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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- In my recent podcast with Jason Walton, we brought his son Josh, who was accused of hate speech, on to share his side of a story that happened almost 2 years ago...
At a Duke vs. BYU volleyball game, a Duke player claimed a BYU fan was yelling racial slurs at her during the match
BYU immediately banned the accused fan from all games and the story made national news, with some teams even cancelling games with BYU.
It eventually came out later that nobody else heard any hate speech, there was a cop standing within earshot of Josh and didn't hear anything, Josh wasn't even in the stands at the time the claims said he was yelling stuff to the player...none of it made sense.
BYU's athletic director Tom Holmoe later appologized and BYU lifted the ban, but I wanted to share this story as it's an important lesson of what happens when we jump to conclusions before getting the whole story.
Just like there should be severe consequences for people who yell racial slurs, there also needs to be serious consequences for those who claim racial slurs when irrefutable video evidence shows it to be false. Otherwise, thoughtless perpetrators will continue to destroy innocent people.
No one should have severe consequences for calling someone a name period. Lunacy
I would sue Duke, the player that made the accusation and the South Carolina head coach until they submitted a very public apology and retraction. And make a very public stink about Governor Cox and demand an apology from him as well, especially during this election cycle. We don’t definitely don’t need him as our next governor.
Duke is in North Carolina
Obviously. The women’s South Carolina head coach came out and made racially biased comments against BYU at the same time as well and cancelled a game against them.
I'm glad that Tom Holmoe called to apologize. Duke, the player and South Carolina who doubled down when there was no evidence should all be ashamed. They made something into less than nothing.
...this is insane...
...I drove out to the BYU-Iowa State football game in Provo last November (2023)...
...before the game, during the game & after the game, I have never been surrounded by, met & talked w/ a more gracious, curteous, & friendly group of fans in my 52 years of attending ISU sporting events...
...I exchanged cell numbers w/ four of the people I sat near...and we're still staying in touch!
...I 've invited them to my tailgate whenever BYU travels to Ames...
...the one guy left w/ about 8:00 minutes left in the game (Cyclones were kicking cougar ass which I was completely surprised by)...he came back about 4 minutes later w/ something in his hand...he said "here ya go, a little something for the drive home"...he gave me a "Cougar Tail"...I couldn't believe it!
...had a nice breakfast w/ my coffee the next morning before I left to head home...
...wanna get out to Provo for a men's & women's basketball game now!
Thank you for your kind words. I am so glad that you enjoyed your time. Sports should be an opportunity to have fun, and shouldn't be a bitter experience. May God protect you in your travels to and from Provo. I hope that you get the chance to see the snow on the Wasatch Front (the mountains) when you do go to Provo.
What a stud! Thanks for the kind words
If any group of people is "gracious, curteous, & friendly" it is those "Mormon nice" folks. No, I am not a Mormon, never have been, and never will be.
as a BYU fan i’m so happy to hear you had a great time here! you definitely got to make it out for a basketball game cause the atmosphere at the MC is incredible
this is so cool and makes me even more proud of the BYU fanbase. Also, I'm jealous...you've attended more BYU (home) games than I have since I graduated.
The demand for racism exceeds the supply
Perfectly said...Modern America is a joke...and we all know where it's coming from
As a lifelong die-hard byu fan and current student, I have no problem admitting byu handled this incorrectly. I understand them trying to act quickly but they jumped the gun and should have waited for further evidence before acting.
Every woke supposedly inclusive diverse company jumped on the BLM bandwagon thus isolating and reversed racism against every other color or race
Dan-ke, current Student.
Dittos
Agreed but what is more upsetting is that the school still hasn't let the ROC back on the floor.
BYU and the governor owe him a massive apology. They should sue
This is an important story that deserves more attention. That young man was and is the victim, and nobody seems to care
I did, and I do, I commented the day after it happened. If it had been my kid everybody that accused him would've been sorry the rest of their lives.
And the South Carolina women’s basketball coach that cancelled the upcoming game with BYU because the school is guilty. To my understanding, she has never retracted any of her comments or opinions.
I do not believe she ever did either. She helped cause this division and thinks it’s perfectly fine to keep it going.
Will Duke University and the South Carolina Women’s head coach (Dawn Staley) ever apologize to BYU and this nice young man? Someone needs to demand an apology… Now!!!
BYU owes this kid an apology too for jumping the gun to banning him with no evidence and contributing to his defamation.
Listened to this while interview yesterday. Thank you so much for sharing. I hope some real lessons are learned from this.
Bless this kid and his family. Such a shit thing to go through and to continue to have to process and manage. Hope this serves as something to strengthen him.
Really ironic that Duke was alleging these “fantastic lies” toward this kid and BYU. The Duke Lacrosse team knows from experience want these false allegations can do. The Netflix special documents it really well.
Thanks for bringing more of this story to light, Jimmy.
You need to go back and research the young lady's (Rachael Richardson) father. It'll become a little clearer on the "why" behind how this happened. He was the guy implementing the DEI elements at the ATF. Her aunt is a political activist in Houston with a history of racial incidents. A little more research can bring out the truth behind the incident.
Interesting. Her parents probably told her byu was racist so she felt scared/sensitive. It happens... Gotta tear down those walls ...
What if the student's father wasn't a large business owner who could leverage expensive lawyers? You know like the rest of us.
Seriously. Very good question
Figures Spencer Cox would say that negative statement - what a jerk he is. - vote anyone but Cox.
He cheated his reelection primary, everyone I know voted for Phil Lyman
When this story first broke, I knew there was no way this could have happened. I was a BYU football season ticket holder for twenty five years and not once did I ever hear someone say something that would make you cringe. The worst you would ever hear was you “Darn boo boo head.” Seriously.
Thank you Josh for telling us what really happened!! So sorry for all that you have gone through with this and the losses in your family!!
Same on you BYU...
The irony of this is rich considering the Duke Lacrosse accusations years ago
Duke Uni. Administration has adopted the Mantra of Diversity Equity & Inclusion which in academe practice translates as Destruction Exclusion & Injustice toward the ' practiced racial North Carolina Hegemony of Critical Race Theory...
I was disappointed in the way BYU handled this. I'm glad Tom apologized
Very thoughful and considered conversation. Thanks for the update. I wish that Jimmy would have been as reasonable and thoughtful about the whole the Tim Ballard thing as he is about this. I guess that working for someone you don't personally like leaves you open to biases.
Ballard is pervert! He needs to humble himself and repent.
I’m mostly just against men that abuse women
Spencer Cox is a phony
I wish this video had more views.
It sucks that happened that to the kid. BYU was wrong and I’m glad the AD apologized I hope they gave you some gifts as well. That is very cool that the volleyball team supported him.
Phil Lyman for Governor. Throw Cox out
A fine young man anybody that hears him speak can tell that he wouldn't use derogatory language
My condolences to his family so much tragedy.
Politics is war and truth is always the first casualty. When an institution, even a church institution, gets into a political fight, the truth suffers. Obviously, BYU did not ask for this, but felt forced to fight back - this poor kid and his family got crushed.
What was the issue about this fathers daughter and his request to release statements about her death? How did BYU mess that story up?
I had the same question.
Governor Cox said a very inappropriate and mean thing about this young man.
Does Jeremy Ever stop talking? Even after he said he “wouldn’t put words in their mouths.”
I’ve been to volleyball games at the Smith Field House as a student and it gets really loud. The issue I have with the story is that in order for Duke players to hear the racial slur the accused would have had to be exceptionally loud meaning other people would have heard the slurs. The physics do not line up, the physics do not lie.
Why wasnt she proscuted or sued for slander?
I’ve been to volleyball games at the Smith Field House and it gets really loud. The issue I have with the story is that in order for Duke players to hear the racial slur the accused would have had to be exceptionally loud meaning other people would have heard the slurs. The physics do not line up, the physics do not lie.
Tom Holmoe is one of the finest men in Utah county and BYU . It is unfortunate how often many of us jump to conclusions in many circumstances . The racial reputation that Utah has in some circles is tremendously unfair. Many of my experiences in life with my friends of color and ethnic origin other than mine , have been dear friends. Lessons to learn all around.
Why does this just sort of randomly end?
That was pretty much the end of the podcast. After that they just wrapped up.
I’m glad you had a guest on so you could repeatedly interrupt him.
This was my thought exactly. Like my gosh
Jimmy is not very polished or professional in his interviewing or communication skills. The content was engaging but Jimmy seemed all over the map and not well prepared to lead this conversation. Thus the annoying interrupting.
He is very believable.
This was obviously handled wrong, but BYU would have been highly criticized had they not immediately done something to address this. They quickly realized it was a false racism charge and quickly apologized to the young man. Seems to me that Jason Walton is trying to use this now for political gain which is appalling.
I get that BYU handled the immediate aftermath poorly (hopefully they've learned something since then) but they deserve credit for ultimately standing up for truth. Unlike Duke university which apparently learned nothing from the Duke Lacrosse incident.
@@byucatch22 Absolutely agree!
Since when have we gotten so fragile that what someone says is so important. I know people say hateful things but we only add fuel to the fire by blowing things out of proportion. It's not right to use hate speech but grow a thicker skin
Gotta assume that the Duke players had heard 'racist rumors" so they started hearing things they feared... It happens. They're cool, happy to have them back anytime, peace :)
Leviticus 16 "scapegoat"
Exodus 20 "false witness"
im not saying all cops are bad, but they need to treat things as innocent until proven guilty. i was about 15 when one of my neighbors garages was broken into, the person stolen some things from their cars and some alcohol from a fridge in the garage. the suspect apparently walked up the street and next to our house, late at night (almost midnight) me and my dad heard a loud knock at the door and it was 2 cops, they informed us about the situation and said that they suspect i was the one who broke in when the entire day i was at home with my parents, the grilled me asking what i’ve been doing today, why i broke in, when they asked that i repeatedly told them it wasn’t me and they said “just be honest we know it was you” and when i asked to see the security camera footage they claimed to have they said it was “none of my business.” i was shaking cause i was so scared and angry, after one cop talked to me and one talked to my dad, (i try to still be nice) i offered to shake the officers hands and one cop said “i don’t shake hands with thieves” and they left. when i got inside i literally fell to the floor crying and having a panic attack. i know all cops aren’t like that but that has always been a traumatic experience for me that i still remember to this day 5-6 years later
This happens far more than one might expect..
Wonder if BYU plays duke or s. Carolina now? If they do they definitely show poor judgment.
I’m friends with Josh, he’s actually a very nice person
BYU administrators always jump the gun in favor of woke BS.
Duke volleyball sucked in the personal integrity department
Hey, at the gym at BYU plays volleyball the students are within only 8 feet maybe of the opposing player serving area. My daughter’s teammate that played against BYU there heard someone yell at her that “ he was going to F-- her up the b-tt.” My daughter played on a full ride DI scholarship and the crap that is said to the girls is usually from the opposing players but her teammates story rings true for me. Say what you want but go back and look at how close the students, non students are to the players serving on one end of BYU’s gym. They are about 8 feet away which way too close to be. That’s been that way for years.
While awful that's not a racist comment and par for the course at most College Campuses across the country. Also this is hearsay.
ha, I wrote up an entire (mostly) reasonable response to this comment but in the end concluded this post must be a troll post. Either way, I wish you well.
the duke kid heard something.
Yeah her imagination. I guess you should believe everything anyone says because nobody ever lies about something like that. Its alright to ruin someone's life too.
No, she saw the scoreboard wanted an excuse
She initially said it was the whole student section chanting it then backed off realized that was impossible. Personally think she misheard "let's go Cougars" to yelling "let's go ....ggers". That's the only thing even close to matching her statements. She grew up in a family completely unfamiliar with BYU or Utah and was anticipating something negative & very different than what BYU is all about. Fear can create an active imagination.
Yeah something that none of her teammates on the court or on the bench heard. It was imaginary.
Yes she heard what she has been conditioned to hear since birth. White man bad, so he must have said something racist!!