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I've got a really interesting one for you to look at. The other day I was watching Goodtimes Entertainment's 1998 movie "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer: The Movie". There's a song in the movie called "Show Me The Light" which is performed by Michael Lloyd & Debbie Lytton. Now I have a lot of CDs in my house of old bands & their music, & one of the CD's was a collection of songs from a 1970s band called Bread. From the first few chords of "Show Me The Light" I couldn't help but notice that it sounded exactly like Bread's song "Lost Without Your Love" which came out in 1977, 21 years before "Show Me The Light". The verse melodies of both songs also matched up perfectly.
The theme from that Black Eyed Peas song is actually from Dvořák New World Symphony, so it's ridiculous that some other group or producer is making money of it. I'm sadly surprised no one mentioned it so far.
Huey Lewis and Ray Parker Jr also signed an NDA as part of the settlement. When Huey started talking about the lawsuit years later, Ray sued him and won.
I always recommend my clients get an NDA for the NDA as well as for the original agreement. I remind my clients that as a result of this legal structure, they would be violating the agreements even if they said something like, "I cannot talk about my NDA."
Yes and he still can’t talk about it, which is weird to me because it’s his song and he got ripped of he should be able to say whatever he wants about. Idk just my thoughts I love Huey Lewis and the news!
I heard that there was a little more context to the whole Drug/Busters thing. Both songs have a similar '80s vibe which could've simply be written off as pure coincidence of the era, but supposedly Huey Lewis was working on the Ghostbusters soundtrack first then dropped out before Parker came on board, so Lewis believed that Parker & the movie studio copped some of his original ideas
4:33, this also happened in Spider-Man 2. Sam Raimi used some of Chris Young's music from Hellraiser II as temp music during the first reactor scene. He liked it so much that he asked Danny Elfman to essentially copy it, which incensed Elfman and caused them to fall out(amongst other things). Raimi then replaced him with Young for Spider-Man 3
According to the judge who ruled over that case, it is considered copying. We are a nation of laws, not people who think the law only applies to others and not to them.
Melodies need the same harmony background to sound similar. The springteen one sounds similar but it has a totally different mood. Also, the productions are totally different. Same with Ghostbusters/Lewis and Muzik.
I did an internship last year where we would analyse the defendent and claimant songs in lawsuits. It makes you realise the importance of musicologists for the cases, as many of the artists would try to sue for basic rhythmic patterns or very predictable melodies. The Marvin Gaye/Ed Sheeran lawsuit shows this, as Gaye's estate were trying to sue for using a basic chord pattern and having a similar feel. Although some songs are obviously copying others, I think that most of it is accidental copying by taking maybe a bit too much inspiration from the songs on your playlist.
you also can't forget how "I Was Made for Loving You" already has a chorus melody incredibly similar to the chorus section of Heroes & Villains by the Beach Boys; could also be a can of worms they didn't want to open
@coolguitargear Yeah I believe he played the whole thing. The bass line is a bit subdued and kind of buried in the mix but still kicks so much ass. And the ending is awesome (the I was made for loving you part hehe)
Here's an example of a song lifting from other song. Blur's "M.O.R." lifts it's call and response vocals and melody from David Bowie's "Boys Keep Swinging"
Another great video David. Pink Floyd’s Echoes and Lloyd Webber’s main Phantom of the Opera theme is a classic example. Don’t think you’ve covered it before.
The obvious ultimate solution to all of this is to have lawyers write music and then they can just sue each other. The music would suck, but not much more than what we're currently getting.
Most of are not trying to plagiarize someone else work and the song just happens to have a similar progression , very few songwriters plagiarize others music with willful intent as we pride our selves in our creative abilities , its mostly musicians who are not songwriters that do such things as they lack the creative albitites , as songwriting is a very rare talent , very few musicians write their own songs , they come to people like me looking for songs and if they cant find something in their desperation they plagiarize something thinking if they add few licks in certain places no one will notice
I'm old so my 2 songs are very dated, but I always thought that a Peter, Paul and Mary song...Stewball the Racehorse and John Lennon's Happy Christmas (War is over) sounded similar.... we are talking 60s early 70s 😊
The radio show I’m Sorry I Haven’t a Clue always interests me about music similarities because of their “One Song to the Tune of Another” section. I mean, if you can drop the lyrics from Ghostbusters directly into the melody from Greensleeves, then you start to wonder if there’s a similarity between the songs that isn’t obvious at first. My favourite is the lyrics from a Whiter Shade of Pale to the melody of The Muppet Show theme. Fits perfectly!
There is a similarity: the meter. The vast majority of all lyrics ever written in English fall into one of several popular hymn meters, whether the poet was intending that or not. Greensleeves represents by far the most common of those meters. If a song is in standard spoken English, there is still a very good chance it will fit one of these meters although this is becoming less true for American songs with the rise of the singer-songwriter and thus American colloqualisms being used in lyrics. AAVE is also much more common in song lyrics with the rise of R&B, which generally doesn't fall into these standard hymn meters, but often the lyricist will be intentionally or unconsciously referencing a certain spiritual or other hymn popular in Black churches. This can even apply to a lot of poetry that wasn't intended to be sung: again, poets often use these meters without being aware of it.
Both "I love it" by Icona Pop and "Really don't care" by Demi Lovato were written by Swedish songwriters that know each other quite well. Could be that the writers of the Lovato song simply borrowed the hook, with consent from the writers of "I love it", or maybe it happened more subconsciously 'cause they've been working together on other projects.
There is a parody song based on "I love it" called "I ship it" (referring to members of fandoms "shipping" characters from TV shows, whether there is a logical reason for the 'shipping' or not.) It's hilarious!
Demi Levato's "Really Don't Care" also borrows from Pat Benatar's "Shadows Of The Night". The line "And even when the stars and moon collide" in RDC sounds very similar to the line "We're running with the shadows of the night." in SOTN.
Really loved the explanation of the use of place-holder music in movies. That is something that I knew happened, but it never occurred to me the effect it would have on the composer. The one example I can think of is for the main theme to Star Trek VI. In that case I know that the composer, Cliff Eidleman was specifically told by the director Nicholas Meyer to come up with something that sounded like Stravisky's introduction to The Firebird.... which he did.
The thing about the Demi Lovato song is that they can’t really tell it’s copying the other one because in that genre of music everything sounds so similar that they can’t tell, and most listeners don’t care anyway, as long as they can dance to it.
Also, who would take an "artist" seriously after they claimed that they invented a two-tone "melody". It's something kids play on the piano in kindergarden.
Pretty much. If we can assemble a list of every pop (and orchestral) melody ever written, almost any melody you can think of will have some similarities with some melody already written. There's so much music out there and only so many pitches and rhythms that are familiar in Western music, there's bound to be countless intersections. Like the Dvorak mentioned above with both the My Humps and I Need A Freak. Hell, I've written melodies in my bedroom when I was a kid only to find months or years later something almost note-for-note similar show up on the radio. Pretty sure just a coincidence. There's only so many melodies that can be written, especially in the tight constraints of Western pop music.
The solution is to find an old song that has an expired copyright. Then, when you get sued by the writer of a more recent, still copyrighted song, you have a valid defense: "I didn't plagiarize you, I plagiarized the same guy you plagiarized."
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but I've heard the term "demo love" for cases when a director's "temp music" becomes the only piece of music they want to use and then, for whatever reason, they can't and so end up using something very similar.
In the end, we're only talking about walking up and down the first five notes of the minor scale. Not particularly unusual. Any number of people could stumble across that by accident.
Ghostbusters also borrowed heavily from the Bar Kays song 'Soul Finger' from 1967 even down to the "Ghost Busters" chant being a replica of the "Soul Finger" chant
I was gonna post the same thing. I remember when Ghostbusters came out, and running back to my Atlantic Records compilation to see if I was hearing things.
Ray Parker Jr said that he got the idea of the song because he was kept awake not knowing what theme to write for "Ghostbusters" when he saw an ad which said "Who you gonna call" do decided to do the song like a TV jingle. It makes me wonder if he got the song from that and if that ad used music similar to "I Want A New Drug".
TV Series _The Ghost Busters (1975)_ has music, which sounds very similar to the famous theme song from the movie _Ghost Busters (1984)._ The lyrics of the 1975 version go: *Who you're gonna call? GHOSTBUSTERS!* To see and hear a snippet of that, search TH-cam channel _RedLetterMedia_ for: _Half in the Bag Episode 112: Ghostbusters (2016),_ time stamp 43m 04s (direct links are often auto-censored). _Soul Finger (1967)_ does seem to have that famous rhythm ("did-did" "di-di-di" "diiid diiid") and (rhytmically) familiar sounding shouting in the chorus. So, perhaps that specific song + all that 1975's ghost stuff form the original inspiration/source (music & lyrics). Then again, perhaps this chain consists of dozens of other songs. Each less and less similar to the super famous 1984 Ghost Busters theme, which was "written by Ray Parker Jr." Until at some point, the difference might get way too big, for direct comparison (opera, classical, jazz, lullaby, mediaval folk song...). PS. According to WikiPedia, Ghost Busters was the working title of the film _Spook Busters (1946)._ I haven't seen it. So, perhaps only that title, and perhaps just few parts of the general theme (group of guys start a spooky business), are only similarities worth mentioning?
A direct link (unless auto-censored...) to the time stamp of 43m 04s of RedLetterMedia's video called _Half in the Bag Episode 112: Ghostbusters (2016):_ th-cam.com/video/HUEKreyTkvA/w-d-xo.html
My first thought for the "I need a freak" riff, was Snoop Dogg's "Bring it on", where the vocals and melody in the beginning, lift directly from this as well.
I was a Radio DJ when the first three records mentioned here were released, and had these same thoughts at the time! David, I’m guessing that you compose music. Do you find it difficult to write a melody or a chord pattern and not feel that you may have heard it somewhere before, since every possible combination of the 12-tone musical scale we use had already been used sometimes in the last several hundred years?
Genuine??? Come on. Stevens' is one of the most famous songs of the last 50 years. He knew he copied it, and then what? Simply forgot? The whole team behind just thought they could get away with that? It's a classic case of 'let's do it and hope we don't get caught, and if we do, just play the desperate, ashamed big fan part who apologises'.
@@damianoakes2592 Exactly. Play dumb since you've been caught red-handed, and let us try and fix this, while spiking up our fees so you'll learn the next time ;)
There has been so much talk about the Ray Parker, Jr./Huey Lewis thing over the years, yet so few ever mention M's Pop Muzik in that discussion. I'm glad you hit upon it, cos I had the link to the video in the chamber and ready to go if you didn't.
Another informative and entertaining video, Mr Bennett, for which many thanks. Isn't it becoming inevitable that melodies which appeal to the ear and/or don't sound too dissonant are increasingly likely to resemble earlier melodies, today? The Hurrian Hymn was written over 3,500 years ago. Repetition is impossible to avoid after so long a time.
I'm glad you mentioned Pop Muzik. Rite of Spring sounds like Twilight Zone ot the Outer Limits. The last example is so bland I'm surprised that this hasn't been copied many times.
When I first heard the beginning of 'Do You Believe in Love' by Huey Lewis I thought it was a cover of 'Sweet Talkin' Woman by ELO. Even the lyrics were very similar.
By the way - give a listen to "Call Me" by Blondie released in August 1979 - a couple of months after KISS' "I was born for loving you". Much as I despise KISS, it seems that not only Springsteen lifted the tune - although the Blondie resemblance is not quite as strong. EDIT - also the Black-Eyed Peas/I Need a Freak tune is clearly taken from a famous classical theme. I can't remember the composer - Beethoven perhaps? Oh and Demi Levato/Icona Pop ripped off the "One Note Samba" ( joke).
3:55 Same thing with Titanic! James Cameron wanted Enya to do the soundtrack, but she refused. He was using her music as temp music, so that's why Southampton (Titanic) sounds like Book of Days (Enya), for instance.
Enya didn’t care about James Cameron using her music!! She was so busy behind the scenes of getting CELTIC WOMAN established that letting James Cameron use her music actually worked to her advantage!!
We're all bombarded with info nowadays. Sometimes we hear a tune- and can't get it out of our heads. The Beatles spent much time with Donovan. Though I don't know what came first, the similarities in melody to John's Norwegian Wood and Donovan's Yellow is the Color (of my true love's hair) isn't lost on me.
I've got a really interesting one. The other day I was watching Goodtimes Entertainment's 1998 movie "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer: The Movie". There's a song in the movie called "Show Me The Light" which is performed by Michael Lloyd & Debbie Lytton. Now I have a lot of CDs in my house of old bands & their music, & one of the CD's was a collection of songs from a 1970s band called Bread. From the first few chords of "Show Me The Light" I couldn't help but notice that it sounded exactly like Bread's song "Lost Without Your Love" which came out in 1977, 21 years before "Show Me The Light". The verse melodies of both songs also matched up perfectly.
On the temp track front, you might want to look at the Craig Safan track "Confrontation" from the soundtrack to Michael Mann's film THIEF. Mann had temp tracked the finale of the film to "Comfortably Numb" while he was editing. Tangerine Dream was doing the music, and he asked them to write something using the Pink Floyd song as a guide, but he didn't like what they came up with. So her brought in Safan instead, who came up with something that's recognizable when you know what it was based on, but not enough so that Pink Floyd would have noticed. Not to my knowledge, anyway.
Post Toastee by Tommy Bolin and Cocaine by JJ Cale. Both released the same year, but not sure which one came first. Of course, both sound like they could have come from Cream's Sunshine of You Love. I have written stuff that I thought was original, only to find out later that it sounds like something else that it is possible I could have heard on the radio sometime in the past. However, I have also written things that sound like something else, only to learn that mine came first (but there was no way anyone could have ripped it off). In other words, coincidences happen.
You should do a video on Lou Reed. I have been listening to his work and realized that he is a lot more brilliant than I earlier considered, having been caught up in his extreme lifestyle instead of his music. For instance, A Perfect Day has brilliant piano work, which reminds me of another song, but I cannot say what.🤦
I know you cover The Beatles extensively, David. Have you done one on the similarities between "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" and "Why Don't You Get a Job?" by The Offspring? When I heard it on the radio in 1999 it was pretty obvious. I thought they must have done it on purpose, sort of like a parody, but maybe not. Anyway, I really like your channel. I learn a great deal about music from you!
I think a few songs off the Americana album are in part meant to be twisted takes on big hits from the past. "She's Got Issues" seems to be inspired by "Hold on Loosely" by .38 Special for example.
Great video, not sure if you've already covered it, but , Alan Parson's Project "Eye in the Sky" seems to have had the chorus "ripped off' by Lady Antebellum's hit "I need you now" . Something for a future video if you haven't already. Keep up the great work.
Today I was listening to Simon and Garfunkel A Hazy Shade of Winter and the beginning of the guitar chord progression reminded me totally of pretty woman from roy orbison
On the Beach Boys Smile deluxe boxset, there is one track that has the chorus sound exactly like the chorus for I Was Made For Loving You. The Beach Boys song was recorded 12 years before the Kiss song.
I've got a few more that were missed out on: 1) The instrumental to "My Baby Loves Me" by Martina McBride sounds strangely similar to that of "Born In The USA" by Bruce Springsteen 2) The opening chords and chord progression of "Show Me The Light" by Michael Lloyd and Debbie Lytton sounds exactly like those from "Lost Without Your Love" by Bread 3) "Tennessee Whiskey" by Chris Stapleton sounds exactly the same as "I'd Rather Go Blind" by Etta James
I absolutely love these music comparison videos, and I LOVE music ❤ I have written many titles of songs that have the same riff or sound similar but I’m not musically trained and can’t always pinpoint what the likeness is. I’m a bit of a perfectionist so I Google the songs, see who made it first then write it down. I love these videos as they’re songs I hadn’t realised sound the same, there must be so many! Thank you ❤
Hey I just watched your video on Pianote, but I was subed way before that video. Nice work man, you explain music theory in a way that is understood easily.
2:19 I've read that Huey Lewis was first commisioned the main theme for Ghostbusters; but after initial rehearsal he dropped to compose and perform the soundtrack of Back To The Future; then Ghostbusters producers made Ray Parker Jr very clear they wanted the same beat and the result is very similar
The Kylie/Kaiser Chiefs example is an interesting one, as while Ricky Wilson might be friendly with Kylie, the rest of the band (who co-wrote the song and don't have Ricky's TV and radio career) might be tempted by the chance of some income. Especially as it wasn't as Kylie wrote Padam Padam anyway, so the court case wouldn't be against her.
@@ConceptJunkie It is not plagiarism if it is not illegal, plagiarism is a legal term. But you're right for everything else. The fact that the Black Eyed Peas didn't use this argument to defend them is kinda suspicious btw.
@@Augfordpdoggie Maybe... that is something everybody has his own opinion on. All I know is that in music in general, every artist have been inspired by another one... there is a gap between inspiration and simple copy so I am not mad when I here some talented band use a chord progression or melody from another artist if they manage to make something different with it. I mean even Bethoven's Ode to Joy is based on Mozart's Misericordias Domini
I saw a mash-up of that Kiss song with and Earth Wind and Fire song "Boogie Wonderland," it's hilarious. I thought they could have added Fleetwood Mac's song "Rhiannon." I keep hearing mash-ups in my head, like today I heard an Ed Sheeran song, Taylor Swift's song, "Cruel Summer," and "Unstoppable" by SIA
There is an early 2000 song by the Mexican alternative rock band Jumbo called Cada Vez Que Me Voy which sounds quite similar to Congregation by Foo Fighters which came out in 2014. Either Grohl was listening to some under mexican indie at the time, or they both ripped off something else... But what was it?
Another example from the golden 80s: Bon Jovi (You give love a bad name, 1986) and Bonnie Tyler (If you were a woman and I was a man, 1986). Both stole the refrain melody from Laura Branigans unforgettable "The Lucky One" fom 1984.
The fact he could write a song and record it, mix it, etc. and at no point did anyone in the band or the production team say, "Er, hang on a minute, isn't this a Cat Stevens' son?" I Love It/Really Don't Care don't have a melody. They're, to all intents and purposes, virtually monotonic.
0:57 to 1:24 and 1:31 to 2:00 from Muse's Knights of Cydonia sounds on purpose alot like Tornadoes' song Telstar. Matthew Bellamy (lead vocalist, guitarist, pianist, and songwriter of Muse) is the son of George Bellamy; the guitarist of The Tornadoes.
Ray Parker (& Raydio) did this all the time: "All In The Way You Get Down" is in the vein of Michel Jacksons "Off The Wall", "Until The Morning Comes" is more than a nod to "Lost In Music" by Sister Sledge
1. The Beach Boys - Surfin USA is a copy of Chuck Berry- Sweet Little Sixteen. They settled somehow and Berry is always credited as writer when Surfin USA is put on a record. Brian WIlson said if I remembger correct, it should have been an hommage to Chuck Berry. 2. Stand-in Soundtrack could be the old Mortal Kombat Movie Theme Song ("Moooortal Kombaat") which is inspired by many eurodance-songs but one stands out clearly: 2 Unlimited -Twilight Zone.
Sweet child of mine and Australian Crawl's Unpublished Critics. Although Gunners only used the chord progressions (and rearranged the order) but as Ed Sheeran recently proved - you can't copyright a chord progression so technically not a copy which is probably why there has never been a lawsuit, but they definitely used it.. Australian Crawl were signed by Geffen Records in the early 80's.
There’s been two songs I’ve noticed recently that I haven’t seen talked about yet. The One Republic song called Runaway is very similar to Rosanna by Toto. The Taylor Swift song Karma is extremely similar to Music Is My Hot Hot Sex by CSS
I've got a few more to add on: 1) The instrumental to "My Baby Loves Me" by Martina McBride sounds strangely similar to that of "Born In The USA" by Bruce Springsteen 2) The opening chords and chord progression of "Show Me The Light" by Michael Lloyd and Debbie Litton sounds exactly like those from "Lost Without Your Love" by Bread 3) "Tennessee Whiskey" by Chris Stapleton sounds exactly the same as "I'd Rather Go Blind" by Etta James
Not being familiar with Kiss, the first thing that went through my head when you played "Outlaw Pete" was The Rolling Stones' "Let's Spend the Night Together."
I have a few more for you. 1) The instrumental to "My Baby Loves Me" by Martina McBride sounds strangely similar to that of "Born In The USA" by Bruce Springsteen 2) The opening chords and chord progression of "Show Me The Light" by Michael Lloyd and Debbie Litton sounds exactly like those from "Lost Without Your Love" by Bread 3) "Tennessee Whiskey" by Chris Stapleton sounds exactly the same as "I'd Rather Go Blind" by Etta James
The Morrissey song Every Day is Like Sunday is awfully similar in melody (and chords) to Love You by Primal Scream (Primal Scream is often derided as one long "influence," but to me this specific example seems very clear, and I've never seen it commented on). LY was being played live by Primal Scream as early as 1985, and released in 1987 while EDILS was written after/as the Smiths broke up in 1987 at the earliest, and not released until 1988.
There's a part about Demi Levato's "Really Don't Care" that you forgot to mention. While it does lift mostly from Icona Pop's "I Love It", it's not the only song that "Really Don't Care" borrows from. If you listen to the line "And even when the stars and moon collide", you'd notice that it sounds very similar to "Shadows of the Night" by Pat Benatar, specifically the line "We're running with the shadows of the night."
When you were going on about Temp music used in like movies and stuff it reminds me of the fact that the song Hot Stuff by Donna Summer was used as temp music in the movie musical Fame for the big scene where they all dance in the street and stuff but that was because the actual song they were going to use the title song of the movie was still incomplete and being written at the time but the film crew needed to film that scene that day because they only had access to that space to film for that day so they used Hot Stuff as a place filler because the dancers needed a song to dance to for that scene to work. Then once the song was complete and finished they just overlayed it over the scene and took out Hot Stuff for the actual film version.
I found that last example really interesting. I know the Icona Pop track well, so it was almost eerie to hear something that sounds something so similar not just in melody (or, let's be honest, lack thereof) but also in instrumentation.
Demi Levato's "Really Don't Care" also borrows from Pat Benatar's "Shadows Of The Night". The line "And even when the stars and moon collide" in RDC sounds very similar to the line "We're running with the shadows of the night." in SOTN.
There is a very strong resemblance in the verses of "3 small words" from Josie and the pussycats and "Another World" from Japanese singer Gackt. The choruses are different, though. As far as I know, there was never any lawsuit.
Joe Jackson's "I'm the Man" The Romantics, "What I like about you" And of course Eddie and the Cruisers (Even though they're fictional) using the same chords in "On the Dark Side". In a cover band, it makes for a loooooong medley of E, A and D. Oops. Forgot John Mellencamp's "R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A." Genuine rip-offs from one to the next, but it doesn't stop *any* of them from being fun!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've heard "Padam, padam" and "Everyday I love you less and less" many times but somehow never noticed the similarity. I'd say they're different enough and the plagiarism lawsuit wouldn't hold.
I guess you could make a lawsuit work if you really wanted to; Adam Neely had a vid about this a while ago. Basicly, if it "kinda feels like a similar vibe" -> you can sue and maybe settle or win. Or just "it has notes that go up, hen down" -> you can also sue, even if the "vibe" is different. In short, most judges don't know much about music but still have to make a decision and with suggestive phrasing and framing, you can make these types of lawsuits work if you have the money and patience. It's sad :(
Great clip, David. Here's my submission for a "rip-off" song: "Mockingbird" by Grant Lee Buffalo (1990s) is clearly taken from "Goodbye Stranger" by Supertramp (1970s), all the way down to the falsetto chorus.
my favourite example is Golden Skans by Klaxons and Hung Up by Madonna, it's not an exact rip off but the similarities (even mentioned by Klaxons) are quite funny
Speaking of that Demi Lovato song, has anyone else noticed that the chorus of "Really Don't Care" feels a _lot_ like the chorus of "Shadows of the Night" by Pat Benatar? I'm surprised there wasn't a lawsuit involved in that. Great video. Another one I'd recommend is "Heartbeat Song" by Kelly Clarkson, which IMO is super similar to "The Middle" by Jimmy Eat World, both in its verses and chorus.
I noticed that too! Also here are few that I recommended too: 1) The instrumental to "My Baby Loves Me" by Martina McBride sounds strangely similar to that of "Born In The USA" by Bruce Springsteen 2) The opening chords and chord progression of "Show Me The Light" by Michael Lloyd and Debbie Litton sounds exactly like those from "Lost Without Your Love" by Bread 3) "Tennessee Whiskey" by Chris Stapleton sounds exactly the same as "I'd Rather Go Blind" by Etta James
Hoping if you make another one of these that you talk about Sum41's No Reason and Theres No Solution (both from the album Chuck, 2004), that are very blatantly "inspired" by One Step Closer, Crawling, and In The End (all from Hybrid Theory, 2000) by Linkin Park. No Reason is the most blatant, and is the One Step Closer rip. I do really like the two Sum41 songs, but I also really like Linkin Park, and it jumped out at me SO quickly lmao
The most obvious songs that spring to mind: The hook/title lines from Electric Light Orchestra (Jeff Lynne) "Can't Get It Out of My Head" and Kylie Minogue (Cathy Dennis / Rob Davis) "I Can't Get You Out of My Head". Even the lyrics are almost identical.
Suggestions: * "Footlose" by Kenny Loggins & "All Right Now" by Free * "Feel this Moment" by Pitbull/Christina Aguilera & "Take On Me" by A-Ha * "Taj Mahal" by Jorge Ben & "Do You Think I'm Sexy" by Rod Stewart * "Misirlou" by Dick Dale & "Pump it" by The Black Eyed Peas * "The Time of my Life" by Bill Medley/Jennifer Warnes & "The Time" by The Black Eyed Peas
I'll add a few more: - "My Baby Loves Me" by Martina McBride vs. "Born In The USA" by Bruce Springsteen - "Tennessee Whiskey" by Chris Stapleton vs. "I'd Rather Go Blind" by Etta James - "Show Me The Light (From the soundtrack of "Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer: The Movie")" by Michael Lloyd ft. Debbie Lytton vs. "Lost Without Your Love" by Bread
Thanks for bringing up Pop Muzik. It boggles my mind that almost no one ever talks about how I Want a New Drug ripped that off. I've been saying it for decades.
In regards to KISS, they admitted that "Deuce" was inspired by The Rolling Stones "Bitch". I'd like to see a breakdown of both songs, should it be something that you'd be interested at looking into.
I am a Classic Rock DJ at an FM station and over the years , while playing requests , i hear a lot of songs vaguely similar and others way too similar! I saved up a list of these songs for 8 years .. but many YT channels that feature these " rip-off" songs has still not mentioned a lot of these songs i compiled. One thing is sure , the "Sampling epidemic" in the music industry is horrendous!!
Hot fun in the summer time (I think the bridge or chorus) vs Must be some misunderstanding by Phil collins? What do you thing? the riff sounds the same
@@howamidriving27 Super ruthless. Like, you've got a lawsuit on your hands AND a sick burn. I wish I could approach everything in my life with a similar level of... Selective loathing
The "I Need a Freak" vs. "My Humps" one is reminding me of something else but I can't think what that is and it's bugging me. Closest an online search turned up was Brahms' Quartet for piano & strings, Opus 60, which *might* have been what I was thinking of because I do listen to a lot of classical music but the first 2 pitches are different and I'm not convinced that I was remembering something classical in this case.
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📌 4:16 I muddled my Russian composers and said “Tchaikovsky” when I meant “Stravinsky”! Sorry for any confusion 😅😅
That's funny becayse I heard "Stravinsky"...
Well, Thats because Stravinsky was plagiarizing Tchaikovsky's name...
I've got a really interesting one for you to look at. The other day I was watching Goodtimes Entertainment's 1998 movie "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer: The Movie". There's a song in the movie called "Show Me The Light" which is performed by Michael Lloyd & Debbie Lytton. Now I have a lot of CDs in my house of old bands & their music, & one of the CD's was a collection of songs from a 1970s band called Bread. From the first few chords of "Show Me The Light" I couldn't help but notice that it sounded exactly like Bread's song "Lost Without Your Love" which came out in 1977, 21 years before "Show Me The Light". The verse melodies of both songs also matched up perfectly.
I think Huey Lewis was asked to do a song for the Ghostbusters' soundtrack and he turned it down. That may have started it.
The theme from that Black Eyed Peas song is actually from Dvořák New World Symphony, so it's ridiculous that some other group or producer is making money of it. I'm sadly surprised no one mentioned it so far.
I noticed that too, it is one of my favorite orchestral pieces currently.
I was about to post this. Beginning of the 4th movement
I thought the same thing
i thought the same
I wasn't thinking the same, but I just want to join this "love in" as it seems so wholesome.
I need more pitchshifted Kiss. It makes Kiss sounds like what they look like.
What you need is Earth, Kiss, and Fire - "I Was Made for Boogie Wonderland" by Bill McClintock.
Lip-syncing live ? (Yes, I know… I'm eeeeeevil…)
Huey Lewis and Ray Parker Jr also signed an NDA as part of the settlement. When Huey started talking about the lawsuit years later, Ray sued him and won.
I always recommend my clients get an NDA for the NDA as well as for the original agreement. I remind my clients that as a result of this legal structure, they would be violating the agreements even if they said something like, "I cannot talk about my NDA."
Yes and he still can’t talk about it, which is weird to me because it’s his song and he got ripped of he should be able to say whatever he wants about. Idk just my thoughts I love Huey Lewis and the news!
And M sued them both for similarities to “Pop Muzik”.
I heard that there was a little more context to the whole Drug/Busters thing. Both songs have a similar '80s vibe which could've simply be written off as pure coincidence of the era, but supposedly Huey Lewis was working on the Ghostbusters soundtrack first then dropped out before Parker came on board, so Lewis believed that Parker & the movie studio copped some of his original ideas
@Tarantulisimo it was actually Soul Fingers by the Bar Kays that was the real inspiration. Once the chrus hit all doubt is removed.
David repping the First Of October shirt makes me so happy
It's so close...
I just noticed! Same here!
Gotta love Gene Simmon's arbitrary reasoning for who he sues and doesn't sue...
Tbh I got the vibe from that quote that he might have been making a deadpan quip that people took seriously
@@blunderr6113I don't think so. Simmons is well known for being an asshole
I got lots of reasons to love Gene
@@blunderr6113 I don’t think so. I just think they like and respect the Boss.
Might also be because Paul Stanley ripped off 4th of July (Sandy) when he wrote Shandi :)
4:33, this also happened in Spider-Man 2. Sam Raimi used some of Chris Young's music from Hellraiser II as temp music during the first reactor scene. He liked it so much that he asked Danny Elfman to essentially copy it, which incensed Elfman and caused them to fall out(amongst other things). Raimi then replaced him with Young for Spider-Man 3
Honestly melodies that are just going up and down a scale should not be considered copying
Which melody was going up and down a scale? Just curious.
According to the judge who ruled over that case, it is considered copying. We are a nation of laws, not people who think the law only applies to others and not to them.
or melodies that are only 2 notes--lookin' at you Lovato & Icona
@@rayjr62tell me why a short 2-bar sequence should be protected, especially 40+ years after it was released
Melodies need the same harmony background to sound similar. The springteen one sounds similar but it has a totally different mood. Also, the productions are totally different. Same with Ghostbusters/Lewis and Muzik.
I did an internship last year where we would analyse the defendent and claimant songs in lawsuits. It makes you realise the importance of musicologists for the cases, as many of the artists would try to sue for basic rhythmic patterns or very predictable melodies. The Marvin Gaye/Ed Sheeran lawsuit shows this, as Gaye's estate were trying to sue for using a basic chord pattern and having a similar feel.
Although some songs are obviously copying others, I think that most of it is accidental copying by taking maybe a bit too much inspiration from the songs on your playlist.
you also can't forget how "I Was Made for Loving You" already has a chorus melody incredibly similar to the chorus section of Heroes & Villains by the Beach Boys; could also be a can of worms they didn't want to open
Wow, I never thought of that! It really does
That's a bit of a stretch...
@coolguitargear Oh, if you mean Pigs then I think I know what you mean
@coolguitargear Pigs has probably one of the funkiest Floyd basslines and I just recently found out that it's actually Gilmour playing the bass
@coolguitargear Yeah I believe he played the whole thing. The bass line is a bit subdued and kind of buried in the mix but still kicks so much ass. And the ending is awesome (the I was made for loving you part hehe)
Here's an example of a song lifting from other song. Blur's "M.O.R." lifts it's call and response vocals and melody from David Bowie's "Boys Keep Swinging"
Gorillaz rip off Spacer too
Don't forget Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby ripping off Under Pressure by David Bowie and Queen.
@@9Tailsfan Well, it's a hip hop sample
The Rite Of Spring was composed by Stravinsky not Tchaikovsky.
Stravinsky actually ripped off Tchaikovsky by copying his piece and title verbatim.
@@mebammeNever knew that ! I can’t hear it though .
@@mebammeOk , I found a small bassoon part in Figaro .
@@shereesmazik5030 I believe it's a joke
It’s correct on screen in the lower left.
Another great video David. Pink Floyd’s Echoes and Lloyd Webber’s main Phantom of the Opera theme is a classic example. Don’t think you’ve covered it before.
I think it’s just a chromatic walkdown.
and the phantom of the opera itself is a Bach-resurrection...
It is just a chromatic run and whether it’s genuine plagiarism or just similar ideas is a subject of some debate.
Pink Floyd does NOT own the building blocks of music (chromatic scale and major/minor chord relationships). Sorry.
No way is that an example of plagiarism.
The obvious ultimate solution to all of this is to have lawyers write music and then they can just sue each other. The music would suck, but not much more than what we're currently getting.
Derrrrrrrr
This should be a thing. Let the lawyers duel it out. And we can go live in our own worlds with real music and watch them on reality TV
ROTFFLMFAO!
Most of are not trying to plagiarize someone else work and the song just happens to have a similar progression , very few songwriters plagiarize others music with willful intent as we pride our selves in our creative abilities , its mostly musicians who are not songwriters that do such things as they lack the creative albitites , as songwriting is a very rare talent , very few musicians write their own songs , they come to people like me looking for songs and if they cant find something in their desperation they plagiarize something thinking if they add few licks in certain places no one will notice
My band used to play “Cherry Cherry”, “Rockin’ in The USA” and “What I Like About You” as a medley because they’re essentially all the same song.
I'm old so my 2 songs are very dated, but I always thought that a Peter, Paul and Mary song...Stewball the Racehorse and John Lennon's Happy Christmas (War is over) sounded similar.... we are talking 60s early 70s 😊
They sound the exact same
Damn! You're right.
Tchaikovsky writing Rite of Spring would have been very interesting
The radio show I’m Sorry I Haven’t a Clue always interests me about music similarities because of their “One Song to the Tune of Another” section. I mean, if you can drop the lyrics from Ghostbusters directly into the melody from Greensleeves, then you start to wonder if there’s a similarity between the songs that isn’t obvious at first.
My favourite is the lyrics from a Whiter Shade of Pale to the melody of The Muppet Show theme. Fits perfectly!
Good show
There is a similarity: the meter. The vast majority of all lyrics ever written in English fall into one of several popular hymn meters, whether the poet was intending that or not. Greensleeves represents by far the most common of those meters. If a song is in standard spoken English, there is still a very good chance it will fit one of these meters although this is becoming less true for American songs with the rise of the singer-songwriter and thus American colloqualisms being used in lyrics. AAVE is also much more common in song lyrics with the rise of R&B, which generally doesn't fall into these standard hymn meters, but often the lyricist will be intentionally or unconsciously referencing a certain spiritual or other hymn popular in Black churches. This can even apply to a lot of poetry that wasn't intended to be sung: again, poets often use these meters without being aware of it.
Both "I love it" by Icona Pop and "Really don't care" by Demi Lovato were written by Swedish songwriters that know each other quite well. Could be that the writers of the Lovato song simply borrowed the hook, with consent from the writers of "I love it", or maybe it happened more subconsciously 'cause they've been working together on other projects.
There is a parody song based on "I love it" called "I ship it"
(referring to members of fandoms "shipping" characters from TV shows, whether there is a logical reason for the 'shipping' or not.)
It's hilarious!
Demi Levato's "Really Don't Care" also borrows from Pat Benatar's "Shadows Of The Night". The line "And even when the stars and moon collide" in RDC sounds very similar to the line "We're running with the shadows of the night." in SOTN.
Really loved the explanation of the use of place-holder music in movies. That is something that I knew happened, but it never occurred to me the effect it would have on the composer. The one example I can think of is for the main theme to Star Trek VI. In that case I know that the composer, Cliff Eidleman was specifically told by the director Nicholas Meyer to come up with something that sounded like Stravisky's introduction to The Firebird.... which he did.
The thing about the Demi Lovato song is that they can’t really tell it’s copying the other one because in that genre of music everything sounds so similar that they can’t tell, and most listeners don’t care anyway, as long as they can dance to it.
Similar, yes, but that was pretty close to identical. Much closer than the other examples.
Yeah, my reaction was "Why would you rip off such an awful song?"
Also, who would take an "artist" seriously after they claimed that they invented a two-tone "melody". It's something kids play on the piano in kindergarden.
l@@alfaDude156 literally the worst argument ever made against pop music you absolute philistine
I get the rythmic similarilty ... utltra basic though it is... but how is 2 notes a melody ?!?
At some point, it will be impossible to write any simple melody without plagiarizing 50 songs.
Pretty much. If we can assemble a list of every pop (and orchestral) melody ever written, almost any melody you can think of will have some similarities with some melody already written. There's so much music out there and only so many pitches and rhythms that are familiar in Western music, there's bound to be countless intersections. Like the Dvorak mentioned above with both the My Humps and I Need A Freak. Hell, I've written melodies in my bedroom when I was a kid only to find months or years later something almost note-for-note similar show up on the radio. Pretty sure just a coincidence. There's only so many melodies that can be written, especially in the tight constraints of Western pop music.
The solution is to find an old song that has an expired copyright. Then, when you get sued by the writer of a more recent, still copyrighted song, you have a valid defense: "I didn't plagiarize you, I plagiarized the same guy you plagiarized."
Exactly.. How many 3 chord Rock songs have the same progression??
Its much ado about nothing
Just make sure your song isn't a hit, and no one will care.
just play in 5 and 7 and youre fine
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but I've heard the term "demo love" for cases when a director's "temp music" becomes the only piece of music they want to use and then, for whatever reason, they can't and so end up using something very similar.
The Springsteen/KISS melodies also sound strikingly similar to Fleetwood Mac's Rhiannon and Blondie's Call Me. 😉
I thought of Call Me when I heard the song!
In the end, we're only talking about walking up and down the first five notes of the minor scale. Not particularly unusual. Any number of people could stumble across that by accident.
Ghostbusters also borrowed heavily from the Bar Kays song 'Soul Finger' from 1967 even down to the "Ghost Busters" chant being a replica of the "Soul Finger" chant
I was gonna post the same thing. I remember when Ghostbusters came out, and running back to my Atlantic Records compilation to see if I was hearing things.
Ray Parker Jr said that he got the idea of the song because he was kept awake not knowing what theme to write for "Ghostbusters" when he saw an ad which said "Who you gonna call" do decided to do the song like a TV jingle.
It makes me wonder if he got the song from that and if that ad used music similar to "I Want A New Drug".
TV Series _The Ghost Busters (1975)_ has music, which sounds very similar to the famous theme song from the movie _Ghost Busters (1984)._ The lyrics of the 1975 version go: *Who you're gonna call? GHOSTBUSTERS!*
To see and hear a snippet of that, search TH-cam channel _RedLetterMedia_ for: _Half in the Bag Episode 112: Ghostbusters (2016),_ time stamp 43m 04s (direct links are often auto-censored).
_Soul Finger (1967)_ does seem to have that famous rhythm ("did-did" "di-di-di" "diiid diiid") and (rhytmically) familiar sounding shouting in the chorus.
So, perhaps that specific song + all that 1975's ghost stuff form the original inspiration/source (music & lyrics). Then again, perhaps this chain consists of dozens of other songs. Each less and less similar to the super famous 1984 Ghost Busters theme, which was "written by Ray Parker Jr."
Until at some point, the difference might get way too big, for direct comparison (opera, classical, jazz, lullaby, mediaval folk song...).
PS.
According to WikiPedia, Ghost Busters was the working title of the film _Spook Busters (1946)._ I haven't seen it. So, perhaps only that title, and perhaps just few parts of the general theme (group of guys start a spooky business), are only similarities worth mentioning?
A direct link (unless auto-censored...) to the time stamp of 43m 04s of RedLetterMedia's video called _Half in the Bag Episode 112: Ghostbusters (2016):_ th-cam.com/video/HUEKreyTkvA/w-d-xo.html
My first thought for the "I need a freak" riff, was Snoop Dogg's "Bring it on", where the vocals and melody in the beginning, lift directly from this as well.
I was a Radio DJ when the first three records mentioned here were released, and had these same thoughts at the time! David, I’m guessing that you compose music. Do you find it difficult to write a melody or a chord pattern and not feel that you may have heard it somewhere before, since every possible combination of the 12-tone musical scale we use had already been used sometimes in the last several hundred years?
It was like a roller coaster trying to decide whether Wayne’s apology was genuine or not
Lol I felt the same, it’s borderline passive-agressive
Very much a "lawyers are making me say this" kind of vibe
Genuine??? Come on. Stevens' is one of the most famous songs of the last 50 years. He knew he copied it, and then what? Simply forgot? The whole team behind just thought they could get away with that?
It's a classic case of 'let's do it and hope we don't get caught, and if we do, just play the desperate, ashamed big fan part who apologises'.
@@damianoakes2592 Exactly. Play dumb since you've been caught red-handed, and let us try and fix this, while spiking up our fees so you'll learn the next time ;)
There has been so much talk about the Ray Parker, Jr./Huey Lewis thing over the years, yet so few ever mention M's Pop Muzik in that discussion. I'm glad you hit upon it, cos I had the link to the video in the chamber and ready to go if you didn't.
Another informative and entertaining video, Mr Bennett, for which many thanks. Isn't it becoming inevitable that melodies which appeal to the ear and/or don't sound too dissonant are increasingly likely to resemble earlier melodies, today? The Hurrian Hymn was written over 3,500 years ago. Repetition is impossible to avoid after so long a time.
I'm glad you mentioned Pop Muzik. Rite of Spring sounds like Twilight Zone ot the Outer Limits. The last example is so bland I'm surprised that this hasn't been copied many times.
Ah yes, Tchaikovsky’s Rite of spring 😂. Thanks for the video David!
That inspired Shostakovich to write the Firebird..
At least the caption is correct. Even Homer nods. 😃
Vivaldi wrote the Firebird. Get your facts straight.
@@BaieDesBaies Four of them.
😅😅😅
When I first heard the beginning of 'Do You Believe in Love' by Huey Lewis I thought it was a
cover of 'Sweet Talkin' Woman by ELO. Even the lyrics were very similar.
By the way - give a listen to "Call Me" by Blondie released in August 1979 - a couple of months after KISS' "I was born for loving you". Much as I despise KISS, it seems that not only Springsteen lifted the tune - although the Blondie resemblance is not quite as strong.
EDIT - also the Black-Eyed Peas/I Need a Freak tune is clearly taken from a famous classical theme. I can't remember the composer - Beethoven perhaps? Oh and Demi Levato/Icona Pop ripped off the "One Note Samba" ( joke).
I don't understand how anyone could willfully listen to Blondie in 2023
@@Zeta9966 OK, what's your idea of good music then?
i heard call me before kiss too
@@jonnyboybrownie6390 No, actually "Call Me" came out a couple of months later. Sad to say, but KISS was there first. Yechh...
@@spindriftdrinkernot blondie
The build up for the ending part of Coldplay's "Adventure of a Lifetime" sounds like the chorus of "It's Only Love" by the Beatles
I have a strange feeling that this particular riff has appeared in even more songs
3:55
Same thing with Titanic! James Cameron wanted Enya to do the soundtrack, but she refused. He was using her music as temp music, so that's why Southampton (Titanic) sounds like Book of Days (Enya), for instance.
Enya didn’t care about James Cameron using her music!! She was so busy behind the scenes of getting CELTIC WOMAN established that letting James Cameron use her music actually worked to her advantage!!
We're all bombarded with info nowadays. Sometimes we hear a tune- and can't get it out of our heads. The Beatles spent much time with Donovan. Though I don't know what came first, the similarities in melody to John's Norwegian Wood and Donovan's Yellow is the Color (of my true love's hair) isn't lost on me.
Practically all John Williams scores for Star Wars movies sound like Holst!
And Holst sounds a lot like Wagner
+ new world symphony, dvorak
This is why I like writing music outside of the 4/4 time signature. It’s less likely to sound like some other pop artists music.
I've got a really interesting one. The other day I was watching Goodtimes Entertainment's 1998 movie "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer: The Movie". There's a song in the movie called "Show Me The Light" which is performed by Michael Lloyd & Debbie Lytton. Now I have a lot of CDs in my house of old bands & their music, & one of the CD's was a collection of songs from a 1970s band called Bread. From the first few chords of "Show Me The Light" I couldn't help but notice that it sounded exactly like Bread's song "Lost Without Your Love" which came out in 1977, 21 years before "Show Me The Light". The verse melodies of both songs also matched up perfectly.
On the temp track front, you might want to look at the Craig Safan track "Confrontation" from the soundtrack to Michael Mann's film THIEF. Mann had temp tracked the finale of the film to "Comfortably Numb" while he was editing. Tangerine Dream was doing the music, and he asked them to write something using the Pink Floyd song as a guide, but he didn't like what they came up with. So her brought in Safan instead, who came up with something that's recognizable when you know what it was based on, but not enough so that Pink Floyd would have noticed. Not to my knowledge, anyway.
Post Toastee by Tommy Bolin and Cocaine by JJ Cale. Both released the same year, but not sure which one came first. Of course, both sound like they could have come from Cream's Sunshine of You Love.
I have written stuff that I thought was original, only to find out later that it sounds like something else that it is possible I could have heard on the radio sometime in the past. However, I have also written things that sound like something else, only to learn that mine came first (but there was no way anyone could have ripped it off). In other words, coincidences happen.
You should do a video on Lou Reed. I have been listening to his work and realized that he is a lot more brilliant than I earlier considered, having been caught up in his extreme lifestyle instead of his music. For instance, A Perfect Day has brilliant piano work, which reminds me of another song, but I cannot say what.🤦
You can thank his buddy David Bowie for producing Transformer
I know you cover The Beatles extensively, David. Have you done one on the similarities between "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" and "Why Don't You Get a Job?" by The Offspring? When I heard it on the radio in 1999 it was pretty obvious. I thought they must have done it on purpose, sort of like a parody, but maybe not. Anyway, I really like your channel. I learn a great deal about music from you!
"There's something everyone can enjoy!"
I think a few songs off the Americana album are in part meant to be twisted takes on big hits from the past. "She's Got Issues" seems to be inspired by "Hold on Loosely" by .38 Special for example.
Great video, not sure if you've already covered it, but , Alan Parson's Project "Eye in the Sky" seems to have had the chorus "ripped off' by Lady Antebellum's hit "I need you now" . Something for a future video if you haven't already. Keep up the great work.
Today I was listening to Simon and Garfunkel A Hazy Shade of Winter and the beginning of the guitar chord progression reminded me totally of pretty woman from roy orbison
On the Beach Boys Smile deluxe boxset, there is one track that has the chorus sound exactly like the chorus for I Was Made For Loving You. The Beach Boys song was recorded 12 years before the Kiss song.
You beat me to it! I replied to a post above before reading yours.
Surprised it's not talked about more how Flo Rida's song "My House" has a chorus melody that sounds exactly like "Impossible" by Shontelle.
Omg yes please talk about this one
I've got a few more that were missed out on:
1) The instrumental to "My Baby Loves Me" by Martina McBride sounds strangely similar to that of "Born In The USA" by Bruce Springsteen
2) The opening chords and chord progression of "Show Me The Light" by Michael Lloyd and Debbie Lytton sounds exactly like those from "Lost Without Your Love" by Bread
3) "Tennessee Whiskey" by Chris Stapleton sounds exactly the same as "I'd Rather Go Blind" by Etta James
I absolutely love these music comparison videos, and I LOVE music ❤
I have written many titles of songs that have the same riff or sound similar but I’m not musically trained and can’t always pinpoint what the likeness is. I’m a bit of a perfectionist so I Google the songs, see who made it first then write it down.
I love these videos as they’re songs I hadn’t realised sound the same, there must be so many!
Thank you ❤
Thank you 😊
Hey I just watched your video on Pianote, but I was subed way before that video. Nice work man, you explain music theory in a way that is understood easily.
2:19 I've read that Huey Lewis was first commisioned the main theme for Ghostbusters; but after initial rehearsal he dropped to compose and perform the soundtrack of Back To The Future; then Ghostbusters producers made Ray Parker Jr very clear they wanted the same beat and the result is very similar
The Kylie/Kaiser Chiefs example is an interesting one, as while Ricky Wilson might be friendly with Kylie, the rest of the band (who co-wrote the song and don't have Ricky's TV and radio career) might be tempted by the chance of some income. Especially as it wasn't as Kylie wrote Padam Padam anyway, so the court case wouldn't be against her.
Thank you David, another really informative and entertaining presentation! Keep them coming!
I was listening to "Pop Muzic" recently and the similarity didn't jump out at me like the Hughie Lewis and the News track
The Black Eyed Peas song actually sampled Dvorak's New World Symphony, that's not plagiarism ! It was composed in 1893 !
It's still plagiarism. It's just not illegal. Lots of pop acts copy the classics.
@@ConceptJunkie It is not plagiarism if it is not illegal, plagiarism is a legal term. But you're right for everything else. The fact that the Black Eyed Peas didn't use this argument to defend them is kinda suspicious btw.
@@baptistebaali7134it should be illegal
@@Augfordpdoggie Maybe... that is something everybody has his own opinion on. All I know is that in music in general, every artist have been inspired by another one... there is a gap between inspiration and simple copy so I am not mad when I here some talented band use a chord progression or melody from another artist if they manage to make something different with it. I mean even Bethoven's Ode to Joy is based on Mozart's Misericordias Domini
I saw a mash-up of that Kiss song with and Earth Wind and Fire song "Boogie Wonderland," it's hilarious. I thought they could have added Fleetwood Mac's song "Rhiannon." I keep hearing mash-ups in my head, like today I heard an Ed Sheeran song, Taylor Swift's song, "Cruel Summer," and "Unstoppable" by SIA
There is an early 2000 song by the Mexican alternative rock band Jumbo called Cada Vez Que Me Voy which sounds quite similar to Congregation by Foo Fighters which came out in 2014. Either Grohl was listening to some under mexican indie at the time, or they both ripped off something else... But what was it?
Another example from the golden 80s: Bon Jovi (You give love a bad name, 1986) and Bonnie Tyler (If you were a woman and I was a man, 1986). Both stole the refrain melody from Laura Branigans unforgettable "The Lucky One" fom 1984.
and the melody is currently in the charts again with Ava Max's "Kings and Queens"
@@luke5100 Kinda, it's also not that similar.
As a composer, how are we supposed to catalog a ZILLION songs while trying to write our own? HOW????
The fact he could write a song and record it, mix it, etc. and at no point did anyone in the band or the production team say, "Er, hang on a minute, isn't this a Cat Stevens' son?"
I Love It/Really Don't Care don't have a melody. They're, to all intents and purposes, virtually monotonic.
Paranoid android by radiohead and take what you want by post Malone start off very much alike! I'd love to see you cover those.
0:57 to 1:24 and 1:31 to 2:00 from Muse's Knights of Cydonia sounds on purpose alot like Tornadoes' song Telstar. Matthew Bellamy (lead vocalist, guitarist, pianist, and songwriter of Muse) is the son of George Bellamy; the guitarist of The Tornadoes.
I haven’t listened to it since it was on the radio, but I remember waiting on the world to change sounding a lot like people get ready.
Ray Parker (& Raydio) did this all the time: "All In The Way You Get Down" is in the vein of Michel Jacksons "Off The Wall", "Until The Morning Comes" is more than a nod to "Lost In Music" by Sister Sledge
There is a Bowie song that uses some of the chords from stairway to heaven. I don't remember the title. It has the lyric when Ziggy played guitar
1. The Beach Boys - Surfin USA is a copy of Chuck Berry- Sweet Little Sixteen. They settled somehow and Berry is always credited as writer when Surfin USA is put on a record. Brian WIlson said if I remembger correct, it should have been an hommage to Chuck Berry.
2. Stand-in Soundtrack could be the old Mortal Kombat Movie Theme Song ("Moooortal Kombaat") which is inspired by many eurodance-songs but one stands out clearly: 2 Unlimited -Twilight Zone.
Sweet child of mine and Australian Crawl's Unpublished Critics. Although Gunners only used the chord progressions (and rearranged the order) but as Ed Sheeran recently proved - you can't copyright a chord progression so technically not a copy which is probably why there has never been a lawsuit, but they definitely used it.. Australian Crawl were signed by Geffen Records in the early 80's.
There’s been two songs I’ve noticed recently that I haven’t seen talked about yet.
The One Republic song called Runaway is very similar to Rosanna by Toto.
The Taylor Swift song Karma is extremely similar to Music Is My Hot Hot Sex by CSS
I've got a few more to add on:
1) The instrumental to "My Baby Loves Me" by Martina McBride sounds strangely similar to that of "Born In The USA" by Bruce Springsteen
2) The opening chords and chord progression of "Show Me The Light" by Michael Lloyd and Debbie Litton sounds exactly like those from "Lost Without Your Love" by Bread
3) "Tennessee Whiskey" by Chris Stapleton sounds exactly the same as "I'd Rather Go Blind" by Etta James
Not being familiar with Kiss, the first thing that went through my head when you played "Outlaw Pete" was The Rolling Stones' "Let's Spend the Night Together."
I have a few more for you.
1) The instrumental to "My Baby Loves Me" by Martina McBride sounds strangely similar to that of "Born In The USA" by Bruce Springsteen
2) The opening chords and chord progression of "Show Me The Light" by Michael Lloyd and Debbie Litton sounds exactly like those from "Lost Without Your Love" by Bread
3) "Tennessee Whiskey" by Chris Stapleton sounds exactly the same as "I'd Rather Go Blind" by Etta James
The Morrissey song Every Day is Like Sunday is awfully similar in melody (and chords) to Love You by Primal Scream (Primal Scream is often derided as one long "influence," but to me this specific example seems very clear, and I've never seen it commented on). LY was being played live by Primal Scream as early as 1985, and released in 1987 while EDILS was written after/as the Smiths broke up in 1987 at the earliest, and not released until 1988.
There's a part about Demi Levato's "Really Don't Care" that you forgot to mention. While it does lift mostly from Icona Pop's "I Love It", it's not the only song that "Really Don't Care" borrows from. If you listen to the line "And even when the stars and moon collide", you'd notice that it sounds very similar to "Shadows of the Night" by Pat Benatar, specifically the line "We're running with the shadows of the night."
There's a sequence in Nights in White Satin that bears a striking resemblance to The Hunters' 1961 guitar instrumental 'The Storm'.
The Black Eyed Peas and Sexual Harassment songs both sound like they're pulling from Dvorak's New World Symphony too.
I'm disappointed. It's an obvious reference and I was expecting it to be mentioned...
When you were going on about Temp music used in like movies and stuff it reminds me of the fact that the song Hot Stuff by Donna Summer was used as temp music in the movie musical Fame for the big scene where they all dance in the street and stuff but that was because the actual song they were going to use the title song of the movie was still incomplete and being written at the time but the film crew needed to film that scene that day because they only had access to that space to film for that day so they used Hot Stuff as a place filler because the dancers needed a song to dance to for that scene to work. Then once the song was complete and finished they just overlayed it over the scene and took out Hot Stuff for the actual film version.
I found that last example really interesting. I know the Icona Pop track well, so it was almost eerie to hear something that sounds something so similar not just in melody (or, let's be honest, lack thereof) but also in instrumentation.
Demi Levato's "Really Don't Care" also borrows from Pat Benatar's "Shadows Of The Night". The line "And even when the stars and moon collide" in RDC sounds very similar to the line "We're running with the shadows of the night." in SOTN.
There is a very strong resemblance in the verses of "3 small words" from Josie and the pussycats and "Another World" from Japanese singer Gackt. The choruses are different, though. As far as I know, there was never any lawsuit.
Joe Jackson's "I'm the Man"
The Romantics, "What I like about you"
And of course Eddie and the Cruisers (Even though they're fictional) using the same chords in "On the Dark Side".
In a cover band, it makes for a loooooong medley of E, A and D.
Oops. Forgot John Mellencamp's "R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A." Genuine rip-offs from one to the next, but it doesn't stop *any* of them from being fun!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've heard "Padam, padam" and "Everyday I love you less and less" many times but somehow never noticed the similarity. I'd say they're different enough and the plagiarism lawsuit wouldn't hold.
Padam padam is a french song from Edith Piaf
I guess you could make a lawsuit work if you really wanted to; Adam Neely had a vid about this a while ago. Basicly, if it "kinda feels like a similar vibe" -> you can sue and maybe settle or win. Or just "it has notes that go up, hen down" -> you can also sue, even if the "vibe" is different. In short, most judges don't know much about music but still have to make a decision and with suggestive phrasing and framing, you can make these types of lawsuits work if you have the money and patience. It's sad :(
They hardly sound similar.
I need a Freak theme was stolen from Dvorak's symphony, what do u think?
need more of these videos
Great clip, David. Here's my submission for a "rip-off" song: "Mockingbird" by Grant Lee Buffalo (1990s) is clearly taken from "Goodbye Stranger" by Supertramp (1970s), all the way down to the falsetto chorus.
my favourite example is Golden Skans by Klaxons and Hung Up by Madonna, it's not an exact rip off but the similarities (even mentioned by Klaxons) are quite funny
Damn, that's a good catch, kind of ironic when Hung Up samples ABBA
Speaking of that Demi Lovato song, has anyone else noticed that the chorus of "Really Don't Care" feels a _lot_ like the chorus of "Shadows of the Night" by Pat Benatar? I'm surprised there wasn't a lawsuit involved in that.
Great video. Another one I'd recommend is "Heartbeat Song" by Kelly Clarkson, which IMO is super similar to "The Middle" by Jimmy Eat World, both in its verses and chorus.
I noticed that too! Also here are few that I recommended too:
1) The instrumental to "My Baby Loves Me" by Martina McBride sounds strangely similar to that of "Born In The USA" by Bruce Springsteen
2) The opening chords and chord progression of "Show Me The Light" by Michael Lloyd and Debbie Litton sounds exactly like those from "Lost Without Your Love" by Bread
3) "Tennessee Whiskey" by Chris Stapleton sounds exactly the same as "I'd Rather Go Blind" by Etta James
Hoping if you make another one of these that you talk about Sum41's No Reason and Theres No Solution (both from the album Chuck, 2004), that are very blatantly "inspired" by One Step Closer, Crawling, and In The End (all from Hybrid Theory, 2000) by Linkin Park. No Reason is the most blatant, and is the One Step Closer rip. I do really like the two Sum41 songs, but I also really like Linkin Park, and it jumped out at me SO quickly lmao
Icehouse - No Promises / David Bowie & Pat Metheny - This Is Not America
U2 - Bad / Filter - Take My Picture
Olivia Rodrigo 'good 4 u' vs Paramore 'Misery Business'
When I hear the chorus to Demi Lovato's "I Really Don't Care;" the song that comes to my mind is "Shadows of the Night" by Pat Benatar.
I know right? Especially the line "And even when the stars and moon collide." It sounds so much like "We're running with the shadows of the night."
4:49 That melody line is similar to "Whistle While You Work" from Snow White & The Seven Dwarves.
The most obvious songs that spring to mind: The hook/title lines from Electric Light Orchestra (Jeff Lynne) "Can't Get It Out of My Head" and Kylie Minogue (Cathy Dennis / Rob Davis) "I Can't Get You Out of My Head". Even the lyrics are almost identical.
Suggestions:
* "Footlose" by Kenny Loggins & "All Right Now" by Free
* "Feel this Moment" by Pitbull/Christina Aguilera & "Take On Me" by A-Ha
* "Taj Mahal" by Jorge Ben & "Do You Think I'm Sexy" by Rod Stewart
* "Misirlou" by Dick Dale & "Pump it" by The Black Eyed Peas
* "The Time of my Life" by Bill Medley/Jennifer Warnes & "The Time" by The Black Eyed Peas
I'll add a few more:
- "My Baby Loves Me" by Martina McBride vs. "Born In The USA" by Bruce Springsteen
- "Tennessee Whiskey" by Chris Stapleton vs. "I'd Rather Go Blind" by Etta James
- "Show Me The Light (From the soundtrack of "Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer: The Movie")" by Michael Lloyd ft. Debbie Lytton vs. "Lost Without Your Love" by Bread
Thanks for bringing up Pop Muzik. It boggles my mind that almost no one ever talks about how I Want a New Drug ripped that off. I've been saying it for decades.
In regards to KISS, they admitted that "Deuce" was inspired by The Rolling Stones "Bitch". I'd like to see a breakdown of both songs, should it be something that you'd be interested at looking into.
I am a Classic Rock DJ at an FM station and over the years , while playing requests , i hear a lot of songs vaguely similar and others way too similar! I saved up a list of these songs for 8 years .. but many YT channels that feature these " rip-off" songs has still not mentioned a lot of these songs i compiled. One thing is sure , the "Sampling epidemic" in the music industry is horrendous!!
You could also compare the guitar riffs in Hunters & Collectors' "Holy Grail" to Boston's "More Than A Feeling". :)
Father And Son, best used song in GoTG vol 2. Yondu Udonta... I will see you in the stars. 🥺😭
Hot fun in the summer time (I think the bridge or chorus) vs Must be some misunderstanding by Phil collins? What do you thing? the riff sounds the same
Exes and Ohs by Elle King, and Sixteen Tons by Merle Travis, most memorably sung by Tennessee Ernie Ford
KISS is a truly wonderful level of petty and I'm all here for it
I love how that quote basically says if they sue you, you suck.
@@howamidriving27 Super ruthless. Like, you've got a lawsuit on your hands AND a sick burn. I wish I could approach everything in my life with a similar level of... Selective loathing
The "I Need a Freak" vs. "My Humps" one is reminding me of something else but I can't think what that is and it's bugging me. Closest an online search turned up was Brahms' Quartet for piano & strings, Opus 60, which *might* have been what I was thinking of because I do listen to a lot of classical music but the first 2 pitches are different and I'm not convinced that I was remembering something classical in this case.
I’m thinking Dvořák and movement IV of the New World Symphony - is that it by any chance?