Why great F1 drivers thrive in dirty air by Peter Windsor
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Although turbulent, "dirty" air today makes it difficult for one driver closely to follow another one - and therefore to make overtaking one of the rarer sights on Sunday afternoons - it is also true that some drivers have a superior ability to deal with dirty air - Max Verstappen, Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc being classic examples. In this video, Peter Windsor explains how these three F1 stars adapt their driving to dirty air - and why other drivers are less able to do so.
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Peter Windsor raises analysis to a new level. Every week he mentions something deeply interesting. Whether history, engineering matters (Scarbs), or driving techniques from his vast store of personal experiences, presented rationally without a lot of bell and whistle graphics or noise. I really appreciate this!!
Yet this amazing knowledge gets disregarded by so many because he has such high regard for Lewis.
hahaha, you didnt watched his silverstone vid hahah
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He has a high regard for drivers who drive in a style that anticipates the dynamic behaviour of a car more than he does for long corner drivers or reactive drivers.
Check out some of his analysis of drivers from Reutemann to Schumacher, from Prost to Leclerc, he’s always consistent on this.
@@youtalkin2me595 I know. I have been watching Peter since his first video. My point was not really about Peter, but was about the idiots that would choose not to pay attention to him because they hate Lewis and Peter (quite rightly) has so many good things to say about Lewis
@@noomade
Yeah mate, I know that’s the point you intended, but I think some of the folks that criticise PW are probably newcomers who aren’t familiar with the longevity of his f1 journalism and just assume he’s a Johnny come lately Lewis fanboy while completely missing the point of what he’s talking about.
Lol. I suspect flying a space craft is somewhat easier. Dave Scott, who drove the first moon rover, used to love watching F1 drivers at work around Long Beach. He said to me once that flying to the moon was nothing compared with what the top drivers were doing through Turns 1 and 2...
Hi Peter interesting analysis; however, whilst you have a point, the best drivers will still retain their ability at the ultimate limit. The new cars will still be susceptible to turbulence, they will just be closer to the car in front before they hit the "wall", where the grip degrades too much. There will still be a spread in how close the driver can get due to talent.
My expectation is, therefore, that the better drivers will still be able to put themselves into a position to pass more frequently than their lessor talented brethren, so more of the circuit opens up to them as having passing opportunities. Yes the other drivers will have more opportunity to pass, which isn't a bad thing, especially if it all happens without DRS; but also drivers as a whole will have to work on their defensive driving abilities - better positioning on the track, drifting out slightly to widen the car, etc.. as Alonso was doing to Hamilton at Hungary
I'm hoping for the best drivers scything through the field, if out of position, and back markers, when lapping without waiting for blue flags; and more epic fights at the front as cars run closer, yet defensive skills become honed due to their importance.
Depends on what you mean tho, imagine 3d pod racing, it would be equally as challenging i think at a high level and way to dangerous to actually do.
Astronauts and pilots will strive to mitigate task saturation as much as possible through intuitive design of instruments, sharing workload amongst multiple crewmembers, checklists, scheduling, etc. For F1 drivers it's sort of impossible since there's only one guy in the cockpit, and things develop too quickly to rationally analyse
Hamilton very deliberately drives unconventional lines when following, to get as clean air as possible
It's amazing to watch him hunt the driver ahead.
Yes but that’s because of the car.
@@twdegr 🤦🏽♂️
@@twdegr shaking my damn head!!!
So why does Bottas struggle so much to follow then?
I'll wait. I know you will have an interesting response.
PS
Drop the hate.
@@dsistudios8446 Because his entire career is being a carpet
After listening to Peter break down driver techniques Im starting to think flying a space ship would be much easier. The things these drivers can do at the speed they are going is amazing.
Is not that amazing when you think the majority are racing before even drop the dippers. They don't think about it in such deep way.
@Conceptual Messiah Racing and driving a Formula 1 car are two different things. I’m sure much more thought goes into driving a car like that than we can imagine.
Yeah, driving a racing car isn’t all that. They just don’t get the time in the saddle. Otherwise anyone can do it tbh.
@@YEEYEE-dy8tk I'm not saying that isn't a complex operation. I'm just point out that is not that amazing from the drivers point of view because they are trained from such an young age.
lot of nonsense is made up all the time, dirty air is actually very well simulated in proper race sims, try it ou, this bla bla about who is good in this is just guess work, motorsports is data, you can't see that from watching tv or track, you need data, and if you wanne use TV you must be a motorsport freak like me and a lot of other who do their homework better then peter by watching many races back on board lap after lap and different drivers, F1 media is not doing that, lot of nonsense said, driving trough dirty air is not some special technic, it's just a sudden loss of downforce which tests your reaction and reflection and the better you are and the more confidence you have in yourself and car (they don't all drive the same car remember) is decisive in how long you can follow or how close etc. You can't just say he's is good at it because he overtook so many, or he stays so long behind him, in motorsport every situation is differently with zillions of different variables
Charles going through the field in the first Austrian GP this season really shows him hunting for the clean air or making the most of the dirty air through every corner. It's a great example of this I'd say. But I could be wrong :)
This is so true, you always see Lewis be able to go through the pack bc he can follow but never valterri, same with Max and his teammates, Charles we have seen compared to teammates, it’s so noticeable, constantly see those best three capable of getting past cars even though every other driver says they can’t pass bc of these “cars”
i wouldn’t say leclerc is able to do that. He might have been with the strongest engine in 2019 but other than that he is like George - strong qualifying but then looses all the positions because he makes mistakes or attacks too aggressively (divebombing) - some races are an exception ofc where he does great like austria
LeClerc did show it this year. Then again Sainz also did a ton of overtaking.
I'd really like to hear you go through all the big name drivers on the grid and discuss which boxes you don't think they tick. Eg. which boxes do Alonso, Vettel, Ricciardo, Russell, Sainz, Norris, Bottas and Pérez *not* tick?
I think those 3 have one biggest craft: able to adjust. Everytime situations changes those 3 shine. That’s also the reason why they have sometimes big gaps compared to their teammates. So if the car is fine in the conditions they are close, but if the track or circumstances don’t suits the car the difference are big in time. This is also their benefits for next year I think: adjusting to the new car, change their driving technique in a few laps.
the time when you can really differentiate their talent is: when it rains. All the telemetry goes out the window, the driver needs to feel out where the limits are. Lewis goes forwards, Max goes forwards, Bottas goes backwards. Not sure where Pastor Maldonado goes. Looking forward to watching Mazespin in the rain.
Fernando was awesome to watch how he defended the position.
Mr. Windsor, I’ve known your voice since childhood watching F1 with my father in the Speedvision days on early Sunday mornings here in the US. I’m happy I found your channel and so nice to hear your commentary once again…..thank you
Ah yes speed vision was fantastic.
As soon as FOX bought SpeedVision, speed junkies knew that it was a goner :( Such a great channel with a wide coverage of all types of motor sport.
I love your driving analysis. I believe you are 100% correct. Way back in the last century I was driving tire tests in an Indy car. In clean air I was fast. When Foyt dirtied the air, I backed off. I couldn't feel the car. Foyt explained how you have to modify the cornering line ....... and hope you regain traction..... maybe for him....no thanks
I just wanna watch an F1 race with Pete and get his commentary during a race. Also I thought the race was great having Nico as a commentator.
Love this Pete - can't get this kind of insight anywhere else. Uniquely great content - Alex
Yes he's a great man to explain so beautifully that. Sorry for the english I'm Swiss
Totally agree Alex!
I hope you are right. And I also hope that the said drivers Lewis, Charles and Max would be talented enough to find yet another driving approach to use as advantage over other drivers next season under new regulations.
LH has already done this when you think in his early years in F1, he was RAPID but had a tendency to wear tyres more quickly than others.
Now, he’s a master of tyre wear and his driving is very smooth, something it wasn’t when he started in 2007.
Peter this is amazing. I would love to see what you explained here in a visual form, comparing the lines of Lewis, Max, Sainz, etc. short corners, geometrical apex etc. Great explanation 🙌🙌🙌
You are like a F1 Gandalf... So much wisdom and insight...
It took lewis 10 laps (I think?) to overtake Alonso on much fresher and softer tires and a car that is muc faster. Vettel was never gonna make that pass unless Ocon would have made a mistake.
Hamilton didn’t risk it at all. He could easily have overtaken, but he was being conservative since he was gonna take the lead of the title anyhow.
@@MashiatCOD99 I agree. Lewis was very conservative because he needed to be sure the other driver didn’t make a mistake and potentially puncture his tyre or something.
I can't wait play this tomorrow on the way to work, love listening to your vids in the car. 👍
Peter your detailed analysis of driving is fascinating and so helpful for engaging with the sport. Thank you!
What I look for your videos is the fact that you're very precise on your understanding of how a driver works and should work (the word "working" being "driving", of course). Even if you are modest on your knowledge. But I can tell you, as an engineer, your input is amazing. Thanks a lot, Peter. And don't forget to do some more livestreams !!!
First time I’ve heard that of Lewis. Over the years it’s been assumed / said he just has the better and faster car. So followed better. Interesting stuff Pete.
Well, always knew that he was different.
Nico couldn't and Bottas can't follow like Lewis, in the same car!!!
@@dsistudios8446 exactly Spain 2021 is just one example of many
The faster cars struggle more in dirty air because they have more downforce.
The only people who assume that are those who don't know much about F1 apart from reading the news. Hamilton has beat everyone he's ever gone up again. Rosberg beat him in 2016 and the stress was so much he literally retired at the peak of his career.
@@DaedalusMinion yup.
Excellent analysis due to expertise, experience, a historical perspective, and a complete, comprehensive knowledge of all facets of an F1 car, and also of all the styles, habits, and subtle differences of the way various drivers manipulate their cars. I learn more about all aspects of F1 racing from a 10 minute video of yours than I do from 2 or even 3 commentators during a complete F1 race. Why you don't have your own 1/2 hour or even 1 hour F1 Analysis program, pre or post race or any other time, is beyond me and defies logic! Keep up the great work, Peter! As far as I'm concerned you are The F1 Guru! Thank you.
Go on Windsor Bang on sir!! enjoyed your analysis and insight - I started watching F1 in the 70s as a kid so I know what you mean about nullified skills - those cars were beasts on small chains!
Thank you for another very informative video, look forward to the next upload on this channel.
The usual perfect mix of depth, detail, and analysis punctuated with firsthand examples from a long history of close observation and consideration. Superlative, Sir! Thanks.
I've been following you for 20 years Peter and I think this is your most astute insight ever!
One of the most interesting topics I have seen on TH-cam recently
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Best analysis and best in the business. Appreciate these videos. Amazing
Another superb video peter👌
Thank you Mr. Windsor! I enjoy your videos so much!!! Your knowledge and your didactic ability are fascinating to me. I think drivers and strategists shoul watch your videos too. Two thumbs up!
Another very thought provoking vlog! I think PW has a great point about being able to follow closely in dirty air, but might add that I also think that the three he mentions are using both the 'set up' for the corner but are also able to use the rear to rotate the car 'just enough' to contribute to placing the car in the right direction / position. Another illuminating and thought worthy vlog. My thanks.
Learned a lot from this vid, Peter. Thanks for posting.
Really love hearing about driving styles, car control and how racing is more than just finding “ the optimum line “ for a given corner . It is responding and adapting lines based on many factors. I like hearing comparisons as well . I wonder for example how Schumacher, hakkinen, senna etc stack up compared to these three modern era drivers in Hamilton verstappen and leclerc . As a visual person I would love to see some basics graphics or pictures with annotations/lines added to bring the conversation to life even more . Thanks and great job 👏
The great drivers will simply learn once again (like Lewis and others) from the newer setup and continue to thrive better. I believe that's all there is to it. It all depends on their hard work and 'drive' to become better. To know for sure we will have to wait until next year.
Is a good explanation and I totally agree with Peter. The 3 mentioned drivers always close in much better indeed.
I think the ability to turn in more during the understeer moments in dirty air also relates to their ability to tire save. Because if those drivers didnt tire save to the extreme they can do while being quick, they wouldnt have the front tire grip to turn in to give them that extra passing ability.
In regards to watering down some talent, i think these new regulations will show how good rear instable cars can be manipulated. Currently, dirty air tremendously affects the front grip levels while the rear isnt as effected. With the new cars having so much front wing, the tunnels and thus the rear downforce will be more affected by dirty air. this will bring us back to pre 2016 levels ish of sliding around and seeing oversteer on turn in, rather than understeering with the current cars.
That's an interesting point. Kimi has always been good with cars that are prone to oversteer so we should expect to see him do better with the 2022 cars if your analysis is correct.
What a great video and analysis.
Brilliant video this best analyst in the game 👏👏
Eye opener level analysis, doesn’t get any better. Thank you.
Neat work peter
Top tier drivers will quickly learn to exploit the new aero feel. Any team that doesn’t run practice/testing laps behind a lead car is being negligent. How accurately will the sims correctly model actual car behavior of the following car, and possibly the lead car?
Modern sims are close enough that the drivers will be able to get a feel for how the car will act following closely. Likely 10-15 laps in pre-season testing will be more than enough for F1 drivers to know and understand it well enough to head into the season.
It's not going to be 100% perfect but it's good enough that I doubt any of the drivers who try it in simulators will be surprised by how the car acts when following others once they actually get out on track.
@@velvetjones I think u forgot to take into account that during pre season testing.. driver not only drive to feel new car.. they also testing the development for aero, engine, and tire.. so the car u get to drive from pre season only feel the same in 1st race IF your team gets almost all the design right... but i agreed that a great driver will be able to feel and adapt the car quicker than a good driver..
For comment: Max has the sixth sence of grip on the track peter windsor
Thank you for your nice explanation always
My thanks💪
So glad I found this channel.
Great analysis!!
Great analysis again!
After you mentioning the last corner at Hungary last weekend it was really noticeable how Lewis in particular is able to turn in so much earlier (minimising the corner length) but yet still making the corner! Didn’t get to see much of max or Charles of course.
Correct
If you can, rewatch the race earlier at Barcelona and watch how much earlier Hamilton gets his direction change when following Max.
I might be wrong about this but I’ve always thought Lewis learnt a lot in the years with Jensen as his teammate, because that was the season when I first observed this early corner approach in his driving. Maybe the Mclarens he drove before didn’t respond as well to that demand or maybe I wasn’t paying attention enough 🤬🤦🏼
Hamilton always does it. He take a corner in the shortest possible but still fast to save his tire. Traveling less in the corner means less tire deg.
The best drivers don't step in the car, they put it on.
It's a pity for the crash at Silverstone, before it Hamilton had been making beautiful alternate lines to get non-DRS attempts at overtaking Max. He has managed to complete these non DRS overtakes quite a few times lately.
His move on Sainz in Hungary was effectively non-DRS too (both of them had DRS so it cancels out).
Peter, I appreciate you because you provide knowledge and insight that helps me learn. I do agree but as you well know the new formula will present drivers with something different to contend with.
A great video, agree with the main points but to be fair Lewis had much fresher, and softer tyres than more example Fernando - once he finally passed him he was lapping 2.5 seconds faster than Fernando. So... yeah - if you are lapping 2.5 seconds faster than the other guy its little wonder you are able to crowd behind him, as compared to Vettel who is actually in a car that is overall either equal or even slower than the Alpine, so little wonder that he wasn't able to apply similar pressure. Monza 2020 is a much better example of Hamilton's overtaking talent compared to for example Bottas imo, as both of them fell behind in that race, lewis was able to recover and work his way through the field, Bottas just stayed lost and couldn't do much to advance forward
@VladK Hungary 2021 isn't the sole example of lewis following others in wake. Anyone watching for any period of time has seen lewis's (bono my tires) only to unleash fastest lap. It's the same with his "wake" riding. It's that same feel that allows him to be so dynamic in the wet. To battle Alonso for 10 laps while not burning through his tires is amazing.
I do agree having a faster car helps but a lot of that pace is lost when behind another car, hence people like Seidel stating you need to be around 3 seconds faster to have a chance of overtaking. Still taking nothing away from Lewis not many would be able to follow that closely.
It's amazing how people are so quick to use their inconsistent logic to put down Lewis's ability.
Max's car, although broken, was still over two seconds faster than the Haas.
The same people will say that it is not impressive for Lewis to stay close to and eventually pass a two time world champion that many consider one of the best ever and who made it clear that he would rather run Lewis of the road than let him go round him in any corners that he (alonso) owned.
But on the other hand it is so impressive that Max passes a rookie in a sh** car, and had basically barge that rookie out of the way to do so. When both Lewis and Max had about the same performance advantage as the car they were chasing.
(It is quite sad that a broken RB is still 2 seconds faster than a Haas)
@@noomade I literally said "there are much better examples of Hamiltons overtaking talent" and you cry that I am putting Lewis down....? Hot damn...
@@vladxx2 it might read as an attack on you and your post but it's not.
I don't believe for a second that the next cars will have as much dirty air reduction as advertised. My pick is 10-15%, not the 50% the FIA say. Once Adrian Newey et Al get hold of the new aero they will be pulling out every gram of downforce - and therefore dirty air...that they can
Very rough numbers, assuming µ stays constant over vertical load, which it doesn't: 100% car weight downforce @ 200 km/h -> ~4g lateral force. 50% dowforce -> ~3g, which only allows for 173 km/h at the same radius. So there's your 10-15% speed loss around the same corner when a car loses 50% downforce.
Your measured and coherent views are always a breath of fresh air in these times of social media bullies.
What a masterpiece!
That is super interesting to consider for 2022. The team interpretations for the new rules will make the difference next year.
Peter is always brilliant in his analysis
This is something that I have been saying for a while. Next cars will have less dirty air to deal with but also a MUCH bigger temperature range for their tyres to work in. So those that can drive in dirty air and those that are good at keeping their tyres working are screwed.
It will definitely hurt the most complete drivers like Lewis etc.
I mean the only way they can really make it worse is by removing any races in the rain.
Excellent explanation mister Windsor.
amazing insights
Thanks for this video. Because it explains a bit what Alonso said about using the backmarkers to depend against Schumi. Been watching f1 for over 6 years now and never saw that skill.
Thanks for this Peter. Of thr three drivers mentioned, Max and Lewis are feel drivers if you compare thier performance in the wet and that I think make them drivers that follow other drivers in dirty air as well.
Persons are saying that the new Regs will be detrimental to the likes of Lewis, but Lewis is one of the few drivers I have seen in this Era of Formula 1 who has been able to follow very closely for a high number of laps despite the dirty air and that alone can force drivers into mistakes... Even experienced drivers like Alonso.
I think the 2022 rules will help all but definitely help Lewis a lot.
Very good explanation!
I sim race but I'm ~2 sec off the pace of the aliens. But if you watch Aliens drive, even though they are within 0.1, you notice how different their driving style are. Some are so smooth with the wheel, some drivers looks like they "throw" the car into a corner with fast motion of the wheel. And their use of the pedals are different too. (They "need" a different setup to achieve this.) But, as I said, they are doing laps within +/-0.1. So I get what Peter was trying to explain. There are more ways to get around the track doing same laptimes. You have to watch serious sim like ACC and point of view of these Alien streamers. Examples: Nils, Jardier,...
Lewis was on a totally offset tire strategy. Seb and Ocon were on the same tires at the same times. That's a completely different thing. Hamilton on the same tire with the same number of laps on them could not even properly challenge the Haas. He also had a pretty hard time with Alonso who was on really shot tires. This was not so much about driver excellence, but rather about tire age and strategy. Understeer anticipation is just a part of it.
Would you not include Fernando Alonso in that top tier group?
Nope.
@@jitendrakotak 🤣
@@jitendrakotak lol
Can't even overtake Petrov.
I would absolutely put him in the top tier group
Great video Peter thanks. Very interesting. You mentioned how every era of driver has to adapt to the new conditions of the times. (Stirling and James Hunts ability to use the traffic to their advantage, now Lewis Charles and Max are masters of the dirty air). My question is, with 2022 cars being totally new and for sure the beginning of another new era, what do you think the new skills that drivers will be required to master? Or will it simply be a new era of race craft and defensive strategies with (in theory) everybody able to follow closely.
I completely agree with Peter!! The new regulations will make it harder for viewers to observe and compare the driver quality when racing wheel to wheel or behind in the dirty air.
New regulations never work. Every regulation change causes the same problems just with different teams.
Thier cars fit like a glove🤘🏻 it looks like Its a part of them & they make it look comfortable 🏁
I'm not sure what particularly changed with Lewis after Monza 2018 where he was within 1 - 1.5s of Kimi for a long time which was closer than ever in terms of following from behind as compared to the previous times but ever since then he's gone on to do it for many other races namely, HUN 19, BEL 19, GBR 19, AUS 20, CAN 19, ITA 19, FRA 20 and ESP 20 from what I can remember, he's able to stay there for long periods of time without seemingly damaging the tyres and also being able to keep the tempratures in check. It's been really good to watch coz I remember in 2017 the dirty air seemed like it was way worse than before and that following would be harder from then on. I do wonder if the bigger rear wings that came in in 2019 helped as well but like I said I first took proper note of it in Monza 2018
Yeah , Lewis in hungary 2019 was following max so closely yet still having good tyre life . Have to say, Lewis is very good at following.
I dont know if Lewis changed his style, but in mid 2018 Mercedes fixed a major issue with tyre overheating that had been bothering the team, that probably helped a lot in that regard
Thanks for the education
Hi Peter. good coverage on your videos. I understand you were the lollipop man with William's why did you release Mansell from the pits KNOWING a wheel nut was affixed incorrectly?
I also believe they almost more in tune with the car and are able to manage break temperatures and Tyre temperatures when they follow close allowing them to lose less performance vs other drivers. They still need to back out to cool them off but they don’t ruin the tyres from attempting a move or following.
Thanks Peter for your insightful analysis on which drivers will be more affected for the new tools in 2022. Does it means next season on F1 races, will be more even or competitive between the drivers??.
I think becase the three you mentioned are able to adapt creatively to the situation, they will also adapt and find an advantage in this.
I am intrigued by your description of the corner entry phase … it makes me think of the driving style differences between direct drive and gearbox Karting … I know the current field has drivers who spent their final Karting seasons in either (even both in Max’s case) Do you see any correlation with the “short corner” drivers and previous success in KZ?
A note on your point about the backmarkers, I remember in France 2021, when Charles was desperately trying to keep Daniel Ricciardo behind because of the car eating the tyres, Charles still partly used this "backmarker" technique, but while passing the slower Alfas and Williams who hadn't pit yet, and Daniel Struggled to get past these slower cars which allowed Charles to built a gap of around a second and he held on for 9 or so laps more then he should have with dead tyres.
I like that Peter you are the few that discuss these nuanced detail. All in all, agree, racing and control is all about the feel, balance etc. The same with soccer, cricket or other sports. Some are better that the others. In 2022 the cars will be the same for everyone so Ham, Lec, Max will still be relatively better than the others, if the complexity of overtaking is fully nullefied, then we have a problem. Overtaking will no longer be intresting.
a great example of this is how charles attacked turn 3 in austria a few weeks ago to be close on the run down to 4
Solid analysis but ham's car is at least 1s quicker than any midfield car in any scenario...
So enjoy your insights-Analysis-presentation- trust you’re right - 😎😳
The advantage may water down, but not be gone.
It will just be a closer Race !
I hope everything gets better next year
Speaking about another subject Peter , maybe is just me but I notice the Mercedes with this new kit “upgrade “ it seems very much high rake f1 car now , in the Hungarian Gp I have a picture from the side of the Mercedes and I can say it looks really high rake . Great video once again Peter
It's so hard to tell.
I think it should be compulsary for F1 teams to allow their cars to be photographed in detail so that the fans can see such things.
thank you
@peterwindsor great piece about driver techniques. If I understand correctly you're talking about conventional and more advanced braking techniques, in which also brain capacity and 'feeling' plays a big role. Would you say drivers who tend to brake later (like Sainz) would be more relying on the conventional braking techniques: brake hard in a straight line, turn in and start rolling on the throttle at the apex while straightening the car? While, let's say, Max Verstappen uses trail braking techniques in perfection or a smoother way? Which helps getting more front-end grip for turning in the front earlier?
Next year's cars are bound to have a higher top speed, coming from more sustained acceleration in the 2nd half of a straight. It may be like a double DRS situation now. With less turbulence and overall downforce, a car without DRS may offer the car behind ever less of a tow. But yes, the car behind will be closer at the start of the straight which then makes out breaking easier. The DRS and tow will be worth less though. Follow 4 tenths closer, gain 2 tenths less in DRS and tow?
Question to Peter Windsor: I understand that the 2022 car will not showcase this dirty air ability as much as the current formula. However, will the less turbulent new cars enable Lewis, Max, and Charles to be even quicker? In other words, with a smaller performance deficit from turbulent air, when there is this a deficit to exploit, will the ability to capitalize be even more pronounced? Basically, now few people can get close enough to pass - with the 2022 cars in theory being easier to follow, do you see Lewis, Max, and Charles just blitzing people because they can utilize all these small opportunities? Maybe it would be harder to see on TV, but could the effect be these three constantly passing others (more so than even now) Maybe I’m overthinking - just curious.
oops, i think you just opened a door to a topic that deserves a deeper dive -- what is offered by the 2022 car and how will top drivers exploit its potential? if the skill in the dirty air scenario will no longer be a defining characteristic next year, what will? could there be a novel 5th, or 6th box added to your mastery list? anyway, love your observations, deconstructions and analyses -- my simple list for great journalism.
I've never seen Alonso struggle for long to pass a slower/equal car ahead is possible to pass in the sport today by someone.
It was another era but at the time Vettel never had any issue passing Webber, dunno if it was because that era of cars or that car in particular suited him better or if he just has lost some talent with age, he's miles away from where he once was, he out drove Webber completely and I don't think Webber is a bad driver by any means. Back in those days taller drivers had a big disadvantage by the weight rules, incredible how they didn't fix that until fairly recently..
When Riccardo is agreeing with his car he also doesn't struggle to overtake a slower or even evenly paced car like Verstappen.. Baku 2018, yes they crashed in the end but before that Riccardo passed Max and back and fourth it went.
Drivers that **cannot** pass equally as well as HAM/VER/ALO/LEC IMHO - I'm not saying they are bad just not top tear:
Lando, Bottas, Sainz, Gastly, Ocon, Vettel 2021, Yuki, Stroll, Latifi, Kimi 2021, Antonio, Perez 2021, Riccardo 2021, Mazepin
Equally good also: ? Russel ? - has made too many misstakes however..
At their peak I'd say these WHERE equally good: Vettel, Kimi, Perez and Riccardo but no longer today.
Unknown (rubish car): Mick Schumacher
I head what you are saying about 2022 car. But the transcendental drivers will naturally find another aspect of the car to excel at. They probably won’t know they are doing it but they will.
To me HAM VER LEC will be at the top. I would add ALO to thise. RIC VET will be just short. The rest will be able to drive better but the 2022 car will not dramatically change things. And those machines will look fantastic.
Kimi and Lonso had some Awesome Races this Year! When those two got a better Car they will Win Races!
Can you make a video can age affect your reflexes thinking of the oldest drivers kimi,vettel,alonso,and lewis,can they cope with the reflexes of younger drivers,like max charles, russell etc all a decade younger with eyesight and senses so much younger or does the older drivers make up in experience
the best drivers don't rely on reflexes so they don't wear with age
Thank you, would love to see your analysis on Daniel Ricciardo or what's going on with him at McLaren
Would be interesting for sure. His driving is embarrassing at the moment.
At this point of time it's only Louis who is good at overtaking with these cars no one else not a single person
I would love if you make a video about Micheal Schumacher's driving style
Lewis is okay i think an example is Hungary 2019 Lewis was not able to pass Max without a tire age offset.Great video as always. Can you please make a driving style video of Jaun Pablo
Great video,
but a video about Dani Ricc and his style would be much appreciated Peter.
I mean how many times have we seen Valterri or Max’s teammates get stuck in the pack but Lewis or Max always get through
I agree that those three have a unique talent. Do you think that with the new cars there ability to follow in dirty air will still be show, in that they will be able to make their car actually have even less effect from dirty air so if the car when close is to lose like 18% downforce they will make the car feel like it has lost 5% and be able to attack more. i hope it give them the ability to show true race craft. All the drivers are fast but not all are racers this is not to knock anyone just to show a rare talent.
Wonderful analysis as usual, however, we now saw Carlos beat Charles in his first year at Ferrari so that may have weakened LeClerc’s inclusion in that triumvirate. He needs to show he belongs in that club this year, at the very least by beating his teammate in the new ride. This first race is going to be exciting like Christmas morning opening presents. Who got the good gift and who got the lump of coal? We’ll see who nailed it, lights out in and away we go 😃
Sounds, at least in principle, a little like how people used to say Dale Earnhardt SR could “see” the air coming off of cars around him, and that that’s what made him so good on Superspeedways.
Does the car you drive determine your driving stye? Was Vettel and Alonso's drivng style the same while driving superior cars compared to the cars they drive now? Wouldn't a superior car drive better in dirty air?