Göring the Peacemaker? The Secret 1939 Plot

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  • @malakasquad2214
    @malakasquad2214 ปีที่แล้ว +725

    Once again, we realize just how complicated the whole story of this war is, and how many facts could have turned out differently.
    Thank you, Dr. Felton!

    • @wirelessone2986
      @wirelessone2986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SO the Allies bungled a "get rid of Hitler" peace deal...just great

    • @MUFFINHEAD1985
      @MUFFINHEAD1985 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Exactly what I thought. You never have the full picture.

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have the picture they gave us. Churchill’s in that one too as the main actor they also stole the original, the black and white one, remember during Covid from the hotel? Too bad they didn’t open the Churchill files yet which is going to tell you guys everything you didn’t know. More in line with the truth about what really happened there, as Rudolph Hess did the Spandau Ballet….

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do admire how you state facts with such conviction and how those facts could’ve turned out differently. That’s interesting. Just interesting; not factual at all (that’s not a fact, either). Fact.

    • @wirelessone2986
      @wirelessone2986 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@marionapoleoni4502 You make no sense at all..is English your primary language?

  • @georgeo2664
    @georgeo2664 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    Because of this channel, I became a history major.

    • @dylanwhite3383
      @dylanwhite3383 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Congratulations

    • @Mrs.IndiYoung
      @Mrs.IndiYoung ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Congratulations!

    • @DustyPazner
      @DustyPazner ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh yeah!? Well uhh im a colonel!

    • @OCShortsMan
      @OCShortsMan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good for you, keep learning

    • @paranoidandroid6095
      @paranoidandroid6095 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      why....why did you have to ruin your life

  • @FireMedicJason
    @FireMedicJason ปีที่แล้ว +1509

    Anyone else wish Dr. Felton would just make a 10 hour long WW2 documentary? 😂

    • @lablackzed
      @lablackzed ปีที่แล้ว +15

      👍

    • @mwheeler138
      @mwheeler138 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      10 hrs? Ha! He's already gotten that beat on this here channel! Mark Felton is a gem.

    • @jameshair4082
      @jameshair4082 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      No, I would rather have nice small tasty tapas dishes than an indigestible 10 hour banquet.

    • @stc3145
      @stc3145 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      His books

    • @blvp2145
      @blvp2145 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I would give good money for that

  • @1RadicalDreamer
    @1RadicalDreamer ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Dr. Felton….. i hope you never stop
    doing what you’re doing, you’re an absolute gem to people who love history.

    • @Ken-fh4jc
      @Ken-fh4jc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Easily the best history channel on TH-cam. Simple, to the point, no hype.

  • @dougearnest7590
    @dougearnest7590 ปีที่แล้ว +534

    It's interesting to think about how well-regarded Göring - the aristocratic WW1 flying ace - might be today had he deposed Hitler and made peace with the Western Allies at just the right time in history.

    • @jagdtiger7094
      @jagdtiger7094 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      A.H never wanted war with England. For some reason he somewhat admired the country.

    • @CletusCorpse-Raiser
      @CletusCorpse-Raiser ปีที่แล้ว +59

      The allies literally turned on each other afterwards. Instead of Germany, it was the Soviet Union and so on. The war was pointless as it never ended anything. Other countries had human experimentations and such.

    • @maizie9454
      @maizie9454 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      deposed... a friendly way of saying killing hitler. so many cards that could have been played. and it seems the wrong ones always won out

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yes and think of how well regarded anyone who deposed Churchill would be.

    • @focusingbeauty
      @focusingbeauty ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Except for Poland. We would've been just as f***ed, just from the other side.

  • @Henry_Jones
    @Henry_Jones ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Naturally the common people don't want war . . . but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or parliament or a communist dictatorship. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
    -Hermann Goring
    Very true words that americans should listen to.

    • @gottwyCZ
      @gottwyCZ ปีที่แล้ว +31

      That sums up current Russian propaganda pretty well.

    • @Henry_Jones
      @Henry_Jones ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@gottwyCZyou mean anti-russian propaganda lol

    • @MrDino1953
      @MrDino1953 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Putin obviously learned from Goering.

    • @Henry_Jones
      @Henry_Jones ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@MrDino1953 what about LBJ and GWB? Gulf of Tonkin and WMDs true? Nope. They played the Goring card.

    • @jonathanj.7344
      @jonathanj.7344 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@MrDino1953 At least Russians know if they're male or female.

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Glad Dr. Mark still has fun doing YT after 5 years, its a vibe to listen to more WW2 lore

    • @SINfromPL
      @SINfromPL ปีที่แล้ว +7

      bruh, 2 million subscribers, he makes more money than any job he has ever worked

    • @Albert-Arthur-Wison225
      @Albert-Arthur-Wison225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SINfromPLWhat on earth does ‘ bruh ‘ mean ?

    • @SINfromPL
      @SINfromPL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Albert-Arthur-Wison225 it means "my friend"

    • @Riceball01
      @Riceball01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SINfromPL That's debatable since the number of subscribers doesn't necessarily have any bearings on one's success, or lack there of, on TH-cam. How much money you make on TH-cam has a lot more to do with the type of content you produce with many of the more successful TH-camrs producing what could be called nonsense that don't require a ton of research or high production values. Many TH-camrs, particularly history oriented TH-camrs face a lot of scrutiny from TH-cam, often get demonetized, and have been seeing sharp declines in ad revenue which means they're not getting paid as much. So given all of that , I wouldn't necessarily assume that he's making a lot of money off of this and his other channel. And for all we know, TH-cam could just be his side hustle to supplement his main income doing something else.

    • @nonesiste
      @nonesiste ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Albert-Arthur-Wison225racist question

  • @scotttyson607
    @scotttyson607 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Absolutely incredible that this plot remained secret for so long. There must be several embarrassing details involving high ranking British officials.

    • @jackprecip5389
      @jackprecip5389 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The last 400 years of high ranking British officials is an embarrassment.

    • @watching99134
      @watching99134 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Also that the Swedes don't publicize more of it, probably they don't want people to know how much money they made off the war.

    • @Makak0007
      @Makak0007 ปีที่แล้ว

      Swedes keep very low profile, just like Swiss banks do till these days.
      There is a lot of mess hidden under the carpet...

  • @jimhoffmann
    @jimhoffmann ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Bravo! I never heard of this before, Dr. Felton.

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah right Hoffman you’re on the inside just kidding I wish I was

  • @watchesandcoins.7738
    @watchesandcoins.7738 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Goering is by far one of WW2s most wild card and open ended figures.

    • @jyearr6744
      @jyearr6744 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I definitely agree. I feel he didn't share the beliefs of the party, he just wanted the fame, status and power.

    • @watchesandcoins.7738
      @watchesandcoins.7738 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@jyearr6744 Highly self driven.

    • @gumdeo
      @gumdeo ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He liked the good life.

    • @watchesandcoins.7738
      @watchesandcoins.7738 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@gumdeo at the expense of others.

    • @TPTGopher
      @TPTGopher ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I've long believed the best chance for a Nazi victory would've been the death of Hitler in the last week of June 1941...too late to uninvade the Soviet Union, but at a point where Führer Göring's lazy ass would've OK-whatevered potential policies geared towards recognizing the fact that, given the right incentives (let's not forget that, until they reached Russia proper, Ukrainian and Baltic locals were far more likely to view the Wehrmacht as liberators than invaders), countless Soviet subjects would've joined forces with the Nazis faster than you can say "Kill Stalin".

  • @cosmicdisaster02
    @cosmicdisaster02 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Please never ever change the intro! It gets me jamming everytime😂

  • @eziio3
    @eziio3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Always a good day when Lord Felton uploads

  • @peterstephens733
    @peterstephens733 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The peace negotiations at this time are the elephants in the room about WW2 .This is a rich and fascinating seam of history to mine into Mark. All the best and thank you for your hard work 😊😊😊

  • @Penekamp11
    @Penekamp11 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Your videos are always informative, concise, and succinct, unlike so many TH-cam videos that drone on and on.

    • @JaneEva
      @JaneEva ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ...and I love, too, that they never have that low, manipulative music in the background that makes a video unwatchable to me! Just plain facts and great narration. Keep up the great work!

  • @pablocruise9514
    @pablocruise9514 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I've read a lot of WWII books and watched a bunch of WWII videos and I've never heard about this. This is mind-blowing!

    • @watching99134
      @watching99134 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Half the commenters literally say something alone those lines about each of Dr. Felton's videos.

  • @mwheeler138
    @mwheeler138 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Just in the past 2 - 3 weeks of watching this channel ive learned so much. There are books and articles that Im now looking into to expand my knowledge on the topics I've found here. THIS is what History Channel used to be.

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hitler was an alien.
      Also he build the pyramids.

    • @henriklarssen1331
      @henriklarssen1331 ปีที่แล้ว

      Give TIK history a shot, another great WW2 channel.
      Both are way more detailed and interesting then anything you can find in our media.

    • @Rusty_Gold85
      @Rusty_Gold85 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait until you go back 4-5 years worth of his Research - The Professor is really good

  • @awtizme
    @awtizme ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Wherever there's appeasement, Lord Halifax is never far away

    • @bigfish92672
      @bigfish92672 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wherever there are War Crimes, Winnie, FDR, and Truman are never far away

    • @Napolean46
      @Napolean46 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bigfish92672 not applicable sorry.

    • @Napolean46
      @Napolean46 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bigfish92672war crimes are associate with nazis not allies. Allies came to liberate Europe and the world from Nazism and militarism

  • @theblissfulinterzone7510
    @theblissfulinterzone7510 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a history major, these marvelous videos show me that WW2 had so many deeper and fascinating layers to its narrative that school textbooks and the history channel skip over to focus on the larger, more commonly known events. Thanks, Dr. Felton

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes the real history is totally different from the trash you see in propaganda films.

  • @davidrpriest
    @davidrpriest ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Rudolf Hess's flight to the UK was a peace mission in my opinion. I would love for Dr. Felton to do a video on this. Lots of information on this out there.

    • @boblennox9251
      @boblennox9251 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was it not to Lord Halifax that his mission was directed?

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hess did it on his own. It was half-baked.

    • @Smudgeroon74
      @Smudgeroon74 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Outlier999 untrue. Hess went on that mission to Britain because he had hoped to link up with some people(associates of Duke of Hamilton) he knew in Scotland and it was all arranged but his Cessna somehow ended up on the wrong flight path in Scotland. Rudolf Hess had the full blessing of Adolf Hitler..

    • @paulbeesley8283
      @paulbeesley8283 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@boblennox9251I think it was the Earl of Hamilton (but he never got to see him.)

    • @paulysewad1869
      @paulysewad1869 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deep diving the complexities

  • @catherine59226
    @catherine59226 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    You have a stunning channel! You put an incredible amount of work and research into each video. Thank you.

  • @Clipgatherer
    @Clipgatherer ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A Swedish acquaintance of Göring’s, Birger Dahlerus, is known to have travelled between Berlin and London several times, in order to prevent war from breaking out. His efforts were fruitless.

  • @nodarkthings
    @nodarkthings ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely fascinating, Dr. Felton. Thank you.

  • @AFGuidesHD
    @AFGuidesHD ปีที่แล้ว +56

    "Halifax was an appeaser".... yeah, that's not the impression Joseph Kennedy got when he reported "England is advising France that they should both go to war regardless of Poland" after a conversation with him

    • @newmeadam
      @newmeadam ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It was never about giving things away... it was always about buying time to get ready.

    • @isidroramos1073
      @isidroramos1073 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@newmeadam No, it was't. There was absolutely no need to buy time in 1935, when Germany was disarmed but Britain chose to sign the Anglo-German Naval Agreement without even consulting anyone, not even the French or the Italians, both signatories of the Versailles Treaty. That was most certainly giving things away... and as the Treay allowed Germany to build a fleet almost as big as the French or the Italian, and also to concentrate its rearmament on land forces, it's quite difficult not to define it as cold blood treachery, That was the first and probably the worst example of appeasement, and it was so much a choice that it's no wonder the Germans expected it to lead to an Anglo-German Alliance against France and the Soviet Union.

    • @lloydchristmas1086
      @lloydchristmas1086 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Its all about money...not defending other countries. The leaders want any excuse to go to war to fill their pockets with war industrialists money.

    • @AndrewAMartin
      @AndrewAMartin ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@lloydchristmas1086I think you have that backwards - industrialists manipulate the politicians to push for war, so they can siphon national treasuries into their pockets. Socialize the costs, privatize the profits...

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@isidroramos1073 The UK by 1935 saw a lot of the provisions of Versailles as unjust. And seeing the AGN as appeasement is only really true with hindsight. The UK of the time saw it as trying to correct an injustice in a controlled environment.

  • @alinapopescu872
    @alinapopescu872 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sir Peter Ustinov's father was the press attache of the German embassy in London. A meeting was held in his apartment, with German generals among the participants, which was also an attempt to reach a peace agreement, while "I was at the movies," writes Sir Peter in "Dear Me." The story is worth telling, I believe.

  • @jonclassical2024
    @jonclassical2024 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dr. Felton packs more detail and facts into 8 minutes than anyone, cheers!

  • @TheSoundOutside
    @TheSoundOutside ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Felton hits another one out of the park. For WWII aficionados, it doesn't get any better than this.

  • @jourwalis-8875
    @jourwalis-8875 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, Dr Felton, from a faithful viewer in Sweden!

  • @brucelowe3391
    @brucelowe3391 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always Dr. Felton does our home work. Thank you.

  • @christopherscarpino8994
    @christopherscarpino8994 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An incredible story. In all my years of studying the war, I have never heard of these negotiations.

  • @dasboot5903
    @dasboot5903 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMG !!!!
    Thank U dr. Felton very much !!!!
    Göring - before the war broke out .... was a frequent visitor in the II Republic of Poland. He was seing a lot of people during his hunting in the Polish forest.

  • @matthewshipley739
    @matthewshipley739 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Everyday you find out more and more about the past and such things are honestly astounding to hear!

  • @scumskimmer
    @scumskimmer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr. Felton, you astound me yet again! I never knew about the Beamish family connection to Goering. I live in Cork, where their stout brewery was, and it is a completely hidden history

  • @ThreeLittleBirds111
    @ThreeLittleBirds111 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've learned so much history through watching Dr, Felton's easy-to-absorb, informative videos. Thank You so much, it's always exciting to see a new one come out....

  • @asya9493
    @asya9493 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another excellent video and probably another 100 kids around the world who have just made their minds up to study history. Thank you Dr. Felton !

  • @rogersheddy6414
    @rogersheddy6414 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Actually,this appears to be the best possible alternate World War 2 plot line that any one could possibly pursue.
    Had Göring actually been entertained in this,and had he bumped Hitler off, I could see a potential where the Russians in Germans could have eventually been fighting each other over what they had already taken.but that,without the. Rest of Europe being involved until it was clear that 1 side or the other was going to overwhelm the other.

  • @Willigula
    @Willigula ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Again, I am floored by Dr. Felton. I had never heard of this.

  • @johnubieta8857
    @johnubieta8857 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just when you think you know everything there is to know about WWII, in comes new information giving a completely different perspective of how things really developed. You always hear about how Göring was always sidelined and this video gives you a clearer reason why. Mr. Felton never disappoints with fresh, new and credible insight.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lots of things we don’t know and locked away

  • @christiancolson
    @christiancolson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, Dr. Felton. The history of WW2 never fails to fascinate and surprise.
    It's a shame that we will all have to wait so long for the archives to give up their secrets.
    Keep up the good work.
    😊

  • @CigarAttache
    @CigarAttache ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The mystery of the Hess flight and his imprisonment tell his death always struck me as very odd.

    • @keithcitizen4855
      @keithcitizen4855 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This story dovetails into it - both Hess and Goring had aquantences in Scotland it seems from this video

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hess was an odd person. :D

    • @shirleybalinski4535
      @shirleybalinski4535 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This video makes you wonder if this was a 2nd attempt for peace with Hess providing cover for Goering( saving face) or perhaps at the instigation of Goering( and/ or others) with Hess as the Fall Guy in case of failure.

    • @margen9328
      @margen9328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, and I always wondered.
      Hess was a very high ranking member of the NSDAP and everything. Fine.
      But, when he went to the UK, the...full atrocities of full blast war and warcrimes were yet to come.
      Hess was, by that time, emprisoned and not in any position to order/commit any of this.
      Prison ? Yeah, maybe. I guess.
      But LIFE in prison (even if a very comfortable one) ? What had he done personnaly to get a life sentence ?

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@margen9328 As a certain monk says in the song ...."Oh those Russians".
      The west wanted to release Hess for decades, but the Soviets blocked it every time the subject was raised.
      It could be argued that Hess didn't even deserve prison. Once the Nazi's were in power, Hess very quickly became irrelevant. He really didn't affect policy at all. He only kept his (powerless) post because he was one of the 'alte kampfer'. Any power he had was usurped by Bormann.

  • @MiguelLopézdeSagredo
    @MiguelLopézdeSagredo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another little known fact from WWII presented in a very concise and informative format. Thank you, Dr. Felton.

  • @carlosfaliveni2442
    @carlosfaliveni2442 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still learning ww2 histoy, thank you Mark Felton.

  • @doughoback5226
    @doughoback5226 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such great content. You never fail to bring something new, either a story like this that I had never heard or new and interesting facts to stories that have been told. Thank you Dr. Felton!

  • @Czechbound
    @Czechbound ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Goring seems like the poster boy for "In it for me". I imagine his greed for material treasures would have been monumental has he seized power

  • @doigkundtz3503
    @doigkundtz3503 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely love what Mark Felton posts. These videos have certainly changed some of my thoughts about the war. Plus I’ve learned quite a lot. Thank you Mr. Felton for making these videos.

  • @SnoopReddogg
    @SnoopReddogg ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't get the thought of Big Herman playing tennis out of my mind.

  • @classifiedsecret6383
    @classifiedsecret6383 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had no prior knowledge of this! Thank you for yet another excellent vid.

  • @jonathanswifter2807
    @jonathanswifter2807 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A video on the purported German-Soviet peace feelers in 1942-43 would be a natural followup video.

  • @JackKlumpass
    @JackKlumpass ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Mark’s videos. Ive not spent years reading the literature so grateful to him for the in depth knowledge and focus.

  • @SevereWeatherCenter
    @SevereWeatherCenter ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Really like your videos Mark, very informative, and the coolest intro video ever.

    • @ChineseChicken1
      @ChineseChicken1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of the few intros that don't annoy me.

  • @slick4401
    @slick4401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating subject. This channel is a gem.

  • @finallydone8640
    @finallydone8640 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    It would be so good to see Dr Felton do a series like The World at War ,and he wouldn't even need Lawrence Olivier to narrate it

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah WW1 doesn't have the SECRET NAZI PLOT or SECRET NAZI BUNKER or EVIL NAZI PLAN that WW2 has for Dr Felton to clickbait with.

    • @ChristopherNFP
      @ChristopherNFP ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok Boomer ! 👏 👏 👏 👏

  • @TerryC69
    @TerryC69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark, the hits just keep on coming! Excellent!

  • @MistressKarma6969
    @MistressKarma6969 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I INSTANTLY HIT THE LIKE BUTTON BEFORE EVEN WATCHING. I ALREADY KNOW ITS GONNA BE FIRE . TY MARK KEEP EM COMING❤❤

  • @MrLemonbaby
    @MrLemonbaby ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Mark. This vid had me turning and looking out the window for a couple minutes... so close and yet so far.

  • @markymark3075
    @markymark3075 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The class dynamic in Hitlers Germany is very interesting. More please!

  • @tez6693
    @tez6693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible research work. Thanks Dr Felton.

  • @iakona23
    @iakona23 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Speaking of Sweden and spying, the William Holden film The Counterfeit Traitor is based on a true story and it is a great film!

    • @QED_
      @QED_ ปีที่แล้ว

      IMDb rating: *7.5* (!)

    • @codylarkhart261
      @codylarkhart261 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imdb is flawed at times. Personal Satisfaction is all that matters really@@QED_

    • @DavidHamburg-i5d
      @DavidHamburg-i5d ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good grief. Was William Holden ever in a bad movie?

    • @iakona23
      @iakona23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DavidHamburg-i5d He was in a lot of good movies. There must be some mediocre or bad films he was in though.

  • @joeeagles7528
    @joeeagles7528 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Many thanks for watching...". Many thanks for bringing us this! Very fascinating

  • @Studio-62
    @Studio-62 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting that Goering never mentioned this during his trial at Nuremberg. I suppose he knew he was doomed anyway and preferred to save face in front of his fellow defendants.

    • @andrewhart6377
      @andrewhart6377 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe is was mentioned, but hushed up ?

  • @PanzerdivisionWiking
    @PanzerdivisionWiking ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So close to 2 Million Subscribers! Great upload as always. You always know you’re going to get a well researched mini doc from Mark Felton!

  • @garylangley4502
    @garylangley4502 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow! An amazing story. WW2 was not so cut and dry as a lot of people make it out to be.

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Absolutely not. Its crazy how many alternate scenarios there could be based on any number of diplomatic movements. Due to the result of the war the masses have been told that it was some unique Hitler war of conquest, when actually he never even wanted to invade Poland and even offered to protect Polish rights in Danzig. Meanwhile from 1795-1918 Britain couldn't care less weather Poland was on a map or not.

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AFGuidesHD they didn’t care about. What about in 1945 did they care that year? Or was it just 39 to 44? What do you think?
      All right, so that means it’s fine that Stalin went into Poland from the East End and killed 20,000 officers dude
      I may have missed read your thing I probably did .

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AFGuidesHD Poland got bent over by uncle Joe with a small pox acne
      Even worse by Churchill, what did Roosevelt say “these things tend to figure themselves out” let it be or something . he wrote let it be before the other guy did.
      Trademark AF guy HD, Adolf Hitler guy his page 2023 he wrote this I guess .
      “Let It Be” words from FDR inspired by every town named Berlin and to the east
      “When I find myself surrounded by Mongols
      mother MarEe comes to me
      telling me she’s been raped a few times
      let it be
      And in my DARKEST HOUR… um
      There is still a light that shines on me
      Auschwitz has new spot lights
      Let it be”
      Can somebody pin this to the top Dr. Mark please thank you if possible

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@marionapoleoni4502 Yeah they didn't care at all. I think Vansittart was probably the most honest about wanting to fight Germany to prevent them from being too powerful. Britain and certain hawkish figures only wanted Poland to fight Germany as an Eastern Front. Noel Mason-MacFarlane exquisitely says as much in his letter to the British Cabinet in March where he says "war, and war now with a near eastern front". Due to this the Brits had to prevent Poland from making a deal with Germany otherwise there'd be no Eastern Front.

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AFGuidesHD very interesting thank you

  • @mriamilne
    @mriamilne ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb as always. Dr Felton is peerless. Ty for what you bring via this channel.

  • @rumpstatefiasco
    @rumpstatefiasco ปีที่แล้ว +6

    EXCELLENT video.
    I am riveted by all things Goring.
    He had a Smith & Wesson .38 revolver (Model 10) and a Swedish wife.
    He liked big cats.
    So far, so good. Then he created the Gestapo, and I became disappointed in his choices.
    Memento Ac Liberare Gonzalo Lira.

    • @montanacorp
      @montanacorp ปีที่แล้ว

      wtf

    • @rumpstatefiasco
      @rumpstatefiasco ปีที่แล้ว

      @@montanacorp
      Whiskey I like.
      Not a dancing man though.

  • @mitchmatthews6713
    @mitchmatthews6713 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You never fail to amaze me, Mark. Cheers!

  • @travisbeck8184
    @travisbeck8184 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never stop learning thanks to Dr. Felton and his wonderful videos. It’s true, sir! You have the best videos. I appreciate the photos. Thank you.

  • @whateveritwasitis
    @whateveritwasitis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After all these years i am simply in Awe of the content this man continues to churn out. and not garbage, high quality interesting stuff from day one. I had zero idea that fat Goering had done this.

  • @stefanschleps8758
    @stefanschleps8758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is due to videos like this one that we acclaim this channel to be the top dog history channel for all things military, especially for WWII. Extraordinary! Excellent work Professor Felton! Kudos are in order! Brilliant expose!
    And again, thank you for sharing!

  • @jimmybritt9537
    @jimmybritt9537 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very interesting part of history 👍👍🇺🇸

  • @parasuraman1155
    @parasuraman1155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative and interesting video. Thanks Dr. Felton.
    (The entry tune is so captivating).

  • @daverage4729
    @daverage4729 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never ceases to surprise me what facts I pick up from this channel. Always thought it was Himmler that created the Gestapo. Never knew it was Goring! Or that he had Anglo Irish connections to 'Beamish' through his first wife.

  • @joerussell9574
    @joerussell9574 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dr. Felton! I learn many things from You that others either skim over or never mention! Thanks again!

  • @afternoobtea914
    @afternoobtea914 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Göring was here where I live for rehabilitation. During his visit here there where two flagpoles outside the facility (nowadays a school). One with the swedish flag and one with the nazi flag. Here is in southern Sweden in a village called Ryssby.

  • @nozrep
    @nozrep ปีที่แล้ว

    really is fascinating some of these obscure niches and corners and details of history. That is why I watch! I love it so much!

  • @Martin-qd8pm
    @Martin-qd8pm ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is strange to me that the British were so hesitant to accept Görings offer or to at least explore it further. The same situation when the plotters of 20. July approached the British for support. This was also turned down. One could suspect that there were significant lobbys in Britain who had an interest in an ongoing war with Germany. I think it is a similar situation with the war in Ukrain today. Weapons are hesitantly delivered to keep the war going, instead of supplying everything needed so that the Ukrain can win quickly.

    • @celtspeaksgoth7251
      @celtspeaksgoth7251 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nazis never kept their word. Anyone agreeing to their latest 'deal' would be considered a fool and treated as such. Sooner or later they would suffer the consequences of appeasement, e.g. the Molotov-von Ribbentrop Non Aggression Pact.

  • @obiemichaels9675
    @obiemichaels9675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love every one of these videos. Mark Felton is the David Attenborough of history.

  • @lars-goranwillny42
    @lars-goranwillny42 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @0:37: Price Gustaf Adolf was NOT the crown prince of Sweden. His father, Gustaf Adolf, son to king Gustav V, was the crown prince of Sweden. However, when the time had to come, crown prince Gustaf Adolf, married to Louise Mountbatten, had suggested to "step aside" from being king in favor of his son, Gustaf Adolf, to become the King of Sweden, and his wife Sibylla of Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha to become queen of Sweden.
    This did not occur though prince Gustav Adolf was killed in an KLM aircraft accident at Copehagen Airport on January 26, 1947.
    Hence his father, Gustaf Adolf had to remain crown prince until October 29, 1950 when his father king Gustaf V died, and hence Gustaf VI Adolf and queen Louise became the royal couple of Sweden.

  • @Dustin_Bins
    @Dustin_Bins ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your continued efforts Dr. Felton, I agree with others in the comments that you have taught all of us very interesting facts and details that are almost unknown to most.

  • @r2gelfand
    @r2gelfand ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So, Rudolf Hess' mission was not that far fetched.

  • @EstOptimusNobis
    @EstOptimusNobis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent research Professor Felton!!

  • @Deceiver85
    @Deceiver85 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Some swedish trivia: "Bonde" translates to Farmer, making Baron Farmer 🙃

  • @hangin-in-thereawesome4245
    @hangin-in-thereawesome4245 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't stop with your great videos! I have learned so much from them! They are the best!

  • @axeljacobs9723
    @axeljacobs9723 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always love the „mother-in-law music“ at the beginning! Scary stuff!!!🤣😂🤣

    • @nandi123
      @nandi123 ปีที่แล้ว

      MIL music!!! Love it!!!🤣

  • @stephenbridges2791
    @stephenbridges2791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of intrigue to go around. Always amazed at that.

  • @rwdyeriii
    @rwdyeriii ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anyone else wish that Dr. Felton would just make a Month by Month series on WW1 and WW2 like Indy Neidell did with his week by week series?

  • @johnjacobs1625
    @johnjacobs1625 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many Thanks for Sharing Dr MarK! Cheers JJ

  • @timbliss9587
    @timbliss9587 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, but could you tell us what the terms of the peace agreement were supposed to be?

  • @glenvillephillips8293
    @glenvillephillips8293 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love marks videos just wish they were much longer he's the best.

  • @jjeherrera
    @jjeherrera ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interesting story. How does this relate to Hess' flight to Britain?

  • @danielbeck9191
    @danielbeck9191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU for this fascinating video!!! Reality is often far more convoluted than what is described in the standard textbooks!

  • @unionjack8463
    @unionjack8463 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Does this peace proposal give some underlying rationale to the 'Phony war' period when there was a sense that both sides although at war and building defenses did not quite want to get into what became WW2 that we know now? Halifax seems to have been reserved and was replaced by Churchill. This video suggests Halifax was open to possibilities.

    • @jonathancampbell5231
      @jonathancampbell5231 ปีที่แล้ว

      The "Phony War" story often leaves out that France actually invaded Germany early on, but was stalled by poor tactics and German defences, and so the decision controversially made to pull back.

  • @tausifnazim5048
    @tausifnazim5048 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mark Felton on fire.

  • @Chris89892
    @Chris89892 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've studied Goering extensively and had no idea that he was involved in peace overtures at this late stage of the war. Excellent find, Mark.

    • @olasek7972
      @olasek7972 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Late stage? You clearly misunderstood, the topic of this video is very early stages of the war, 1939

  • @phillipstephens3079
    @phillipstephens3079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done sir…more precise information giving such insight 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @akula9713
    @akula9713 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    In Hitlers last will and testament, he mentions the many attempts to make peace with Britain. What happened?

    • @lenny7773
      @lenny7773 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Certain parties wouldn't allow it

    • @DT-wp4hk
      @DT-wp4hk ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The ones owning the British treasury?

    • @Iskelderon
      @Iskelderon ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The thirst for an unconditional victory over Germany, no matter the millions of people who'd die until then.

    • @keithcitizen4855
      @keithcitizen4855 ปีที่แล้ว

      What happened? well he did bomb Britain , I wonder about Galland who said same as you

    • @Iron_Wyvern
      @Iron_Wyvern ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The British REALLY wanted a war. Churchill was a fanatic.

  • @1990-t1j
    @1990-t1j ปีที่แล้ว

    I have learned more about the war from this channel than from any other source. Nick J

  • @troelshansen2656
    @troelshansen2656 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Hitler was never interested in a war with the west, but knew a war with ussr was inevitable

    • @gamerxt333
      @gamerxt333 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That explains why he invaded western countries like France....d'oh.

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@gamerxt333 What do you expect the Germans to do once the French declared war? The can't pull off something like the Japanese vis-a-vis the Polish declaration. 'Oh we know you don't mean it and are being pressured by your allies. We'll just ignore it and pretend you never did it' simply wouldn't work.
      I'm not saying the French were the instigators (they clearly weren't), but once war was started, if you can't end it diplomatically, then invasion is the only option.

    • @haroldkreye8770
      @haroldkreye8770 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gamerxt333In the aftermath of WWI, France oppressed Germany. I’m also sure French arrogance was a factor. Paris is fortunate that it wasn’t leveled.

    • @johnnyb2909
      @johnnyb2909 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@gamerxt333
      Hitler was surprised that france and england declared war on Germany, and they sent Rudolf Hess aswell in the hope to get peace with britain

    • @gamerxt333
      @gamerxt333 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Occident. Even if France did attack first, it wasnt a full invasion like what happened to them, which before Germany invaded, was more like a guessing game and not exactly a true war. And saying "Germany tried to avoid war with the west" is ironic regardless, as they knew there would be a reaction from invading other places because of pre-war alliances.

  • @MonkehMike
    @MonkehMike ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting! Can't say I remeber hearing this before. Thanks Mr. Felton.

  • @danielkrcmar5395
    @danielkrcmar5395 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Having an interconnected aristocratic elite who ruled Europe was far better than the system we have now. Just imagine Dianne Abbott attempting anything like this...

  • @randystolz
    @randystolz ปีที่แล้ว

    Intriguing video😉🤓Ty, Dr Felton, for bringing this to light!!

  • @Grafzee
    @Grafzee ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It would be interesting to know how Goring would be able to effect a coup as Hitler was at the height of his popularity at that time and just removing him from office forcefully would have extreme ramifications throughout the military, the SS, as well as the civilian population. The only way it could have possibly been pulled off would be by assassination without possibly implicating himself in the act. History would definitely be different if had occurred. Very interesting video Dr. Felton, many thanks for posting.

    • @mikaelbohman6694
      @mikaelbohman6694 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, there was a network of anti-Hitler aristocratic high officers in the Wehrmacht who could possibly have effected a coup. But after that, who knows...

    • @xander9564
      @xander9564 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably, Goring would have made Hitler's death look like a tragic accident, and asked Germany to join him in mourning the loss of the great Fuehrer while he stepped in to take over.