Yeah Walz the goofball is who I want running the country. Unbelievable that you clowns picked someone so very bad. Josh Shapiro is the one and he didn't want to go to a losing cause.
@@theresayockim3750 I don’t agree. Walz’s “civility” effectively normalized Trump’s delusions. He lost an incredible opportunity to point out that Vance works for the most inappropriate presidential candidate in the US history etc. That’s a demonstration of outright lack of judgment, I’m afraid.
@theresayockim3750 Waltz would take your daughter from you in his state if she wants to become a man. He signed legislation allowing this. If Opal wants to become Mike, you the parent must bend the knee to Waltz. Think about the weirdo you love so much Theresa.
Would like to have heard the White House announce researching/setting-up to redeploy solar panels on the White House (to help defray electricity use - esp in the horrid hot, humid summers). Carter had to deal with the first Oil Crisis thanks to Saudi Arabia/OPEC.
It is truely scary a Norwegian like me to see how the focus of most people in the comment sections seem to be who was most slick and secure, and not who lied through the entire night!
Thank you Professor Lichtman. We are long overdue for women having an amendment about reproductive rights. So tired of having men yammering about protecting life and defending bs backward thinking about women having to endure the “inconvenient tragedies”. 💙🌊🌊🌊 Congrats guys on your subs size😁 and You Tube award.
Inconvenient tragedies!! Did you slip? I’m assuming you are a grown woman and know how babies are made. Why is an abortion used as contraceptive? That is the bigger question when there are so many other ways to prevent a pregnancy. Take some responsibilities for your actions. Having an abortion is not actually great on a woman’s body. You risk infection, the possibility of never having a child. All sorts of things can go wrong.
CONGRATULATIONS, gentlemen, on attaining your plaque and 100,000 subscribers. Please keep up the good work. I hope to see you get to 1 million subscribers in a year or two!!!
I am as old as both of you together. Also I like your system because I am an engineer used to deal with hard and concrete facts rather than assumptions. I assume that both of you know what assume means in the colloquial. Good engineers can not afford to make a mistake because more often than not, that results in fatalities. I contend that wisdom comes with age and broadest possible experience. I fully expect to complete my tenth decade on this Earth located in a place with no sides and no ends.
I'm glad Walz stuck to the issues and policy differences! Going into the gutter with a true gutter rat was not necessary and perilous! WALZ was classy, cool and well spoken! 🎉WALZ FOR THE WIN!🎉
Agree 100% I think you don't win a debate by lying or not answering the question. Walz one on just one question: by him asking Vance who lost 2020 Presidency, and he couldn't answer!! Also January 6!!
Until Trump dies or has to resign because of health problems, mental or physical. Vance as president is the stuff of nightmares. Then he could be himself, whoever that is.
Actually in most polls they were even or vance had 1 % more but remember there really is no winner in debates , they are there for us to learn of two people. @@Alberth1344
@kristiemiller3379 it's to bad Waltz doesn't support transgender parents. In his state he supports legislation that will take a child away from you the legal guardian if you don't allow your kid to transition to a new gender. He overrides parental authority in his state. Waltz is lunatic. Do not thank him.
@darleneperez8381 He didn't care for when he signed the document stating medical care doesn't have to be given to babies who survive abortion. He also doesn't care about parents and supported a law allowing the MN government to take away children from parents who won't allow them to "transition" he is not caring that way wouldn't you agree?
@@dman7668 You clearly have no idea what the specifics of those laws are. You're just another ignorant Trump acolyte and sycophant (look up those words), and I'm guessing you're a fake Christian religious maniac, as well.
Dr. Lichtmam nailed it, I think the debate started turning against Vance with his failed defensive filibuster on immigration, then he got walloped on health care and reproductive rights, and his non answer on 2020 was the coup de grace.
@@kinesjl Lichtman is a never Trumper leftist. College professors live in their own little world. They do not have to make a profit. They really have no clue about every day life of a business. He is 13 keys are good, but some are open to interpretation and he has put an anti-Trump interpretation on them.
Vance lost the debate when he didn’t answer Tim when asked if Trump won election - he didn’t say yes and he didn’t say no Trump gonna be pisssssssed !😂
I wish Waltz would have brought up Project 25 and Vance writing the forward for it - especially around choice and climate change. Felt like he had some really good taking points but he didn’t make them. Also I was waiting to see how Vance was going to spin that. I am glad he asked Vance if he would say Trump lost in 2020
@@brandonkoncyk1842 I respect each politician who serves country over party even if I disagree with their policies. Pence did exactly that. I wish he followed up with testifying before the American people so they understood immediately how dangerous Trump is to our nation and how he doesn't respect our elections.
@@angelacanedit Waltz lied about signing a document supporting letting babies die who were failed abortions. He absolutely lied. He also lied about Trump and Project 2025. He stated women would have to register while pregnant. Something project 2025 doesn't require or even say. That's why I can never be a low information voter like you.
A win is a win. It doesn't have to be a "slam Dunk" to consider a win. Many team sport games are won by 1 point, and that's enough to warrant a national celebration. Think about it.
I thought Vance was very slick and Walz could've attacked him more, but Vance got derailed at the end with Jan 6th. His loyalties clearly lay with Trump and not the constitution, not the law and not the truth.
@@kevinskiles2033 He’s like a creeper narcissist who swings the door open and charms his way into your life, then your life is never the same when the door shuts behind him. He’s a fancy school debater, that’s what he was taught to do! I don’t trust him because he wasn’t anything like he’s been on the campaign trail in this debate.
All this talk about beeing nervous. It is human to be nervous and Walz is nervous because he cares, Trump would never be nervous he just spew out whatever comes in to his narcisstic old mind. I find it charming that bothe Kamala and Walz started out nervous like most of us would.
Trump is never nervous because he has no conscience. Every time he's in front of a microphone, he's thinking, "I have to throw enough crap at the wall to make it stick with just enough people to get the win." It worked in 2016. It hasn't worked since!
@@lizakopelman Walz was absolutely destroyed. 73% of people said Jd Vance won. Then on top of it Odds switched to Republican Party. Trump is honestly lucky he has Vance he could never debate like him.
I've been thinking about that for this entire election season. I keep hearing people ask what she's done during her time in office, but she doesn't get to make the laws. I also thought it was really interesting how Vance kept calling it Kamala Harris' administration. Maybe he was predicting the future. 🤣
YESSSS, like its the dumbest and biggest argument that the trump zombies cling to and it's completely false. I can't believe they aren't swatting that down hard every time its brought up
She can't but the point is why doesn't Biden? He is her boss. Wouldn't she just do what her boss did? Didn't her boss hire her as his assistant because they agreed on policy? It's crazy how people don't get the point of this argument. It's not that she has power to do it herself. It's that Biden is president and he should want to do the things she claims she will do. It's a bad look if Biden doesn't want to do the things she says she will do.
The vp can break a tie in the senate. Harris as vp is now close to becoming prez, which means her overall influence is stronger now, and Vance could easily become president due to trumps age.
Anyone who thinks Vance is a reputable human being quite clearly isn't rowing with even one oar. His past and present is of course nowhere nearly as sordid as his boss's - he's not the one on the hook for civil and criminal judgements - but make no mistake about it, he is a vile human being. That's what he has in common with his boss. BUT - he absolutely doesn't have the rhetorical power that Trump does. He could not carry the Republican Party. Vance is actually a bit more educated and doesn't have the 50+ year criminal history and snake oil salesman history that Trump does, and he can't whine his way into tons of support and donations. He's kind of like another Ron DeSantis. Zero charisma.
Vance is scary because he can pretend to be an entirely different person. He was lying through his teeth of course. Tim Walz was honest, but a couple of times I thought he was going to run over and strangle Vance.
He's "scary" as in Halloween scary. I've worked with creeps like him. They're creepy, but that is all. Vance has zero substance or character. Just a wannabe - wanted so much to be part of something big and important and he got the chance. It's okay. After the election, he goes back to wander aimlessly around the halls of Congress.
@@BenjiOrthopedic Lmfao! You stupid fcking Dems are panicking now I fucking love it! ABC, MSNBC and others admitted Walz was not ready and got smoked. I'm literally watching it right now. 😂
On the stage tonight we had a smiling cobra whose life would be complete if he had the job of putting a Proud Boy in every ob-gyn office, and a real person who cares about the country and its people. VOTE BLUE and we spare ourselves from the former.
@@blondelp8451 Because he's a creep! And creeps all have one thing in common - they always want to spy on others instead of being concerned with themselves. They think they're above it all and simply live to manipulate other people. It's called narcissism.
How? He frequently panicked, he couldn’t explain if his own laws permitted a 9 month old baby surviving an abortion was entitled to medical care. He said he was friends with school shooters, and couldn’t admit he lied regarding his whereabouts during Tiananmen Square protests.
GM - In a team, there’s always a vocal leader and a quiet one with great ideas, the true pillar of the team. Walz is that quiet one-reliable, trustworthy, always having your back. While you work hard, Walz supports Harris and champions all the right ideas.
I'm a true midwesterner, and I love Tim Walz. He presses all the midwestern buttons and is very likeable. Vance, on the other hand, reminds me of a creepy guy who "hits on" women.
Normie voters without partisan allegiance aren’t really going to be swayed either way. Always remember. Think of your person of average intelligence. Half of the population is dumber.
I feel that your dad was exactly right.But when the abortion issue came into it and the obamacare. Especially when he made Vance answer about the January 6th insurrection. In which Vance didn't answer LOL... Walz nailed the debate
Vance claimed that Trump said to protest PEACEFULLY. He lied. Trump actually said TO FIGHT LIKE HELL, I WILL BE THERE WITH YOU. And then, the riot ensued!
Waltz won. Vance still doesn't state Trump lost the 2020 election. Waltz did well on issues I care about. I feel Vance/ Trump both lie and both take the slimey point of view of moment.
Women know Vance wanted a Nation Abortion Ban. Let the commercials roll. The biggest thing was Walz reminding everyone that Vance wouldn't be there if Pence wasn't a firewall for our Constitution. Vance still stunningly refused to admit Trump lost the 2020 election.
False. Vance is personally against abortion, but wants your opinion heard and Your Vote to matter. He’s pro letting each states voters decide the laws.
Also he didn’t admit or deny the election question. He knew he couldn’t defend his answer in two minutes. He believes mismanagement happens in state voter registration. Please google “Texas removed voters” and you will see a small example. Not saying trump would have won, but that the system needs better management.
@@AshleyGoodwinNaplesPro letting women die getting proper health/emergency care? His agenda is to have a national ban for women to make their own choices for their body's and health. He is a Christian nationalist and has contributed in writing of project 2025.
@@AshleyGoodwinNaplesoh no, he has STATED he wants a NATIONAL FEDERAL ban! PLEASE research. (I’m Republican - voting blue first in 70 years). They are a danger to all women.
@@debmiller651 I literally just took his quote from his speech. He wants to get rid of many pieces of the ACA but KEEP preexisting conditions. You came easily pull his speech to verify
I hope you don't take this in the wrong way, but YOU BOTH ARE SOOOOO ADORABLE. I enjoy your authentic work as father and son; it feels good , real and importantly, trustful. Mahalo nui loa! Thank you.
Vance said that Trump peacefully transferred power on inauguration day! Walz reminded him of Jan 6th. Vance refused to answer if he still would refuse to do what Pence did & to admit that Trump had lost the election. Walz reminded him that he was here, because Pence did his duty. That's where Vance fumbled the ball as time ran out.
😂 "Peaceful transfer" 🤣did Vance really say that, they do that all the time, they say the exact opposite of reality.🙃 Then their followers cheer.🤦♀️ It is just hilarious, the whole world knows Trump threw a tantrum.
Walz was absolutely destroyed. 73% of people said Jd Vance won. Then on top of it Vegas Odds switched to Republican Party. Trump is honestly lucky he has Vance he could never debate like him.
I am a non-partisan, being Australian not American, but anyone who rated Walz the winner of this debate clearly has a bias - I understand of course, one always wants their side to be the winner and also that most of the commentors here will watch this video to confirm that bias knowing in advance that Lichtman will rate their man a winner, interesting to watch though.
I remember one instance where Vance and Walz agreed on the housing issue that govt red tape has to be reviewed to allow for the speedy building of urgently required housing.
He got his arse kicked 😂😂 He admitted he makes stuff up, He thinks israel is iran, he is friends with school shooters and he lied about abortion, healthcare, immigration
@@andrewdixon610actually, he didn’t. I’m Republican, Vance lied totally - our take away was “You said you wouldn’t fact check!” My brother lives in Springfield- TRUMP AND VANCE lied and VANCE admitted he lied on tv! Well, sir your LIES created horrible terror and upset to those poor people of Springfield. That alone will make me vote blue this year.
@@debmiller651 Oh pO you where always voting DEM, The people of springfield overwhelmingly are PO with the immigration dumped on them, walz admitted he made shit up, he lied about his abortion bill, at least three things to do with immigration, Housing, Inflation, the economy and numerous other things. Walz got his arse kicked
Walz did not do well at all. We cannot afford to be biased in this election. Both were civil, which was truly relieving, especially in an era of shallow journalism.
Walz was very uncomfortable in the beginning - BUT ON ISSUES, Walz won. Vance avoided questions and redirected, which is his MO. The proof was Vance stating “ You agreed to not fact check”. My bother lives in Springfield, their lies (which Vance agreed was made up to prove a point”) has caused havoc for those that live in Springfield.
@@tom4270 not sure WHAT media your watching - I’ve watched CBS, NBC , ABC and BBC - they’ve all said - was even until the end when Walz nailed Vance with last question! I REFUSE to watch FAKE FOX - they admitted in court they aren’t news but entertainment.
Trump has repeatedly said the one piece of legislation he wants to preserve is preexisting conditions. In fact he stated “We won't do anything - and no plan - unless we have preexisting conditions covered."
@@AshleyGoodwinNaplesyes and he also said he won the election, he saved Obamacare when it was actually John McCain with the walk into the chambers unexpected to vote NO, he also said Haitians were eating cats and dogs. HE LIES!
@@debmiller651 it’s fact he will keep preexisting conditions. dept of health reportable the record number of disenrolled in 2017. If you don’t believe me than you shouldn’t trust your government bc they are the ones reporting this.
Walz’s “civility” effectively normalized Trump’s delusions. He lost an incredible opportunity to point out that Vance works for the most inappropriate presidential candidate in the US history etc. That’s a demonstration of outright lack of judgment, I’m afraid.
People watching this can tell he was lying. But clearly, there are millions who cannot. I agree that it was frightening how easily Vance seemed to make his lies sound reasonable!
I thought it was pretty good debate. Both VP candidates were fair, consistent, firm and civil. This is how all debates should be. Respectful, attack policy not people on an individual level.
If you are voting on personality type please remember Hitler was called charismatic and well liked by his followers. choose instead NOT to vote at all Or vote on policy.
@@TheSeptemberRose how dare us to judge the heart of a person. You are no God. We can only judge record, policy, consistency and integrity of the work itself. We cannot sit here and play God to everyone’s internal emotions. That is not fact, that is opinion heavily based on internal bias.
Walz won. All around just a mich better decent high quality person. I'll remember the debate. One of the most respectful I've ever watched. Only thing that worries me is that people who don't know Vance might believe him.
I appreciate this debate was more civil than the presidential debate. I wish we could continue being civil in politics and work together on creating common sense laws that would make America a stronger nation. Unfortunately, we all can see that Donald Trump doesn't want bipartisanship. He would rather constantly comment on how he thinks democrats are terrible people. Governor Walz correctly pointed out that Trump killed the immigration bill republicans and democrats were working on. It's also notable in the debate that Vance refused to say Trump lost the election. We need leaders with solutions, not politicians that want us to hate each other.
As I watched the debate, I felt I was in a sci fi movie. Vance presented as human. He used our language. He tried to make his face look warm and welcoming. He tried to be relatable (grandma raised me, mom on drugs, friend had an abortion, beautiful wife, 3 beautiful kids, I agree with Tim). Then when asked if he would be a standup person like Pence and go against Trump, his skin started melting and a lizard alien was left standing.
Vance acted all slick in the beginning but Walz spoke the plain truth and brought the receipts and the real world examples like Obama Care, reproductive care and Jan 6. Walz won that debate hands down.
Beautiful debate! Well done Tim Walz! You are a true scholar and gentleman! I think HE'S the driver of the tone and tenor of tonight's debate!!! 👏🎉
Yeah Walz the goofball is who I want running the country. Unbelievable that you clowns picked someone so very bad. Josh Shapiro is the one and he didn't want to go to a losing cause.
@@theresayockim3750 I don’t agree. Walz’s “civility” effectively normalized Trump’s delusions. He lost an incredible opportunity to point out that Vance works for the most inappropriate presidential candidate in the US history etc. That’s a demonstration of outright lack of judgment, I’m afraid.
@theresayockim3750 Waltz would take your daughter from you in his state if she wants to become a man. He signed legislation allowing this. If Opal wants to become Mike, you the parent must bend the knee to Waltz. Think about the weirdo you love so much Theresa.
He's a Knuckle head, get over yourself
@@edl7454 polls show debate basically tied also improve walz favorability..walz is a gov of a state which is doing pretty pretty well
Happy birthday Jimmy Carter!
Would like to have heard the White House announce researching/setting-up to redeploy solar panels on the White House (to help defray electricity use - esp in the horrid hot, humid summers). Carter had to deal with the first Oil Crisis thanks to Saudi Arabia/OPEC.
It is truely scary a Norwegian like me to see how the focus of most people in the comment sections seem to be who was most slick and secure, and not who lied through the entire night!
When you have Trump.or Vance on stage, the lies are a given, and half the audience either don't realise it, or simply don't care.
Americans like bravado even if you lie a little. We suffer fools unfortunately.
@@angelawhite356 Who was it that admitted he makes shit up on live tV
@@andrewdixon610and it was the most petty thing to focus on. Let's talk about the MULTIPLE lies Va
@@andrewdixon610 that would be Vance, I believe, to try and justify his heinous lies about the Haitian community in Springfield.
Thank you Professor Lichtman. We are long overdue for women having an amendment about reproductive rights. So tired of having men yammering about protecting life and defending bs backward thinking about women having to endure the “inconvenient tragedies”. 💙🌊🌊🌊
Congrats guys on your subs size😁 and You Tube award.
Inconvenient tragedies!! Did you slip? I’m assuming you are a grown woman and know how babies are made. Why is an abortion used as contraceptive? That is the bigger question when there are so many other ways to prevent a pregnancy. Take some responsibilities for your actions. Having an abortion is not actually great on a woman’s body. You risk infection, the possibility of never having a child. All sorts of things can go wrong.
CONGRATULATIONS, gentlemen, on attaining your plaque and 100,000 subscribers. Please keep up the good work. I hope to see you get to 1 million subscribers in a year or two!!!
I just love The Lichtman together. Its like looking at 1960’s Batman and Robin.
I am as old as both of you together. Also I like your system because I am an engineer used to deal with hard and concrete facts rather than assumptions. I assume that both of you know what assume means in the colloquial. Good engineers can not afford to make a mistake because more often than not, that results in fatalities. I contend that wisdom comes with age and broadest possible experience. I fully expect to complete my tenth decade on this Earth located in a place with no sides and no ends.
I'm glad Walz stuck to the issues and policy differences! Going into the gutter with a true gutter rat was not necessary and perilous! WALZ was classy, cool and well spoken!
🎉WALZ FOR THE WIN!🎉
Agree 100% I think you don't win a debate by lying or not answering the question. Walz one on just one question: by him asking Vance who lost 2020 Presidency, and he couldn't answer!! Also January 6!!
Shady vans answer on gun violence was stupid! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@alanking6240 😂😂 delusional much? Cult followers R us!
Great Job Walz on debate 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🗳️
I'm very anxious to see the new ads from the Harris/Walz campaign tomorrow💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Tim Walz is Vice President on day 1. Vance would be forever a Trump troll 🧌!
Until Trump dies or has to resign because of health problems, mental or physical. Vance as president is the stuff of nightmares. Then he could be himself, whoever that is.
Remember- Jd vance is a cheeseburger away from being president.
What scary thought!
Everyone-Please-Vote.
oh boy…
Walz was knowledgable and passionate and set the tone for a more civilized and better political environment. ESPECIALLY after getting rid of maga.
Yet he is friends with school shooters?
Vance wiped the floor, this is total propaganda.
Walz looked like a bafoon.
Actually in most polls they were even or vance had 1 % more but remember there really is no winner in debates , they are there for us to learn of two people. @@Alberth1344
@@juansuarez705well then many love said bafoon.
I just didn't get why Vance lied about Obama Care after the history we saw from McCain before his death.
Because Vance is trying to erase history.
@@jedheart8059 cause he’s speaking to the younger college generation who are not familiar with John McCains work or history.
Thank you for supporting transgender people, my daughter is transgender and I live in very Red North Dakota.
Me too
@kristiemiller3379 it's to bad Waltz doesn't support transgender parents. In his state he supports legislation that will take a child away from you the legal guardian if you don't allow your kid to transition to a new gender.
He overrides parental authority in his state. Waltz is lunatic. Do not thank him.
#TransRightsAreHumanRights #BlackTransLivesMatter
Walz won hands down
Thank you Professor Lichtman for your support and service.
Walz won on substance sincerity and honesty, Vance won on lies and being a snake, which exactly the kind of leader maga likes.
FFS he admitted he makes shit up 😂😂😂😂
@@andrewdixon610SO DID VANCE!
People say this election predictor is not biased but I just don’t know how you can say that when you have yes men like this right here
it’s always orange man bad any democrat good
If that's the only complaint y'all have on a politician good luck hahaha
Walz his care for people shows
@darleneperez8381 He didn't care for when he signed the document stating medical care doesn't have to be given to babies who survive abortion.
He also doesn't care about parents and supported a law allowing the MN government to take away children from parents who won't allow them to "transition" he is not caring that way wouldn't you agree?
@@dman7668 You clearly have no idea what the specifics of those laws are. You're just another ignorant Trump acolyte and sycophant (look up those words), and I'm guessing you're a fake Christian religious maniac, as well.
No matter how smooth Vance may have sounded, he lied many times and in a very glib manner. Slippery!
Walz won
Lmfao! In what universe? Lying ass Democrats as usual.
Dr. Lichtmam nailed it, I think the debate started turning against Vance with his failed defensive filibuster on immigration, then he got walloped on health care and reproductive rights, and his non answer on 2020 was the coup de grace.
@@kinesjl Lichtman is a never Trumper leftist. College professors live in their own little world. They do not have to make a profit. They really have no clue about every day life of a business.
He is 13 keys are good, but some are open to interpretation and he has put an anti-Trump interpretation on them.
Vance lost the debate when he didn’t answer Tim when asked if Trump won election - he didn’t say yes and he didn’t say no Trump gonna be pisssssssed !😂
@@colt5189 It's WALZ, not Waltz. Go back to Germany if you want waltzes.
Ya ok. Waltz looked so flustered. It was so bad. The guy said he's friends with school shooters.
100% That is what I say!!
Yeah ! He's (Vance) there for the future... 😅
Lol he is probably flipping out.
I wish Waltz would have brought up Project 25 and Vance writing the forward for it - especially around choice and climate change. Felt like he had some really good taking points but he didn’t make them. Also I was waiting to see how Vance was going to spin that. I am glad he asked Vance if he would say Trump lost in 2020
Walz won when he brought up Mike pence
Walz won when he pushed the question who won and who lost the 2020 election.
@@DonnaC-w1f You mean the guy Democrats like him and yourself hated until Jan 6th? Interesting.
@@brandonkoncyk1842 I respect each politician who serves country over party even if I disagree with their policies. Pence did exactly that. I wish he followed up with testifying before the American people so they understood immediately how dangerous Trump is to our nation and how he doesn't respect our elections.
JD. VANCE won the Debate STUPID.
VANCE WON THE DEBATE STUPID.!!!!!!!
Thank you Dr Lichtman and Sam!
Vance is dangerous. It's not normal to lie so smoothly
Psychopath!
@@angelacanedit Waltz lied about signing a document supporting letting babies die who were failed abortions. He absolutely lied. He also lied about Trump and Project 2025. He stated women would have to register while pregnant. Something project 2025 doesn't require or even say.
That's why I can never be a low information voter like you.
A win is a win. It doesn't have to be a "slam Dunk" to consider a win. Many team sport games are won by 1 point, and that's enough to warrant a national celebration. Think about it.
Walz was great....thank you Tim Walz you spoke the truth and made vance look like a fool...!!!
I thought Vance was very slick and Walz could've attacked him more, but Vance got derailed at the end with Jan 6th. His loyalties clearly lay with Trump and not the constitution, not the law and not the truth.
Will Vance ever find out who he really is?
@@joannewalters4338 Vance definitely didn't look like a fool at all during the debate. Anybody up voting you for saying that is just being biased.
Your the fool
Vance presented his lies in a fairly gentlemanly fashion.
He's a slippery eel.
Just like Gavin Newscum huh?
@@TheSeptemberRose❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥🤪🤪
@@kevinskiles2033 He’s like a creeper narcissist who swings the door open and charms his way into your life, then your life is never the same when the door shuts behind him. He’s a fancy school debater, that’s what he was taught to do! I don’t trust him because he wasn’t anything like he’s been on the campaign trail in this debate.
Agree. How to be obnoxious in a mild manner.
All this talk about beeing nervous. It is human to be nervous and Walz is nervous because he cares, Trump would never be nervous he just spew out whatever comes in to his narcisstic old mind. I find it charming that bothe Kamala and Walz started out nervous like most of us would.
Trump is never nervous because he has no conscience. Every time he's in front of a microphone, he's thinking, "I have to throw enough crap at the wall to make it stick with just enough people to get the win." It worked in 2016. It hasn't worked since!
I would be so tongue tied. Walz knows the whole world is watching. He's better when he's spontaneous
Walz won 🎉
Yes!
@@lizakopelman Walz was absolutely destroyed. 73% of people said Jd Vance won. Then on top of it Odds switched to Republican Party. Trump is honestly lucky he has Vance he could never debate like him.
Walz won the debate.
It was a shame that no one has made the case that a VP has absolutely no power to make law. 🤔
I've been thinking about that for this entire election season. I keep hearing people ask what she's done during her time in office, but she doesn't get to make the laws. I also thought it was really interesting how Vance kept calling it Kamala Harris' administration. Maybe he was predicting the future. 🤣
YESSSS, like its the dumbest and biggest argument that the trump zombies cling to and it's completely false. I can't believe they aren't swatting that down hard every time its brought up
She can't but the point is why doesn't Biden? He is her boss. Wouldn't she just do what her boss did? Didn't her boss hire her as his assistant because they agreed on policy? It's crazy how people don't get the point of this argument. It's not that she has power to do it herself. It's that Biden is president and he should want to do the things she claims she will do. It's a bad look if Biden doesn't want to do the things she says she will do.
The vp can break a tie in the senate. Harris as vp is now close to becoming prez, which means her overall influence is stronger now, and Vance could easily become president due to trumps age.
@@jamrodgers121Nope. It is the Biden administration. He makes the laws..and Congress. There is no Veep in history that does so.🙄
Anyone who thinks Vance is a reputable human being quite clearly isn't rowing with even one oar. His past and present is of course nowhere nearly as sordid as his boss's - he's not the one on the hook for civil and criminal judgements - but make no mistake about it, he is a vile human being. That's what he has in common with his boss. BUT - he absolutely doesn't have the rhetorical power that Trump does. He could not carry the Republican Party. Vance is actually a bit more educated and doesn't have the 50+ year criminal history and snake oil salesman history that Trump does, and he can't whine his way into tons of support and donations. He's kind of like another Ron DeSantis. Zero charisma.
Vance is scary because he can pretend to be an entirely different person. He was lying through his teeth of course. Tim Walz was honest, but a couple of times I thought he was going to run over and strangle Vance.
He's "scary" as in Halloween scary. I've worked with creeps like him. They're creepy, but that is all. Vance has zero substance or character. Just a wannabe - wanted so much to be part of something big and important and he got the chance. It's okay. After the election, he goes back to wander aimlessly around the halls of Congress.
Lol! Tim Walz was lying a lot. Vance demolished him.
@@brandonkoncyk1842 hahaha dont you wish! 😂 Keep projecting though. Maybe someone will actually listen to you.
@@brandonkoncyk1842found a trumpiee dumbty
@@BenjiOrthopedic Lmfao! You stupid fcking Dems are panicking now I fucking love it! ABC, MSNBC and others admitted Walz was not ready and got smoked. I'm literally watching it right now. 😂
On the stage tonight we had a smiling cobra whose life would be complete if he had the job of putting a Proud Boy in every ob-gyn office, and a real person who cares about the country and its people. VOTE BLUE and we spare ourselves from the former.
"a smiling cobra", you nailed it. Shady 180 Vance always gives me that creepy feel.
@@blondelp8451 Because he's a creep! And creeps all have one thing in common - they always want to spy on others instead of being concerned with themselves. They think they're above it all and simply live to manipulate other people. It's called narcissism.
Waltz was too polite with "Eddie Haskell".
Personally, I'm glad to see a return to civility.
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Walz won more believable 🌟
How? He frequently panicked, he couldn’t explain if his own laws permitted a 9 month old baby surviving an abortion was entitled to medical care. He said he was friends with school shooters, and couldn’t admit he lied regarding his whereabouts during Tiananmen Square protests.
He literally admitted to making shit up 😂😂
Ah yes, the guy that was a bumbling nervous wreck. That really looks like an honest candidate? You can't read body language, clearly.
GM - In a team, there’s always a vocal leader and a quiet one with great ideas, the true pillar of the team. Walz is that quiet one-reliable, trustworthy, always having your back. While you work hard, Walz supports Harris and champions all the right ideas.
Waltz won
I'm a true midwesterner, and I love Tim Walz. He presses all the midwestern buttons and is very likeable. Vance, on the other hand, reminds me of a creepy guy who "hits on" women.
The winning question was when Tim asked Vance to admit Trump lost the election
when someone owns an individual, that person can't say anything which is upsetting to their Owner. 😡
@@robertmartinez4174I can't tell if you're talking about Peter Thiel or Trump lol.
100%
Your delusional
Vance wiped the floor, a masterclass.
Congrats on cracking 100k subscribers🎉 already at 117k 🥳
A wash? Are you kidding? Vance would not say that Trump lost the 2020 election!
Normie voters without partisan allegiance aren’t really going to be swayed either way. Always remember. Think of your person of average intelligence. Half of the population is dumber.
Thank you Gov Tim. You are the FIREWALL, the other guy is crepe paper...
I think they were very respectful with each one and I liked that
I feel that your dad was exactly right.But when the abortion issue came into it and the obamacare. Especially when he made Vance answer about the January 6th insurrection. In which Vance didn't answer LOL... Walz nailed the debate
"Covering Trump is like facing a ‘fertilizer spreader in a windstorm’." - Dan Rather
Great quote. Where did you see that?
@@joannhaddock8003 saw it quite some time ago. I believe I saw it on "Twitter" prior to the Musk purchase.
Saw it some time ago. I believe it was on Twitter prior to the Musk purchase. @@joannhaddock8003
All what Vance said was a lies he didn’t answer any questions.
Vance was the typical creepy used car salesman!
I agree.
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Will the real JD Vance, stand up!!! Weirdo!
That's actually Bernie Moreno you're thinking of.
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All the problems of the world is 'because of the Harris administration'. Really, Vance?
All lies from Shady Vance
Vance claimed that Trump said to protest PEACEFULLY. He lied. Trump actually said TO FIGHT LIKE HELL, I WILL BE THERE WITH YOU. And then, the riot ensued!
Waltz won. Vance still doesn't state Trump lost the 2020 election. Waltz did well on issues I care about. I feel Vance/ Trump both lie and both take the slimey point of view of moment.
It’s spelled Walz, not Waltz 😂
If you've seen the debate, vote blue and like here!
Walz did great with his final remark re, Do you believe Trump lost the 2020 election.
Women know Vance wanted a Nation Abortion Ban. Let the commercials roll. The biggest thing was Walz reminding everyone that Vance wouldn't be there if Pence wasn't a firewall for our Constitution. Vance still stunningly refused to admit Trump lost the 2020 election.
False. Vance is personally against abortion, but wants your opinion heard and Your Vote to matter. He’s pro letting each states voters decide the laws.
Also he didn’t admit or deny the election question. He knew he couldn’t defend his answer in two minutes. He believes mismanagement happens in state voter registration. Please google “Texas removed voters” and you will see a small example. Not saying trump would have won, but that the system needs better management.
@@AshleyGoodwinNaplesPro letting women die getting proper health/emergency care? His agenda is to have a national ban for women to make their own choices for their body's and health. He is a Christian nationalist and has contributed in writing of project 2025.
@@AshleyGoodwinNaplesoh no, he has STATED he wants a NATIONAL FEDERAL ban! PLEASE research. (I’m Republican - voting blue first in 70 years). They are a danger to all women.
@@debmiller651 I literally just took his quote from his speech. He wants to get rid of many pieces of the ACA but KEEP preexisting conditions. You came easily pull his speech to verify
I hope you don't take this in the wrong way, but YOU BOTH ARE SOOOOO ADORABLE. I enjoy your authentic work as father and son; it feels good , real and importantly, trustful. Mahalo nui loa! Thank you.
Thank you. Danke Schoen. Paldies.
🎉🎉🎉 victory for VP Harris and Walz 🎉🎉😊
Vance said that Trump peacefully transferred power on inauguration day! Walz reminded him of Jan 6th. Vance refused to answer if he still would refuse to do what Pence did & to admit that Trump had lost the election. Walz reminded him that he was here, because Pence did his duty. That's where Vance fumbled the ball as time ran out.
😂 "Peaceful transfer" 🤣did Vance really say that, they do that all the time, they say the exact opposite of reality.🙃
Then their followers cheer.🤦♀️
It is just hilarious, the whole world knows Trump threw a tantrum.
Walz was absolutely destroyed. 73% of people said Jd Vance won. Then on top of it Vegas Odds switched to Republican Party. Trump is honestly lucky he has Vance he could never debate like him.
You know someone is lying to you when they say,"Hey you're fact checking me."😭🤣
The moderators must have been lying then. They said, "Hey, vance is fact checking us". Then cut his mic.
I am a non-partisan, being Australian not American, but anyone who rated Walz the winner of this debate clearly has a bias - I understand of course, one always wants their side to be the winner and also that most of the commentors here will watch this video to confirm that bias knowing in advance that Lichtman will rate their man a winner, interesting to watch though.
I remember one instance where Vance and Walz agreed on the housing issue that govt red tape has to be reviewed to allow for the speedy building of urgently required housing.
Vance is a real danger.
Nah. He's a total wimp. Huge mouth, but he'd run away from a fight any day.
Watching this later, I agree with your analysis. Walz had a slow start but ended with a slight advantage. Walz should have attacked more.
I think partisans like the zingers, but Independence don't.
He got his arse kicked 😂😂 He admitted he makes stuff up, He thinks israel is iran, he is friends with school shooters and he lied about abortion, healthcare, immigration
@@andrewdixon610actually, he didn’t. I’m Republican, Vance lied totally - our take away was “You said you wouldn’t fact check!” My brother lives in Springfield- TRUMP AND VANCE lied and VANCE admitted he lied on tv! Well, sir your LIES created horrible terror and upset to those poor people of Springfield. That alone will make me vote blue this year.
@@debmiller651 Oh pO you where always voting DEM, The people of springfield overwhelmingly are PO with the immigration dumped on them, walz admitted he made shit up, he lied about his abortion bill, at least three things to do with immigration, Housing, Inflation, the economy and numerous other things. Walz got his arse kicked
Vance came across as if he's running for President
He basically is, Trump will, in all probability, not last four years.
Prepping for 2028🤔
@@b.douglas2753Yup, and scary. Trump, is fuming tonight as Vance, referred to him as his running mate. He’s pissed!
@nicolaasstempels8207 neither one will be there. End of discussion
@@nicolaasstempels8207Perish the thought Trump would win. That he’s made it this far was not predicted.
JD is the acronym for being shady.... That's what comes across lol 😅
I'm independent and JD Vance won this debate. Tim Walz fumbled a lot, he looked nervous.
Liar. You are a Russian Bot 🤬
Walz did not do well at all. We cannot afford to be biased in this election. Both were civil, which was truly relieving, especially in an era of shallow journalism.
Walz was very uncomfortable in the beginning - BUT ON ISSUES, Walz won. Vance avoided questions and redirected, which is his MO. The proof was Vance stating “ You agreed to not fact check”. My bother lives in Springfield, their lies (which Vance agreed was made up to prove a point”) has caused havoc for those that live in Springfield.
@@tom4270 not sure WHAT media your watching - I’ve watched CBS, NBC , ABC and BBC - they’ve all said - was even until the end when Walz nailed Vance with last question! I REFUSE to watch FAKE FOX - they admitted in court they aren’t news but entertainment.
Please, don't say JD Vance is better debating than Trump, that can kill Trump! 😂
Walz really did win .. Vance felt like he was auditioning for being a convincing liar, and also for the convicted felon’s position.
FFS walz ADMITTED to actually lying 😂😂😂😂😂😂
When Obama did the pre-existing conditions
I was one of those that it saved my life
Trump has repeatedly said the one piece of legislation he wants to preserve is preexisting conditions. In fact he stated “We won't do anything - and no plan - unless we have preexisting conditions covered."
@@AshleyGoodwinNaplesyes and he also said he won the election, he saved Obamacare when it was actually John McCain with the walk into the chambers unexpected to vote NO, he also said Haitians were eating cats and dogs. HE LIES!
@@AshleyGoodwinNaplesHE LIES!
You are the reason my health insurance is so expensive now
@@debmiller651 it’s fact he will keep preexisting conditions. dept of health reportable the record number of disenrolled in 2017. If you don’t believe me than you shouldn’t trust your government bc they are the ones reporting this.
Wolz won. . However , Vance seemed more smooth and confident
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Vance, smooth, and, confident, 😆😆😆👏that is rich.
Vance is a quivering little fluff ball.
Vance is confident and maybe wrong in his confidence
Walz’s “civility” effectively normalized Trump’s delusions. He lost an incredible opportunity to point out that Vance works for the most inappropriate presidential candidate in the US history etc. That’s a demonstration of outright lack of judgment, I’m afraid.
Walz won! Vance was a good liar but everybody can tell he is lying.
I wish everyone could spot a liar 🤦
Clue...... "Stop fact checking me."😭🤣
People watching this can tell he was lying. But clearly, there are millions who cannot.
I agree that it was frightening how easily Vance seemed to make his lies sound reasonable!
@@donnahensley4074 LOL 😆
@@lisadavidson4592 At this point, I believe it is only Republicans who are pretending to be independents, that can't spot JD's lies.
Thank you Dr Lichtman..you and your son are great!!
I thought it was pretty good debate. Both VP candidates were fair, consistent, firm and civil. This is how all debates should be. Respectful, attack policy not people on an individual level.
Walz won.
Experience/substance over style/word salad impression.
JD Vance wasn't actually spewing Trumps "so-called" policies
WALTZ.
Walz obviously lost the debate
Funny thing is - Both guys in the debate hate trump 😂😂
JD Vance clearly won the debate. It wasn't even close. I do comment the gentlemen for being courteous and professional with each other.
If you are voting on personality type please remember Hitler was called charismatic and well liked by his followers. choose instead NOT to vote at all Or vote on policy.
Harris Walz for me 💙🇺🇸
Vance was playing a role.....pretending to care about other people.
You mean like 90% of dems voting on personality
@@andrewdixon610 The analogy on personality is about JD Vance cause he's so "polished" and a "smooth talker", but if that appeals to you, go for it.
@@TheSeptemberRose how dare us to judge the heart of a person. You are no God. We can only judge record, policy, consistency and integrity of the work itself. We cannot sit here and play God to everyone’s internal emotions. That is not fact, that is opinion heavily based on internal bias.
Love watching the father and son interaction. Keep up the good work.
If you were on of those people who believed Jimmy Swaggart, you believed JD Vance. I never believed Jimmy Swaggart.
Vance clearly won.
Walz won. All around just a mich better decent high quality person. I'll remember the debate. One of the most respectful I've ever watched. Only thing that worries me is that people who don't know Vance might believe him.
congrats on your award!! I really wanted your take on the debate, and your observations are always so helpful!!
JD Vance looks like the love child between a Care Bear and Chucky…
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Exactly
I appreciate this debate was more civil than the presidential debate. I wish we could continue being civil in politics and work together on creating common sense laws that would make America a stronger nation. Unfortunately, we all can see that Donald Trump doesn't want bipartisanship. He would rather constantly comment on how he thinks democrats are terrible people. Governor Walz correctly pointed out that Trump killed the immigration bill republicans and democrats were working on. It's also notable in the debate that Vance refused to say Trump lost the election. We need leaders with solutions, not politicians that want us to hate each other.
Vance is slick, but people see through him. That's why his ratings are the worst in VP history at this point in the election.
You have become biased. I don’t trust your usage of the keys anymore.
The keys are not biased.
TDS is eating his brain unfortunately
The only important moment in this debate was when Vance refused to say Trump lost the 2020 election.
“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon...or that he’s America’s Hitler. How’s that for discouraging?” - JD Vance.
Walz is likable in day to day living. Even if he lost the debate, people would not change their opinion of him.
I saw a split. Vance is s charming liar. Wslz made good points but did not have the best delivery at times.
Walz has a great authentic appeal. JD Vance is slippery.
Walz is not a "pit-bull" to bite his head off. He made Vance come down to his level & subdued Vance
Haha wrong 😂
Agree - it almost seemed as Vance respected Walz and he doesn't usually respect anyone.
Change “down” to “up”.
Good Point and analogy!!
As I watched the debate, I felt I was in a sci fi movie. Vance presented as human. He used our language. He tried to make his face look warm and welcoming. He tried to be relatable (grandma raised me, mom on drugs, friend had an abortion, beautiful wife, 3 beautiful kids, I agree with Tim). Then when asked if he would be a standup person like Pence and go against Trump, his skin started melting and a lizard alien was left standing.
Vance acted all slick in the beginning but Walz spoke the plain truth and brought the receipts and the real world examples like Obama Care, reproductive care and Jan 6. Walz won that debate hands down.
Thanks y’all!
Stop sending him the same questions 😂😂 blessings from King Lumerious in Santa Barbara California 😊
Vance will take any shape to fit anywhere.If he needs to be a worm he will become wormy.He will be whatever he needs to be to win