On The Verge: inside Pixar Animation Studios with Monsters University

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  • Bryan Bishop visits Pixar and gets an in-depth, behind-the-scenes look at the animation studio. He also talks to some of the brilliant people behind Monsters University and the accompanying short film The Blue Umbrella. Video by Billy Disney and Jordan Oplinger.
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  • @MalikHatsune
    @MalikHatsune 9 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    Dream Job!

    • @samade9
      @samade9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What does dream job even refer to? What is the job exactly exactly? Because there are tons of different jobs at Pixar.

    • @dxthakid4727
      @dxthakid4727 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sam Adekunle exactly so Malik Hatsune what department would you like to take? Animation Lighting

    • @MalikHatsune
      @MalikHatsune 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Michael Kitambi either character animation or whoever sets up with all the physics and dynamics.. I'm torn.

    • @elisa48092
      @elisa48092 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      3D animator, my dream job♡

    • @tbvh4304
      @tbvh4304 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same!

  • @niccolund310
    @niccolund310 10 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    When I was nine I visited Aardman studios (creators of Wallace and gromit and Shaun the sheep) and since then It has been my dream to be an animator, I have began to model my whole education towards it and hope to one day work at Pixar, I just love being creative!

    • @dxthakid4727
      @dxthakid4727 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nicco Lund well I need to tell you make a digital portfolio (animate a character) using audio from live
      Action movies look at other animations see what you like about it.

    • @miracleshappen4483
      @miracleshappen4483 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blender is open source software to create outstanding animation!

    • @mika-animations
      @mika-animations 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know there’s a difference between stop motion and animation right?

  • @machinimux
    @machinimux 8 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    The story of monsters university is: screw collage, work your way up from the mail room.

    • @Kinobambino
      @Kinobambino 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keulaid 😂😂😂😂

    • @beckettroland4285
      @beckettroland4285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i dont mean to be so offtopic but does any of you know of a trick to get back into an Instagram account??
      I was stupid lost the account password. I would appreciate any assistance you can give me.

    • @karsynfletcher2826
      @karsynfletcher2826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Beckett Roland instablaster :)

  • @2saph2lose28
    @2saph2lose28 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Pixar has been one that always impresses me, and I hope to join them too for animation. Like if you want to do the same

  • @TheKeyToKnowledge
    @TheKeyToKnowledge 11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love how they showed a clip of one of The Incredibles, as she was saying "it is an INCREDIBLY supportive environment" 5:31

  • @TheVerge
    @TheVerge  11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks!

  • @extinctparadise363
    @extinctparadise363 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean I already respected Pixar because every Pixar film I’ve watched always has a beautiful story to tell and it felt like in a way Pixar movies helped mature me throughout my childhood years because of its content and story, it’s not the fairytales and roses that Disney is and that’s a good thing. This video made me love Pixar even more. I hope they never lose sight of their amazing work, and always strive to put every ounce of their passion into their movies.

  • @alexstormist
    @alexstormist 10 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Yep Pixar my dream job:-) Can't wait that day to be there already, I don't know about you people but Pixar is my important thing in my life

    • @alexstormist
      @alexstormist 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** Haha Hope so too :-)

    • @connorbench9472
      @connorbench9472 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Alexstormist My dream job is at Pixar too!!!
      My childhood was enlightened by Pixar and It would be a honour to serve them
      Haha hope you get that job pal :-D

    • @alexstormist
      @alexstormist 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Connor Bench thank you, I hope you will get that job too :) Dreams come true right? :)

    • @alexstormist
      @alexstormist 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Naaaahh who told you that, Well even so, Disney has a lot of money right know, and they always had it, so there is no reason they should worry about that, plus i aint want to be the head, but just a regular computer animator, character design

    • @MaxLipman
      @MaxLipman 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good luck! Follow your dreams!

  • @ghmasterjj
    @ghmasterjj 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    aww yeeaa another mini documentary

  • @gerguven
    @gerguven 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks a lot The Verge! Watching how Pixar works is amazing.

  • @Kopite91LFC
    @Kopite91LFC 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an animation student myself I loved this :)
    Thank You Verge :)

  • @jerrybrittlebank1707
    @jerrybrittlebank1707 8 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Pixar is also my dream job

    • @PikabobAlex
      @PikabobAlex 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      you need to know ... Pixar is not a job

    • @ehabcharek
      @ehabcharek 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      this ^

    • @silaswilliams03
      @silaswilliams03 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same!

    • @Holobrine
      @Holobrine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pixar is my dream employer*

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pixar might be my job in the future. I can create my own show if I have a chance.

  • @TimBahrij
    @TimBahrij 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you thank you thank you!!!!!! This was GREAT!

  • @mariussantos94
    @mariussantos94 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Best Animation studios :) Every film is worth watching. The Verge is one of the best to feature Pixar's Animation Studios!

  • @alessior888
    @alessior888 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're doing a great job The Verge. I follow you every day from Italy.

  •  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent article The Verge, I love Pixar films and was curious to see a report of these, congratulations :)

  • @-TheFacelessGamer-
    @-TheFacelessGamer- 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I hope to one day work at Pixar. I currently am into Animation. I got 1 more year of high school to go so who knows, maybe I'll pursue another path. I got many interests. Video editing/behind the scenes stuff, music, writing like stories and stuff, etc. All of those things I mentioned may be used in an animation. Music for like background stuff, storytelling, editing, all of it. I haven't edited a video but it's interesting to watch behind the scene videos about movies and I love to listen to music but I can't sing or play an instrument. I use to want to make games but I decided that that's not something I like. I think I wanted to because my older brother wants to do that but I don't like the idea of looking at code. Most of the game making, if I'm not mastaken, is mostly code. Animation may have some code but I haven't seen anything that needs it. I use Blender. It's the best software ever. Totally free and comes with probably most, if not all, of the features you can do in paid by subscription software.

    • @vladdev4264
      @vladdev4264 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      did you make it?

    • @-TheFacelessGamer-
      @-TheFacelessGamer- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vladdev4264 Oh god, I forgot I wrote this paragraph. I need to not do that. Lol. I have not made it through that path. I decided that I am more interested in the video production side like live videos. I do animation as a hobby but I want to peruse video production.

  • @drefitnessofficial
    @drefitnessofficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Working really hard to work at pixar one day. I feel so passionate about animation I love it! After my degree im on my way to try and work to the top!

    • @dylanloo9856
      @dylanloo9856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So... How r things now?

    • @drefitnessofficial
      @drefitnessofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dylanloo9856 Damn after two years I see🤣I finished my degree about 3 weeks ago so I'm waiting to graduate and then look for a job.

    • @dylanloo9856
      @dylanloo9856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drefitnessofficial Noice, so u still as passionate about animation as before?

    • @drefitnessofficial
      @drefitnessofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dylanloo9856 Even more passionate...I managed to get an average of 94% for all my subjects.

  • @mariabeatriz3066
    @mariabeatriz3066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    on the verge inside Pixar Animation studios are fantastic animation of Disney

  • @Peter240896
    @Peter240896 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    These features are what make the verge that different. Great work people :)

  • @Stike96official
    @Stike96official 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great little video, I have always found Pixar films to be epic and as they said you can instantly tell a pixar film apart from the rest.

  • @MunterMagazine
    @MunterMagazine 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    the music on all your videos are awesome!!

  • @upixarfan9595
    @upixarfan9595 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a dream come true, I need to work for Pixar!

  • @JensSage
    @JensSage 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome feature, theverge!

  • @mariabeatriznogueira9970
    @mariabeatriznogueira9970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    onthe v erge inside Pixar animation studios with monster sa is an incredible animation of Disney

  • @ZakisBack96
    @ZakisBack96 11 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    5:55- 6:58 *Chokes on Coke* DID I JUST HEAR 6

  • @gohaninengland
    @gohaninengland 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done The Verge

  • @Lukewk1
    @Lukewk1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love pixar!! Toy Story was just the movie i watched again and again and again when i was a child :D

  • @raulespinoza9989
    @raulespinoza9989 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The movie was awesome =)

  • @MrDadalicious
    @MrDadalicious 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool insight into how Pixar works. I found the comment made by the one animator about how he was just a "wrist" while working in LA interesting. In the video games industry (in which I work), there's one camp which says we should move more into Hollywood-style production environments. It looks like Pixar is structured more like a video game developer/publisher and less like a Hollywood producer.

  • @linkpark182
    @linkpark182 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awsome!

  • @RosemaryN78
    @RosemaryN78 ปีที่แล้ว

    They understand creativity. There’s never a wrong answer. New is good

  • @jerrybrittlebank1707
    @jerrybrittlebank1707 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool!

  • @abhishekkar1989
    @abhishekkar1989 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compare this to the Pixar feature that CNET did.... The Verge has always done and excellent job with its feature videos.. keep it up..!

  • @hellokittydimaggio
    @hellokittydimaggio 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now we wait for the third one

  • @mariabeatriznogueira9970
    @mariabeatriznogueira9970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    on the verge inside Pixar animation studios with Monster University is a n incredible animation of disney

  • @JoostterLaak
    @JoostterLaak 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    ALREADY COULDT WAIT ON THIS MOVIE!! so happy that i use permanent caps lock

  • @eytan0127
    @eytan0127 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can’t help but imagine all these real people as Pixar characters hahah

  • @SirIkeMedia
    @SirIkeMedia 10 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    "If there is a problem with the film, we'll all get together and fix it. We won't let go until it's fixed."
    Their last three films proved otherwise.

    • @NickolasFaz
      @NickolasFaz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      what films

    • @liriosogno6762
      @liriosogno6762 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sir Isaac what are you talking about ?

    • @armitx9
      @armitx9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I think he means the good dinosaur, finding dory, and cars 3. finding dory and cars 3 were received as unnecessary sequels while the good dinosaur is the worst-selling pixar film to date.

    • @lukep98
      @lukep98 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Finding Dory is a good movie though and Good Dinosaur is alright but it's more of a tech demo

    • @Holobrine
      @Holobrine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Luke Parsons I think the Good Dinosaur was a mistake because Dinosaurs are supposed to be scary predators, but they made them into squeaky toys.

  • @XxEmowolvexX
    @XxEmowolvexX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Working hard now to get there soon!!

  • @TimothyHalleran
    @TimothyHalleran 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What camera do they use for the videos?

    • @zenova9926
      @zenova9926 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Arri aetheral superanimation camera 16k

  • @Ayakristinable
    @Ayakristinable 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    So interesting! I'd really like to work at pixar one day

  • @joshy1024
    @joshy1024 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cars 2 and Brave were getting kinda boring but Monsters University I think is the movie that finally brought Pixar back to what they are best known for

  • @ivanlaping1577
    @ivanlaping1577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dream job

  • @MrViperFM
    @MrViperFM 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great :)

  • @sakurachannel9624
    @sakurachannel9624 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    my dream job is to work at Dreamworks animation studio it sounds so awesome and eventful

  • @fyreforce1476
    @fyreforce1476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just realized how old this movie is.... wow. I was so young! I remember HATING IT when it first came out, along with the first monsters inc. but now I love it, I have a tendency to do that. (Is that normal?) but anyway, I haven’t watched it in forever. Pixar: DREEEEEEEEAM JOOOOOOOOOB!!

  • @danielaurista
    @danielaurista 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool,I met the producers 2.Dan Scalon,and Kari Rae,I 4 got 2 ask,what ever happend 2 that scene when Mike Wasoski was being turned 2 a disco ball?I don't remember ceing it in the film.

  • @bryanandrade7996
    @bryanandrade7996 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes.

  • @katlegoassegaai4644
    @katlegoassegaai4644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched monsters university in 2013 in cinemas in 3D.

  • @hellomello3711
    @hellomello3711 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know what's software Mann use? (2:58)

  • @Hoo_huu
    @Hoo_huu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanna be a part of this crew crew 😭

  • @bryeebeast5468
    @bryeebeast5468 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who doesn't love toys like john laseder old and young

  • @mariabeatriznogueira9970
    @mariabeatriznogueira9970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    toy story is the most beautifull animation I have ever seen

  • @fortrieb
    @fortrieb 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anybody tell me the name of the software used @4:50 on this linux machine?

  • @JDCALDECOTT
    @JDCALDECOTT 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you steve.

  • @luisfernandocuestasanchez4343
    @luisfernandocuestasanchez4343 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ironic that in the Steve jobs building from Pixar they don't use apple computers to make their job, they just use an apple screen connected to a HP CPU.

    • @hellomello3711
      @hellomello3711 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cause you need bigger specs for making such a huge animation. Apple won't able to do it.

    • @christopheralvarado4544
      @christopheralvarado4544 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Salv Studio Apple CAN do it. But what's the point.

    • @T3KNUG3T5
      @T3KNUG3T5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And it's funny because they aren't using Windows or Apple lol. Linux is perfect

    • @cotmouf
      @cotmouf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@T3KNUG3T5 Fun fact! They use redhat and opensuse

    • @luisfernandocuestasanchez4343
      @luisfernandocuestasanchez4343 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hellomello3711 I agree.

  • @deffmau5
    @deffmau5 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was an alright movie

  • @USNationalSecurityAgency
    @USNationalSecurityAgency 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg The logo CAN TALK

  • @oatwhisk
    @oatwhisk 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's called "appreciation"...

  • @xboxreviewmaster
    @xboxreviewmaster 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    what was the song in the short?

  • @isaaclee5123
    @isaaclee5123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lets just assume this is everyones dream job

  • @evancobb2554
    @evancobb2554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Alvy, Edwin, George Lucas and Steve Jobs for making all of this possible

  • @benritchie2287
    @benritchie2287 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went to see monsters university in 3d yesterday was a good film dont know which is better university or inc they're both good the blue umbrella short film was good aswell :)

    • @Daddyvader7
      @Daddyvader7 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ben Ritchie I like both but university I loved

  • @BlenderDumbass
    @BlenderDumbass 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to work at Blender-Foundation. Hell even Colin Levy ( credited in Inside Out ) left Pixar in favor of Blender Foundation

  • @carlosvenu
    @carlosvenu 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi which lens you are using for your filminh?

  • @dilipkn7339
    @dilipkn7339 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    which software is used here!

  • @ErikRicardoLC
    @ErikRicardoLC 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Their software is called Marionette. Do you own a Pixar movie disk? They named it every in every DVD/BD

  • @neymarfreitez2697
    @neymarfreitez2697 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's that a Software 3D Modeling

  • @3indabity52
    @3indabity52 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats the song at0:15

  • @empyrical
    @empyrical 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Pixar used to use a piece of software called Marionette, but they now use animation software they call "Presto"

  • @crumbsonthefloor195
    @crumbsonthefloor195 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting

  • @mariabeatriznogueira9970
    @mariabeatriznogueira9970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    toy story is an incredible animation of Disney

  • @mariabeatriz3066
    @mariabeatriz3066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    toy story monster are creative animations of disney

  • @ushakitchen7816
    @ushakitchen7816 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Buckle up pixar... Cause A great animator is on his way for you

  • @RafiqulJaved
    @RafiqulJaved 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Steve Jobs for Pixar

  • @70sman
    @70sman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    God I wish that were me

  • @mika-animations
    @mika-animations 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:13
    Hey I don’t remember this monster from the movies?

  • @MarcoDAmbrosTD
    @MarcoDAmbrosTD 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    the name should be "Marionette" is an internatl pixar software (is not commercial)

  • @fenrir-art4742
    @fenrir-art4742 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been there. Had okay lunch there years ago. It is not all as it seems. Gave them fun plot to Incredibles 2 which they butchered for this years story which was worse than what I helped out with as much as I could.

  • @joerivde
    @joerivde 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7:22 which software is that?

    • @ImpiusNex
      @ImpiusNex 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same software seen at 4:52, which I believe is Marionette/Menv/Presto

    • @Brayanglrt
      @Brayanglrt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adrien Tougas Or Autodesk Maya

    • @ImpiusNex
      @ImpiusNex 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Brayan Gameplays It's not Maya. I use Maya all the time.

    • @Brayanglrt
      @Brayanglrt 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      hum

    • @ImpiusNex
      @ImpiusNex 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm pretty sure its Menv, if you look in the top corner you'll see a stylized text 'MENV'.

  • @norielove460
    @norielove460 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope one of those 6 movies they're working on is Incredibles 2

    • @DirectorTaffy
      @DirectorTaffy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nono luckily it should be coming out so Huzzah

  • @R3Cat
    @R3Cat 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    why was this reuploaded? :/

  • @lflee
    @lflee 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:16, why was the designer holding a violin?

  • @moviesnerdsoutpost9221
    @moviesnerdsoutpost9221 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    pixer is perfect

  • @PunkRatSoda
    @PunkRatSoda 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Squid: Works on sushi shop
    Also sushi shop: Sells squid meat
    *Ironic.*

  • @irajatsolanki
    @irajatsolanki 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    good bring tron uprising

  • @JLParent
    @JLParent 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most of the studio uses Macs, but some departments prefer a Linux.

    • @dxthakid4727
      @dxthakid4727 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jean-Luc Parent they use high end powerful PCs and Macs aren't made with the most amazing graphics cards and stuff like that, it was not made for businesses and casual stuff the software at Pixar absolutely DEPENDS on the good PC

  • @Som3D
    @Som3D 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So many Pixar siquals and we never got WALI 2

  • @doyks_1845
    @doyks_1845 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn that face 3:13

  • @kennethsalinas
    @kennethsalinas 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pixar please make the sequel... I miss Boo :(

  • @KnightSirM
    @KnightSirM 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    i felt you should of shown more...probably a day to day work day..... what you just done was introduction to Pixar

  • @KnightSirM
    @KnightSirM 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    all you need to do is animate a short piece and if they like it... they'll hire you... thats what it says on there Careers section on their webpage ; )

  •  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's not blender, they have their own software ;) !!!

    • @lily-vt8ic
      @lily-vt8ic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's called "Pixar Marionette"

  • @marlonnavarroza462
    @marlonnavarroza462 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    im a 7YEAR OLD KID that makes 3D @nimation B-) 😎

  • @THEMRXD-ni1zw
    @THEMRXD-ni1zw 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go Go Go WTF ?¿ 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲

  • @DanielRoa
    @DanielRoa 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    So monsters inc says mike and sully met in 4th grade. This movie says they met in college.

    • @DirectorTaffy
      @DirectorTaffy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Roa I saw that too, and thought it was funny they didn't see that

  • @FullCourtFx
    @FullCourtFx 10 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Its strange.... I did not see one Asian person during this video

    • @veewhy96
      @veewhy96 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Asian would work for science and engineer companies

    • @SirIkeMedia
      @SirIkeMedia 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They only hire white people.

    • @samade9
      @samade9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know of 2 black people that work a Pixar

    • @WildAnimalChannel
      @WildAnimalChannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Because it's America not Asia?

  • @luc7224
    @luc7224 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    12th

  • @fenrir-art4742
    @fenrir-art4742 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liked Animal House more.