Theres a fun example of the level of trust some special Ghouls get from their Kindred masters: On the rare occasions where a child is embraced into Vampirism, they will have one or two ghouls that serve as their surrogate "Parents", this is because even if that vampire has a high rank within their society, or is of a more powerful generation, there are some things they simply cannot do in a childs body and be taken seriously. This example in question was of a Prince's ghoul (the highest up the chain within the localized branches of the Camarilla. Think of a state governor or the mayor of a particularly large city.) The Prince in this situation was a child, so entrusted their ghoul with arranging court and the day to day operations of the Camarilla. It is of note that prior to this none of the vampires of this city knew this was the Prince, as they had everything done through their ghoul as an intermediary. One day, a particularly uppity and stupid vampire within the court struck the Prince's ghoul across the face, because they were tired of listening to someone they (wrongly) thought beneath them. The Prince learned of this, and *in the middle of court, tore the other vampire to shreds in full view of everyone else, the entire time screaming "You hurt my Mommy" until there was nothing left but a red smear on the floor*
Dollars to donuts says the kid was a Toreador. Brujah usually don't Embrace children, but Toreador unfortunately do, and they tend to form stronger attachments to the mortals in their lives than the Ventrue.
Quick Correction to what you just said: that story was from Vampire: The Requiem so it wasn’t a Camarilla prince but Invictus and ghouls have a slightly different status in Requiem in that A ghoul families often have special bonuses and weakness to them, depending on the family and their job in vampire society and B often are considered an extension of their vampire masters will to the extent where a ghoul can sometimes speak on a torpid vampires behalf and a vampire overly abusing a ghoul publicly is kind of considered to be equivalent to a mentally ill person who likes to punch himself in the face according to one story in the Requiem second edition core book
@@maciejas2471 the story the OP mentioned is actually from Requiem and is notable because Requiem Vampires usually don’t sire children as vampires because the last time in history that was common it led to a group of child vampires called the children’s Crusade and the children’s Crusade became very corrupt even by vampire standards. Like corrupt to the point where the other vampire covenants teamed up to wipe them out to the last one. So the child prince in the story is a rare exception to the custom of not embracing children
Don't think anybody has said this yet, but the dog cancer thing is entirely real. It's called TVT, or Transmissible Venereal Tumor. Its a dog cancer that underwent a strange mutation that allows it to spread between different dogs as an STD, or any other skin-to-skin contact. It's one of only three known infectious cancers in mammals, the other two being found in Tasmanian devils and hamsters. Its also quite interesting as, as far as taxonomy is concerned, its still part of the canine family tree! We also know, from the cancer's DNA, that it came from a pre-contact Native American dog. Estimates range between 6,000 and 11,000 years for its original creation. Anyway, I don't necessarily think Big D was trying to compare it to a disease, so much as a mutation that created an organism that, while once human (or in this case, canine) now exists only to perpetuate itself by infecting and hijacking the body of other members of its kind.
I think Ockham can't be a ghoul because his literal solar magic will burn the vampiric blood from his system. He is someone who is the most effective against kindred.
@@jackmack4181my sister suspects the doctor as well, especially given she said she was going to be reading when they left the vault. Reading what? The data, perhaps
It doesn’t make any sense for Ockham to be the Ghoul. If he was he already would have given the data away LONG ago and made his escape. Plus given how he’s a mage (or martial artist of the mystic variety) I don’t see how he would even be put in a position to be Ghouled unless it was willingly.
@@jackmack4181 as long as the rainfall is more than the current volume of any given waterway, it would become a holy river. Also, any pope could theoretically bless an entire ocean.
Blue Rare Steak is the rarest cooking of steak - that is, the closest to 'uncooked'. Raw, red in the center. Generally cooked for a minute on both sides. Should be noted, Beef is actually a very clean meat so long as the animal is not diseased and properly handled. kept at proper temperatures the only part of the meat with bacteria/unhealthy germs is the part exposed to air.
So to clarify, vampires actually don't need to Ghoul animals to control them, although it DOES make them more effective. Imagine a field mouse being able to single-handedly take down a dog and you have a pretty good idea of what kinds of physical changes it can impose, but it also tends to make animals marginally more intelligent and receptive to the commands of the vampire in question. For instance, a vampire could allow a vicious guard dog to bite them and taste their blood, and in the process immediately establish a Blood Bond that would not only have the guard dog treat the vampire like a beloved friend, but also more receptive to their commands and body cues. However, Ghouling an animal doesn't mean it can actually communicate complicated messages unless it was already capable of doing so previously, so a dog might be able to identify friend from foe, but it wouldn't be able to describe them in any appreciable way, whereas something like a chimpanzee or a raven might be able to actually give a report through sign language or pictograms if they have the capacity to do so. This is where the Discipline of Animalism comes in. In its most basic form it mimics the effects of training or the Blood Bond in animals, allowing a vampire to call upon them and direct them with orders through a limited form of telepathy and mind-control. At higher levels, the vampire can communicate with animals, read their thoughts, and even project their minds into animals to control them directly, among other powers. This means that a vampire who has access to Animalism does not need to Ghoul and Blood Bond animals to make them effective spies or guard animals, and they can still Ghoul them regardless to make more effective servants out of them. Animalism is also fairly broad in its applications, allowing vampires to control most non-intelligent creatures quite easily and even influence, say, the Beast of another vampire or the Rage of a werewolf, although these are far more advanced applications. Still, the sky is pretty much the limit with Animalism and it can be frighteningly powerful with the right application of even its most basic forms.
Hell yeah! Awesome that you're finally reacting to this one! Honestly this one certainly goes the hardest out of all HTP audiologs, especially at the end
19:47 It was clarified that they did not "break in". Door dismantled the window professionally without breaking a thing. 49:49 Not most vampires. Only Clan Tremere and the Vaulderie of the Sabbat. 52:26 That's Queen Elizabeth I. 53:25 Also Queen Victoria is not a vampire because she's canonically involved with mages (well the Technocracy but those are more or less mages even if they might not prefer the term). 56:48 He just made them, the dough has to dry for them to be ready to eat. (Also scones are more like small bread than cookies.) 1:10:04 Scones are bread and British food. D was saying how Boy doesn't eat any kind of bread or any kind of British food so has double the reason to not eat scones. 1:19:39 Cordyceps is the "ant zombie fungus" for the record (and the inspiration behind Last of Us).
The true depth of evil, in this video pertains to one particular clan of vampires, the Tzimisces. They are known as the clan of flesh molders with their discipline of vicissitude. Like Ssethzeentach said in his VMT:B video, they sculpted their victims into horrific things, even creating an entire church building out of people
@@Motleydoll123 There is one, actually. The Volgirre, a bloodline of the Toreador who went and joined the Sabbat and learned Vicissitude from the Tzimisce, then many of them quietly slipped back into the Camarilla via the mainline Toreador. They're probably even WORSE than the Tzimisce in some ways. The Tzimisce are generally more apathetic to suffering that sadistic, at least the older ones, they think of the agony and screams of their victims through Vicissitude as simply part of the process or a box to check on a requirement list. They think of the pain of their victims as something to hone in pitch and tenor in the same way a painter wants the perfect shade of a color. The Volgirre, though? They RELISH all the pain and agony they inflict and go out of their way to cause it for entertainment and jollies. They were even the ones who refined a way to enhance the pain receptors of the victim to make it even more agonizing.
- UV light wont work, there was a mission in vampire masquerade bloodline 1 where that was tested (and to this day that game is canon right?). Radiation wont affect a vampire until it is heavy (it act half way between a poison and a burn effect i think). Also the whole sun weakness has no scientific reasoning behind it. Its a curse thrown onto the face of Caine by god itself (or one of his angels) to punish him for the murder of Caine's, Abel. While arch-mage can cure the curse of vampirism, negating their weakness of the sun would either go against the will of all mankind (creature of the night fear the ray of the sun) or the will of God himself. That would result the silly mage being bi***slap into oblivion by all the paradox in the universe. There are some shit in the night you just dont mess with... - The comparison between vampirism and a parasyte CAN be accurate since vampire have a thing called the beast eating at their humanity inside. It is a long term thing, but when vampire gets older than a normal human lifespan, almost all of their mortal family and friends have expired, you must have killed innocents quite a few time to survive and seen many horrors in the dark of the night. After all that, you do feel and act alienated from humanity. See them as nothing but dumb and expandable food. But when you dont, when you feel a link between you and a mortal, you might be tempted to... bring them alone into the night... for company (mouahahahahahaha).
Ear vacuum should be the same as a nose vacuum, basically a liquid dropper like device meant to gently clean an infants ear/nose canal without the risk of injury a rigid tool like a q-tip.
- hummm... the police officier breaking his bond is most likely due to neglect from the Regent not bothering upholding it rather than her not being competent to keeping the maintenance up (did constable whats-its-name mention falling out of favor or was it Kevin?). Could also be a choice, he was in severe withdrawal state but ready to blow up the police station for more vitae, that's one way to keep an employee motivated and she has enough dirt on him to be sure he wont think about overt betrayal... by himself... i can see this work. - New ghoul vs new vampire born from 2 average humans: vampire win 8-9 out of 10. Vampire can heal almost all damage faster than a ghoul can, within a single combat (only 1 of those 2 can re-attach a severed limb). They can soak twice the non-lethal damage and the lethal damage at all (bullet hole mean bleeding for a ghoul with a functioning heart, a vampire will feel some pain AND redirect his attention). Also vampire get 3 time more vampiric power from start than ghoul do. After that... and old ghoul (say decades or century old) vs a new vampire, one who might have been told about vampire powers and weaknesses... now we are going around a ratio of 4-6 out of 10 victory for the new leeche.
@@AmericanBrit9834 Of course. A ghoul at start at "birth" as a day walker "diet vampire", but it also mean that it start as a basic hunter++. If he can choose the time of the fight (near dawn if possible), the place/environment and the weapons of the fight... mortals have taken down vampire in the past in a last ditch effort. Vampire can and usually will have bigger vitae reserve... but those can be depleted (healing/vampire powers), all disciplines have weakness that can be exploited... beyond that: fire is an almost universal power in WOD.
Also, wererats are a thing in Werewolf: The Apocalypse, but I don't know if they are part of the 5th edition due to the fifth edition WtA being a reboot. Said reboot has been controversial for various reasons so I imagine Alfabusa will be using a lot of elements of previous edition lore for Werewolves even if they do use 5th edition as a base, much like they said in the intro disclaimer.
brfore you watch episode 1 of their mage game, be sure to watch the 4 prequel episodes, they are pretty good and provide great insight into the characters personalities.
1:10:52 to answer your question yes absolutely, however it is very unlikely, that they would rise in status, to a creature of similar power, and most vampires would probably still look down on them, outside of really weird circumstances
1:19:04 Why is he trying to convince Kitten? It's quite simple really. Like it was established that flaw of Markus is unyielding curiosity, so is inexperienced and kind-hearted Kitten can put himself in danger if he's conceptually sees vampires as humans and redeemable beings. I guess D already saw where could it go. He, himself is able to see good in Kevin because he knows when vampire puts on an act.
32:32 nah it would. There are vampire clans of necromancers who know about the world of the ghosts 1:10:52 depends on the generation of the vampire and age of the ghoul 1:16:47 were rats are a thing in wod
"Mages kicked God out" No. That's specifically New World of darkness and sorta debatable especially considering how metaphor might become literal reality and vice versa. In Old World specifically, God is real although mostly relevant only to Vampire and Demon. In Vampire, He is specifically described as the one who cursed Caine initially(then some Angels added a few more when Caine refused to repent, and shit got even weirder wjhen Lilith got involved). Some of the Antediluvians are even plotting to diablerize God, seeing him as a sort of "Generation 0 Vampire."
So I do have a tale about a rather unorthodox Ghouling involving a character of mine own. He's a Follower of Set (kudos for those who know that Clan) and he went through the normal hoops and trials necessary to become a vampire of that Clan... but he is naturally Unbondable (as in he has the merit that says he cannot be blood bound period), which got him fast tracked to the Warrior training. Skip ahead to the chronicle he's in where he has a small temple dedicated to Ares (one of the approved "faces" of Set, although he has enough awareness to draw a distinction between the two for his own sake) and he has a Ghoul, his first acolyte... but... said Ghoul is not bound, yet still maintains his status because before my vampire Ghouled him, he made sure to learn a lovely bit of his Clan's sorcery (albeit through a more Hellenist, or Greek Pagan, route) to make what is literally "magic blood booze" that a: can keep a Ghoul powered up without the threat of the Bond, and b: can actually be imbibed by vampires who can also get drunk off it... without the threat of the bond. His reasoning: he's Unbondable, he's not sure his acolyte is so he's not going to risk it and ensure that said acolyte keeps their own sense of self through all this.
One thing I think this video does leave out from the lore is that, depending on a ghoul's age...some of them can't be saved! Once they outlive a normal mortal lifespan, they NEED to continue drinking vitae! If it's weened out of their system, they begin aging again...incredibly rapidly! The aging process may kill them, even if they haven't outlived their mortal years, but it'll certainly turn them to dust, the same as if you'd killed an elder kindred. The only real 'out' for those elder ghouls, besides accepting their fate, is the embrace - their Domitor choosing to make them into a kindred. Some will be granted that, especially if their Domitor has taken the time to teach them several disciplines and was grooming them for the embrace all along...but others, may not be so lucky.
@@themaskedmysadaean8885 yeah, but that's pretty obscure now. I've never heard it used outside of 19th century period pieces, whereas Bobby is the polite police nickname.
45:00 D forgot to mention that Vlad Tepes aka Dracula and certain indigenous tribes also drank blood and in the Tribes case; even cannibalized. Also, unless I misread, I think a group of Japanese soldiers in ww2 did similar on the battlefield as an intimidation tactic. Queens Victoria being a Vampire would make a lot of sense and explain a lot about England, WW1, and the Royal Family. Also do I *want* to know they D did to those people in prison? Or *why* it was censored?
Wasn't WoD's version of Vlad Tepes a Tzimisce, though? That would probably exclude him from the "regular fellow" category, although one could argue that, for that matter, even real-life Vlad hardly qualifies. The same would go for cannibals. The japanese soldiers, on the other hand, would count as regular people. Maybe D isn't as well-versed in WW2 scare tactics?
Good point, though looking at his stat block, he does have 5 dots in Vicissitude. I would infer that he represents the more "traditional", more "refined" if you will, type of Tzimisce: lordly, dignified, dissonantly courteous, with principles he follows to a T and, obviously, being old (proto-) Balkanian nobility like most Tzimisce of his time. If I recall correctly, the clan only developped its knack for fleshcrafting relatively late in its history (though I absolutely wouldn't know at what exact time). Perhaps that would explain why Vlad is more in line with the traditional east-european vampire, and not the stereotypical Dark Eldar-type freak the Tzimisce are know for being.
Who I think the traitor is Grimal Smith (the anime lover) as she is obsessed with biting and in the bar episode said she would sneak into the vents to listen to the elders. In other words she could sneak into the archives without a key, attack the chaptermaster, and steal the data.
Ayoo lad, Since nobody mentioned here nor in your chat. I could throw this bit of information about this ''Holy See''. Holy See is Vatican, basicly a golden throne. And funny thing about it that object is that its regarded as a person in some meetings :)
How strong a ghoul can become depends on which book / version you’re using! if you listen to say the 20th anniversary tome 13th-8th gen vampires can only teach their ghouls 1st level discipline. While 7th could teach up to 2nd level, 6th to 3rd etc. So any ghouls of a 4th Gen or lower could essentially be almost as powerful as a full kindred - should there Domitor so desire it. But, the Ghouls +Revenants book retconned that table a bit. allowing 10th+9th generation to teach them 2nd level powers, 7th+8th 3rd level, and 6th-5th 4th level. Then V5 came along and everyone can only learn up to level 1 again unless they wanna take aggravated damage. 🙄
Since you mentioned the render early and I saw comments asking. The GMod map of the house is Gm_HTPhouse from Karl the Deranged's worshop page. And sophia is a figure prominent in gnosticism. She is jesus' female twin because aspects of god appear as male and female pairs in that belief system. So probably D uses a gnostic method of blessing his holy water.
speaking of vampires that 'graceful' step of the stage of humanity. that is a thing that happens most often with fledging's, especially with in anarchs and sometimes with in the carmilia do. though such things can often come more down to the blood line rather than the sect. for example among the Ventrue, and Toreador tend to cought their would be fledgling for many mouths or even years before the embrace. sometimes educating them slowly in the way of the vampire and sometimes though from what ive heard its rare. that sometimes a would be fledgling is ghould for a time before the embrace though the whay ive being told thats more a Tremere, Tzimisce thing to do clan Tzimisce is even by vampire standeds are odd bunch. as their split between the flesh warpers among the sabot and 'old' chan Tzimisce which are more your dracula stereo type and neather emance on a whim. and almost always with in long standing and 'crafted' and 'managed' blood lines. they go a lot into the revernate family thing. lots of ugentics goning on with the fiends
56:13 As someone who lived in Florida for an extended period of time, trust me: If a spider is big enough, you can _absolutely_ hear them walking.
Much like Florida, the Australians agree with your statement.
COOL THANKS I REALLY WANTED THAT IN MY BRAIN
*pumps shotgun *
Theres a fun example of the level of trust some special Ghouls get from their Kindred masters: On the rare occasions where a child is embraced into Vampirism, they will have one or two ghouls that serve as their surrogate "Parents", this is because even if that vampire has a high rank within their society, or is of a more powerful generation, there are some things they simply cannot do in a childs body and be taken seriously.
This example in question was of a Prince's ghoul (the highest up the chain within the localized branches of the Camarilla. Think of a state governor or the mayor of a particularly large city.) The Prince in this situation was a child, so entrusted their ghoul with arranging court and the day to day operations of the Camarilla. It is of note that prior to this none of the vampires of this city knew this was the Prince, as they had everything done through their ghoul as an intermediary. One day, a particularly uppity and stupid vampire within the court struck the Prince's ghoul across the face, because they were tired of listening to someone they (wrongly) thought beneath them. The Prince learned of this, and *in the middle of court, tore the other vampire to shreds in full view of everyone else, the entire time screaming "You hurt my Mommy" until there was nothing left but a red smear on the floor*
That sounds morbidly like a malkevian
@@hatii3141 Yeah, I don't see Ventrue or Tremere siring a kid. Maybe a Torreador. There are low chances that she was Gangrel, Nosferatu, or Brujah
Dollars to donuts says the kid was a Toreador. Brujah usually don't Embrace children, but Toreador unfortunately do, and they tend to form stronger attachments to the mortals in their lives than the Ventrue.
Quick Correction to what you just said: that story was from Vampire: The Requiem so it wasn’t a Camarilla prince but Invictus and ghouls have a slightly different status in Requiem in that A ghoul families often have special bonuses and weakness to them, depending on the family and their job in vampire society and B often are considered an extension of their vampire masters will to the extent where a ghoul can sometimes speak on a torpid vampires behalf and a vampire overly abusing a ghoul publicly is kind of considered to be equivalent to a mentally ill person who likes to punch himself in the face according to one story in the Requiem second edition core book
@@maciejas2471 the story the OP mentioned is actually from Requiem and is notable because Requiem Vampires usually don’t sire children as vampires because the last time in history that was common it led to a group of child vampires called the children’s Crusade and the children’s Crusade became very corrupt even by vampire standards. Like corrupt to the point where the other vampire covenants teamed up to wipe them out to the last one. So the child prince in the story is a rare exception to the custom of not embracing children
Don't think anybody has said this yet, but the dog cancer thing is entirely real. It's called TVT, or Transmissible Venereal Tumor. Its a dog cancer that underwent a strange mutation that allows it to spread between different dogs as an STD, or any other skin-to-skin contact. It's one of only three known infectious cancers in mammals, the other two being found in Tasmanian devils and hamsters. Its also quite interesting as, as far as taxonomy is concerned, its still part of the canine family tree! We also know, from the cancer's DNA, that it came from a pre-contact Native American dog. Estimates range between 6,000 and 11,000 years for its original creation.
Anyway, I don't necessarily think Big D was trying to compare it to a disease, so much as a mutation that created an organism that, while once human (or in this case, canine) now exists only to perpetuate itself by infecting and hijacking the body of other members of its kind.
Neat, infections cancer. New nightmare unlocked.
I think Ockham can't be a ghoul because his literal solar magic will burn the vampiric blood from his system. He is someone who is the most effective against kindred.
Personaly I believe it to be best case scenario the scalpel lady (or worse case scenario Gremel)
@@jackmack4181my sister suspects the doctor as well, especially given she said she was going to be reading when they left the vault. Reading what? The data, perhaps
It doesn’t make any sense for Ockham to be the Ghoul. If he was he already would have given the data away LONG ago and made his escape. Plus given how he’s a mage (or martial artist of the mystic variety) I don’t see how he would even be put in a position to be Ghouled unless it was willingly.
Yeah, it can't be someone that high up, or the data would already be long since compromised.
@@dacomputernerd4096ill tell you what she's reading, Coke lines.
Shes a crack addict.
Fun fact about holy water, you can make more by adding more water, as long as there is more holy water than regular water, it all becomes holy water.
So theoretically
If a priest blessed the rains down in Africa…
@@jackmack4181 as long as the rainfall is more than the current volume of any given waterway, it would become a holy river. Also, any pope could theoretically bless an entire ocean.
You must watch parts 1-4 character intros before watching episode 1 of mage game!
Definietly, unless you want to very confused about what’s going on
Yup, the introductions are definitly required viewing for Norfolk Wizard Game as a whole.
Blue Rare Steak is the rarest cooking of steak - that is, the closest to 'uncooked'. Raw, red in the center. Generally cooked for a minute on both sides. Should be noted, Beef is actually a very clean meat so long as the animal is not diseased and properly handled. kept at proper temperatures the only part of the meat with bacteria/unhealthy germs is the part exposed to air.
otherwise known as Gordon Ramsay disapproved
I think it's spelled bleu.
@@TheAsylumCat I respect the French only in the fact they hate the British and the British only in the fact that they hate the French.
@@TheAsylumCat I respect the French only in their disdain for the British, and the British only in their disdain for the French.
So to clarify, vampires actually don't need to Ghoul animals to control them, although it DOES make them more effective. Imagine a field mouse being able to single-handedly take down a dog and you have a pretty good idea of what kinds of physical changes it can impose, but it also tends to make animals marginally more intelligent and receptive to the commands of the vampire in question. For instance, a vampire could allow a vicious guard dog to bite them and taste their blood, and in the process immediately establish a Blood Bond that would not only have the guard dog treat the vampire like a beloved friend, but also more receptive to their commands and body cues.
However, Ghouling an animal doesn't mean it can actually communicate complicated messages unless it was already capable of doing so previously, so a dog might be able to identify friend from foe, but it wouldn't be able to describe them in any appreciable way, whereas something like a chimpanzee or a raven might be able to actually give a report through sign language or pictograms if they have the capacity to do so.
This is where the Discipline of Animalism comes in. In its most basic form it mimics the effects of training or the Blood Bond in animals, allowing a vampire to call upon them and direct them with orders through a limited form of telepathy and mind-control. At higher levels, the vampire can communicate with animals, read their thoughts, and even project their minds into animals to control them directly, among other powers. This means that a vampire who has access to Animalism does not need to Ghoul and Blood Bond animals to make them effective spies or guard animals, and they can still Ghoul them regardless to make more effective servants out of them.
Animalism is also fairly broad in its applications, allowing vampires to control most non-intelligent creatures quite easily and even influence, say, the Beast of another vampire or the Rage of a werewolf, although these are far more advanced applications. Still, the sky is pretty much the limit with Animalism and it can be frighteningly powerful with the right application of even its most basic forms.
Hell yeah! Awesome that you're finally reacting to this one! Honestly this one certainly goes the hardest out of all HTP audiologs, especially at the end
Caiaphas Smith is a 204 year old independent ghoul hunter. He is the greatest hunter to ever live and is number one enemy of the vampire.
I only remember Caiaphas Cain
He's the hero of humanity (not that humanity would know it)
19:47 It was clarified that they did not "break in". Door dismantled the window professionally without breaking a thing.
49:49 Not most vampires. Only Clan Tremere and the Vaulderie of the Sabbat.
52:26 That's Queen Elizabeth I.
53:25 Also Queen Victoria is not a vampire because she's canonically involved with mages (well the Technocracy but those are more or less mages even if they might not prefer the term).
56:48 He just made them, the dough has to dry for them to be ready to eat. (Also scones are more like small bread than cookies.)
1:10:04 Scones are bread and British food. D was saying how Boy doesn't eat any kind of bread or any kind of British food so has double the reason to not eat scones.
1:19:39 Cordyceps is the "ant zombie fungus" for the record (and the inspiration behind Last of Us).
The true depth of evil, in this video pertains to one particular clan of vampires, the Tzimisces. They are known as the clan of flesh molders with their discipline of vicissitude. Like Ssethzeentach said in his VMT:B video, they sculpted their victims into horrific things, even creating an entire church building out of people
Indeed. Or at least a large part. I imagine there are other kinds of vampires who are similarly... 'creative'
In that very game, you enter a house where even the wallpaper is made of living meat. Beds, chairs, dressers, etc.
Ah yes, the living cathedral that Yorak made... and then it ate him :D
@@Motleydoll123 There is one, actually. The Volgirre, a bloodline of the Toreador who went and joined the Sabbat and learned Vicissitude from the Tzimisce, then many of them quietly slipped back into the Camarilla via the mainline Toreador. They're probably even WORSE than the Tzimisce in some ways.
The Tzimisce are generally more apathetic to suffering that sadistic, at least the older ones, they think of the agony and screams of their victims through Vicissitude as simply part of the process or a box to check on a requirement list. They think of the pain of their victims as something to hone in pitch and tenor in the same way a painter wants the perfect shade of a color.
The Volgirre, though? They RELISH all the pain and agony they inflict and go out of their way to cause it for entertainment and jollies. They were even the ones who refined a way to enhance the pain receptors of the victim to make it even more agonizing.
- UV light wont work, there was a mission in vampire masquerade bloodline 1 where that was tested (and to this day that game is canon right?). Radiation wont affect a vampire until it is heavy (it act half way between a poison and a burn effect i think). Also the whole sun weakness has no scientific reasoning behind it. Its a curse thrown onto the face of Caine by god itself (or one of his angels) to punish him for the murder of Caine's, Abel. While arch-mage can cure the curse of vampirism, negating their weakness of the sun would either go against the will of all mankind (creature of the night fear the ray of the sun) or the will of God himself. That would result the silly mage being bi***slap into oblivion by all the paradox in the universe. There are some shit in the night you just dont mess with...
- The comparison between vampirism and a parasyte CAN be accurate since vampire have a thing called the beast eating at their humanity inside. It is a long term thing, but when vampire gets older than a normal human lifespan, almost all of their mortal family and friends have expired, you must have killed innocents quite a few time to survive and seen many horrors in the dark of the night. After all that, you do feel and act alienated from humanity. See them as nothing but dumb and expandable food. But when you dont, when you feel a link between you and a mortal, you might be tempted to... bring them alone into the night... for company (mouahahahahahaha).
If you look into the sun weakness from a lens of Werewolf or Mage, it's tied to Helios, aka: the literal spirit of the sun himself.
@@Desiremademanifest for the purposes of vampirism helios is largely irrelevent it's pretty expressly a god given curse
@@marley7868 As I said: from the LENS o Werewolf or Mage, meaning from their perspective
@@Desiremademanifest true but that's kinda the problem he is massively irrelevent for most in the world of darkness
Depresion:
First audiolog mentions animal ghould briefly and door being raised on a diet of hunted presumed spy rats.
Yarmouth is so broken on a spiritual level that Nottingham pity it.
And that's saying a LOT!
Ear vacuum should be the same as a nose vacuum, basically a liquid dropper like device meant to gently clean an infants ear/nose canal without the risk of injury a rigid tool like a q-tip.
52:23 that's Elizabeth the first your talking about
- hummm... the police officier breaking his bond is most likely due to neglect from the Regent not bothering upholding it rather than her not being competent to keeping the maintenance up (did constable whats-its-name mention falling out of favor or was it Kevin?). Could also be a choice, he was in severe withdrawal state but ready to blow up the police station for more vitae, that's one way to keep an employee motivated and she has enough dirt on him to be sure he wont think about overt betrayal... by himself... i can see this work.
- New ghoul vs new vampire born from 2 average humans: vampire win 8-9 out of 10. Vampire can heal almost all damage faster than a ghoul can, within a single combat (only 1 of those 2 can re-attach a severed limb). They can soak twice the non-lethal damage and the lethal damage at all (bullet hole mean bleeding for a ghoul with a functioning heart, a vampire will feel some pain AND redirect his attention). Also vampire get 3 time more vampiric power from start than ghoul do. After that... and old ghoul (say decades or century old) vs a new vampire, one who might have been told about vampire powers and weaknesses... now we are going around a ratio of 4-6 out of 10 victory for the new leeche.
Chapman indeed mentioned that his blood bond hadn't been renewed in some time.
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Or they are the Ghoul of a low generation. Iirc Caine himself or a 2nd Gen had a Ghoul equal in power to an Antedeluvian.
@@AmericanBrit9834 Of course. A ghoul at start at "birth" as a day walker "diet vampire", but it also mean that it start as a basic hunter++. If he can choose the time of the fight (near dawn if possible), the place/environment and the weapons of the fight... mortals have taken down vampire in the past in a last ditch effort. Vampire can and usually will have bigger vitae reserve... but those can be depleted (healing/vampire powers), all disciplines have weakness that can be exploited... beyond that: fire is an almost universal power in WOD.
Also, wererats are a thing in Werewolf: The Apocalypse, but I don't know if they are part of the 5th edition due to the fifth edition WtA being a reboot. Said reboot has been controversial for various reasons so I imagine Alfabusa will be using a lot of elements of previous edition lore for Werewolves even if they do use 5th edition as a base, much like they said in the intro disclaimer.
are you going to watch the shorts aswell as the norfolk wizard game videos?
Wasn't Queen Victoria one of the founders of Technocracy?
Yeah. She helped to fund the early technocacry so yeah Big D has a good reason to hate her
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@@alekslic3385 Damn, homie got room 101'd
If you pay close attention, the 3d house is actually gmod!
Have yet to find the map name though....
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brfore you watch episode 1 of their mage game, be sure to watch the 4 prequel episodes, they are pretty good and provide great insight into the characters personalities.
1:10:52 to answer your question yes absolutely, however it is very unlikely, that they would rise in status, to a creature of similar power, and most vampires would probably still look down on them, outside of really weird circumstances
1:19:04
Why is he trying to convince Kitten? It's quite simple really. Like it was established that flaw of Markus is unyielding curiosity, so is inexperienced and kind-hearted Kitten can put himself in danger if he's conceptually sees vampires as humans and redeemable beings. I guess D already saw where could it go. He, himself is able to see good in Kevin because he knows when vampire puts on an act.
32:32 nah it would. There are vampire clans of necromancers who know about the world of the ghosts
1:10:52 depends on the generation of the vampire and age of the ghoul
1:16:47 were rats are a thing in wod
And yes, you could say they ab-scone-ded.
Take My like and leave or Else. 🗡️😐
@@samfire3067 my good sir, I suppose I shall have to take my leave then. I shall ab-scone-d with your like.
"Mages kicked God out"
No. That's specifically New World of darkness and sorta debatable especially considering how metaphor might become literal reality and vice versa.
In Old World specifically, God is real although mostly relevant only to Vampire and Demon. In Vampire, He is specifically described as the one who cursed Caine initially(then some Angels added a few more when Caine refused to repent, and shit got even weirder wjhen Lilith got involved). Some of the Antediluvians are even plotting to diablerize God, seeing him as a sort of "Generation 0 Vampire."
They’re in the walls, THEY’RE IN THE GOD DAMN WALLS!
-D probably.
The Tzimisce in chat What is wrong with the flesh cathedral?
That was more of incredulous "Really?" than excited to me but not sure
Scones is what the britain calls an english muffin But far much better
Blood bond, at least from what i know and have seen, imagine a "yanderae X yanderae" situation. Even if the love blows out, the feelings stay.
So I do have a tale about a rather unorthodox Ghouling involving a character of mine own. He's a Follower of Set (kudos for those who know that Clan) and he went through the normal hoops and trials necessary to become a vampire of that Clan... but he is naturally Unbondable (as in he has the merit that says he cannot be blood bound period), which got him fast tracked to the Warrior training. Skip ahead to the chronicle he's in where he has a small temple dedicated to Ares (one of the approved "faces" of Set, although he has enough awareness to draw a distinction between the two for his own sake) and he has a Ghoul, his first acolyte... but... said Ghoul is not bound, yet still maintains his status because before my vampire Ghouled him, he made sure to learn a lovely bit of his Clan's sorcery (albeit through a more Hellenist, or Greek Pagan, route) to make what is literally "magic blood booze" that a: can keep a Ghoul powered up without the threat of the Bond, and b: can actually be imbibed by vampires who can also get drunk off it... without the threat of the bond. His reasoning: he's Unbondable, he's not sure his acolyte is so he's not going to risk it and ensure that said acolyte keeps their own sense of self through all this.
Scones I believe is a reference to TTS as the space marine was going to make him a sandwich but he was making scones with suger.
One thing I think this video does leave out from the lore is that, depending on a ghoul's age...some of them can't be saved! Once they outlive a normal mortal lifespan, they NEED to continue drinking vitae! If it's weened out of their system, they begin aging again...incredibly rapidly! The aging process may kill them, even if they haven't outlived their mortal years, but it'll certainly turn them to dust, the same as if you'd killed an elder kindred. The only real 'out' for those elder ghouls, besides accepting their fate, is the embrace - their Domitor choosing to make them into a kindred. Some will be granted that, especially if their Domitor has taken the time to teach them several disciplines and was grooming them for the embrace all along...but others, may not be so lucky.
average airier reaction: *goes to make joke* *pause* *thinks a bit* *relization* *finger curls* *horiffied look* *sudden laughter*
Thanks for this.
A great instalment.
Bobby is British slang for policeman, comes from Robert Peele, the founder of the London Metropolitan Police Force.
Along with Peelers.
@@themaskedmysadaean8885 yeah, but that's pretty obscure now. I've never heard it used outside of 19th century period pieces, whereas Bobby is the polite police nickname.
Blood wedding means master slave, loving relationship. Kinda
The expression on Queen Victoria comment were priceless 😂
45:00 D forgot to mention that Vlad Tepes aka Dracula and certain indigenous tribes also drank blood and in the Tribes case; even cannibalized. Also, unless I misread, I think a group of Japanese soldiers in ww2 did similar on the battlefield as an intimidation tactic.
Queens Victoria being a Vampire would make a lot of sense and explain a lot about England, WW1, and the Royal Family.
Also do I *want* to know they D did to those people in prison? Or *why* it was censored?
Wasn't WoD's version of Vlad Tepes a Tzimisce, though? That would probably exclude him from the "regular fellow" category, although one could argue that, for that matter, even real-life Vlad hardly qualifies. The same would go for cannibals. The japanese soldiers, on the other hand, would count as regular people. Maybe D isn't as well-versed in WW2 scare tactics?
Fair enough, I suppose. Vlad being a Tzimisce is surprising seeing he was more a Necron Flayef on than a Fark Eldar Homunculus.
Good point, though looking at his stat block, he does have 5 dots in Vicissitude. I would infer that he represents the more "traditional", more "refined" if you will, type of Tzimisce: lordly, dignified, dissonantly courteous, with principles he follows to a T and, obviously, being old (proto-) Balkanian nobility like most Tzimisce of his time. If I recall correctly, the clan only developped its knack for fleshcrafting relatively late in its history (though I absolutely wouldn't know at what exact time). Perhaps that would explain why Vlad is more in line with the traditional east-european vampire, and not the stereotypical Dark Eldar-type freak the Tzimisce are know for being.
Queen vic was not a vampire. She was involed with the mages since she helped to find and bankroll the technocracy
That is genuinely surprising
the house in the background is actually a garry's mod map made by one of the members of their team
Can you react to the mage videos feel really good and I think you would like them
Given he is Middle Eastern and Big D is that old it was probably back when it was cultural for clans and families to have communal wine making.
Who I think the traitor is
Grimal Smith (the anime lover) as she is obsessed with biting and in the bar episode said she would sneak into the vents to listen to the elders. In other words she could sneak into the archives without a key, attack the chaptermaster, and steal the data.
The Queen with all the white makeup was Queen Elizabeth I not Victoria
Ayoo lad, Since nobody mentioned here nor in your chat. I could throw this bit of information about this ''Holy See''. Holy See is Vatican, basicly a golden throne. And funny thing about it that object is that its regarded as a person in some meetings :)
It is brown stained obviously, its for humours, gotta be at least a century old
There is a vampire hunter who kills and drinks the blood of vampires to extend his life
Caiaphas Smith is the guy nearly 200 years old but looks like he is 72
If Big D didn't own a pressure washer Door definitely would
What did you _do_ that you had to get by on that amount of sleep?
... Found a good book and lost track of time. 😅
Yeah, completely self inflicted.
@@Airier God knows how many times I have done that. It should be somewhere in the triple digits.
I believe I heard/saw somewhere that this is a gmod map.
i think the house has been done in gmod personally
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Iirc only tremere are obsessed with the blood bonds thing. Other clans use other methods of loyalty for new members iirc
Sophians where from the school of Sophistry
How strong a ghoul can become depends on which book / version you’re using!
if you listen to say the 20th anniversary tome 13th-8th gen vampires can only teach their ghouls 1st level discipline. While 7th could teach up to 2nd level, 6th to 3rd etc. So any ghouls of a 4th Gen or lower could essentially be almost as powerful as a full kindred - should there Domitor so desire it.
But, the Ghouls +Revenants book retconned that table a bit. allowing 10th+9th generation to teach them 2nd level powers, 7th+8th 3rd level, and 6th-5th 4th level.
Then V5 came along and everyone can only learn up to level 1 again unless they wanna take aggravated damage. 🙄
Since you mentioned the render early and I saw comments asking. The GMod map of the house is Gm_HTPhouse from Karl the Deranged's worshop page.
And sophia is a figure prominent in gnosticism. She is jesus' female twin because aspects of god appear as male and female pairs in that belief system. So probably D uses a gnostic method of blessing his holy water.
the house is a mod for Gmod !
I had a prof who was proscribed fentayal
No one would know why, but this will be comment.
Why- Greeks
speaking of vampires that 'graceful' step of the stage of humanity. that is a thing that happens most often with fledging's, especially with in anarchs and sometimes with in the carmilia do. though such things can often come more down to the blood line rather than the sect.
for example among the Ventrue, and Toreador tend to cought their would be fledgling for many mouths or even years before the embrace. sometimes educating them slowly in the way of the vampire
and sometimes though from what ive heard its rare. that sometimes a would be fledgling is ghould for a time before the embrace though the whay ive being told thats more a Tremere, Tzimisce thing to do
clan Tzimisce is even by vampire standeds are odd bunch. as their split between the flesh warpers among the sabot and 'old' chan Tzimisce which are more your dracula stereo type and neather emance on a whim. and almost always with in long standing and 'crafted' and 'managed' blood lines. they go a lot into the revernate family thing. lots of ugentics goning on with the fiends
The background is from gMod.
Big D calling Scones "bread" is highly heretical. Scones are cakes!
Scones are sandwiches!
@@cantharelluscibarius2244 NO! They are _cakes!_
@@HunhowsShadowStalkerNO! They are *Sandwich bread*
@@jacthing1 Scones are not *_FAHKING_* bread!!
iirc the holy see is expressly the vatican so yes it's rome but like a city block or two of it
Blue steak, is a thing it’s super f rare.
Please react to JoJo the lighted stage
good video also 1.
New dougdoug vid is out
Note: the new vid is on dougs other channel "dougdougdoug"
Love from a BruvaAlfabus and Vaush fan!