I enjoyed the balancing-on-the-knee thing! Try doing any of that with the huge old Bluthner I put new castors on for a customer a few weeks ago; it was as much as I could do to get it to start tilting, on my upright piano tilter (and I'm 6'1"). Actually, putting it back upright was easier (strapped to the tilter of course).
Love the ramp method! I built your dad’s winch and that works just wonderfully, but the ramp looks even easier to use. (Although it might not be usable in a narrow, confining space in a home, so the winch is still a good backup method… ) A question: How thick is the plywood on the ramp? And what are the straps on the ramp for? Your videos are delightfully enjoyable.
The backbreaker is the fastest method. I did it 100s of times and had no trouble with it. Has also the advantage that you need minimal tools, only the trolley. The cradle is allright also, but it is a heavy and cumbersome thing. I have a foldable version so that it fits in a normal car. It is put together with just 4 heavy nuts. I use it only for laying the piano flat on its back.
Your demonstration is impressive even though the piano seems to be quite light. Now, how would you move the piano if you needed to put it on an elevator and it doesn't fit in its normal position? Could I place the piano completely upright on one of its sides?
I've seen someone use the first method, he's pretty strong :) the 2nd would probably be my choice even though it's tedious, the 3rd is hard to do in tight spaces. I remember about 20 years ago or so I was working at a piano store tuning pianos, and I saw someone in his mid / late 50s or so, possibly pushing 60+, without special tools (I've heard some do exist), tip a Steinway D on its side (or set it up, I forget which) all on his own, without anyone else helping.
I'm a retired technician. Ohhhh, the stories I have about customers that moved or attempted to move their own 88. From broken pianos to broken people. A few hundred bucks/quid to move it or pay for property/piano/chiropractor work. Rather, pay the "man" to move the bloody thing!!
I refused to move wifes sisters piano when they were getting rid of it, but never got the men to load it into a car. No problem, you two can move it! no, we cant grow new spines or hand tendons!
I think I am going to get help should I need to move my piano. Been thinking about doing it. Could mostly roll, but have to get it across carpet. In the states, we would call it a dolly...
I like your Dad's inventions. Listen bud, take it from a professional marketer, you need to mention the name of your company and link a website in the description. Free advertising!
I had one about that size while in college. Moved into a second floor apartment. My friend who was a lineman (american football) and I picked it up and carried it upstairs. The people around the pool applauded when we got to the top. Someone yelled "you're nuts". Young and dumb.
Pretty sure that frame is empty. There is no way a man of your size is deadlifting an upright that size with the harp inside, unless they started making them out of carbon fiber instead of cast iron.
You're wrong!! He's not lifting the whole piano, he's only tipping it. I worked for a piano mover years ago and it's actually pretty easy to tilt an upright piano to get a dolly under it. Even concert grands are not that hard to move once you know the proper way to do it.
My piano weights bout 200 kg. There is no way you can move it that easy, especially the first method is a joke. There is no way you can lift the edges of my piano and get that trolley in under on your own.
Very clever and safe , thanks for your sharing
What are the spec on your dad winch? Any other photos you could share. Thank you, loved the demostrations.
I enjoyed the balancing-on-the-knee thing! Try doing any of that with the huge old Bluthner I put new castors on for a customer a few weeks ago; it was as much as I could do to get it to start tilting, on my upright piano tilter (and I'm 6'1"). Actually, putting it back upright was easier (strapped to the tilter of course).
Love the ramp method! I built your dad’s winch and that works just wonderfully, but the ramp looks even easier to use. (Although it might not be usable in a narrow, confining space in a home, so the winch is still a good backup method… ) A question: How thick is the plywood on the ramp? And what are the straps on the ramp for?
Your videos are delightfully enjoyable.
I need a cup of tea after watching this. ☕️
Ha ha ha 😂😂 thanks Mark, I am moving my vintage piano tomorrow by myself, will follow every step
How did it go?
@mokenistic, I'll play along with your humor. Before you do, ask Mark to sign an unrecoverable damage insurance contract for?
Every time I've ordered "professional piano movers" it's just been two dudes carrying it by hand up and down the stairs
The backbreaker is the fastest method. I did it 100s of times and had no trouble with it. Has also the advantage that you need minimal tools, only the trolley. The cradle is allright also, but it is a heavy and cumbersome thing. I have a foldable version so that it fits in a normal car. It is put together with just 4 heavy nuts. I use it only for laying the piano flat on its back.
Your demonstration is impressive even though the piano seems to be quite light.
Now, how would you move the piano if you needed to put it on an elevator and it doesn't fit in its normal position?
Could I place the piano completely upright on one of its sides?
Yes it's very common to rotate the piano 90 degrees onto its side
can you provide more info on the other devices, they're awesome!
I've seen someone use the first method, he's pretty strong :) the 2nd would probably be my choice even though it's tedious, the 3rd is hard to do in tight spaces.
I remember about 20 years ago or so I was working at a piano store tuning pianos, and I saw someone in his mid / late 50s or so, possibly pushing 60+, without special tools (I've heard some do exist), tip a Steinway D on its side (or set it up, I forget which) all on his own, without anyone else helping.
This man loves his cups of tea 😅
who invented the third device?
I'm a retired technician. Ohhhh, the stories I have about customers that moved or attempted to move their own 88. From broken pianos to broken people. A few hundred bucks/quid to move it or pay for property/piano/chiropractor work. Rather, pay the "man" to move the bloody thing!!
I refused to move wifes sisters piano when they were getting rid of it, but never got the men to load it into a car.
No problem, you two can move it!
no, we cant grow new spines or hand tendons!
I don't need to move a piano but that was entertaining thank you
I think I am going to get help should I need to move my piano. Been thinking about doing it. Could mostly roll, but have to get it across carpet. In the states, we would call it a dolly...
I'd like to see you try to lift the Knabe I've got to move.
Why using a trolley if the piano already has wheels on it?
Those little casters don't work very well on carpet or outdoors, or for moving more than a few feet.
Your dad's a genius.
I do hope that the "cradle" in the third method folds up in some way. It'd take up a ridiculous amount of space otherwise.
Yes it folds very small :)
Pretty small piano
I usually push the piano out of the window and tune it afterwards
Nice
The first line cracked me up!
I like your Dad's inventions. Listen bud, take it from a professional marketer, you need to mention the name of your company and link a website in the description. Free advertising!
Hilarious way to explain it😅
Without the trolly, how many people are needed to move such an upright piano like this one ?
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I had one about that size while in college. Moved into a second floor apartment. My friend who was a lineman (american football) and I picked it up and carried it upstairs. The people around the pool applauded when we got to the top. Someone yelled "you're nuts". Young and dumb.
Well now I want a piano just so I can move it
now I activate my trap card! STAIRS!
My question is what happens when you reach a step or two.
Very easy. Just pivot :)
I am disappointed. When you started winching, I expected the piano to start playing, just like a fair organ.
brilliant
Pretty sure that frame is empty. There is no way a man of your size is deadlifting an upright that size with the harp inside, unless they started making them out of carbon fiber instead of cast iron.
It happened, and I can happen it again easily!
@@MarkGoodwinPianos I actually have a smaller piano I need moved. Come over and show me.
You're wrong!! He's not lifting the whole piano, he's only tipping it. I worked for a piano mover years ago and it's actually pretty easy to tilt an upright piano to get a dolly under it. Even concert grands are not that hard to move once you know the proper way to do it.
?????? 😀 hmm.. maybe your pianos are empty, or it's because I'm German, but I don't really understand it
on the edge of disaster the whole time. that's why it was a good watch.
Once you learn it, you'll be good at it, but once you do it, you'll lose it.
This dude lifts the piano like nothing, try lifting my 400Kg 1890s Bosendorfer like that :D
Either you are a giant or that is tiny piano, or else perhaps a celesta ??....
Never NEVER let anyone move your piano this way.
Which way do you prefer?
what if my piano weighs more than 200 kg
My piano weights bout 200 kg. There is no way you can move it that easy, especially the first method is a joke. There is no way you can lift the edges of my piano and get that trolley in under on your own.
I did the first method three times last week………👍🏼I survived…
Mate you obviously don't move many if any.
The first method is standard
You can even up end on the dilley to manoeuvre in tight doorways
Very clever... I like the cradle...
My piano weighs over 800 pounds (362 KG )
Ain’t no way he can move it that easy.
7:25 piano is tired after these things
There is no way this is real! I've had 4 pianos and needed 4/5 people to move each time! Nice try though!!
You need stronger friends :)
But I have no strength and REALLY want the piano in my bedroom 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Toy piano
Way to complicated