The Polish Paradox | Tracks East | ARTE.tv Documentary
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2023
- Tracks East finds out how militarisation, migration, and an increasing polarisation within society are affecting the mood in Poland as elections approach.
The Polish Paradox | Tracks East | ARTE.tv Documentary
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Everything is fine, but it's a bit like Polish television made a program about a member of AFD, Antifa and the Muslim brotherhood and then said that it was the opinion of ordinary Germans xD
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Wait. This documentary refers to the Polish society and, as I get it, tries to identify its major strands of thought. However, it takes a wrong approach.
First of all, the people who speak belong to fringe pressure groups. Whether they fight for just causes or not is something to debate about (I personnally believe their causes are just). However, they do not have any relationship with the Polish social classes and the everyday working person, whether poor or rich. Meanwhile, some of them come to have no real relation with Poland whatsoever, as the mormons who are living in the UK. Where are the priests, the PiS and Civic Platform supporters, where is the industrial worker, the small shop owner, the corporate agent, the banker, the oligarch ? The only person with a connection to the Polish society in there is the taxi driver. All other people can be found, with small differences, in any other European country !
I really like and respect ARTE, but this is not a documentary about any society, but about the people who seek to influence this society, and this is different.
Bravo.
currently the society is very polarised so showing extreme groups is relevant.
An interesting document, but its view of a large city. About ~65% of the population lives in towns/villages of less than 100,000. and approximately ~50% in towns/villages below ~20,000. For some reason people always forget about this, some politicians say Elections are not won in big cities.
The Mormons couple should start watching "The handmaid's tale" and not the Crown . It's closer to the future that they want
Agree, she’s too busy contradicting herself to see the trees.
Mormons have one "m" too many.
So many Mormon influencers like them, its scary. The have infiltrated the internet, especially family, lifestyle and mommy bloggers. As well as many instagram influencers.
The present a palatable version of Mormonism and gloss over all the inconvenient truths.
"przeciwko rządowi". nie "przeciwko rządu"
computer generated.
Wait wait wait... so the Mormon couple doesn't have a family? Why is she saying that she is capable of nurturing a child and not doing it? Why is she not pregnant yet? Is his sperm not living up to the family and religious values, or what's the deal here?
Das ist einne grooooBe scheise, dziękuję za uwagę :)
Jak slysze takie glupie baby to zaczynam byc za odrebraniem im prawa glosu.
Ce documentaire est une caricature de la réalité, il n'explique pas les vrais problèmes politiques que subit la Pologne. Il aurait fallu interoger des habitants des petites villes et pas des activistes.
The subtitles are not 100% correctly reflecting what the people are saying (I noticed it with both Polish and Ukrainian at the end of the video)
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Why do I feel that you chose the biggest caricature of a "conservative family" to mock the very concept of it? There are practically no mormons in Poland, and "tradwives" are an Internet meme. This couple tries hard to carve out a niche for themselves in order to get attention (same as the activist girl who, judging by her tendency to use buzzwords, couldn't even articulate what she's really fighting for), but they don't represent our society AT ALL.
Next time catch a factory worker from some small town on his day off and interview him over some beers or vodka, and then get a caviar leftist from a big city corporation or uni. Now that would be interesting to watch.
Co to za gówno!? XD
Wow she is soooooo booootiful
This "documentary" is such silly and stupid than in a result... funny. The Germans visit wild country from the East. No, Poland is not conservative and catholic. Arte presents just idiocratic leftist point of view.
Therefore the most popular Polish band worldwide is satanic Behemoth, which leader was a jury in the Voice of Poland or maybe like mr. Maleńczuk- another famous Polish Satanist who was a member of jury in Polish version of Idol show? How many devoted papists have been invited as an authority to any of these super popular shows? So, listen son, you don't exist as a part of Polish culture, and the only way we hear about you is when you do some antics like the Dąbrowa Górnicza parish gangbang with clergy men, and a male whore. Buhehehe.
ITA !
Who paid for this? Germany?
Ah, well, the answer is YES!
"Arte" is a combined public broadcasting channel of Germany an France. It is funded by tax money an hence exposed to the political agenda of those countries.
And since the EU, de facto run by those two countries, has a very big interest (abolish nation states in favour of a centralised super state) in a government change, they serve you such a "documentary".
fake news I am afraid...
Please, enlighten us.
buahahahaha what a bs :)
A word of advice. If you want to make a documentary about Poland you do not make it with activists, any activist in Poland represents an extreme way of thinking they can be interviewed as one of many sides but they do not represent a common Polish person to any extent. I am Polish and I can tell you that over 80% of Polish peoples do not support moves like LGBT or abortion on demand or illegal migration or even legal migration. So this "documentary" is absolute BS
True!
Simply not true. I have no idea where did you take this 80%, especially considering completely different topics
Nieprawda!70%ma gdzieś sprawy aborcji.Jest totalne odejście od kościoła.90% młodych nie obchodzi kto z kim sypia.
Source - trust me bro
Foolishness defined.
I mean... presenter is a fringe group girl with a bit annoying voice (souds ... like you'd imagine a rich kid to sound if you catch my drift). Painting a certain picture through certain lenses.
It's all very distant from how people live, almost synthetic, distilled clours.
Reality is much more grey. Poland is very divided currently - but it's mostly due these fringe pressure groups and politics. They are the cause, not the effect. Problems happen because each group thinks they are saving the country and attempt to drag as many people as possible to their side. In the end if country ends up in trouble - all of them will be to blame. Including young presenter.
What Poland desperately needs is unity. Not around this government though, but not around it's anthitesis either. People, it seems, forgot how to compromise. It's all victory or death mentality. Discarding opposite points of view. And that is the tragedy here. What Poles need to do is to reject such fringe groups, reject arbitrary governmental decisions as well, and start to talk to each other again. No pro-life, no radical feminists, no gay parades, no burning rainbow flags. No governmental interference in personal affairs or media, no governmental support for what is considered morally questionable (which abortion can be considered in some cases, just let women do it if they want, but don't fund it), no foreign NGO's inteference in personal affairs of people or media, rule of law over misguided compassion that hurts all sides.
An enlightening documentary----thank you much!!!
It’s everything but not enlightening, read the comments from poles
No LGBTQ
Being Czech I always love Poland, they are our brothers and shall remain.
But we don't experience what Poland is experiencing. Yes our country is smaller but there is a huge gap between us and Poles. We are liberal and less religious (though my family is both Catholic and Buddhist), and we are also open to democratic process and freedom, such as LGBT rights being approved. Poles, meanwhile, due to bad past, are far more conservatives, even when Poland is a democracy.
PiS reflects Poland's division. One side, its resentment on LGBT and other groups is unthinkably scary. One side, it has stood on Ukraine side during the Russian invasion. This division may work in a sense of unity against a major threat, but it may backfire in long term. Poland needs to find the way in how to balance between their own democratic liberalism and conservativism.
@@M3rl1n177 But Czechia is never as divided as Poland. Note that Czechia has plenty problems yet so far, the only thing we agreed with Poland is helping Ukraine.
@@M3rl1n177 You are from Israel, which you judged based on how you read Netanyahu’s news. Go to ours again instead of sitting in the computer.
@@M3rl1n177 no news are reliable. Take your own experience.
Poland is split and devided and people of Poland has just decided to change their government. Chechs are lucky not to have a common border with Russia.
Very smart observation. Czek is more open minded. In Poland a church plays a big role in a worldview.
Kobito Ty po polsku nie potrafisz mówić a chesz rządzić!!!
lies
dokladnie oczy bolały nie dałem rady tego oglądnąć, Porażka
damm i love polish people but ..conservative LOL? they are from 1900 lol
These conservative far right couple never bothered to explain what western European values are exactly.
People need to be careful here on defining western values, because jerk reaction like LGBTQ and woman´s right or such and such doesn´t hold any argument on western values as these communities exist all over the world in all countries.
But no, they never bothered to look deep into the western values themselves.
No such thing as polish values. It is just called backwardness.
And their message is basically "we don't want Western propaganda in our country", and then what do they do? Move to the West and do their own propaganda there 🙄
Can people just do their family business however the hell they want, but without the need to involve the whole world in it?? smh
Stop your leftist bashing language, a conservative is not far right. As the term indicates, he is against societal change, the current drift towards violence from activists of all sides who believe they are authorized to impose their ideology on others! Freedom of opinion and expression are Western values!
8:21 subtitles do better work than this girl
That "traditional values family" is such a cringe
Societies and countries without traditional values family have no historical perspective.
yes having two dads is good
But trans, queer and furries are not cringe?
Absolute waste of time 😂
Don"t worry guys about Poland. As the addage goes when the stomach is full it tell the head to sing. Poland wasn't like this in the days of bread and cabbage soup. Now, thanks to Europeans and espacially German money our Polish are not sleeping on empty stomach.
Tak dzięki Niemcom nie sypiamy z pustymi brzuchami 😂 piękne
If Germany had not destroyed the entire country, murdered millions of Poles and robbed them of all their goods then you wouldn't have to write such nonsense, idiot...
sure xD