyBurdenToBury
      @MyBurdenToBury 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're a nice change of pace,btw you have a typo in your video header, intellision 😄

    • @LFC_since1970
      @LFC_since1970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is great. I like the depth and the change of pace. I enjoy your insight and narrative- thanks.

    • @egrytznr8893
      @egrytznr8893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely this is great

  • @RedWingCody
    @RedWingCody 2 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    I feel like Evercade is fulfilling the goals the Amiico was going for: affordable, simple games, retro games, etc.

    • @millmr20
      @millmr20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Including intellivision games

    • @stakesishigh8443
      @stakesishigh8443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I sold my retro collection a few years back. There's part of me that wants to hop on the evercade train

    • @GG-sn4cw
      @GG-sn4cw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Evercade needs more attention because they are so underrated absolutely amazing products

    • @millmr20
      @millmr20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stakesishigh8443 it’s a cool little hand held, cheap nice library. I’ve used it maybe 5 times since I’ve bought so it’s really on what you’re looking for.

    • @sloppynyuszi
      @sloppynyuszi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The modern retro compilations are what I find most interesting. Another device to play retro compilations is a bit boring. But having a way to support developers making new content on old devices, for devices you don’t have anymore is pretty cool.
      I won’t buy a mega drive again, but i love it how people are now pushing that thing to new heights, and buying a cartridge on something more modern to support them is pretty cool. And the physical thing helps the retro feel.

  • @sierrakobold6896
    @sierrakobold6896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    I'm sorry man but the way Tommy went after journalist and creators for speaking the truth of the situation, all his blatant lies and severe mismanagement of other people's money, Tommy absolutely IS a bad guy, there would be nothing harsh if u maintained he is not a good guy

    • @jeangabrielcotto508
      @jeangabrielcotto508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      bro it's Not Tommy fault, You're a gaming Racist 😂

    • @josephrowe2202
      @josephrowe2202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah, but the non popular TH-camrs have sold their soul for a dozen clicks. I've got some advice...if you want to be popular make content with substance. Mr. Incel here, has never done that

    • @Wolfie1262
      @Wolfie1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@josephrowe2202 wtf

    • @sierrakobold6896
      @sierrakobold6896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@josephrowe2202 are you alluding to the deluded Amico cult members who devote their content to a non existent console by way of what seems like a quasi homosexual enfatuation with Tommy, when you reference "non popular YTers who sold their soul for a dozen clicks"?

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The journalist is a hack.

  • @SuperNintendude88
    @SuperNintendude88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    It's quite ironic that this whole thing has shone a bright light on Tommy and shown everyone what kind of person he really is. Most people would have just thought of him as the guy that did music for some games back in the day and hosted Video Games Live. Now people know him for being an unhinged maniac who attacks anyone he can and a pathological liar. Hope it was worth it Tommy...

  • @DaveVoyles
    @DaveVoyles ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I used to teach game development at Penn State, and many of my students games looked better than the ones they were highlighting on this platform.

  • @retrogameraaron4778
    @retrogameraaron4778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    All the people who shilled for the Amico to the bitter end, would not listen to any of the warnings, called everyone who voiced concerns about it a "hater", and actually thought Tommy was their friend...they deserve to lose their money. I don't feel sorry for them one bit.

    • @mr_indie_fan
      @mr_indie_fan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same goes for the people that were using stadia.

    • @Crlarl
      @Crlarl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mr_indie_fan
      Stadia actually delivered. Amico didn't.

    • @johnnyflannigan136
      @johnnyflannigan136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr_indie_fan your comment is idotic

    • @OhFishyFish
      @OhFishyFish ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mr_indie_fan This is more like Coleco Chameleon than stadia.

    • @bonjovi7399
      @bonjovi7399 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Shillico's. They labelled any criticsim as "haters". Simple questions about the progress of the system as haters, and trolls. Even going as far as attacking backers who were asking general questions and being super combative with them. Having the Amico shills coming in to Start Engine to argue and discredit people with genuine worries.
      The whole Amico/Tommy story is so whacky you'll lose days/weeks falling down the rabbit hole. The hole is so deep, and splits off into multiple directions, you'll spend years down there without even getting to the bottom of the truth.

  • @pvsweetypie
    @pvsweetypie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    At least Stadia is offering refunds which I was shocked by to be honest.
    Amico you will never see that money again....for most people

    • @karimcheese7257
      @karimcheese7257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Google is offering refunds because they understand that they're going to probably spend more money trying to fight off class action lawsuits rather than just give people the money that they lost from this venture. I hope all the people involved with the Amico get sued

    • @freddiejohnson6137
      @freddiejohnson6137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Google can actually afford to give that money back because they have such deep pockets so there is a big difference. If Google went out of business as a result of Stadia failing no one would see a penny back. So it's a very different thing.

    • @zeroryoko1974
      @zeroryoko1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well,, Google had the money to do it. They didn't spend it on loans to themselves, and paying Tommy

    • @patrickcollier7090
      @patrickcollier7090 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It seems pretty clear from the reports coming out about all this that Intellivision doesn't have enough cash to provide all the refund requests on pre-orders let alone actually finish the Amico and deliver even a small production run. I am guessing between now and the end of 2023 they file for bankruptcy and wash their hands of the whole thing.

  • @jordanwhite352
    @jordanwhite352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This entire video should have been a link to the Amico playlist on Pat & Ian's channel.

    • @retrogamestudios6688
      @retrogamestudios6688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, but he's making the downfall video ahead of the pack. Wait another 6 months or year there will be courts and arrests......you'll see

    • @gzuskreist1021
      @gzuskreist1021 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont think anyone needs a headache from looking at or listening to that douchebag Ian.

  • @KartKing4ever
    @KartKing4ever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Pat and Ian were right every step of the way.

    • @gzuskreist1021
      @gzuskreist1021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That guy Ian is the absolute worst and makes Pat impossible to watch.

    • @KartKing4ever
      @KartKing4ever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gzuskreist1021 What is this, 2016? Just don't watch them then lol

    • @bluefates58
      @bluefates58 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gzuskreist1021 I think Ian is pretty funny

    • @joshsimpson79
      @joshsimpson79 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gzuskreist1021 I don't care for them either, but they were right and I have mostly enjoyed their Amico content.

  • @pauleckert4321
    @pauleckert4321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Sad as Tommy really ruined his name in the video game industury. I dont think it was a scam from the start. But I think it became one when he overspent on everything without it proven in any areas. He should have started in the USA and then if it did well, then move one. But to have offices all around the world was insane. After awhile they looked at the numbers and then saw it was not feasabile. Then it became a scam. The fact they still talk like its coming out, just insanity.

    • @CasepbX
      @CasepbX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree.

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The cost of overhead really crept up on them. I don't believe the theories that the money was laundered, etc. The money was wasted simply because of incompetent budgeting and trying to appear a lot bigger than they actually were.

    • @pauleckert4321
      @pauleckert4321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ccricers Yes. All one has to do is watch tours of their office partys to see where the money went.

    • @mr_indie_fan
      @mr_indie_fan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They tried to hard to get it everywhere at once, should've started small.

    • @ladynikkie
      @ladynikkie ปีที่แล้ว

      He let his ego over cloud his judgment It was clear that when you're a startup company you start up small plus listen to your advisors, especially your financial ones

  • @Eggaro
    @Eggaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Gotta love how Tommy already pocketed the money, that big watch he’s wearing is a Richard Mille, it goes for around $350k

    • @guyonearth
      @guyonearth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Funny how his company is going bankrupt yet he has 300k for a watch...unless it's a fake.

    • @shabath
      @shabath 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@guyonearth Almost as if there's some connection between those 2 things...

    • @ebenezerspludge8369
      @ebenezerspludge8369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Declare bankruptcy, Pay everything off at a lower cost. 5 years from now your credit score is right back where it is now any you scammed the system.

    • @guyonearth
      @guyonearth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ebenezerspludge8369 Corporate bankruptcy has no effect on your personal credit score. If he filed personal bankruptcy he'd have to give up the watch.

    • @ebenezerspludge8369
      @ebenezerspludge8369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@guyonearth Oh, I didn't think about it being dodges or Corporate. I know some people who declared bankruptcy and didn't have to give up anything.

  • @NinjaKittyRetro
    @NinjaKittyRetro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I'm still unsure if it was a scam from the beginning or a really bad idea that kept dragging on way past the point of no return.

    • @DragonHeart613
      @DragonHeart613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tommy was serious about making the product happen but he found himself way in over his head and rather than just throw in the towel & move on, he kept making blunder after blunder. It sucks because I grew up watching Tommy Tallerico on the original G4TV co-hosting both Judgement Day & Electric Playground with Victor Lucas and even though I don't care about Intellivision, I was rooting for Tommy to succeed but instead he fell down the proverbial rabbit hole & has shown no sign of getting out.

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@DragonHeart613 PR blunders aside he really exaggerated the progress of the console. Last November he put out an official announcement saying the Amico has left pre-production and entered "formal production". These may be weasel words because I don't know if it actually means something in the industry, but when the average buyer with a interest in Amico reads that, they are more than likely to assume: great, they have some factory out there spitting out complete Amico consoles and all they have to do next is ship them to stores and warehouses. 10 months later, where did this "formal production" take them? That announcement was easily one of the dumbest moments for the company.

    • @therealavolpe
      @therealavolpe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was always a scám.. 🚨👮🚨👮

    • @gamer2101
      @gamer2101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you are correct.

    • @jeangabrielcotto508
      @jeangabrielcotto508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@therealavolpe it's Not a scam, You're a gaming Racist 😂

  • @randy4819
    @randy4819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Fascinating video. As a board game reviewer, the part about small time reviewers being taken advantage of was really interesting. I love in-depth videos like this. Keep it up, man.

    • @PuzZLeR_00
      @PuzZLeR_00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting you mention board games.
      Amico is/was not intended to compete with the Big Three. They were actually much more interested in the board game market - couch co-op, family, bringing people together, etc.
      Critics of the system are mostly hardcore gamers. They don't understand Amico's market, and don't understand that board gamers are a different animal entirely.

  • @daprophet2970
    @daprophet2970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Currently watching Lunch with RGT.... Man, I'm 46 and grew up with IntelIivision. I still have the games and console in garage. I would have been a buyer but I realize I am one of the few that simply wanted to re-live older games. The reality is, the market simply doesn't exist for this one. So yeah. It's over.

    • @therealavolpe
      @therealavolpe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But Turbo Joe says "Amico is for F**king families"..!!

    • @Ederfb78
      @Ederfb78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seriously, I’m 44 and grow up with the Intellivision and Atari and I just found out the perfect solution to re-live that era… The Steam Deck! I currently have all Intellivision, Atari, Commodore, Collecovision, etc. games installed on it. They all run perfectly and since it’s a portable device, I can play them when and where I want. Using a hdmi cable and controllers, I can also output all those games to the tv. Seriously, if you’re a retro gamer, I’ll recommend having a look at it.

  • @deathisjim
    @deathisjim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When it was first announced it was shortly after the Chameleon so I was cautiously optimistic. However, quickly I found holes in the idea; especially when the company started going on about competing with Sony or Nintendo by going after this HUGE casual gamer market and being only family-friendly. Bruh, that's not why anyone wanted it in the first place. People wanted a retro console, people who are older than dirt like me. We didn't want casual, we wanted true, classic, retro gaming. That's when the cracks for me started to appear and now I have fully written off the system. Now I just sit back and watch Intelliboomers drink the Kool-Aid.

  • @ccricers
    @ccricers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think it didn't become a scam until 2020 when they were exaggerating the state of progress in the console, and started taking pre-orders, while knowing that they're actually not all that ready to meet the launch date (they wouldn't officially announce a delay till 2 months before the planned launch). As time went on, statements on progress just became more exaggerated. Amico is what you get if Coleco Chameleon had millions more dollars to play around with.

  • @hanzo90
    @hanzo90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Never did i think that a console could fail worse than the Ouya

    • @messiahmozgus
      @messiahmozgus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I enjoyed my OUYA as a cheap emulation console for my bedroom at the time.

  • @danspawn85
    @danspawn85 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Pat and Ian were right all along.

    • @CL-os5cz
      @CL-os5cz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      These amico guys are awfully quiet now lol.

  • @TheRealMerchyBautista
    @TheRealMerchyBautista 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Remember that time we thought Intellivision Amico was going to be in fruition instead of the Atari VCS? Pepperidge Farm remembers!

    • @greatbigeyeball
      @greatbigeyeball 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah at the very least the VCS is a good home brew machine that offers *something*, it exists and that’s step #1 lol

  • @XanthinZarda
    @XanthinZarda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The hilarious thing about this saga is that it basically peeled back 30 years of Tommy's history and showed that he's been a poseur and incompetent since the very start.
    From posing with a wax figurine of the Dalai Lama, to the absurd claim of having been the first "American" to work on a Sonic game, to his fantastically toxic posse & attitude, it's all been laid on the table.

  • @MrJechgo
    @MrJechgo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Funny that Pat and Ian (CU Podcast) called the project a scam, yet no one believed them...

  • @KevinTriforce
    @KevinTriforce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    How Tommy treated Pat and Ian is despicable.

    • @dewinter1411
      @dewinter1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Truth!!

    • @sonicexereaper6814
      @sonicexereaper6814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nah, screw those guys. Considering Ian enjoys bashing on criticism from loyal consumers and fans like the ones from Diablo Immortal and the Sonic live action, and Pat not knowing what context he’s looking into except react and follow the flow, they deserve what’s coming to them. Should’ve just stayed focus with their topic on NES and retro games, and not the modern generation if they continue to slack off and not do research.

    • @TheLastLineLive
      @TheLastLineLive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but they brought a good share of that on themselves. And Tommy invited them to check it out like he did a lot of these smaller channels and they refused. And I know for a fact from personal experience that Pat will make stuff up to serve his own purposes.

    • @PuzZLeR_00
      @PuzZLeR_00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pat and Ian immediately put Amico in the same room as the Chameleon - from the start - and I don't blame Tommy for taking that as an insult.
      Those guys are only gloating because they think they were right all along, and also said that it wouldn't sell, etc, which is unproven since it has yet to make retail to be proven/disproven.
      Pat and Ian deserve no credit IMO. And, in their last Amico video they seemed awfuly nervous and desperate. It may just release...

    • @poboxchristmas380
      @poboxchristmas380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@PuzZLeR_00 speaking of nervous and desperate...

  • @taionalmeida5337
    @taionalmeida5337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Intelivision cult was terribly toxic for a console suposedly "Kids and family friendly". Harassment Of women, queer people, Black people ... I originally thought It could be a good Idea but ... At certain point this stuff becomes more scary than inviting

    • @XanthinZarda
      @XanthinZarda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And don't forget their CTO's opinions on job enviroments, the transitioning, the position of women in the "nuclear" family, and more terribly dated opinions at best.
      Basically, I'm surprised John Alvarado didn't show up in Minstrel Show makeup.

  • @ladynikkie
    @ladynikkie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:35 Atari VCS, Evercade, Steam deck, play date, PS5, Xbox series X, and last but not least the dangerous Nintendo Switch (with numerous oled versions) in which Tommy had the gall to slander about violence and r**e. They all manage to get their projects out whether there is a chip shortage or pandemic they managed to get the job done and didn't waste money and time opening multiple offices and going after strangers in forums and podcast interviews like a maniac!

  • @egrytznr8893
    @egrytznr8893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm kinda joking but it seems like somewhere scattered throughout this whole epic Amico fiasco are giant Scarface style mounds of cocainne, the whole idea seems like it was inspired by it kinda like when you hear some 80's music and you just know what they were doing alot of.

  • @thewhitematstudio
    @thewhitematstudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tommy Had the ego to tell me how wrong I was when I commented it would be the next Atari 🗑 box. Who knew it would be this bad

  • @therealavolpe
    @therealavolpe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Intellivision Amico was an investment scám & garbáge system dude..

    • @joshua.snyder
      @joshua.snyder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you are a Darius fanboy crushing, toadie. You obssess with him as much as you do that fishface guy (no idea who that is). But yes, Amico is garbage and a scam.

    • @bltvd
      @bltvd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL the original Intellivison was a garbage system as well! I am 47 and remember it sucking from the start!

    • @therealavolpe
      @therealavolpe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bltvd
      It was actually pretty good for its time. I had one at home in the UK & it cost a small fortune, but yeah it's not something I played that much of really.

  • @MrSdways
    @MrSdways 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tommy is now selling his comic book, and video game collection. At really inflated prices mind you. Guess he is desperate for cash.

  • @scottwood4123
    @scottwood4123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It’s sad. I would have purchased this system for my young kids. I think it would have been fun to play with them. But what a disaster.

  • @polishprince47
    @polishprince47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast. - Ron Burgundy.

  • @RoXolid
    @RoXolid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well said my friend. I tried calling Tommy out on his poor response to critics in the interview I did with it and he just couldn't change. He felt obligated to feed the trolls, he always had a justification

    • @amicobuddi
      @amicobuddi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just finished listening to it this morning at work. Straight up with his victim mentality when you asked him.

    • @RoXolid
      @RoXolid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amicobuddi Well thanks, and I tried being frank with him, not attacking, but just like "Who Really Cares". Well, he does.

    • @amicobuddi
      @amicobuddi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoXolid don't think the earthworm Jim amico console is coming out anytime soon. But you never know. 🙄

    • @RoXolid
      @RoXolid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amicobuddi Agreed, I gave up long ago. Glad I never pre-ordered

  • @Justin-fj4ev
    @Justin-fj4ev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You can tell there’s a dumping of assets and a push to put out a limited number of consoles to avoid having to pay through the nose on an inevitable class action lawsuit.

  • @brianralli7428
    @brianralli7428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm 49 years old and the Intellivision was my first console. Some of those updated games you clipped definitely tickled my nostalgia bone. My brother and I used to play the biplanes from Triple Action for hours. The flight physics of that game was crazy advanced for its day. I hope some of these games eventually hit the Switch store.

    • @BriansManCave
      @BriansManCave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here! I still play Intellivision today 🙂

  • @RetroGamerBB
    @RetroGamerBB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A customer at work once asked me "where can do some cornholing" and my dumbass said "in the privacy of your own home" and then he says "beanbag toss" and I'm like oooooooohhh woops

    • @tron.44
      @tron.44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol! I was thinking the same thing. I'm not from the Midwest or anywhere where you'd even hear of cornhole, the sport. But I've heard of cornhole, the nether-region orifice.

    • @jbbrolic
      @jbbrolic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tron.44 I'm from the Northeast and cornholing exist and a small number of people are passionate about it (honestly I think the public events are just an excuse to get drunk.) I don't get it, other similar games (horseshoes and bocce) are much more fun, and in the case of horseshoes requires much cheaper set up (stakes and horseshoes, as opposed to a giant painted wooden board contraption and beanbags.)

  • @FamilyFriendlyGaming
    @FamilyFriendlyGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video and your analysis. For us at FFG we did pre-order one from Gamestop (purple I think) years ago. The thought was its Gamestop so it has to be legit. Last summer we figured it is not coming out ever and we lost that money. Expecting to hear about a class action lawsuit at some point soon.
    We were critical of the Amico in FFG Reacts videos and live streams. Especially short updates from Tommy that made no sense. The company had reached out to us to do stuff for them, and our response was we need the product in hand. The thing that always confused us is there are videos showing the working systems. That was a big warning flag for us. If you are showing working systems why aren't they coming out? Ship a few here or there.
    The whole treating gaming press and content creators like slave labor is something that happens with a lot of video game companies. We have written extensively about that horrible attitude from too many in PR and Marketing. They want us to make them all this money, and our reward is more work that makes them even more money. We call them millionaire moochers.
    The Evercade has been great. Got or purchased every single system and cartridge. Definitely worth the money. I hope you do a video about the Evercade at some point.

  • @poboxchristmas380
    @poboxchristmas380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    26:20 Can we even give Tallarico credit for Terminator? Did you see Joey Kuras saying that those are actually his songs? The same guy that made the oof sound that Tommy still takes credit for.

    • @ezg2000
      @ezg2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of the songs from Terminator was made by his high school band (Destination Unknown is the song). Tommy took their song and put it on Terminator and only gave himself the credit.

    • @poboxchristmas380
      @poboxchristmas380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ezg2000 yet Phil Adam won't take credit for one of his famous past projects!

    • @ezg2000
      @ezg2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@poboxchristmas380 Yep. In tommy terms "Now ask yourself. Why is that?"

    • @poboxchristmas380
      @poboxchristmas380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ezg2000 in DJC terms: that's just the way it goes!

  • @peter0071000
    @peter0071000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Compulsive liars appear to be quite common. I have known 4 or 5 in my life time. Tommy is just another one.

  • @colt5189
    @colt5189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still hope we get another 16-bit Earthworm Jim game. Something based on the original kind of like Sonic Mania.

  • @j.makison1547
    @j.makison1547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I really like these long form videos. Would definitely like to see more. Awesome job man!

  • @PongbyAtari
    @PongbyAtari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You absolutely nailed it this is the best explanation of the whole Amico debacle.

  • @Rationalific
    @Rationalific ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Little did you know when making this long-form video that a 2-hour video about "OOF" would be made about Tommy, followed by a 4-hour video about this saga. But this video gives a good overview about the Amico story, and something that the longer videos don't even go into, which is why even if this came out, it would have been set to fail. Tommy didn't know whether to go the Wii/mobile/casual route or the retro route, and the Amico would have failed at both, as there was never a killer app (and Earthworm Jim 4 was simply a fake mock-up). And almost none of the hinted-at and even promised games even got started. It's 5 months since your video debuted, and I guess that the "problem" at 23:20 still hasn't been fixed...

  • @JakeRandall
    @JakeRandall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I got to play the Amiico when Tommy came to Boston and it was honestly fun. Also can’t believe no mentions that Tommy’s cousin is Steven Tyler of Aerosmith, always a fun fact! (Tyler changed his name from Tallerico but they are cousins!)

    • @RGT85
      @RGT85  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol true

    • @poboxchristmas380
      @poboxchristmas380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nobody can forget about Steven Tyler, Tommy mentions it in every single interview.

    • @ezg2000
      @ezg2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RGT85 I think you need to do a part 2. There's more layers to this story.

    • @ezg2000
      @ezg2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@poboxchristmas380 Tommy can never pass up an opportunity to chase some clout.

    • @SoUnDMaN831
      @SoUnDMaN831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have a feeling Steven Tyler is not impressed by his cousin.

  • @DaveVoyles
    @DaveVoyles ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So many TH-camrs went from promoting the product to suddenly hating on it

  • @shiro_akechi
    @shiro_akechi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Atari VCS had a very similar story, but at least that system was actually released.

  • @jonnjonzz5702
    @jonnjonzz5702 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Pat and Ian tried to tell everyone...

  • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
    @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is why you be a customer and not a consumer. You only have yourself to blame blindly consuming

  • @ladynikkie
    @ladynikkie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When I first saw it, I thought maybe it had some potential but the problem was they had the wrong people running that project.

  • @williss1192
    @williss1192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Remember when Amico said they would partner up with Evercade?

  • @dracovania
    @dracovania 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Always great to see and hear the tru relevant and professional TH-camrs provide coverage to the Amico story

    • @dracovania
      @dracovania 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LoL it's that you Tommy? Is this another of your scams?! 🤣

  • @Gremlack13
    @Gremlack13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m glad you are putting together a more comprehensive video of the bits of conversation that pat and Ian have been having for quite some time.
    Thank you for being the only other channel I’ve seen cover it ever.

  • @ideitbawxproductions1880
    @ideitbawxproductions1880 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This may seem odd to point out, but so many of these clips of Tommy show him having some serious raccoon eyes. I can only think of 3 reasons for that:
    1) He keeps getting into fights and his opponent keeps aiming for the eyes
    2) He's stressed way out and over-tired
    3) Drugs. Lots of drugs

  • @corndog9482
    @corndog9482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I was serving in the Navy, an Admiral would sometimes come and speak at events. Do you know how questions to the Admiral were handled? The askers of questions were pre-selected long before the event, were given note cards with questions on them pre-written by upper chain-of-command, and were to ask them as if they were their own. This is how much of the world operates, even in _seemingly_ legitimate organizations, such as "government" ones.

  • @nikishh1
    @nikishh1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks like most of those moneys went to his wrist watch. Looks like he has an a few Richard Milles

  • @NICKTHIZZEZ
    @NICKTHIZZEZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tommy sounds like Bee-Otchhh

  • @Oboewan
    @Oboewan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Amico created the death of Earthworm Jim by making the game exclusive.

    • @thecunninlynguist
      @thecunninlynguist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah. Dammit tommy

    • @PacDork
      @PacDork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They never developed the game. They just showed a visual pitch/animation test. If anyone REALLY wanted to make a new EWJ game, they could have easily done it on existing platforms.

    • @CaptAwesumNo1Zone
      @CaptAwesumNo1Zone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish we could get Earthworm Jim into better hands, there should of been an Earthworm Jim collection by now

    • @XanthinZarda
      @XanthinZarda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CaptAwesumNo1Zone Yeah, it would be nice to keep Earthworm Jim away from Doug TenNepal.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 ปีที่แล้ว

      They never even had the rights to make it. All Tommy had was a barbecue with the original team. Where many discovered Doug Tenapels views for the first time and claim they made it clear they wouldn't work with him after some of the things he said. And Tommy presented a barbecue that didn't go entirely well, as "we have the game"
      In top of that, according to people involved, they said the Amico was so underpowered that the only game Perry thought they could make was a mini game collection.

  • @sonictonic_
    @sonictonic_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a lot of respect for Tommy’s contributions to the industry, and this whole situation saddens me. I preordered an Amico because I believed in him, but canceled after the second delay. For the record though I was given a refund on my deposit without question or hassle.

    • @1musicalspirit
      @1musicalspirit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's good you got your refund. people are having a hard time getting their money back now though. Intellivision themselves have basically admitted they no longer have the money to issue refunds.

    • @ladynikkie
      @ladynikkie ปีที่แล้ว

      You're lucky you got yours there are still people that still haven't received anything let alone their refund. Meanwhile, Tommy is still doing his video games live thing like nothing ever happened

  • @salvadormendoza5045
    @salvadormendoza5045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tommy ruined whatever "hype" this system had going for it... Never go after gamers/consumers...

  • @budbrigman
    @budbrigman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “DOOD. You hatin’ on FARKLE?!?”
    My retro gaming itch right now is being scratched by an i5 Core PC in my X-Men vs Street Fighter Arcade1Up cabinet. Having a blast playing arcade games I haven’t seen in decades. No way I’d pay for the Atari and Intellivision systems.

  • @thingsiplay
    @thingsiplay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not my boy Tommy :-( I didn't know about this story. I know Tommy still from his time in the 90s, soundtracks and such. Man, I still love his work he did back then.

    • @rgt_85_29
      @rgt_85_29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      👆👆Congratulation winners
      Inbox me for your price❤️📤👆

  • @andrewbrooks2001
    @andrewbrooks2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was really interested in the system honestly. I saw the tech demos and videos regarding game development and "reimagined" Intellivision and other retro titles. I pre-order a system with high hopes. But ended up canceling the pre-order due to all the delays and drama.

  • @meekstud
    @meekstud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What is everyone going to do with their “physical games” they bought? Those RFID cards are worthless even though people spend money on them. I think Tommy has some serious apologies to make!

    • @XanthinZarda
      @XanthinZarda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They'll be the AOL CDs of the new age, great coasters and pucks to toss around!

  • @TroutButter
    @TroutButter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I originally had the same interest as RGT in that it was supposed to bring back old IPs from classic games I liked. Being able to play the originals on a modern TV plus having remakes sounded good. Plus EJ4! So I paid my $100 for the pre-order of the founder's edition in woodgrain. But after everything, earlier this year I requested my $100 back and thankfully I got it.
    The evercade is awesome and I look forward to the new unit coming later this year. I have the two Intellivision carts for it and this is what Intellivision should have done since the beginning, focus on software licensing and new software for current systems as well as things like the evercade.
    What was both funny and sad is there were a few people who took a few days to a week doing a remake of an Intellivision game that was supposed to be on the Amico and developed it in Unity (which is how Amico games were being developed as well) and the games ended up looking and playing better than what Intellivision was supposedly working on for years.

    • @scot30
      @scot30 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait...we can get our money back??? How does one go about requesting the refund? I also put down $100 back in January 2020 for the Founder's Edition Amico. I was excited about this at one time. Now I have no interest in it, and decided a while back that I probably wouldn't be receiving it.

  • @nicholsliwilson
    @nicholsliwilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t think the Amico was a scam I just don’t think it ever had any clear direction or aim & I think it’s been mismanaged by people who honestly don’t know what they’re doing? @RGT 85

  • @dannyjablonski8129
    @dannyjablonski8129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I pre ordered thinking it was going to be a good time and I will never see that money

  • @Reesej0520
    @Reesej0520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is an even bigger scam than the Coleco Chameleon

  • @heyitssherri175
    @heyitssherri175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The games weren't exclusive to Amico because of licensing issues. Tommy claimed, endlessly, that the games could ONLY be played on the Amico because they were made for the over-engineered pieces of trash he wanted as controllers.

  • @qphlat27
    @qphlat27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video. But as someone who has been following this situation for a long time.. man oh man you missed alot. And yes, keep the long form content coming.

  • @GenerationalGamer
    @GenerationalGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Former Amico "cult" member here. I have since been refunded after a lot of screeching, behind the scene. I noticed that I appeared at the 12:02 mark in this video. None of my Amico videos are still on my channel. Even though I no longer feature the Amico on my channel, Tommy absolutely helped it. He gave me exposure when I sorely needed it. For that I am incredibly grateful, even if I no longer advocate for the console. If I still remain on the Amico channel, then that is fine. I was a supporter. I still have the original Intellivision and was excited to play this one (one day). At this point, I would buy the games if they come to the Switch, but I would almost certainly not buy a console, even if it came to retail.

  • @EvaFull
    @EvaFull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Going to go enjoy my iiRcade & Colecovision Phoenix which both managed to get funded & release during the whole Amico mess.

  • @jordanwhite352
    @jordanwhite352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Two dead platforms in 48 hours, on a roll here!

    • @maxpops8427
      @maxpops8427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whats the other platform

    • @flywithmexojb
      @flywithmexojb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxpops8427 stadia

  • @webjoeking
    @webjoeking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They didn’t under deliver, they didn’t deliver.

  • @jackmyowl
    @jackmyowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    *"Praise be to thee RGT85, thee great Nintendo game prophet"*
    *"He hath spoken thy truths of thee screw ups these swindlers hath said"*

    • @stevesstuff1450
      @stevesstuff1450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Almost.... thou has't nearly affected the diction in its' correctness.
      Thou should hath spake:- "Praise be to thee RGT85, thou great Nintendo game prophet. Thine words hath verily revealed the falsehoods of these swindlers."
      Just kidding though; it takes a lot to write in the old tongue! ; -)

    • @rainerscherzkeks7766
      @rainerscherzkeks7766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevesstuff1450 ... reading... it takes reading.... 😋

    • @twig-e6431
      @twig-e6431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Methinks you should pony up the cavalry, because in this age of chivalry and malice, thou shalt not stand for the bribery and treason of such wretched peons. Storm the Amico gates and strike down the avenged. Smite thee upon us with battened down hatchets and severed scythes. Here ye, here he!
      I have no idea what I was getting at here! 🙃

  • @mr_indie_fan
    @mr_indie_fan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "People today don't care about earthworm jim" im a gen z (teen) and i love earthworm jim, of course i have always been into retro games but i even have the earthworm jim show on dvd and watch it regularly! (The show is hilarious and awesome)

  • @uhtyp1
    @uhtyp1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought RGT 85 stands for Real Gamers Tube 85 and I rolled with it for years not knowing what it really stands for until now.

  • @SebastianSkadisson
    @SebastianSkadisson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I've only heard once of the system, when David Perry mentioned it shortly. I personally have decided for me that i will not back any projects in crowd funding sites any longer, neither will i ever buy or pre-order any Early Access game that isn't an already functional multiplayer game where friends invite me to play it with them. Not because i don't believe in people's ability to make great products, but because the rate of failure through crowd funding is way too high to justify pumping trust and money into it. And you don't even have to be looking at gaming specifically, when ever you give someone the money for a product or service upfront, you as the consumer are very lucky when what comes out of the deal will actually meet the requirements both of you set with the money transfer.
    In Game Making, when a dev or a studio gets their entire funding upfront, they usually can't handle the freedom they are given if they don't have a strict and brutal budget oversight, ready to battle anyone who wants their part of the project to become bigger than it initially was thought of. That's simply it - they loose all grip on the core idea and functionality and run into mazes of features and grand ideas. There doesn't have to be any ill will on anyone's part, naivity and blind trust is enough.
    That's why i can't possibly support any crowd funding or even Early Access pre-purchase in Game Development any longer.
    The DirectX team, who invented the XBox, as the best example, didn't get anything for their prototype, they had to resolve to literal "borrowing" of hardware, hacking and basically gluing scraps together to revolutionize the console market with a console that's able to use state of the art PC hardware components. Only when their prototype was functional with everything they needed for a gaming console to work, they got the budget. So to me that means massive funding upfront, and only then the concept and functional prototype afterwards, will never lead to a satisfactory outcome, especially in super creative fields. And even then, when the setup is perfect, there can still always be egos or external interests that completely scew the original vision, so even when you have a project set up where the prototype was functional before the real budget came, you still have a relatively high possibility of failure.

  • @MadPanicGaming
    @MadPanicGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What really surprised me was that there was a group of people that were hotly anticipating the release of the Amico. It looks, lame for lack of a better term. I never understood some people's fascination with it.
    Edit: You explained it pretty well lol, most "fans" were either an investor or they were in love with Tommy. Got it.

  • @BrianKapellusch
    @BrianKapellusch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was an Intellivision kid so when I heard someone was making a new one I was super excited. Then, I saw the controller. The one thing I hated about the original Intellivision. I get that they did it as some kind of nostalgia-sparking thing that sounded cool at the time. But, as we found out with the Wii U, such a thing is way more effort than it's worth.
    Without the stupid controller design, this thing probably would have released 2 years ago. I'm sure it would've sucked but maybe they actually would have at least broke even.
    All it is now is a huge stain on the Intellivision name.

    • @brianralli7428
      @brianralli7428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I'm also an Intellivision kid. The crazy controller makes the games unplayable on any other emulated system other than a lot of basic games like Astrosmash that don't depend on the numerical pad. The disc control was always weird. I always used a joystick mod that replaced the disc.

  • @RobbieAdamss
    @RobbieAdamss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Expect a independent small documentary on the failure and scam of the Amico

  • @filbert910
    @filbert910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This always felt like a pyramid scheme to me.

  • @JGKingCrusher
    @JGKingCrusher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish they would actually just release a classics collection on all the systems of old Intellivision system games. Tron:Deadly Discs immediately comes to mind. But to make a new "system" and play off that nostalgia? No.

  • @DragonHeart613
    @DragonHeart613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:48 = My brother & I care about Earthworm Jim. We grew up playing the games & watching the animated show.
    5:57 = We have it on Super Nintendo.

  • @Swordslinger-hb1ns
    @Swordslinger-hb1ns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Two words to sum up the Intellivision Amico: Ponzi Scheme.

  • @danglover
    @danglover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To be fair the corn hole game on the Wii, Target Toss Pro: Bags, is really good.

  • @commonsensei8719
    @commonsensei8719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:00 Greatly spoken my friend. I believe it was Bob Marley who sang about isms and schisms as well. Wise words all to relevant these days...

  • @mirukuchan
    @mirukuchan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    tommy lost the battle against the gaming racists

  • @hankugly6800
    @hankugly6800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Products like these reaffirm that the current best budget retro system is the series S. If you know, you know.

  • @saltytbone
    @saltytbone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I bought into the Amico and then saw Tommy T. wearing that shirt, I would've become very concerned.

  • @KayWhyEllie1
    @KayWhyEllie1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey RGT great video it was a really entertaining story told very well and informative, also what a joke this console has become jeez

  • @skougi
    @skougi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good video format, def some tuning to the flow, but overall enjoyed it. fascinating topic. very illuminating. I saw someone complaining about you in the weirdest way earlier on reddit (choice of hat, seriously -_-).... and now the whole interaction makes more sense. I think you may have stepped on some toes doing this long form. thanks for posting.

  • @masterquake7
    @masterquake7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought into it for two reasons: my console collection, and Earthworm Jim. I didn't have much stake in the rest of it. I figured it would at least come out and flop.

  • @josephpiedmonte
    @josephpiedmonte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the controller killed it, would have been released over a year ago had it just been a standard wireless controller

  • @MedalionDS9
    @MedalionDS9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tommy Tallarico... I know him best as the dude I used to watch co-host The Electric Playground back in the late 90's.. a show that shot in Vancouver, and I used to live near there which I thought was so cool

    • @poboxchristmas380
      @poboxchristmas380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah, he always gave horrible, lazy reviews on there.

  • @johannesvonaurend5532
    @johannesvonaurend5532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey RGT85 loved seeing your name in lights on the ECW and wanted to share a confirmed Pokemon tidbit.
    Ed Sheeran dropped a new song and video with the Pokemon Company. In his official video for the song Celestials he confirms in his pinned comment it's actually in the game for Scarlett and Violet. Thought you may get a kick out of it. And RIP Coolio. thanks for all the amazing content. I start my mornings with a coffee and your videos! Cheers.

  • @guardianbeardizer6361
    @guardianbeardizer6361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God I remember the Retro console or as I called "Finding a new use for old Atari Jaguar shells"

  • @benkizer9509
    @benkizer9509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Do more of these long form deep dives.

  • @casperthemarioforeverfan7341
    @casperthemarioforeverfan7341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amico is more like Coleco Chameleon 2.0, but at least it's not a SNES mini duct taped in a Atari Jaguar shell or a DVR card disguised as a prototype

  • @dayglo_laughs
    @dayglo_laughs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I have no problem with a long video. This was such a great analysis. I completely forgot about the Intelivision before this video!

  • @ComradeChyrk
    @ComradeChyrk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, the best decision they could make at this point is to are the console and sell the games on other platforms to try to recoup as much of the cost as they can.

  • @burntearth85
    @burntearth85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like how you covered it concisely, instead of rambling on forever like Pat and Ian.

  • @kadosho02
    @kadosho02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember Video Games Live had some obstacles. Plus Tommy's collaboration with BT on producing "Electronic Opus". Sigh that's a story all its own 😔