I had a Juno 6 for years bud, I so regret selling it, I do have emulations and a boutique, but looking at the real thing still gives me goose bumps, your Juno is amazing condition mate.
Yeah it’s weird. But there’s defo something about having the interface and full sized keys. If there was a boutique hidden underneath it’d still probably feel the same 😂😂
@@StarskyCarr yes me too, it’s like the pro one, I would still rather have the real thing, and again I sold that as well although it had some major problems with the key tracking.
YMMV, but No one ever criticized a Stradivarius for only being able to sound like a violin. Buy a Juno to have ‘that sound’ and the easiest synth interface ever made, if you don’t care about ‘that sound’ or the easy/immediate interface, that’s when there’s better options. I think Juno’s are still the best synth for most bands/artists, they sound gorgeous, they’re easy to learn, and their sounds will never go out of style. Price is the only caveat on that.
Yes..I had the 106 many years ago. But it has only one oscillator. The Juno line in 1981.. was the cheap versions of the Jupiter on the market. More affordable.
Watching this run through of a basic "cheap" Roland poly, a question have you any experience of the very expensive Roland MKS-80 Super Jupiter with MPG-80? I've never seen much about these Roland modules, just the adverts for them. Nice to see Alex Ball getting some competition on the Roland themed tune.
Hey Starrsky, I have the chance to buy a mint condition Juno 60, but it’s $1k more than a 6. Do you prefer the sound of the 6 over the 60 (some say it sounds more ‘direct’ or ‘present’), or do you think that’s just hype? I’ve watched your videos several times, but it’s different to actually sit in the room with the two. Thanks!
I would say they're the same tbh. The benefits of the 60 is you can use MIDI - there's a relatively cheap convertor for the DCB connector (or whatever it's called) on the back so you can send MIDI. That would be my main reason to keep the 60 over the 6. Sonically there's nothing in it.
as a Juno-6 owner i agree about the benefits of the 60 plus its value holds really well...although some have said the Juno-6 does sound a bit more raw...an example i heard recently is a 6 vs 60 comparison by Alamo music ...it's not side by side like Starsky did but somehow that difference comes through...it's subtle and yes they are 90-95% similar but i could tell a difference
@@helisoma I'm not sure that's actually the case but then I've never owned a 60. The thing is that if you compare any two Juno 6s, the chances are that you will hear subtle differences between them; as you would if you were comparing 60s. The one definite advantage that the 6 has over the 60, for me, is its continuous High Pass Filter as opposed to the 60's being limited to four settings.
Hi Starsky. Superb video, as usual. Listening to the Juno 6, i can understand why they command the prices they do. As a 106 owner, I've finally decided to sell it. The 106's lack the character that the 6 and 60 do. After watching your videos on the Alpha Juno 2, I'm warming to it more now, though, do i need one if i have a JX8p? Decisions, decisions!!
Funny how popular and ubiquitous the 106 became. 80s styling over the 70s tech worked a treat. I'm thinking of a poly six vs 106 video to demo just that. very similar synths but the 106 flew.
I'm lucky to have a PolySix and she's a keeper, despite some of the issues they have. Compared to the 106, they are very smooth and warm. Surprisingly stable for a VCO synth. Keep up the good work mate. Your videos are my go to for proper, no gimmicks information.
@@helisoma They're nice synths - I've owned 2 (the first was stolen) - but they're not worth the money they now go for, to my mind. I bought my second Juno 6, in near pristine condition for £420, maybe seven years ago. I ended up swapping it for an ARP Solus about a month or so before they started selling for over £1000! I did and still do like synths without presets so I certainly didn't see the lack of them on the 6 as a negative, but as much as I liked it, I felt slightly underwhelmed by it. If I wanted that kind of Roland sound now, though, I'd be much more likely to buy a JX3P with the PG200 programmer. It's a lot more versatile than the Junos and you get a second oscillator. People have this idea that the JX3P was almost like a home keyboard as opposed to the more professional Junos but this is actually a complete revision of the reality. I've actually been looking at a couple in my area, recently, for around the £700-750 mark and was actually considering swapping my Polysix for one . . . but then my outsanity returned to me!
I own only Boutique 06a, and it is super synth, I can create what I want in a matter of few seconds....and than sampler/looper is very handy to release Juno and get another sound on it:)...
Exellent , i tried those and managed to replicate until pad 17 , man this is a pure beauty hard to get that sound .....Curious to know if you could do this pad on a Deepmind ;)
I made a deepmind vs 106 video showing how to limit the DM to stay within Juno limitations. In that I attempted to emulate the chorus (speed and depth) on the FX. I show it on screen at some point. Close enough for most things.
Did a bit of digging. Seems Hyper Go Go took the piano riff from Jimmy Polo. I'd forgotten how cheesy the Hyper Go Go track is 😄 Especially when the Strings of Life bit comes in.
Wait , you didn’t do the stacked voice mono trick? There is a switch position and key hold trick to put it into a factory test mode that’s turns it into a mono synth with all 6 voices in unison. Set arp mode to up and hold key transpose when you turn it on. Fatness intensifies😅 Watch your levels though it’s a bit hot.
At 4:48, I recognised the tune as being "40 Miles" by Congress, which itself is a sample of Jimi Polo's "Better Days," the piano being played by Adamski.
I had a Juno 60 for years (until a dodgy plug in a studio caused it to catch fire 😭). I'm surprised you didn't make the "Pacific State" pad. As far as I'm aware they played the chord, had the synth on "hold" and transposed everything. That's why it's got that instant attack.
That's really just the negative side of its biggest positive, which is that it's just one giant sweet spot. The small range of sounds it can make will almost always sound good.
if someone is searching for the 5:20 Dance modern version of these piano chords , that version is "Congress - 40 Miles (Congress' 2007 Club Mix)" :D ... finally found it after one hour of searching in youtube 🤣
It's always good to have a very simple synth on hand to do sounds like these. You certainly could do them on a much more complicated synth. But something like this is MUCH faster to work with as Starsky is demonstrating... and yes... you can get free VSTs like this that are just as easy to program.
Nice one Starsky. Hope you're still driving The General Lee. Ye cracking on though dude, you'll have to start using the doors but, your role as a PI will always be remembered.
Wow great video I'm definitely gonna program those in when I get my Take 5. Love the Juno 6, both sounds and interface, my favorite old synth. Those chord stabs are really house sounding, the Juno is really versatile and clear sounding. Also thank you for doing a Beck song instead of some not-to-fun nerdy synth stuff.
Already commented on this and it's clearly cheeky to ask for anything more, but a follow-up video in exactly this format on the other waveforms would be amazing.
This is such an excellent sound design tutorial. Starting from the most basic and slowly changing envelope and filter is really informative and I've learnt more from this than hundreds of over-complicated sound design videos. Please do this again with a different synth - maybe something digital!
I wish I'd had you as a teacher back in 1985 when I first learnt synthesis with a Korg Poly 800, which, by the way, had no pulse width modulation but all square wave sounds in this video can be produced with it.
Amazingly clean Juno 6. The engineers did such a good job at Roland that there aren't any setting that sounds bad with the Juno, with the exception of overloading the VCA - maybe this is why there's VCA Level slider on the Juno 60.
I bought it from a friend - it had been sitting round for decades. When I got it I had to replace all faders, switches and volume pots etc... well I paid someone who's better with a soldering iron than me. It was a bit of a wreck (I wasn't entirely sure it could be revived!). There's a few scratches but after some careful cleaning and de-griming it's come up really well.
@@ecou1915 I've never heard of an ADSRA envelope. Perhaps it's labelled oddly. ADSR is the most popular, but you likely have a filter envelop and an amp envelope, both ADSR. On this the filter follows the envelope sliders while the envelope slider is up.. the amp goes between a gate (ADR all at zero and S at full) and following the same amp as the filter. I say when I change from one to the other as I talk.
Juno is such an inspiration machine. I’ve had a 106 on loan for a year and love it. Have written a fair bit using it as its simplicity means one just gets straight into actual playing. Would love to have heard an example of sending envelope to pulse width as this is one thing the 106 doesn’t have.
Aah… I had planned that but took it out as not everything has it. It’s good on the elec bass tones for example - changes the harmonics as the sound dies.
The Deepmind is killer! In my opinion, it is one of the best bang for you buck analog Poly synths. The key bed on the keyboard version is substandard for the quality synth engine and FX, so I picked up the desktop.
The Ju6 was my first analogue synth and managed to get one ridiculously cheap 20+ years ago, when I used to work in a music shop. The guy wanted to part exchange against another new synth but the shop didn’t want to touch it. So we made a deal and I ended up with that and a Quasimidi Sirius at an amazing price. I did promise that it was a synth to keep for me though. I think he’d had it from new, boxed manual the works. 😊
@@StarskyCarr yeah still in the studio, though I need to give it a bit of a service. The filter slider is a little crackly now and then but I just use the bender level with only vcf mod depth slider.
Here's the next in this short series..the SAWTOOH 😁 th-cam.com/video/1gdo7RMcHc0/w-d-xo.html
I had a Juno 6 for years bud, I so regret selling it, I do have emulations and a boutique, but looking at the real thing still gives me goose bumps, your Juno is amazing condition mate.
Yeah it’s weird. But there’s defo something about having the interface and full sized keys. If there was a boutique hidden underneath it’d still probably feel the same 😂😂
@@StarskyCarr yes me too, it’s like the pro one, I would still rather have the real thing, and again I sold that as well although it had some major problems with the key tracking.
Without seeing g this video yet - I must say things to do with a pulse on any synth is a fantastic topic
I’ll have to do a more things to do with a pulse video and include everything k forgot to put in this. I should’ve made a list! 😂😂
@@StarskyCarr My ARP Axxe doesn't currently have a pulse and has actually flatlined; any suggestions?!
@@MisAnnThorpesounds like it need to go to the synth hospital. The S&H and filter died in mine recently.
Best thing about the Juno is everything it does sounds good, worst thing is it can't do a lot.
Spot on.
YMMV, but No one ever criticized a Stradivarius for only being able to sound like a violin. Buy a Juno to have ‘that sound’ and the easiest synth interface ever made, if you don’t care about ‘that sound’ or the easy/immediate interface, that’s when there’s better options. I think Juno’s are still the best synth for most bands/artists, they sound gorgeous, they’re easy to learn, and their sounds will never go out of style. Price is the only caveat on that.
@@FakeGlasses There's a few reasons why I've never bought a Stradivarius ... but I do have a 6,60 and 106 😁😆
@@FakeGlasses Roland could solve that by just starting to make them again, at a fair price. Alas, they're the only ones who don't understand that.
Yes..I had the 106 many years ago.
But it has only one oscillator.
The Juno line in 1981..
was the cheap versions of the Jupiter on the market.
More affordable.
Watching this run through of a basic "cheap" Roland poly, a question have you any experience of the very expensive Roland MKS-80 Super Jupiter with MPG-80? I've never seen much about these Roland modules, just the adverts for them. Nice to see Alex Ball getting some competition on the Roland themed tune.
I don’t. I was looking to pick one up before I realised they’d gone stratospheric.
Alex Ball has this Roland rep but really he does it all.
You're a great teacher Starsky, thanks.
Thanks :)
Hey Starrsky, I have the chance to buy a mint condition Juno 60, but it’s $1k more than a 6. Do you prefer the sound of the 6 over the 60 (some say it sounds more ‘direct’ or ‘present’), or do you think that’s just hype? I’ve watched your videos several times, but it’s different to actually sit in the room with the two. Thanks!
I would say they're the same tbh. The benefits of the 60 is you can use MIDI - there's a relatively cheap convertor for the DCB connector (or whatever it's called) on the back so you can send MIDI. That would be my main reason to keep the 60 over the 6. Sonically there's nothing in it.
as a Juno-6 owner i agree about the benefits of the 60 plus its value holds really well...although some have said the Juno-6 does sound a bit more raw...an example i heard recently is a 6 vs 60 comparison by Alamo music ...it's not side by side like Starsky did but somehow that difference comes through...it's subtle and yes they are 90-95% similar but i could tell a difference
@@StarskyCarrthanks, really appreciate you responding to the comments.
@@helisoma I'm not sure that's actually the case but then I've never owned a 60. The thing is that if you compare any two Juno 6s, the chances are that you will hear subtle differences between them; as you would if you were comparing 60s. The one definite advantage that the 6 has over the 60, for me, is its continuous High Pass Filter as opposed to the 60's being limited to four settings.
Munted Bass
Haha… really! I’ve watched that so many times and never noticed 😂😂
@@StarskyCarrI just made that name up you can use it if u want lol😂
Hi Starsky. Superb video, as usual. Listening to the Juno 6, i can understand why they command the prices they do. As a 106 owner, I've finally decided to sell it. The 106's lack the character that the 6 and 60 do. After watching your videos on the Alpha Juno 2, I'm warming to it more now, though, do i need one if i have a JX8p? Decisions, decisions!!
Funny how popular and ubiquitous the 106 became. 80s styling over the 70s tech worked a treat. I'm thinking of a poly six vs 106 video to demo just that. very similar synths but the 106 flew.
I'm lucky to have a PolySix and she's a keeper, despite some of the issues they have. Compared to the 106, they are very smooth and warm. Surprisingly stable for a VCO synth. Keep up the good work mate. Your videos are my go to for proper, no gimmicks information.
so does the 106 unfortunately@@vjfxtheory
Well that was just flippin great, loved the cover at the end too :) More of this please !
Thanks so much!!
as someone who finally bought a juno 6 last year this is so exciting to watch, my favorite synth ever
got one last year too! and have been combining it with guitar pedals and stereo effects processors and it's so much fun to explore without presets
Yeah - it's got a real charm.
@@helisoma They're nice synths - I've owned 2 (the first was stolen) - but they're not worth the money they now go for, to my mind. I bought my second Juno 6, in near pristine condition for £420, maybe seven years ago. I ended up swapping it for an ARP Solus about a month or so before they started selling for over £1000! I did and still do like synths without presets so I certainly didn't see the lack of them on the 6 as a negative, but as much as I liked it, I felt slightly underwhelmed by it. If I wanted that kind of Roland sound now, though, I'd be much more likely to buy a JX3P with the PG200 programmer. It's a lot more versatile than the Junos and you get a second oscillator. People have this idea that the JX3P was almost like a home keyboard as opposed to the more professional Junos but this is actually a complete revision of the reality. I've actually been looking at a couple in my area, recently, for around the £700-750 mark and was actually considering swapping my Polysix for one . . . but then my outsanity returned to me!
I own only Boutique 06a, and it is super synth, I can create what I want in a matter of few seconds....and than sampler/looper is very handy to release Juno and get another sound on it:)...
I've been thinking of doing exactly that - create a tone - loop it - make the next etc. should be fun.
i bought one too but then it was so much fun i got a 6 ☺️
More video's like this please! Very informative and useful!
This can all be done on a deepmind 6, correct? Guess I will try this out tomorrow. Great exercise, beautiful lesson. Thanks
absolutely. have fun. Let me know how you get on :)
Love, how you dial in a specific sound while telling how it _will_ sound after you have dialed it in. That is _knowledge_...and experience.
My 3rd eurorack module is arriving within an hour❤❤❤ Dual VCO, Dual envelope and Midi-CV. Next Im getting VCF and LFO❤❤❤
Mr.Fingers what a lovely surprise, guess where I'm off next on TubeYou?
40 miles away for me
The Juno 6 sounds so much more raw than my Juno 106. I love my Deepmind 12 though, even though it is based upon the 106.
More Juno content please, youtube surprisingly has very little. It's all thin introa or basic demos
Amazing video and super inspiring, thanks!
8:39 reminds me of Alphaville "Forever Young" intro
Exellent , i tried those and managed to replicate until pad 17 , man this is a pure beauty hard to get that sound .....Curious to know if you could do this pad on a Deepmind ;)
I made a deepmind vs 106 video showing how to limit the DM to stay within Juno limitations. In that I attempted to emulate the chorus (speed and depth) on the FX. I show it on screen at some point. Close enough for most things.
Not heard Hyper Go Go - High for years. Great old piano tune.
I was attempting Jimi Polo from memory, but not getting it quite right! 🤦♂️😂
@@StarskyCarr Oh 😄 Sounded good anyway. Very similar piano riff in both tunes.
Did a bit of digging. Seems Hyper Go Go took the piano riff from Jimmy Polo. I'd forgotten how cheesy the Hyper Go Go track is 😄 Especially when the Strings of Life bit comes in.
found also this version with 90s groove :D > Congress - 40 miles
it's a good rhodes imitation for sure
best synth channel!!
Sad no arpeggiator on the 106
Wait , you didn’t do the stacked voice mono trick?
There is a switch position and key hold trick to put it into a factory test mode that’s turns it into a mono synth with all 6 voices in unison.
Set arp mode to up and hold key transpose when you turn it on.
Fatness intensifies😅
Watch your levels though it’s a bit hot.
It’s a weird unison. -DCO with no detune ends up with a strange phasey sound. … but this is about the pulse 😃
This is the synth i will as a retirement present for myself.
At 4:48, I recognised the tune as being "40 Miles" by Congress, which itself is a sample of Jimi Polo's "Better Days," the piano being played by Adamski.
I was going for Jimi Polo but it’s not quite right. I never knew it was played by Adamski. Everyday’s a school day 😀
I had a Juno 60 for years (until a dodgy plug in a studio caused it to catch fire 😭).
I'm surprised you didn't make the "Pacific State" pad. As far as I'm aware they played the chord, had the synth on "hold" and transposed everything. That's why it's got that instant attack.
That might come in my house chords demo 😉
People say it’s limited in its sounds… it has all the sounds I want. Win win
That's really just the negative side of its biggest positive, which is that it's just one giant sweet spot. The small range of sounds it can make will almost always sound good.
That's why they love system 8 so much. 😉
Not hidden, but still a gem!
Can you do this stuff on a jx3p😊
I'm sure, Nick will like this episode ❤
I'll have to do a PWM only one.
I’m going to try this on my Matriarch !
Nice one.
Junos still have luvely sounds!
That's beautiful, dad
Dealing w depression.... this vid really cheered me up. Guess i need to get back to where were at.
...!
Hang in there, Bud. Whatever you are dealing with, “This too shall pass.”
Great parody cover at the end!
Superb video! Loved the first one you did and would love if you did more. Saw wave next?
Haha … that’s the plan!
You can do woodwinds with pulse too. Flutes, obos, clarinets, etc...
I know… I hate them 😂😂 - because my alpha Juno was packed with them taking up valuable preset space!
Great demo of how to use a synth! Would be nice to see what you can do with a saw in the same manner.
👍
Pulse wave best wave
those pads sound amazing even without any fx
Yeah… that’s the beauty of these synths.
if someone is searching for the 5:20 Dance modern version of these piano chords , that version is "Congress - 40 Miles (Congress' 2007 Club Mix)" :D ... finally found it after one hour of searching in youtube 🤣
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It's always good to have a very simple synth on hand to do sounds like these. You certainly could do them on a much more complicated synth. But something like this is MUCH faster to work with as Starsky is demonstrating... and yes... you can get free VSTs like this that are just as easy to program.
Nice one Starsky. Hope you're still driving The General Lee. Ye cracking on though dude, you'll have to start using the doors but, your role as a PI will always be remembered.
Juno series soooo easy to use all time fav due to how immediate you get results if you know a thing or two.
So easy🤗🙏🏻
Wow great video I'm definitely gonna program those in when I get my Take 5. Love the Juno 6, both sounds and interface, my favorite old synth. Those chord stabs are really house sounding, the Juno is really versatile and clear sounding. Also thank you for doing a Beck song instead of some not-to-fun nerdy synth stuff.
Cheers, the Take 5 can do all this standing on its head... FYI I have a 'vintage' patch bank for it on starskycarr.com ;)
@@StarskyCarr Thanks, will definitely check it out.
What a great, refreshing, video! I subscribed immediately, love the video and the down-to-earth approach to synthesis. So much packed here!
Nice guide. I have spent today recreating these reasonably well on a GS Music e7. The organ resonance trick was pretty mind-blowing.
Already commented on this and it's clearly cheeky to ask for anything more, but a follow-up video in exactly this format on the other waveforms would be amazing.
Many Thanks 🙏 BUT we need more!
On its way tomorrow 😀
This is such an excellent sound design tutorial. Starting from the most basic and slowly changing envelope and filter is really informative and I've learnt more from this than hundreds of over-complicated sound design videos. Please do this again with a different synth - maybe something digital!
I didn't believe you, and then... whoa! You've got Rhodes and Hammond and all sorts. Brilliant
I'm a simple synth nerd (me too), I see a Juno on the suggested videos, i click on it to watch it.
Stunning. I always suspected I didn't really know what I was doing but this proves it beyond all doubt.
excellent contant Starsky, keep it up!!!
A must watch for a beginner who just bought their first synth!
quietly one of my new favs of yours, cheers!!
amazing content! thank you so much mate!
I wish I'd had you as a teacher back in 1985 when I first learnt synthesis with a Korg Poly 800, which, by the way, had no pulse width modulation but all square wave sounds in this video can be produced with it.
I wish I had me back then too!
Amazingly clean Juno 6.
The engineers did such a good job at Roland that there aren't any setting that sounds bad with the Juno, with the exception of overloading the VCA - maybe this is why there's VCA Level slider on the Juno 60.
I bought it from a friend - it had been sitting round for decades. When I got it I had to replace all faders, switches and volume pots etc... well I paid someone who's better with a soldering iron than me. It was a bit of a wreck (I wasn't entirely sure it could be revived!). There's a few scratches but after some careful cleaning and de-griming it's come up really well.
Dang that Juno is clean !!!
Brilliant take on where it's at at end!
I love how you pull of those classic sounds.
this is gold!!!!
cheers :)
10:31 sounds so cool
I wish you would have picked a synth with more traditional layout. I am lost reproducing this on my Take 5.
I’m not sure if you’re joking - if not just an FYI - this is the most traditional layout you can get.
@@StarskyCarr Sorry noob here. I have a filter with Freq, res and ADSRA. A amp with ADSRA. I never seen envelope like the Juno before.
@@ecou1915 I've never heard of an ADSRA envelope. Perhaps it's labelled oddly. ADSR is the most popular, but you likely have a filter envelop and an amp envelope, both ADSR. On this the filter follows the envelope sliders while the envelope slider is up.. the amp goes between a gate (ADR all at zero and S at full) and following the same amp as the filter. I say when I change from one to the other as I talk.
The last A is amount. Yes 2 envelopes.
I will watch again looking for the enveloppe change. Thank you for your help and great videos.
Saving this video as reference. Very useful. Thank you!
Great, thats what it's for!
Juno is such an inspiration machine. I’ve had a 106 on loan for a year and love it. Have written a fair bit using it as its simplicity means one just gets straight into actual playing.
Would love to have heard an example of sending envelope to pulse width as this is one thing the 106 doesn’t have.
Aah… I had planned that but took it out as not everything has it. It’s good on the elec bass tones for example - changes the harmonics as the sound dies.
@@StarskyCarrfair point.
Thanks for this I’ll try some of these on my DM12😊
DM12 will smash it 😀 you probably know it was originally based on the 106 then taken much further.
The Deepmind is killer! In my opinion, it is one of the best bang for you buck analog Poly synths. The key bed on the keyboard version is substandard for the quality synth engine and FX, so I picked up the desktop.
The Ju6 was my first analogue synth and managed to get one ridiculously cheap 20+ years ago, when I used to work in a music shop. The guy wanted to part exchange against another new synth but the shop didn’t want to touch it.
So we made a deal and I ended up with that and a Quasimidi Sirius at an amazing price. I did promise that it was a synth to keep for me though. I think he’d had it from new, boxed manual the works. 😊
Nice. Have you still got it?
@@StarskyCarr yeah still in the studio, though I need to give it a bit of a service. The filter slider is a little crackly now and then but I just use the bender level with only vcf mod depth slider.