Edgar Aetheling wasn't the son of Edward the Confessor, he was his great nephew being the son of Edward the Exile who was a son of King Edmund Ironsides.
@@StoicHistorian Succession to the English throne was by appointment by the Witan, or council of elders. Primogeniture was a Continental model introduced by the Normans.
@@danieltabin6470 Wrong on both counts. Mallorca - with a double L - (in Spanish and Mallorquín) is pronounced "Ma-yorca" or "Mal-yorca". The English name "Majorca" is pronounced "M'jorca". (For what it's worth, Ibiza is "Eebeetha" - not "Eye-beetha" - "chorizo" is "chor-eetho" and "jalapeño" is "khala-penyo" - not "halla-peeno".)
Criman Gothic being an extremely dubious language, leads me to believe the dying Germanic language described in Crimean in the 16th century is actually a descendant of Anglo-Saxon and a Western Germanic language.
Makes a lot of sense actually. After 1066 the majority of the Varangian guard was made up of Anglo-Saxons until it ceased to exist and they still spoke Old English as their first language all that time. They were still speaking old English centuries after it died out and was replaced by Middle English in England, so the language actually survived longer in that area of the world than it did in England. With them also occupying Crimea for a while after winning it back for Alexios it begins to look like you’re onto something.
@@BBeowulf I find the Gothic language itself to be highly dubious, yet alone it's supposed survival on the Crimean peninsula into the 16th century, especially considering we have the far more logical Anglo-Saxon connection to work with.
@@MixerRenegade95 The gap between the settlement of Crimea by Anglo-Saxons and Busbecq's account is some 500 years. That is time enough for the evolution of the language into something far different to Old English, especially in such a foreign environment.
Britonia (Britoña in Hispania), and Brittany (Bretagne in Gaul) were Brythonic enclaves founded because they were fleeing the Anglo-Saxon settlement of Great Britain.
@@user-yz6qu2jr9gthe Basque are Non Indo-European, probably the descendants of the last of the Neolithic farmers of Europe, probably something completely different.
Isn’t there Crimean Germans I wonder if they have any connection to New England ? Also a alternate history where the English go to America instead of crime would be interesting
In that New British Colony of Eastern Europe it would have a connection with Poland and Czechoslovakia due to the WESTERN Slavs who look like Anglo-Saxon Celts and Germanic 🇵🇱🇨🇿🇸🇰➡️🇮🇪🇬🇧🇮🇲🇯🇪🇧🇪🇩🇪🇪🇺
@@gogledholat this point its an open secret that most of NATO believes Ukraine has failed and their focus is turning more to arming themselves over arming Ukraine.
"Glaw-chister"!!? I used to live and work near Gloucester (England), and it's pronounced "Gloster"! Ditto Gloucester, Massachusetts. (I can pronounce "Poughkeepsie", "Arkansas" and "Potomac" correctly too!) I've also heard Americans calling the nearby town of Tewkesbury ("T'yooks-bury") "Twicksburg". 🙄
Alnwick - Annick Aylesbury - Ailsbury Beaulieu - B'yoo-lee Beverley - Bevverlee Bicester - Bister Cholmondeley - Chumlee Frome - Froom Launceston - Lawnston Leicester - Lester Norwich - Norritch (Or "Narrch" as the locals call it.) Penistone - Penniston Warwick - Worrick Memorise all of the above and you could avoid some smirks, knowing looks and possible sniggers (or "snickers" as I believe you call them).
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Fun Fact; Gothic also was still spoken in Crimea up to the 16th century.
Edgar Aetheling wasn't the son of Edward the Confessor, he was his great nephew being the son of Edward the Exile who was a son of King Edmund Ironsides.
oh my bad, he was Edward's Anglo-Saxon succesor which confused me. But now i remember that the confessor had no children
@@StoicHistorian Succession to the English throne was by appointment by the Witan, or council of elders. Primogeniture was a Continental model introduced by the Normans.
@@rolandscales9380but it was typically the eldest son
Epic video, the skaldic bard wrote a song on the english varangians and their journey to nova anglia
Your Majorca pronunciation hurt me a tad but this is a great video, you should have more views! Subbed
oh is it a soft j like zh? and thank you
@@StoicHistorian Its a "Y" sound
@@danieltabin6470 Wrong on both counts. Mallorca - with a double L - (in Spanish and Mallorquín) is pronounced "Ma-yorca" or "Mal-yorca". The English name "Majorca" is pronounced "M'jorca".
(For what it's worth, Ibiza is "Eebeetha" - not "Eye-beetha" - "chorizo" is "chor-eetho" and "jalapeño" is "khala-penyo" - not "halla-peeno".)
Criman Gothic being an extremely dubious language, leads me to believe the dying Germanic language described in Crimean in the 16th century is actually a descendant of Anglo-Saxon and a Western Germanic language.
Yeah I was thinking that as well
Makes a lot of sense actually.
After 1066 the majority of the Varangian guard was made up of Anglo-Saxons until it ceased to exist and they still spoke Old English as their first language all that time. They were still speaking old English centuries after it died out and was replaced by Middle English in England, so the language actually survived longer in that area of the world than it did in England.
With them also occupying Crimea for a while after winning it back for Alexios it begins to look like you’re onto something.
@@BBeowulf I find the Gothic language itself to be highly dubious, yet alone it's supposed survival on the Crimean peninsula into the 16th century, especially considering we have the far more logical Anglo-Saxon connection to work with.
The spelling and structure would have to match Old English though and so far Gothic does not match.
@@MixerRenegade95 The gap between the settlement of Crimea by Anglo-Saxons and Busbecq's account is some 500 years. That is time enough for the evolution of the language into something far different to Old English, especially in such a foreign environment.
Likewise the Welsh migrated to Spain and France when the English invaded England.
I havent heard about that, intresting
Are you just talking about the Basque people
@@user-yz6qu2jr9g no I'm talking about Brittany and Britonia
Britonia (Britoña in Hispania), and Brittany (Bretagne in Gaul) were Brythonic enclaves founded because they were fleeing the Anglo-Saxon settlement of Great Britain.
@@user-yz6qu2jr9gthe Basque are Non Indo-European, probably the descendants of the last of the Neolithic farmers of Europe, probably something completely different.
Great video cheers from Mercia
Thank ya! Appreciate it
Interesting story, never heard of this before, I suppose it's possible
It would have a close relationship with WESTERN Slavs and germánics
Isn’t there Crimean Germans I wonder if they have any connection to New England ?
Also a alternate history where the English go to America instead of crime would be interesting
In that New British Colony of Eastern Europe it would have a connection with Poland and Czechoslovakia due to the WESTERN Slavs who look like Anglo-Saxon Celts and Germanic 🇵🇱🇨🇿🇸🇰➡️🇮🇪🇬🇧🇮🇲🇯🇪🇧🇪🇩🇪🇪🇺
>modern day Ukraine
Not anymore.
Doubtful on that. @@helsby1797
@@gogledholat this point its an open secret that most of NATO believes Ukraine has failed and their focus is turning more to arming themselves over arming Ukraine.
And what if ukraine and the UK SWITCH PLACES?
Ukraine from Odessa to Moscow belonged to Russian empire who conquered it from ottoman, they called the colonies little Russia
I just learnt about this last week and now video you are spooky
So we were the true owners of crimea all along lol
No lol! The Russian empire turned you into serfs and peasants until the Bolsheviks brought revolution
How cool would a movie be
So frickin cool
"Glaw-chister"!!? I used to live and work near Gloucester (England), and it's pronounced "Gloster"! Ditto Gloucester, Massachusetts. (I can pronounce "Poughkeepsie", "Arkansas" and "Potomac" correctly too!)
I've also heard Americans calling the nearby town of Tewkesbury ("T'yooks-bury") "Twicksburg". 🙄
Alnwick - Annick
Aylesbury - Ailsbury
Beaulieu - B'yoo-lee
Beverley - Bevverlee
Bicester - Bister
Cholmondeley - Chumlee
Frome - Froom
Launceston - Lawnston
Leicester - Lester
Norwich - Norritch (Or "Narrch" as the locals call it.)
Penistone - Penniston
Warwick - Worrick
Memorise all of the above and you could avoid some smirks, knowing looks and possible sniggers (or "snickers" as I believe you call them).
haha my bad, English place names are a little hard to wrap my head around, but can you pronounce Pittsburgh like a true American? lol
I blame English spelling for this mess
@@StoicHistorian very easy , our grasp of pronunciation isnt as limited , due to you know, being the native speakers of the ENGLISH language
There's also London river and susaco (Sussex) in modern day Novorossiysk in Krasnodar krai
Here again 😄
0:40 I’m pretty sure Crimea is apart of Russia now.
Cringe
@@ErwinHistory Cope