Squawky? Don’t you mean crystalin? I think this piano brand is much warmer sounding than any Yamaha and maybe a tad bit warmer than Kawai, whom is making pianos in Chinese factories for the last couple of years which I find shocking considering how much the average Chinese hates the Japanese on any given day with the history between these two countries. I think Seiler has made the grade on their piano manufacturing lately and has great value for someone wanting a fine instrument. Been watching and playing them here and there for the last few years.
Thanks for your reply. I listened again and I still hear a "squawky" distortion. Having listened to several other recent recordings by Living Pianos I am of the opinion that the distortion I am hearing is in the mic or recording equipment. Thanks for that.
Stephen Reid with that said I understand better what you could be referring to. I listened several more times to wrap my mind around your term squawky. As a piano tuner it sounds like the sympathetic harmonics on this scale design may be what you are referring to. Steinway’s and Mason & Hamlin have their own very distinct sympathetic harmonics. This Squawky sound may be Seiler’s distinction. Maybe some very special tuning tweaking could reduce or improve that. Only the very experienced timers could do that. I’m not in that category. Thanks for your reply.
Thanks Kristopher. I just don't think this is related to harmonics, which as you will know are very complex and, mostly, very beautiful. The other videos of Robert's that I listened to were Steinway, Mason and Hamlin and Bosendorfer and this is what has convinced myself that the quality of sound was being compromised. (I am well used to being called a piano "snob" and am aware that I seek a sharp crystal-clear sound that others are not often looking for!) However, when I listened to this recording: th-cam.com/video/nf4WiW3Sijw/w-d-xo.html I heard the clarity and sharpness that I had been missing!
Great piano ! I would be happy w that as a private practice /daily grinder instrument, now would it knock my dream instrument(one of them ) a Chris Maene (Belgium) straight strung grand .... Probably not but I also would be hesitant to have an Apex level instrument like that be a daily beater , so even if someone has the means to go Maene, Ravenscroft, Borgato , Faz...etc , there is a place but a top tier mass produced instrument in those homes /studios as well, if I was teaching and had a Shigeru SK7 as my piano, I would happily have one of those be the student/teaching one right along side it.
Would you consider the ED line in the same quality range as an Estonia or the SE line? Nice tone, but I think it lacks a little sparkle. Could be the room mic, though. Love your channel and all your videos! Thank you for all your work :)
I've been looking all over the Internet to get information cuz I want to get a good used piano. Unfortunately with everything that's going on I don't have the 15 to $20,000 I would want to spend on a really quality upright unfortunately. When I was in kindergarten about 43 years ago my grandmother bought me a Kimball piano which was a good starter piano for the young kiddo I progressed into my 11th year of lessons we were driving back from New Hampshire and we came across a piano store called Melody farms in Vermont. Ended up purchasing a Yamaha U1 which I had 4 many years and then when I moved away from my parents they ended up selling it to a musician down in New York. My aunt who got me into piano has owned the same Steinway K series upright since I've known her the pianos decades-old and still has an amazing strong sound. To be honest with you most of the time I've been very disappointed with the pianos that I played on the side from the Steinway that I played that was owned by my instructor teacher Yamaha I found very just average which brings me to my question. I am very sensitive to sound I would consider myself an advanced intermediate about close to 20 years of lessons another 5 or 6 years I'm just playing without taking lessons so would it make sense just to stick with the Roland digital that I have now because when I put the headphones on it sounds like the most perfect piano sound comforting accentuated just a pleasure to listen to. Unfortunately when I put the speakers on it sounds okay but it doesn't have the sound example the baby grand that you're playing right now on the video. I was actually almost thinking about getting a fandrich used at least that has hands touching the piano compared to an assembly line of machines putting together identical pianos akin to cookie cutter homes in a large development. My only other option I think is my friend has an Old Chicago style piano out from the early 1900's I want to play that that also has a warm tone and I think it comes from the wood that's being used probably there was more lumber more quality would then we have today and I think it really affects the tone I really don't want to mass-produce piano I want something to sound special warm inviting and it's just easy on the ears. Any thoughts or recommendations for a piano snob it doesn't have a ton of money. Email....seasontorun@gmail.com
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Deep base, no muddy sound, not thin, round mature sound, great projection, not too bright, and natural, I can't complain, this becomes my top choice!
You sound like a top expert with all the essential qualities of tone one needs to look @!
I am becoming more and more a fan of you and your music. I thank you for this performance.
maestro Estrin. You always do a nice job with your pianos and your playing.
Maestro.. you made that piano absolutely SING with your Chopin playing! BRAVO!
EXCELLENT CHOICE with the CHOPIN on this one ... gets me to The Pianist movie...
Robert... beautiful sounding piano. I love to touch you have on the G minor Chopin.
I love the quietness of the action on a new piano. I am a Steinway fanatic but this sounds pretty good, just a little "squawky" on the higher notes.
Squawky? Don’t you mean crystalin? I think this piano brand is much warmer sounding than any Yamaha and maybe a tad bit warmer than Kawai, whom is making pianos in Chinese factories for the last couple of years which I find shocking considering how much the average Chinese hates the Japanese on any given day with the history between these two countries. I think Seiler has made the grade on their piano manufacturing lately and has great value for someone wanting a fine instrument. Been watching and playing them here and there for the last few years.
Thanks for your reply. I listened again and I still hear a "squawky" distortion. Having listened to several other recent recordings by Living Pianos I am of the opinion that the distortion I am hearing is in the mic or recording equipment. Thanks for that.
Stephen Reid with that said I understand better what you could be referring to. I listened several more times to wrap my mind around your term squawky. As a piano tuner it sounds like the sympathetic harmonics on this scale design may be what you are referring to. Steinway’s and Mason & Hamlin have their own very distinct sympathetic harmonics. This Squawky sound may be Seiler’s distinction. Maybe some very special tuning tweaking could reduce or improve that. Only the very experienced timers could do that. I’m not in that category. Thanks for your reply.
Thanks Kristopher. I just don't think this is related to harmonics, which as you will know are very complex and, mostly, very beautiful. The other videos of Robert's that I listened to were Steinway, Mason and Hamlin and Bosendorfer and this is what has convinced myself that the quality of sound was being compromised.
(I am well used to being called a piano "snob" and am aware that I seek a sharp crystal-clear sound that others are not often looking for!)
However, when I listened to this recording: th-cam.com/video/nf4WiW3Sijw/w-d-xo.html
I heard the clarity and sharpness that I had been missing!
Great piano ! I would be happy w that as a private practice /daily grinder instrument, now would it knock my dream instrument(one of them ) a Chris Maene (Belgium) straight strung grand .... Probably not but I also would be hesitant to have an Apex level instrument like that be a daily beater , so even if someone has the means to go Maene, Ravenscroft, Borgato , Faz...etc , there is a place but a top tier mass produced instrument in those homes /studios as well, if I was teaching and had a Shigeru SK7 as my piano, I would happily have one of those be the student/teaching one right along side it.
Would you consider the ED line in the same quality range as an Estonia or the SE line? Nice tone, but I think it lacks a little sparkle. Could be the room mic, though. Love your channel and all your videos! Thank you for all your work :)
I've been looking all over the Internet to get information cuz I want to get a good used piano. Unfortunately with everything that's going on I don't have the 15 to $20,000 I would want to spend on a really quality upright unfortunately. When I was in kindergarten about 43 years ago my grandmother bought me a Kimball piano which was a good starter piano for the young kiddo I progressed into my 11th year of lessons we were driving back from New Hampshire and we came across a piano store called Melody farms in Vermont. Ended up purchasing a Yamaha U1 which I had 4 many years and then when I moved away from my parents they ended up selling it to a musician down in New York. My aunt who got me into piano has owned the same Steinway K series upright since I've known her the pianos decades-old and still has an amazing strong sound. To be honest with you most of the time I've been very disappointed with the pianos that I played on the side from the Steinway that I played that was owned by my instructor teacher Yamaha I found very just average which brings me to my question. I am very sensitive to sound I would consider myself an advanced intermediate about close to 20 years of lessons another 5 or 6 years I'm just playing without taking lessons so would it make sense just to stick with the Roland digital that I have now because when I put the headphones on it sounds like the most perfect piano sound comforting accentuated just a pleasure to listen to. Unfortunately when I put the speakers on it sounds okay but it doesn't have the sound example the baby grand that you're playing right now on the video. I was actually almost thinking about getting a fandrich used at least that has hands touching the piano compared to an assembly line of machines putting together identical pianos akin to cookie cutter homes in a large development. My only other option I think is my friend has an Old Chicago style piano out from the early 1900's I want to play that that also has a warm tone and I think it comes from the wood that's being used probably there was more lumber more quality would then we have today and I think it really affects the tone I really don't want to mass-produce piano I want something to sound special warm inviting and it's just easy on the ears. Any thoughts or recommendations for a piano snob it doesn't have a ton of money. Email....seasontorun@gmail.com
This is their mid line..like Bechstein Academy vs C Bechstein...? How does it compare to the SE series ?
I have a ED186A, yours sounds better than mine
Lovely tone. What size and what year?
This is a brand new, 6-foot 10-inch semi-concert grand piano.
I wish I lived near to you.....
How expensive are those pianos? They must be rare,no? Loved the notes on it.
You can see all the Seiler pianos with pictures, videos and pricing right here: livingpianos.com/pianos/
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