"The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, Or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is Greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective Commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a Position where it isn't, And arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, Is now the position that it wasn't, And it follows that the position that It was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that It wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, The variation being the difference between Where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a Significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information The missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, Within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, Or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of Where it shouldn't be, and where it was, It is able to obtain the deviation And its variation, which is called error." Same vibe
Yeah I wonder if the game allows for perpetual motion because of how the lift works. If the lift goes forward you're technically able to maintain speed by having forwards an upwards lift. Of course this doesn't work in the real world, but Trailmakers physics is def not real world physics. If it is possible to have enough forwards lift to counteract the drag it's possible.
and considering how slow airplanes are compared to real life, it would support the idea of air jello. irl, a Cessna can easily achieve 200 kmh, in trailmaker, that's the speed of a fighter jet.
From what i remember, TM does not really have "air", the wings essentially reduce weight of the craft as a whole instead of producing lift. In most cases it is functionally the same, but effect is different when you get to extremes like this lowest speed.
Kosmo's new quantum drive warps up to a brisk jog's pace when you push the drive cores together super close. It's funny to watch. I wanted to compact the thing and it just crawled everywhere. Like a super slow mo vtol.
@@AgentWest There's definitely some kind of functional air resistance. Obviously your speed is affected by how aerodynamic the vehicle is, but it's also possible to build usable planes with no "lift" producing parts. You can still build functional flight control surfaces using only aerodynamic blocks, so the game is calculating differing air resistance around the airframe somehow.
I think he does that on purpose... I mean... There are episodes where he uses and EXPLAINS what flaps are and others where you cringe with his non-use of flaps when it's the obvious solution... 🤦🏼♂
Scrapman i would like to see a 1v1v1v1 dogfight where everyone builds a plane and you randomly chose who gets whos plane you can get your own if you are lucky the creator also gets to chose the camera angel you have to use this can be a camera block.
Your editor does an incredible work passing the audio track through filters on the sections when you speak so it sounds like dimmer, with reverb...like being "underwater" and music is playing. Great inmersive job.
In the seas expansion it can technically qualify as 0kph if we are going into the wind and the wind pushing backwards on the wing lets us float without falling and thrust pushing us with equal speed as the wind although he didn't say you have to go forward I think
I like your rules lawyering. "Hey, I have 0 relative groundspeed, it doesn't MATTER what my airspeed is!" Given that, it would be hilarious to build something that is FAST with a lot of lift and then just fly into the high winds at the perimeter till you achieve 0 groundspeed.
In the process of trying to make the slowest plane, you have essentially accomplished in making something akin to a balloon 😄😄😄 Congratulations sir, the Wright Brothers would be thoroughly confused o7
I think the lifting function of the wings might only "activate" at a certain speed, so that your plane doesn't float away for no reason when you park it. Seeing some pretty weird movements from scrapman's plane which might be explained by that.
Scrapman here is a idea for you do a 1v1v1v1 by making a walking turrent and battle. You can also do a 2v2 that one person is shooting while the othr is controlling the walking turrent. Day 1.5 of asking scrapman to do this
11:00 And this is when logic gates step in. Every logic gate have output slider, you can have as many power outputs you want essentially. So you have take off power and cruise power binded to differend buttons.
ive been wondering if you're planning to continiue the random games series? it was really fun watching you play random games once in a while besides the main games. (also please continiue raft with kan, it got a lot of updates i think)
This is a thing in real life too, they are called S-TOL (short take off and landing) competitions, the planes have to fly really slowly to land in a really short distance.
Day two of I've got 3 ideas for you, 1: Player 1 builds a plane with wheels on the tips of the wings. Player 2 makes a runway with two lanes and a gap in between. Then land the plane on that runway. 2: Build a plane which can transform into a submarine upon contact with the water (like, wings turn in and stuff). 3: Test yours and your friends building skills by turning animals into a vehicles (maybe multiple animals per person but that might be too time consuming). Points for form and points for function
I built a helichopter during the campaign. I had modular wings and the chopper engine, but not copter blades. So I made a functionin copter with two pairs of spinning bits in opposite directions. It went up and controlled very well, but I couldn't get it to go down. It had so much lift that it just hovered in place with no power.
Did you turn down the steering influence of the air resistance ailerons? I'm wondering if those might have been completely "on" and that was what was driving you sideways.
Do 1v2 parasite fighters vs cargo plane.parasite fighter has 1 or 2 smart cannons and 30 block limit and cargo plane has 2 miniguns that are controlled by the cargo plane
Using the wing piece with flaps is hurting your lift, they produce less lift than normal modular wings, you can just test this out by placing wings on build mode and watching the center of lift move.
Imagine a battle but you can only use very small and underpowered motors, thrusters, wheels, and vehicles themselves but attach a gunpowder cannon to each and see how far it flings you back when you try to shoot the other player.
To use the same thruster for lift off and for maintaining a flight you can use a logic gate with a different key that has its output limited and the thrusters themselves have a key that is used to lift off. Hope this helps
...which would also give you a place for the vertical speed sensors to read true vertical speed. And having that information, you might be able to automate keeping a constant altitude.
RCE did this challenge a while ago, and I think he did go down to 1kph with like 20 stacks of wings :>. This was before the air update, so things may have changed
Indeed. th-cam.com/video/M_h5Vuu3fVs/w-d-xo.html RCE did this almost a year ago. (Before the airborne update; I don't know if that changed the physics of existing wings though.) He did it by just adding so many wings that any movement (including just from the wings flexing) created enough lift to get him airborne. So I don't know if that counts as actually flying or if its just using glitches.
So idk how this'll work in trailmakers, but you could tilt the wing tips up a little to make it naturally stay level. In real life, if it rolls to either direction, the angled tip on the downward side ends, generating more downward force pushing it back up, leveling it back out. Like is said, though. idk how well that'll work in trailmakers.
ive had this idea on my mind for a little while: make a plane that can stop mid-air. like, youre flying and you press a key to just lose all/most momentum. this could be used for dodging missiles and stuff in battles. hope this idea makes sense and is actually possible :)
So I did some math and assuming 1m = 4 blocks, minimum speed of 5km/h, and standard Earth gravity and air density, this airplane has a maximum lift coefficient of 41.25 !!! For reference, your average real life airfoil will have around 1.5 for a plain clean wing and 2.4-3.3 with high lift devices (flaps, slats). I've looked around on the internet and the highest number I've come across was 12 for a crazy theoretical wing with powerful suction devices that wouldn't stall even at 70°AoA. Trailmakers has some real wacky physics when you push it to its limits
I just had a crazy idea. Very crazy. Scrapman level crazy. A dog fight challenge, but thrusters are stabilised to ALWAYS point horizontal. Mounted to your plane with a rotator and steering hinges, so as you roll left / right and as you pitch up / down, the thrusters stay level to the horizon. The thrusters may be mounted on the front OR the back (but not both). The challenge of it is, if you try to flight straight up vertically, front mounted thrusters will try to pull you straight, rear mounted thrusters will try to make you back flip. So, you will be forced to either climb and descend slowly OR build up speed and turn off thrust as you climb / descend fast.
I would be happy if you and some other guys could do a supercar/hypercar build battle with 3 catigories... looks(how realistic it looks), controlability(in that circuit race) and overall speed(either centrifuge or dragrace... maybe both)
The sideways motion is due to the sideways ailerons, a better way would be logic Like a front facing( 🐥) speed-sensor set to activate below threshold, set threshold to 3-4-5kmph and activate an and-gate with it, couple an or-gate set to space(for thrust) into the and-gate. Now you only have thrust if you press space and your speed is below the set threshold. If you crash, you are to slow... if still fly, set the speed a bit slower or… add wings AND set to a slower speed
A slow vehicle in Trailmakers actually has a pretty big advantage. It can repair infinitely without a cooldown. The cooldown bar only appears when you're moving at a fast enough speed. If this plane had some extra thrusters to go super fast, and be able to brake down to a slow speed, repair, and continue going fast, it'd be very good in PVP.
You've seen the helicopter jousting, you've seen the slowest plane possible, now what about _Antique Air Attack?_ You need to build the slowest plane possible and arm it with a pole mine or two Let the Sky Knights joust using their Flying Bookcases with Fire Lances!
In KSP, at least last time I played it, if you built a plane like this, but with no engines and launched it with something like a rocket sled, your aerodynamic surfaces created forces when they actuated, which were sufficient to stay airborne indefinitely, and if fact made it IMPOSSIBLE to land, of you touched the controls while trying to do it.... Well outside of plowing it into the ground, but it mean a normal, soft landing was impossible. Because when you would try to pitch up to scrub away the last of your speed, you would actually gain speed and climb lol.
About a year ago, “Real Civil Engineer” made a really funky airplane that could go 1mph by accident, also he could gain altitude by just driving forward
So you have stumbled across STOL (slow take off & land) aircraft. Entire real world competitions are held on this concept. Funnily enough, the speeds you managed to get down to are also comparable to the real world results. (Though admittedly, they often have a bit of a headwind)
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"Once we find out everything that doesn't work, we that will be left, is what works."
- Scrapman 2023
This. This is a Kerbal way.
Thisis what russia is doing rn.
@@moroblizniak4457 u mean ukraine
"The missile knows where it is at all times.
It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
By subtracting where it is from where it isn't,
Or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is
Greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation.
The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective
Commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a
Position where it isn't,
And arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is.
Consequently, the position where it is,
Is now the position that it wasn't,
And it follows that the position that
It was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that
It wasn't, the system has acquired a variation,
The variation being the difference between
Where the missile is, and where it wasn't.
If variation is considered to be a
Significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA.
However, the missile must also know where it was.
The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows.
Because a variation has modified some of the information
The missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is.
However, it is sure where it isn't,
Within reason, and it knows where it was.
It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't,
Or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of
Where it shouldn't be, and where it was,
It is able to obtain the deviation
And its variation, which is called error."
Same vibe
*all that will be left
15:13 I love that he's got so much lift that his angle of attack is negative to maintain altitude
yeah 16:33 😅
Yeah I wonder if the game allows for perpetual motion because of how the lift works. If the lift goes forward you're technically able to maintain speed by having forwards an upwards lift. Of course this doesn't work in the real world, but Trailmakers physics is def not real world physics. If it is possible to have enough forwards lift to counteract the drag it's possible.
The air must be super viscous in trail makers. It's like flying through half set jello.
and considering how slow airplanes are compared to real life, it would support the idea of air jello.
irl, a Cessna can easily achieve 200 kmh, in trailmaker, that's the speed of a fighter jet.
From what i remember, TM does not really have "air", the wings essentially reduce weight of the craft as a whole instead of producing lift. In most cases it is functionally the same, but effect is different when you get to extremes like this lowest speed.
Kosmo's new quantum drive warps up to a brisk jog's pace when you push the drive cores together super close. It's funny to watch. I wanted to compact the thing and it just crawled everywhere. Like a super slow mo vtol.
@@AgentWest There's definitely some kind of functional air resistance. Obviously your speed is affected by how aerodynamic the vehicle is, but it's also possible to build usable planes with no "lift" producing parts. You can still build functional flight control surfaces using only aerodynamic blocks, so the game is calculating differing air resistance around the airframe somehow.
You should’ve activated the flaps
They are specifically designed to get you more lift when going slower, and slow you down
agreed I'm surprised he didn't
Thank you! It was triggering me the entire video
I think he does that on purpose... I mean... There are episodes where he uses and EXPLAINS what flaps are and others where you cringe with his non-use of flaps when it's the obvious solution... 🤦🏼♂
I looked it up and apparently the slowest plane irl had a minimum airspeed of 30kph so I think you did pretty good
That plane often takes off vertically because of headwinds.
@@kederaji does that mean you could just stop the plane in midair if you had enough headwind 😭
I managed to build a plane that goes around 4 kph, it's basically just a biplane with 6 sets of wings
Then it's no longer a biplane
should we call it a hexaplane then?
Also, probably fewer wings and some actual flap usage might help with that?
definitely@@watcher-zo7vk
i had one that looks like its frozen in mid air
Day 59 of asking Scrapman to play Besiege (again)
Dont give up, scrapman will aventually see your comment and play the game
@@Ltu_The_Thirdyeah!
what's that ?
@@ongnghiphamle6659 a game he once played it changed a lot so i want him to play it again
you don't know that game besiege it's sandbox game and i forgot 😂😂 the other one
Scrapman i would like to see a 1v1v1v1 dogfight where everyone builds a plane and you randomly chose who gets whos plane you can get your own if you are lucky the creator also gets to chose the camera angel you have to use this can be a camera block.
"Grammer" is obviously your favorite subject in school.
🤓@@kindagamer525
@@kindagamer525 "grandma"*
It would be funny if he uses this plane. So one of the others would have to use it.
Your editor does an incredible work passing the audio track through filters on the sections when you speak so it sounds like dimmer, with reverb...like being "underwater" and music is playing. Great inmersive job.
I thought he edited his own videos
@@Hlebuw3k he used to
@@Hlebuw3khe hired a new editor recently but he hired the last editor before the airborne campaign I think
In the seas expansion it can technically qualify as 0kph if we are going into the wind and the wind pushing backwards on the wing lets us float without falling and thrust pushing us with equal speed as the wind although he didn't say you have to go forward I think
I like your rules lawyering.
"Hey, I have 0 relative groundspeed, it doesn't MATTER what my airspeed is!"
Given that, it would be hilarious to build something that is FAST with a lot of lift and then just fly into the high winds at the perimeter till you achieve 0 groundspeed.
Man, you can WALK faster than that plane! That's amazing, I love it.
In the process of trying to make the slowest plane, you have essentially accomplished in making something akin to a balloon 😄😄😄
Congratulations sir, the Wright Brothers would be thoroughly confused o7
Scrapman has a whole lot of experience in this challenge already 😅
Loved watching you try land a plane that takes off at 9 mph😂
10:52 that made me think of making you do a plane that is afraid of landing, so funny that it refuses to land
Like his dragster that was afraid of speed
This is the epitome of
“it doesn’t have to work great, it just has to work”
- scrapman
I think the lifting function of the wings might only "activate" at a certain speed, so that your plane doesn't float away for no reason when you park it. Seeing some pretty weird movements from scrapman's plane which might be explained by that.
Scrapman here is a idea for you do a 1v1v1v1 by making a walking turrent and battle. You can also do a 2v2 that one person is shooting while the othr is controlling the walking turrent.
Day 1.5 of asking scrapman to do this
11:00 And this is when logic gates step in.
Every logic gate have output slider, you can have as many power outputs you want essentially. So you have take off power and cruise power binded to differend buttons.
knowing that being here before this gets popular is amazing, claim ur reward: 👑🏆
ive been wondering if you're planning to continiue the random games series? it was really fun watching you play random games once in a while besides the main games. (also please continiue raft with kan, it got a lot of updates i think)
If Yzuei ever watches this Vid, he might well wonder if you have totally lost your Marbles... XD
This is a thing in real life too, they are called S-TOL (short take off and landing) competitions, the planes have to fly really slowly to land in a really short distance.
RCE did this a couple years ago, though it was interesting seeing the new parts used.
I can remember that too. RCE got a speed of 3mph or kph with a lot more wings
9:57 im german i was joust about to write a commend that 9 sounds german
this idea turned out to be way funnier than i was expecting, good job scrap!
First
Nice
Slowest. Dogfight. Ever.
Day two of
I've got 3 ideas for you,
1: Player 1 builds a plane with wheels on the tips of the wings. Player 2 makes a runway with two lanes and a gap in between. Then land the plane on that runway.
2: Build a plane which can transform into a submarine upon contact with the water (like, wings turn in and stuff).
3: Test yours and your friends building skills by turning animals into a vehicles (maybe multiple animals per person but that might be too time consuming). Points for form and points for function
"It is just as much about the journey, as it is the destination"
- Scrapman 2023
I almost cried when he didn't use the flaps 😂. Very impressive that he did that well without them though
I built a helichopter during the campaign. I had modular wings and the chopper engine, but not copter blades. So I made a functionin copter with two pairs of spinning bits in opposite directions. It went up and controlled very well, but I couldn't get it to go down. It had so much lift that it just hovered in place with no power.
the helicopter blades generate a lot of resistance making you just float, and they might work for what your trying to do.
Did you turn down the steering influence of the air resistance ailerons? I'm wondering if those might have been completely "on" and that was what was driving you sideways.
Do 1v2 parasite fighters vs cargo plane.parasite fighter has 1 or 2 smart cannons and 30 block limit and cargo plane has 2 miniguns that are controlled by the cargo plane
Using the wing piece with flaps is hurting your lift, they produce less lift than normal modular wings, you can just test this out by placing wings on build mode and watching the center of lift move.
Imagine a battle but you can only use very small and underpowered motors, thrusters, wheels, and vehicles themselves but attach a gunpowder cannon to each and see how far it flings you back when you try to shoot the other player.
What about a plane that uses no wings and can only generate lift from weges truly wedge gang approved ps can not be a rocket
Day 23 of asking scrapman to build the fusion hover craft from his main assembly gameplay into trailmakers
Well, I think Scrapman just broke every future glider challenge, lol.
I'm suprised scrapman didn't just make a giant box of wings
Can you do aircraft carrier vs 2 bombers with my aircraft carrier for my birthday I’ve been watching for 3 years
i challenge you to build a 200mph plane with one single thruster
now you can do a dogfight with the slowest planes you can build. the most boring dogfight yet.
Not first
Is the ground effect simulated in Trailmakers? At some points it felt like the plane was sitting on a cushion of air
I have done this like long before the airborn update and managed between 2 kmh and 3km, the game didn't seem to like it tho
4:13 Props to the editor for actually explaining the mechanics here
Day 2 of asking for a Rock'em sock'em robot style sword fight.
Day one asking scrapman to play plane crazy (roblox)
I wonder what is the slowest speed that you’re able to hydrofoil on the surface of the water??
To use the same thruster for lift off and for maintaining a flight you can use a logic gate with a different key that has its output limited and the thrusters themselves have a key that is used to lift off. Hope this helps
Love these man keep up the work
Day 5 of suggesting this: Star Wars inspired dogfight with 2 or 3 others
Put thrusters on servos connected to an angle sensor that always makes the thrusters point exactly horizontal
...which would also give you a place for the vertical speed sensors to read true vertical speed. And having that information, you might be able to automate keeping a constant altitude.
Then you connect thrusters to downward velocity and it settles on slowest speed.
i cant believe that he just found out that this much drag can just make you float
i think rce did this a while ago and got 1 kilometer per hour with a giant like 16 wing tall plane
RCE did this challenge a while ago, and I think he did go down to 1kph with like 20 stacks of wings :>. This was before the air update, so things may have changed
Indeed. th-cam.com/video/M_h5Vuu3fVs/w-d-xo.html
RCE did this almost a year ago. (Before the airborne update; I don't know if that changed the physics of existing wings though.) He did it by just adding so many wings that any movement (including just from the wings flexing) created enough lift to get him airborne. So I don't know if that counts as actually flying or if its just using glitches.
Imagine if irl hovercraft was just a giant wing with insane lift.
what about making a hover tank that only hovers with thrust?😐
So idk how this'll work in trailmakers, but you could tilt the wing tips up a little to make it naturally stay level. In real life, if it rolls to either direction, the angled tip on the downward side ends, generating more downward force pushing it back up, leveling it back out. Like is said, though. idk how well that'll work in trailmakers.
Nah it was like watching Aladdin on the magic carpet
Make the glider from avatar the last Airbender
Catch a car or submarine or something with a airship
It’s great to see you have so much fun with this concept.
I would like to see you do this again, but see if you can use sails for thrust.
Bro should have used this in the glider evolution video
I saw Real Civil Engineer do this, it's really interesting to see the differences in thought processes they have on how to do this
Yeah i thought he did a vid on the topic
Rce make 1km/hour plane.
one mile/hour*
that`s like a paper plane, so wings are less dense than paper
Can you build a glider pls, i like yours videos
Y'all should do a slow plane dog fight.
First Comment :D
WRONG
now do that in scrap mechanic with wings mod
First
WRONG
hey that the type of plane i do in this game
6:08
I would think enabling some flaps could get you slower with fewer wings as well.
"Nein" "Nein" "I'm not german right now"
other people:please fly
scrap man :please land please stop floating
😂
I think this is officially the trippiest ScrapMan video I have ever seen.
ive had this idea on my mind for a little while: make a plane that can stop mid-air. like, youre flying and you press a key to just lose all/most momentum. this could be used for dodging missiles and stuff in battles. hope this idea makes sense and is actually possible :)
Slowest car next?
Who knows, maybe "short take off and landing" contests can be a thing in TM as well now that several channels made videos about this.
Scrapman built a magic carpet
So I did some math and assuming 1m = 4 blocks, minimum speed of 5km/h, and standard Earth gravity and air density, this airplane has a maximum lift coefficient of 41.25 !!!
For reference, your average real life airfoil will have around 1.5 for a plain clean wing and 2.4-3.3 with high lift devices (flaps, slats). I've looked around on the internet and the highest number I've come across was 12 for a crazy theoretical wing with powerful suction devices that wouldn't stall even at 70°AoA. Trailmakers has some real wacky physics when you push it to its limits
Oh wow real civil engineer did this too!
I once built a plane that couldn't land, due to it being so light
Strait up stolen from rce (this is a joke)
He got 1 mph
I just had a crazy idea. Very crazy. Scrapman level crazy.
A dog fight challenge, but thrusters are stabilised to ALWAYS point horizontal.
Mounted to your plane with a rotator and steering hinges, so as you roll left / right and as you pitch up / down, the thrusters stay level to the horizon.
The thrusters may be mounted on the front OR the back (but not both).
The challenge of it is, if you try to flight straight up vertically, front mounted thrusters will try to pull you straight, rear mounted thrusters will try to make you back flip.
So, you will be forced to either climb and descend slowly OR build up speed and turn off thrust as you climb / descend fast.
put a SPEED LIMITER ON THE PROPELLER, thats set on a toggle button, limiter will turn on when you lift in the air, and propeller can spin slower
i imagine just a gargantuan box of Wings filling out the entire max buildspace, for the most Air resistance
I would be happy if you and some other guys could do a supercar/hypercar build battle with 3 catigories... looks(how realistic it looks), controlability(in that circuit race) and overall speed(either centrifuge or dragrace... maybe both)
The sideways motion is due to the sideways ailerons, a better way would be logic
Like a front facing( 🐥) speed-sensor set to activate below threshold, set threshold to 3-4-5kmph and activate an and-gate with it, couple an or-gate set to space(for thrust) into the and-gate.
Now you only have thrust if you press space and your speed is below the set threshold.
If you crash, you are to slow... if still fly, set the speed a bit slower or…
add wings AND set to a slower speed
Plane Physics in real life: I want to go slow
Trail-makers plane physics: oh slow you say …
you should do a dogfight. but who ever wins the round gets to remover a cuople parts from the other players planes.
A slow vehicle in Trailmakers actually has a pretty big advantage. It can repair infinitely without a cooldown. The cooldown bar only appears when you're moving at a fast enough speed.
If this plane had some extra thrusters to go super fast, and be able to brake down to a slow speed, repair, and continue going fast, it'd be very good in PVP.
Hey scrap early
You've seen the helicopter jousting, you've seen the slowest plane possible, now what about _Antique Air Attack?_
You need to build the slowest plane possible and arm it with a pole mine or two
Let the Sky Knights joust using their Flying Bookcases with Fire Lances!
In KSP, at least last time I played it, if you built a plane like this, but with no engines and launched it with something like a rocket sled, your aerodynamic surfaces created forces when they actuated, which were sufficient to stay airborne indefinitely, and if fact made it IMPOSSIBLE to land, of you touched the controls while trying to do it....
Well outside of plowing it into the ground, but it mean a normal, soft landing was impossible. Because when you would try to pitch up to scrub away the last of your speed, you would actually gain speed and climb lol.
About a year ago, “Real Civil Engineer” made a really funky airplane that could go 1mph by accident, also he could gain altitude by just driving forward
So you have stumbled across STOL (slow take off & land) aircraft. Entire real world competitions are held on this concept. Funnily enough, the speeds you managed to get down to are also comparable to the real world results. (Though admittedly, they often have a bit of a headwind)