Playing Gief in mvc2 takes a person that’s built different, man. Like that’s a character that almost no one would gravitate to in a game like that. I love it when players go against the grain.
It also makes them so much harder to defeat, because there's so little experience fighting people who are actually GREAT at playing them. To say nothing of the lack of data online, compared to so many others frequently
@@Pax_Mayn3its pretty obvious. In a game where the meta is essentially zoning/8 way airdashers backed by powerful assists picking a grappler point is hard mode.
Mugai is a beast, this Gief is great to watch and learn, like Strago or evilmaxdark Gief. Also, mech gief is the only toon that can absorb the chun super (until i know, most broken inmunity one vs other supers) and still hit chun in the proces. Gief well playerd can be a nightmare for any team, that is OD. Shout out to Mugai, that men is really good and mad fun.
Dang, this player is nuts. He got all the techs and answers in those matches. Pretty awesome seeing other characters in MvC2 being used at this level too.
Mugai is probably my favorite MvC2 channel. Watching him rinse people with Gief and S. Samurai has me rolling every time. Glad to see you're enjoying it too.
I love how Mugai specifically created his team around Zangief. The Silver Samurai and Jin assists forces the opponent to block a lot of the time, giving Zangief multiple opportunities to command grab his opponent. It's genius.
It makes sense that he can call assists there I guess. Because since he's armored up, he never goes into hit stun or block stun, meaning that he can call his assist.
That was really entertaining. Funny how even in a crazy movement game like Mvc2, a grappler can still make us want to jump for our lives even if they are ready to scoop and bring us back down to earth, lol.
Cool performance of Mugai with Gief. It´s so fun to watch how he beat top players characters with him. Also Strago and Evilmaxdark are great players with Gief I watched similar sequence an strategies from them. That would be great a set a Gief Challenge with all of them.
What we learned from Mugai Baso when playing MVC2: - The MVC1 tactic on Zangief(multiple Aerial Russian Slam use) works well in MVC2 but fast paced - Mecha Zangief can still call assist even when being hit - Silver Samurai can use Ice Armor 3 times just to get Hyper Armor and his Koori no Ken just gotten powerful it even knocks out fighters on assist. - 12:40 - Cyclops got wrecked by Jin's Blodia Punch!!! Unblockable by the last frame. - 16:35 - Jin can cancel special moves into Blodia Vulcan! Good for baiting traps.
I feel the same way. The fact that it's a team game means you can formulate teams and strategies that are much stronger than any individual character. Sure the tiers exist but they don't give you free wins.
That was insane! I love seeing crazy stuff I’ve never seen from this game years later. It just keeps giving! Hopefully it’ll get its well deserved modern release
Honestly, Justin--this should be a series, with you highlighting individual characters, their best players, and optimal tech for each. What separates @mugai_baso's Zangief and Silver Samurai from other top-level players? What are they doing/not doing differently that gives these characters potential?
When I was a kid I would play mvc2 on a dreamcast with my neighbor. He would do that silver samurai ice tech, I thought it was mad busted. As I got older I figured this strategy wasn’t that good since I never saw anyone else use it. my friend was always good at finding strategies, I guess that’s why he’s a professional poker player now xD
Yo Justin, Blackheart assist is a FOLLOW AND HIT ANY HEIGHT on the opponent ASSIST ATTACK. VS stuck above the screen opponents or even completely off-screen opponents, Blackheart hits the opponent. Via end boss of mvc2 last boss off screen attack or positioning.
VDO is really fun to watch too with his Rogue/Colossus/Ken team. It's insane to see these players just destroy top tier teams with low/lower tier characters.
This was great. I'm never gonna complain about who plays what, high or low tier, but I appreciate this one. Some of these team games are under explored and I wish I could get my hands on them.
I can't believe I never saw that blodia vulcan bait in all my time fighting good Jin players in the arcade! How are there still new tricks in MVC2?! Favorite vid I've seen in a while, really love the innovative MVC2 and deep commentary.
I am training Zangief in McCall collection and not only that I am training him for Capcom Fighting Collection 2 when it arrives in 2025 great video JWong
Been playing MvC2 since it came out in the Arcades, but just recently I've been seeing the most amazing and creative players so far since back then everyone just picked the same characters
We can see that antiair move, that is an innovation of this franchise, really helped him. It makes him similar to Hugo with that antiair grab. That makes it look like it was a good idea that he never gained a regular antiair move like that in mainline SF, that isnt a super (SFA and SF6).
This reminds me of a fun team I made with Felicia Morrigan and strange in mvc3. The mixups with Felicia on point and kitty helper, with eye of agamotto assist, and having Felicias command grab? Was low tier at the end of the day but fucked ALOT of people up, lol. Block eye, and either kittyhelper overhead or cat scratch grab was gonna get you. Plus a solid strange and Morrigan. Morrigan on bar assist with Felicia meter charge meant so much bar that kitty helper was almost ALWAYS out. Games are fun when you don't sweat/duplicate top tier 24/7. This gief is AWESOME. Lmao
I've been running a game club at the school I work at. Too games played? Soul Calibur (dreamcast), and MVC2 (PS3). Funny enough, I just started playing Zangief. Great timing for this video. 🤣
I just have to apologize to you Justin. I thought I just stumbled on someone good at fighting games that made some pretty good content. I had no idea you are like the GOAT of EVO championships. Well done! Out here enjoying this guys content without having a clue lol oopsie.
I have learned so much about Gief to help me out. Only issue is I love my low tiers and I can't use Jin so I need some low tier assists to help with that style.
i used to play Zangief and war machine in mvc1 won 2 torunys with that team. and zangief in 2 was fun cause no one played him but me and no one knew how to play vs him lol. i only zangief in sf6 now just got it 3 weeks ago havent played a street fighter since super sf2.
Zangief is one of my favorite guys to use and he has an edge on the top tiers since they’re not used to his antics (love playing against sentinel). Love from my Russian mafia team: Zangief (ground assist on iron gief), Colossus, and Omega Red.
he called an assist, while being hit already inside a birthday party.... so all 3 of his characters were on screen. Thing with the grab assist is, if you are in block stun you cant block a thro assist. That repulsor blast can OTG and then you can use lightning off Silver Samurai, Omega Reds X or the hail storm by Storm.
Repeating Aerial Slam to condition the opponent and when the opponent is scared he lands the Final Atomic Buster It's scarier than the Potemkim jumpscare
I honestly discovered this guy about a month ago and my friends laughed at me that Sanford can be played competitively in mvc2. When I showed them Mugai for the first time use zangief, jaws dropped needless to say. Now everyone is trying their hand with Zangief and to no avail like Mugai.
Playing Gief in mvc2 takes a person that’s built different, man. Like that’s a character that almost no one would gravitate to in a game like that. I love it when players go against the grain.
What do you mean, that was my go to. Him and dhalsim.
@@Pax_Mayn3 you’re rare is what I mean.
It also makes them so much harder to defeat, because there's so little experience fighting people who are actually GREAT at playing them. To say nothing of the lack of data online, compared to so many others frequently
@@Pax_Mayn3its pretty obvious. In a game where the meta is essentially zoning/8 way airdashers backed by powerful assists picking a grappler point is hard mode.
I always liked to turn him to Mecha mode and use his throw assist into Silver Samurai's electric super.
Seeing Cable and Sentinel getting their asses whooped by Zangief in this game brings a Kool-Aid smile to my face
XD
OH YEAHHHHHH 🍷
Same😂
11:42 *inhales deeply* ....ah yes, 😤a fresh of breath air
I need some
Bruh. This guy living his LIFE in command grab windows. All respect
its "bro" you hipster millennial hipster
@@STOP_FAKENEWSloser alert!
@@STOP_FAKENEWS bruh is used for disbelief
Mugai is a beast, this Gief is great to watch and learn, like Strago or evilmaxdark Gief.
Also, mech gief is the only toon that can absorb the chun super (until i know, most broken inmunity one vs other supers) and still hit chun in the proces.
Gief well playerd can be a nightmare for any team, that is OD.
Shout out to Mugai, that men is really good and mad fun.
Dang, this player is nuts. He got all the techs and answers in those matches. Pretty awesome seeing other characters in MvC2 being used at this level too.
No matter what game he's in, it is ALWAYS fun to watch a good Zangief player!
14:50 Justin of all people should know that it's never over 'til it's over!
6:20
Got a full team? You can lose it in a second!
Another chapter of why JWong hate Zangief, but this time is a showcase of the supreme Gief player in MVC2
I'm here for it every time😂😂❤❤
13:03 This frame of Cyclops should become a meme. Like the Yamcha death pose, or the Family Guy death pose.
Mugai is probably my favorite MvC2 channel. Watching him rinse people with Gief and S. Samurai has me rolling every time. Glad to see you're enjoying it too.
I love how Mugai specifically created his team around Zangief. The Silver Samurai and Jin assists forces the opponent to block a lot of the time, giving Zangief multiple opportunities to command grab his opponent. It's genius.
Oh man, Silver Samurai has all sorts of weird interactions with his armor buffs. I never realized how strong his ice super is.
Right!? Borders on insane!!!
Was beautiful
I knew someone back in high school that would do the three Zangief thing. He called it the Flying Zangief Brothers and it was super obnoxious lol.
It’s so crazy that there is still new tech to find in MVC2. This game is never boring
To me, only if there is no tier whoring on both sides
It makes sense that he can call assists there I guess. Because since he's armored up, he never goes into hit stun or block stun, meaning that he can call his assist.
11:44 editor you ain’t have to blow my guys analogy up like that
😂😂😂
Amazing video. Thank you Justin for the MvC2 video!!
“What u jumping for boy” in Smug voice
"Acting like you won't get command grabbed!"
with the greatest of ease
"Don't jump!"
That was really entertaining. Funny how even in a crazy movement game like Mvc2, a grappler can still make us want to jump for our lives even if they are ready to scoop and bring us back down to earth, lol.
The dude is extremely effective with this team. By far the best Zangief I’ve ever seen in MvC2. Relentless rush down is insane.
So glad you found him. Such a fun channel. I believe VDO has fought him.
12:42
Cyclops: I'm gonna block that super
Jin: Hold my beer
Yo is that CHEDDAH GIEF?!
All i could think about
CHEDDA GIEF!!
Cool performance of Mugai with Gief. It´s so fun to watch how he beat top players characters with him. Also Strago and Evilmaxdark are great players with Gief I watched similar sequence an strategies from them. That would be great a set a Gief Challenge with all of them.
This team made me sooooo Happy to watch. Thank you for posting this Justin so good.
What we learned from Mugai Baso when playing MVC2:
- The MVC1 tactic on Zangief(multiple Aerial Russian Slam use) works well in MVC2 but fast paced
- Mecha Zangief can still call assist even when being hit
- Silver Samurai can use Ice Armor 3 times just to get Hyper Armor and his Koori no Ken just gotten powerful it even knocks out fighters on assist.
- 12:40 - Cyclops got wrecked by Jin's Blodia Punch!!! Unblockable by the last frame.
- 16:35 - Jin can cancel special moves into Blodia Vulcan! Good for baiting traps.
It's so fun to watch modern MvC2. Yes yes we know what the top tiers are, but everyone in mid tier has something going for them.
I feel like the non god tier characters in mvc2 have so much unexplored potential, even after all these years.
I feel the same way. The fact that it's a team game means you can formulate teams and strategies that are much stronger than any individual character. Sure the tiers exist but they don't give you free wins.
8:55 that was really great combo to lvl3. thx so much for showing us this guy. he is truly a gem to watch for :)
That was insane! I love seeing crazy stuff I’ve never seen from this game years later. It just keeps giving! Hopefully it’ll get its well deserved modern release
A fresh of breath air.
Honestly, Justin--this should be a series, with you highlighting individual characters, their best players, and optimal tech for each. What separates @mugai_baso's Zangief and Silver Samurai from other top-level players? What are they doing/not doing differently that gives these characters potential?
When I was a kid I would play mvc2 on a dreamcast with my neighbor. He would do that silver samurai ice tech, I thought it was mad busted. As I got older I figured this strategy wasn’t that good since I never saw anyone else use it. my friend was always good at finding strategies, I guess that’s why he’s a professional poker player now xD
this is one of the more satisfying videos I've watched in a while. This guy is dope.
Aight, I got crossed up by the "Fresh of Breath Air" @ 11:43
Never, EVER go in against someone playing Cheddar Gief. If the yellow trunks come out, you quIt IMMEDIATELY.
Being in mvc2 since the dreamcast days; its alot more fun to watch and play oddball character like this now a days.
That was insanely fun to watch
Yo Justin, Blackheart assist is a FOLLOW AND HIT ANY HEIGHT on the opponent ASSIST ATTACK. VS stuck above the screen opponents or even completely off-screen opponents, Blackheart hits the opponent. Via end boss of mvc2 last boss off screen attack or positioning.
VDO is really fun to watch too with his Rogue/Colossus/Ken team. It's insane to see these players just destroy top tier teams with low/lower tier characters.
This was great. I'm never gonna complain about who plays what, high or low tier, but I appreciate this one. Some of these team games are under explored and I wish I could get my hands on them.
the armor for silver samurai comes in very handy
Love seeing the MvC2 vids. That Gief was crazy good.
HOLY SHIT. That solo run with gief was dope.
With all the action happening, I could have swore this was FighterZ. That dude has put some serious time into MvC2
man... that was quite inspiring to watch, it actually made me want to play MVC2 again
This guy is good!
Love to see this kind of teams in this game
i love afresh of breath air. 11:34
I can't believe I never saw that blodia vulcan bait in all my time fighting good Jin players in the arcade! How are there still new tricks in MVC2?! Favorite vid I've seen in a while, really love the innovative MVC2 and deep commentary.
This was so much fun to watch because I've been playing mvc2 again love this game so much
I am training Zangief in McCall collection and not only that I am training him for Capcom Fighting Collection 2 when it arrives in 2025 great video JWong
Been playing MvC2 since it came out in the Arcades, but just recently I've been seeing the most amazing and creative players so far since back then everyone just picked the same characters
Great video Justin! Thanks for the advice on the monitor I was looking for a monitor so I’m gonna get one of these.
It’s rare I see someone that makes my mouth drop from seeing their style of play in a game. This dude has made me want to play mvc2 all over again
18:52 Its just a 360 with kicks instead of punches, no 720s in this game. Still really hard to land tho.
We can see that antiair move, that is an innovation of this franchise, really helped him. It makes him similar to Hugo with that antiair grab. That makes it look like it was a good idea that he never gained a regular antiair move like that in mainline SF, that isnt a super (SFA and SF6).
Naw this is one of my favorite uploads of yours 😂😂😂 about to run it back. I need more smug and you in sf 🤣
Dam. That dude is it. That comeback with gief 🤯
This reminds me of a fun team I made with Felicia Morrigan and strange in mvc3. The mixups with Felicia on point and kitty helper, with eye of agamotto assist, and having Felicias command grab? Was low tier at the end of the day but fucked ALOT of people up, lol. Block eye, and either kittyhelper overhead or cat scratch grab was gonna get you. Plus a solid strange and Morrigan. Morrigan on bar assist with Felicia meter charge meant so much bar that kitty helper was almost ALWAYS out. Games are fun when you don't sweat/duplicate top tier 24/7. This gief is AWESOME. Lmao
I've been running a game club at the school I work at. Too games played? Soul Calibur (dreamcast), and MVC2 (PS3). Funny enough, I just started playing Zangief. Great timing for this video. 🤣
Geif is such a meta pick in this game cause your instincts are to take to the air. But he's like "gotcha!".
the god of the "dont act like u wont get command grabbed"
I saw him a few days ago and his Zangief is crazy, very entertaining to watch. Would you have a match with him?
I just have to apologize to you Justin. I thought I just stumbled on someone good at fighting games that made some pretty good content. I had no idea you are like the GOAT of EVO championships. Well done! Out here enjoying this guys content without having a clue lol oopsie.
Just watched this after watching your ft7 with Mugai. You were getting smoked lol what a great set
5:26 the exact moment he kills Psylocke looks godlike
9:11 "That was Brazy!" 😂😂😂
18:53 he buffered off the cr jab
Cool to see new ways to play old games
Zangief becomes Godgief in this player's hands.
Nah this Gief is godlike, I didn't even think grapplers worked in these types of games.
This mvc2 game is pretty wild
I have learned so much about Gief to help me out. Only issue is I love my low tiers and I can't use Jin so I need some low tier assists to help with that style.
i used to play Zangief and war machine in mvc1 won 2 torunys with that team. and zangief in 2 was fun cause no one played him but me and no one knew how to play vs him lol. i only zangief in sf6 now just got it 3 weeks ago havent played a street fighter since super sf2.
Don't let anyone lie to you about Gief in SF6. He has some dumbass setups if you're willing, so the love doesn't have to stop~
@@Jardonius he is the only reason i got sf6. i got it about 3 weeks ago just finished my placement game won them all, im diamond 1
The way Justin says Marvel vs Capcom 2 just kills me every time... he always eats the VERSUS annunciation 😂
Zangief is one of my favorite guys to use and he has an edge on the top tiers since they’re not used to his antics (love playing against sentinel). Love from my Russian mafia team: Zangief (ground assist on iron gief), Colossus, and Omega Red.
Best video in ages bro keep it upp
@11:30 EXCUSE ME?! THAT DMG! Justin it's time for another mvc2 tier list bro silver samurai and gief gotta go north
Yo Justin. Probably a dumb question, but which game were you better at: MVC2 or UMVC3???
It's actually offensive how good he is with Zangief lol.
A scary Zangief? In MvC2??? NANI?!?!?!?!?!
That was top tier content. Would love to see a game with silver samurai and bishamon and kaijin no soki....
he called an assist, while being hit already inside a birthday party.... so all 3 of his characters were on screen.
Thing with the grab assist is, if you are in block stun you cant block a thro assist.
That repulsor blast can OTG and then you can use lightning off Silver Samurai, Omega Reds X or the hail storm by Storm.
Can't wait for the Collection!
was giggling with you in the beginning, dude its crazy lol
My fav personality in the FG circuit, jwong.
15:05 was filthy 😮
Appreciate your tv recommendation when it comes to fgc
Seeing this Gief player just makes me wish ratios were still a thing.
Yeah found out about this guy awhile back, his Cheddar Gief is INSANE!
Repeating Aerial Slam to condition the opponent and when the opponent is scared he lands the Final Atomic Buster
It's scarier than the Potemkim jumpscare
that guy has some of the funniest mixups I've ever seen in a fighting game
So wait hold up.... The samurai ice buff stacks?!
15:20 😆
So nice of him to let Jin and Silver Samurai come along to watch him murder everything...
Give it another 20 years and every character in MVC2 will be considered top tier.
Props to this literal Zangief blender 👌🏽
If "Acting like you won't get command grabbed" was a person.
I honestly discovered this guy about a month ago and my friends laughed at me that Sanford can be played competitively in mvc2. When I showed them Mugai for the first time use zangief, jaws dropped needless to say. Now everyone is trying their hand with Zangief and to no avail like Mugai.
I forgot that move was a grapple because I only ever see if as a mobility tool
Wowww este zangief está a la par con el de strago e evilmaxdark