@@johngloom9235 Yes I am really suprised, I played live on 6505 a lot now I have DSL20HR and I love my Marshall sound. I really like 6505 but I see that this marshall can be even more brutal :D
I can see the 6505 being the ideal Lead sound, while the Marshall is the ideal Rhythm tone. The 6505 has a nice punchy modern metal tone, whereas the DSL100 has a much 'fuller' sound, with a thunderous mid-range and tight low-end.
Almost too low. Like it's trying to compensate for mid clarity with extra chunk. Pretty even when hitting one string. Who really knows unless you tweek everything yourself.
It's amazing how people can listen to the same thing and draw totally different conclusions. For me, the Marshall sounded really scooped and fizzy. It kinda had that Master of Puppets vibe, though, which was cool. I'm watching this video because I picked up a 6505+ combo tonight and I'm just browsing around, so maybe this is confirmation bias, I don't know. I got a fantastic deal on it and I'm almost thinking about trying to move and it make some money on it, so I'm not all "TEAM 6505+" or anything, but man, it sounded much fuller in the video. Present without sounding nasal or buzzy, and really rich in the low mids. I just liked it better. I enjoy these videos, I bought a Hughes & Kettner TriAmp MkII because of your shootout video with it, so keep it up, it's appreciated!
Personally I always thought peavey 6505 to be the best all around metal amp. It has everything you need without being too special. Need a good midrange tone for some modern or new death metal? 6505 has it, need extreme gain and low end for old school death? It's got it. Need some thrashy tones? It can do it. It's not gonna dominate everything but it's a really great amp!
I've watched most of this channels "dsl vs x" shootouts and it seems like the comments on every one of them are people saying the dsl sounds better. But I'm just not hearing it. To me the dsl sounds very scooped and fizzy. Like the bass and treble are set to 10 and the mids are 0 with the gain turned all the way up.
Every DSL HR Video from you Sounds Just awesome! Love your vids... Waiting hard for the Seymour Duncan Blackout comparison Video! Cheers Dude keep in rocking 🤟🤟
I think the Pickup Shoot-Outs are a bit on the back burner at the moment. I keep buying amp heads Hahaha! I was thinking about doing a Blackouts vs EMG 81 vs JB or something along those lines, though in the next month or two. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar hahaha thats awesome to bro... Love your amp vids to and your Tones in General 🤟 and emg 81 vs Blackout vs JB or emg 57 is exactly what i'm waiting for👊
If you get the 6 button footswitch for the marshall it turns it into a 4 channel amp and you can turn on and off the fx loop and toggle between the two master volumes. Some people say It's not perfect but it works perfectly me.
Marshall sounds really compressed. I love the DSL 1 for bedroom use. But it does seem too compressed for me. The TS9 doesn’t help that either. Other drives sound more open. But Peavey for me in this one. Check out the Invective it’s really good
The best thing would be reamping through the two amps and mixing them for maximum guitar tone, 6505 is chunky and full of mids, DSL is more scooped and high frequency friendly. God how I need a marshall in my life haha.
Actually don’t know if you saw the Ola video where he test like 6 heads with different cans my favorite by far was a Marshall head and mesa cab sounded sick
@TriCrow Studios I have the DSL15 and the DSL20, and you are right: The HR generation has a slight treble boost vis-a-vis the H. Put differently, and to give anyone reading this an idea, the H sounds more like the Peavey here, but nowhere near the level of low mids/mids (600-800Hz) that the Peavey has. Overall, I perceive the HR as more scooped and fizzier than the H, but, as I have learned from your videos, that is not necessarily a bad thing. Personally, I perceive the Peavey sound as more modern, whereas the DSL sound is more Mesa like in quality. Still British but with a dose of the American. Someone in the comments below compared the DSL to Master of Puppets. I would say that's a pretty good comparison.
I own both these amps and they're both great, honestly. I like the Marshall for cleans and more rock type sounds and I like the Peavey for straight up metal. It's got that crazy subwoofer chug that just cuts through a live band.
Great video! Marshall has a better rocking tune than the Peavey, both are great amps, but DSL100HR it has more variety sounds than the Peavey but for leads I will choose the Peavey
Is it just me, or does the DSL seem a bit more present in the mix? It could just be because the DSL has more treble output than the 6505+, but it sounds more up front than the 6505+
Thanks! I’ll put it on the list! It IS a long list, though! I’ve got a Marshall Origin 50, Mesa Boogie Mark IIb, Randall Diavlo 100, Randall Thrasher 120, and Rivera Knucklehead Tre Reverb 120... either here or on their way to me. So keep your eyes out for some more Shootouts in the near future! Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar look for a Facebook group called Heavy Metal Amps and Pedals. Join the group and post your videos there. The group is at 30k+ people. It'll help gain you some followers
Great stuff!! I got the Marshall and same Les Paul and have been using for years. Question: Marshall setting (tone shift? Channel? Etc.) would love to know string gauge and tuning. I use 10-46 1/2 step down with EMG 81/85!
I prefer the 6505 plus without the boost and the DSL with the boost. I have both amps and they sound pretty much like this video. Thanks for the demo man!!!
I know this is an old video but from your playthrough the Marshall seems like it has room to breathe the 6505+ seems like it is more sterile. I do have the Marshall DSL100HR I am enjoying it. I do run pedals through it also. At the moment I am running the Marshall through a modified Crate cab with vintage British Celestion Greenbacks, and I have a Joyo Meteor lunchbox amp going through a block letter Peavey 5150 cab using a Radial aby switcher with pedals. I have not tried the Marshall with the 5150 cab yet, but I may swap the two heads. I am a solo artist so I experiment with sound and tones. I figure with the setup I run I can make my sound fuller with both amp heads and cabinets since I am the only guitarist. Do not get me wrong the 6505+ does sound awesome but it seems like it is more locked in rhythm territory. It would be interesting to hear you record a song with both amps with bass and drums but use the Marshall on one cut and the 6505+ on another. I believe both amps will compliment two guitarists in a band. Both amps to me seem solid for lead or rhythm. Thank you for you review.
I’ve got a Marshall Origin... that would be the only low cost tube head that I will buy. We buy all of our stuff so we would want to keep whatever we buy and unfortunately I don’t have any interest in much amps under that pricing. Cheers -Ryan
I have 2 videos already with the Origin 50. One that is just a few Metal tones with a TS9 and a shootout against the DSL 100HR. The Origin 50 is great, but for high gain you really have to throw an Overdrive in front and you have to CRANK the Master. Cheers -Ryan
Didn't expect it but honestly the marshall blows the peavey away! It just sounds ks much alive and aggressive.! Both are great but I am loving the dsl.
I prefered peavey 6505 over mesa dual rec, mesa over marshall dsl and Marshall over peavey. That was my honest opinion when I blind listened your vids. I think the Marshall is overall best out of those in my opinion but all of them are really good.
I never could get the tone I wanted from Peavey amps. Of course not counting the 5150s. There's always some weird nasally frequency I can never get rid of no matter how much I tweak or even use EQs. I guess Marshall sort of has the same issue in that there are certain characteristics they have that you can't get away from completely but I LIKE that issue with Marshall amps 😄 Just my ears I guess. To each their own of course 😁
For the price the dsl is so much better IMO, But I can’t say one is better because people have different uses for their amps. So for the Marshall because it’s got some Fuzz with it but it’s no overpowering everything else. Also IMO the marshal sounds more modern then the peavy that IMO doesn’t sound like something I’d use for myself.
My 2 favorite brands of amps I think Peavey sounds heavier - with more lows and low mids which for most hard rock i think wins, but EQ could make them a closer match- I do love Marshall and on its own without a comparison probably would have enjoyed more- But compared to Peavey it sounded too top trebly and thin- more balls to Peavey
I am not sure where you, and so many other viewers who have commented, are hearing a scoop on the Peavey. I would genuinely love to have you explain in a little more detail how you define a scoop and where it can be heard on the Peavey. Maybe I am missing something.
I am surprised how much I like the Marshall over the peavey,was not expecting that.
Yeah, it sounds terrific
@@johngloom9235 Yes I am really suprised, I played live on 6505 a lot now I have DSL20HR and I love my Marshall sound. I really like 6505 but I see that this marshall can be even more brutal :D
I think I prefer the Marshall DSL 100HR so far in all of your reviews I've watched
Dude the Hughes kettner tri amp mark 2 he did is pretty sick also with the dsl
I like the Marshall. Its the perfect match for a Les Paul and Humbuckers…
I can see the 6505 being the ideal Lead sound, while the Marshall is the ideal Rhythm tone.
The 6505 has a nice punchy modern metal tone, whereas the DSL100 has a much 'fuller' sound, with a thunderous mid-range and tight low-end.
I prefer the Peavey again. 6505 defines the modern metal tone! Like the Mesa, the Marshall was quite fizzy in comparison...
Almost too low. Like it's trying to compensate for mid clarity with extra chunk. Pretty even when hitting one string. Who really knows unless you tweek everything yourself.
Booth sound awesome. I think what matters more are the riffs!
Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺🇵🇹
It's amazing how people can listen to the same thing and draw totally different conclusions. For me, the Marshall sounded really scooped and fizzy. It kinda had that Master of Puppets vibe, though, which was cool. I'm watching this video because I picked up a 6505+ combo tonight and I'm just browsing around, so maybe this is confirmation bias, I don't know. I got a fantastic deal on it and I'm almost thinking about trying to move and it make some money on it, so I'm not all "TEAM 6505+" or anything, but man, it sounded much fuller in the video. Present without sounding nasal or buzzy, and really rich in the low mids. I just liked it better. I enjoy these videos, I bought a Hughes & Kettner TriAmp MkII because of your shootout video with it, so keep it up, it's appreciated!
Personally I always thought peavey 6505 to be the best all around metal amp. It has everything you need without being too special. Need a good midrange tone for some modern or new death metal? 6505 has it, need extreme gain and low end for old school death? It's got it. Need some thrashy tones? It can do it. It's not gonna dominate everything but it's a really great amp!
I've watched most of this channels "dsl vs x" shootouts and it seems like the comments on every one of them are people saying the dsl sounds better. But I'm just not hearing it. To me the dsl sounds very scooped and fizzy. Like the bass and treble are set to 10 and the mids are 0 with the gain turned all the way up.
Its really interesting how different they are , its one of the best videos i have seen for those
I love you authenticity man. Active pick ups make the 6505+ unmatched been thru them thangs nothing beats it with actives.
Track one left and one right they'd sound nice together. But I'd pull back on some of the treble from the marshall and add more mids
Going with the Marshall on this one. Sounds killer
Every DSL HR Video from you Sounds Just awesome! Love your vids... Waiting hard for the Seymour Duncan Blackout comparison Video! Cheers Dude keep in rocking 🤟🤟
I think the Pickup Shoot-Outs are a bit on the back burner at the moment. I keep buying amp heads Hahaha! I was thinking about doing a Blackouts vs EMG 81 vs JB or something along those lines, though in the next month or two. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar hahaha thats awesome to bro... Love your amp vids to and your Tones in General 🤟 and emg 81 vs Blackout vs JB or emg 57 is exactly what i'm waiting for👊
If you get the 6 button footswitch for the marshall it turns it into a 4 channel amp and you can turn on and off the fx loop and toggle between the two master volumes. Some people say It's not perfect but it works perfectly me.
Yeah my JVM Footswitch works with it... still the same amount of channels and modes... just more easily accessible. Cheers -Ryan
I like the facr that Tricrow always did a review on a gear that i was aiming. In this case now im gassing for the DSL HEAD
Well I think you struck gold here lol... we have A TON of videos on the DSL! hahaha Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar lol yeah man. Lots of it haha
Marshall sounds really compressed. I love the DSL 1 for bedroom use. But it does seem too compressed for me. The TS9 doesn’t help that either. Other drives sound more open. But Peavey for me in this one. Check out the Invective it’s really good
With Marshall heads the boss sd1 is the way to go it really brings the amp to life
If you have the drive at zero, most overdrives do not differ significantly.
The best thing would be reamping through the two amps and mixing them for maximum guitar tone, 6505 is chunky and full of mids, DSL is more scooped and high frequency friendly. God how I need a marshall in my life haha.
Oh man you deliver great videos.
Thanks... I like to play. Cheers -Ryan
great video! both sound good. i prefer the 6505+ just a bit more though.
Note to self, Marshall head and Mesa cab!
One day I'll be able to afford one of them! XD
Actually don’t know if you saw the Ola video where he test like 6 heads with different cans my favorite by far was a Marshall head and mesa cab sounded sick
I prefer the peavey for the low end characteristics, but the mid range harmonics of the Marshall create beautifully warm lead tones.
Great shoot out! Can anyone tell where the gain is at on the marshall? Peavey is only at 3!
Those riffs are amazing
I wish he gave music lessons on the channel because he does the best playing I ever listened to.
@TriCrow Studios I have the DSL15 and the DSL20, and you are right: The HR generation has a slight treble boost vis-a-vis the H. Put differently, and to give anyone reading this an idea, the H sounds more like the Peavey here, but nowhere near the level of low mids/mids (600-800Hz) that the Peavey has. Overall, I perceive the HR as more scooped and fizzier than the H, but, as I have learned from your videos, that is not necessarily a bad thing. Personally, I perceive the Peavey sound as more modern, whereas the DSL sound is more Mesa like in quality. Still British but with a dose of the American. Someone in the comments below compared the DSL to Master of Puppets. I would say that's a pretty good comparison.
Even though this is not my style of Rock / Metal... I like watching your reviews
I own both these amps and they're both great, honestly. I like the Marshall for cleans and more rock type sounds and I like the Peavey for straight up metal. It's got that crazy subwoofer chug that just cuts through a live band.
I own The Marshall DSL 100HR and the Peavey 3120... Love both Amps
I have the 20 watt combo and i really love it but I also want a 6505mh to run in stereo because I feel like they’ll pair very well together
How would you tun these 2 together in stereo? Noob here lol
Great video! Marshall has a better rocking tune than the Peavey, both are great amps, but DSL100HR it has more variety sounds than the Peavey but for leads I will choose the Peavey
Is it just me, or does the DSL seem a bit more present in the mix? It could just be because the DSL has more treble output than the 6505+, but it sounds more up front than the 6505+
Perfect shootout! Thanks you!
Hey mate would love to hear the jcm 2000 dsl 50 up against the peavey 6505+ keep these vids going there amazing 🔥🤘🏻
Thanks! I’ll put it on the list! It IS a long list, though! I’ve got a Marshall Origin 50, Mesa Boogie Mark IIb, Randall Diavlo 100, Randall Thrasher 120, and Rivera Knucklehead Tre Reverb 120... either here or on their way to me. So keep your eyes out for some more Shootouts in the near future! Cheers -Ryan
Love these shoot out videos
Thanks! I'll be making more shortly... I'm just waiting on 4 more Amp Heads to be delivered. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar look for a Facebook group called Heavy Metal Amps and Pedals. Join the group and post your videos there. The group is at 30k+ people. It'll help gain you some followers
Great stuff!! I got the Marshall and same Les Paul and have been using for years. Question: Marshall setting (tone shift? Channel? Etc.) would love to know string gauge and tuning. I use 10-46 1/2 step down with EMG 81/85!
Thanks! I use 10-46… usually drop tunnings for these videos, and I always change my settings and never write them down hahaha! Cheers -Ryan
I prefer the 6505 plus without the boost and the DSL with the boost. I have both amps and they sound pretty much like this video. Thanks for the demo man!!!
If you were to keep just one ?
If you had to keep one ?
OMG THE RIFFZ! I LOVE THEM
Marshall have British character amplifier and i believe with bright sound from Marshall.
I know this is an old video but from your playthrough the Marshall seems like it has room to breathe the 6505+ seems like it is more sterile. I do have the Marshall DSL100HR I am enjoying it. I do run pedals through it also. At the moment I am running the Marshall through a modified Crate cab with vintage British Celestion Greenbacks, and I have a Joyo Meteor lunchbox amp going through a block letter Peavey 5150 cab using a Radial aby switcher with pedals. I have not tried the Marshall with the 5150 cab yet, but I may swap the two heads. I am a solo artist so I experiment with sound and tones. I figure with the setup I run I can make my sound fuller with both amp heads and cabinets since I am the only guitarist. Do not get me wrong the 6505+ does sound awesome but it seems like it is more locked in rhythm territory. It would be interesting to hear you record a song with both amps with bass and drums but use the Marshall on one cut and the 6505+ on another. I believe both amps will compliment two guitarists in a band. Both amps to me seem solid for lead or rhythm. Thank you for you review.
Both Sounds Great!! But if I had to choose I'd go with the 6505 it has more the sound I'm Looking for!
Everyone is gonna be wishing they had the 6505 once they add a bass to the mix lol
can you do a hi gain review on the Bugera g20 infinium? or like any lo cost tube Amps?
I’ve got a Marshall Origin... that would be the only low cost tube head that I will buy. We buy all of our stuff so we would want to keep whatever we buy and unfortunately I don’t have any interest in much amps under that pricing. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar yes please a origin is on my list
@@Crypticmaskguitar if you can do a Marshall origin that would be awesome.
I have 2 videos already with the Origin 50. One that is just a few Metal tones with a TS9 and a shootout against the DSL 100HR. The Origin 50 is great, but for high gain you really have to throw an Overdrive in front and you have to CRANK the Master. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar thanks man your the best I’ll check those videos out
Didn't expect it but honestly the marshall blows the peavey away! It just sounds ks much alive and aggressive.! Both are great but I am loving the dsl.
Now put them together stereo
the 2 best head for the 1k price range.
Marshall for sure for my taste.
Like Zakk Wylde says you can't go wrong with anything that says Marshall on it.
Both were good.. But Marshall was more killer sound..
BOTH!!!
Peavey for me, Marshall not bad, but a little fuzzy
Fantastic video. 6505 for me.
Marshall seems to me to have better presence and bottom end and still has that nice British fizz.
I like the more focused 6505+/
I prefered peavey 6505 over mesa dual rec, mesa over marshall dsl and Marshall over peavey. That was my honest opinion when I blind listened your vids. I think the Marshall is overall best out of those in my opinion but all of them are really good.
They all have their places, that’s for sure! Cheers -Ryan
I can only like ONCE!
Marshall for me :)
I actually prefer that mid range sizzle from the Marshall.
I never could get the tone I wanted from Peavey amps. Of course not counting the 5150s. There's always some weird nasally frequency I can never get rid of no matter how much I tweak or even use EQs. I guess Marshall sort of has the same issue in that there are certain characteristics they have that you can't get away from completely but I LIKE that issue with Marshall amps 😄 Just my ears I guess. To each their own of course 😁
For the price the dsl is so much better IMO, But I can’t say one is better because people have different uses for their amps. So for the Marshall because it’s got some Fuzz with it but it’s no overpowering everything else. Also IMO the marshal sounds more modern then the peavy that IMO doesn’t sound like something I’d use for myself.
My 2 favorite brands of amps
I think Peavey sounds heavier - with more lows and low mids which for most hard rock i think wins, but EQ could make them a closer match- I do love Marshall and on its own without a comparison probably would have enjoyed more- But compared to Peavey it sounded too top trebly and thin- more balls to Peavey
Peavey all the way
Marshall crushed it!
Poor Marshall. The fight was over before it even started. 6505+ all day all night and twice on Sunday. 🤘
nice comparison Marshall is more classic & vintage and Peavey modern hi gain amp
both amp good and got own style of sound. its ur choice
All this video made me do is want both 😅......both are great. I own the 6505 and its how I hear music in my head.
The Marshall sounds better to my ears, sharper mids and highs. Kind of the difference between a bridge pickup and middle
6505+. Easy.
peavey for me
Surprised to think this but man, the Marshall wins here, it just sounds...better! Hmmm
My Marshall DSL100HR wasn't made in Vietnam because I put a British flag sticker over where it says "made in Vietnam". 😆
The marshall sounded better boosted but peavey sounded meaner and fuller unboosted
DSL’s sound like a can of bees and the low end is loose and weak. The Peaveys sound massive.
My ears say Marshall wins this showdown
Peavey wins 🤟🤟🤟
The 6505 had more to give
Hands down the Marshall has a better sound!
Marshall sounds like it has built in fuzz.
DSL again. Peavey scoop gets old fast, but I could listen to that Marshall all night.
I am not sure where you, and so many other viewers who have commented, are hearing a scoop on the Peavey. I would genuinely love to have you explain in a little more detail how you define a scoop and where it can be heard on the Peavey. Maybe I am missing something.
Marshall
peavey.
dsl sucks.period.it's very unpleasantly and surprisingly scooped compared to the 6505.