I guess im randomly asking but does anybody know of a method to log back into an instagram account? I was stupid forgot my password. I would love any tips you can offer me.
@Kyler Messiah thanks so much for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm in the hacking process now. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
If you had the time, and since this plugin appears to be at the high end of the "auto-mixing" market, I would love to see you mix a track yourself, then get Neutron to do it's version, and then compare the two with commentary on, for example, the main moves you made, the main moves Neutron made and obviously whatever issues and observations arise from the comparrison.
I agree that this would probably be even better than mixing a track solely with Neutron 3 because it shows how close the plug-in can get to an experienced mixing engineer. Please do this!
I really doubt Neutron can get anywhere close to the same results as doing EVERYTHING manually, but if you only made the same types of adjustments that Neutron was limited to then that would be an interesting comparison.
My most recent track that I'm going to be uploading in a few days was damn near completely mixed with Neutron 3. I did a complete mix before I got it. Then I started over with using about 95% Neutron 3. I will say that my first mix was better, but only slightly. And with the difference in time, I felt I was able to compensate for the tonality difference of the track when mastering it. With me it was days to mix (I'm slow I have a traumatic brain injury, haha) using LOTS of different plugins vs a couple hours to "auto-mix" (with tweaking obviously, haha) using almost all Neutron 3. I kept a saturation plugin on my guitars from the first mix that I liked, that Neutron wasn't quite getting me towards. But I still don't really know the ins and outs of Neutron yet. And obviously delays/reverbs/amp sims/etc. (all the stuff Neutron doesn't do). I have to say Neutron is DEFINITELY my favorite mixing tool now. Izotope is scary amazing at what they pull off!
After the autobalancing in all reviews I’ve seen still some changes had to be made to make it just right. So it’s not completely automatic (thankfully) and is just like the track assistant more of a starting point. Especially since sonic balances might change through arrangement differences in a song making adjustments needed antways. Seems to work quite decent indeed, thanks for the clear review as always.
5:15 i would like to see you do a video on what clashing vs no clashing sounds like with different instruments such as guitar and piano, synth and rhodes or something. im sure you would figure it out well and explain greatly. but i hear this term so often and i fear i am not paying attention for it and thus am getting a poor mix because i dont know what i dont know im looking for 😅 ive looked into it as much as i belive i can and still feel uninformed about the issue in whole. if you could go in depth about it more in the future id love to watch it!
I really dig your advice. As a sound engineer, Some of these plugg ins are taking much of the actual 'talent' and 'organic human' element. I dont think most people realize what they can do with the modules built in, such as ableton etc. obviously plugg inns are a fun and great way to add a certain shimmer, or clarity, or distortion harmonics. You have probably one of the most HONEST and REALISTIC preospectives Ive heard. Excellent work. Namaste
I want to see full mixdown with more elements of the track with weird frequency ranges! so we know what are the limits of neutron 3. Mixing engineers nightmare is getting close!
The balance is good for gain staging and as a starting point, but different genres need different balancing according to the instruments, the focus doesnt really tackle that.
It was not entirely wrong, but the mix assistant balancing is actually intended as gain staging before you add a channel strip (like neutron 3). So you can make sure you are not processing too hot. When you watch a tutorial, they use Relay at the beginning of every fx-chain on the dry signal.
@@Whiteseastudio I mean, if it is able to adjust gain of dry stems, why shouldn't it be able to do the same with processed stems? I just tested it with a project, where I added Relay and Neutron 3 on every track. If you use the balance assistant with Neutron it adjusts its output gain. Which is good. I mean, you wouldn't want to fuck up input gain after you set your compressor. On their website it says: "If you already have other insert effects loaded on channels, or if you’d like to use Visual Mixer to control levels and panning in your mix, the Relay should be placed at the end of each track’s FX chain." So it is not wrong as I said. But if you would want to let the ai mix everything, I suggest you let it adjust gain at the beginning, before doing anything else. Like the tutorial: th-cam.com/video/HQgAzYKmo2k/w-d-xo.html
yes I would like to see the entire mixdown with Neutron 3. In addition for a later review I would like to see you do a mixdown with what you consider the best of the best plugins ending in mastering.
Play with the assistant parameters prior to running assistant for the best results. Choosing the instrument type, flavor of processing, and strength of processing is a great way to get not only a balanced sound, but one with some attitude. I really like using the warm setting on midrange/upper midrange instruments for punch, body, and definition. Broadband clarity is much more neutral processing that’s great for things like piano that cover most of the spectrum depending upon the arrangement, and upfront is excellent for problematic tracks that can get buried in the mix. I also personally like using the upfront setting on certain percussion elements like tambourine that have lots of extra mid and low mid noise that doesn’t necessarily serve the mix. It’s all very dependent on the overall arrangement, but making those choices can make a world of difference.
I love iZotope for pushing technology forward. But with Neutron and Ozone, regardless the version, I always feel like trading "emotion & soul" for technical precision...
You can always adjust stuff. I see it as a tool that suggests or kind of points me some directions I could take. Like an assistant :)) Like a coffee machine: espresso light, medium... coffee, two coffees, cappuccino... Now, I could do those myself or press a button, of course. But what this plugins do: SAVE time, when you also have so many other life things to do. I mean, try adding a spectral shaper, two eq-s, compressor, saturation and a leveler... By the time I wrote this phrase above, Neutron already added and tweaked some things for me.
I’d love to see it on a full real instrument mix with 12-16ch of raw drums, all the vocal overdubs, multi-mic guitars adding up to 48-96 channels of audio. I’d be shocked if it got so close to a final product. I think I have an upgrade waiting for me with music production suite 2 so I’ll check it out myself at some point.
I was and early adopter of their spire studio.. firstly, amazing customer service, but lets get beyond that, alot of their products are in fact as walking the snake oil line. I like you how you put it. I really hoped something like this would work better, because if Im a musician first, and secondly a producer, I might really want to put those features on auto-pilot.. the fact of the matter is this entire concept is flawed from the beginning. if you are using algorhyhthms to force your mix to be within constraints of normalness is pretty much garunteeing it sounds like everything else. I like a unique sounding mix.. and not just generic sounding.
I can imagine what a new haircut brings, but I have no idea what spectral shaping could be. I recommend to use the Waves L2 as much as possible as hard as possible and Spectral Audio Neptune is a fantastic Synth !
No solo or mute function in the virtual mixer that's a pity or I didn't see that and in studio one the track names are not taken over when I insert a relay why a button to lock in the virtual mixer would be nice to have for example the kick when I move it stays in the middle.
Please add the technical side of using, and how to use it correctly. Im having issues getting the Relay/tracks to link with the Nuetron/master mix assistant. - Do I have to mix assist Every Track BEFORE I use the mix assistant on the master??... Some tracks I dont want to use their eq etc etc. I only spent a few mins trying to figure it out.. so hopefully just a quick fix.
PhilouGanJa DuB-SelecToR I did, I basically have it setup correctly. & even tried on a New empty mix to make sure. Im starting to think it was a fucked up download. My only other thing would be because im using an Old ass pirated version of FL... which might now have whats needed for it to work 🤔 Im pissed but over it at the same time, I can still use the mix assistant on the Master no? If not atleast on separate tracks, just cant use it for wtf I paid for 👎🏻
Cur-Sed_Chopstix Wtf are you talking about, FL20 with all the plugins is $900 lol. Unless im missing something. I wonder if I uninstall mine, I could still have the plugins used on a purchased version.
yes do a mix down! por favor! - & don't worry about comments testing your emotional stability-ur probably the best tutorial/tester of plugins out there -vry informative & vry funny :)
I'm with you almost 90% of the time in philosophy and weighting - i.e. how you think. I tend to revert to basic tools, because I know exactly how they work, and I'm wary of "auto" and sensing stuff. But I'm sitting on the fence with "spectral shaping". At first, I thought - that's just EQ and compression. But it isn't - it's a real-time reactive EQ (in most implementations) and maybe some of them are doing real-time reactive compression (not sure who is or isn't). But even with the case of the real-time reactive EQ, that's clearly better. I used to use matching EQ's as detection meters (never as a final EQ), until I realized that a static EQ match is just too inaccurate for a moving piece of audio. But I think maybe spectral processing is going to get us to new places. It's still just a tool, and one best used by a conscious decision maker. I just generally find I can get most things done with EQ and compression. Great review though, and I love this channel.
I would love to see you do a full mix session with N3 as your copilot. They’ve maintained that the idea is really about getting you started by doing the grunt work, but not the finishing work. I recently picked this up for a help on a film score and it worked alright - but taking the project one cue at a time still takes time and I did run into consistency issues with the over design of each track. On an individual basis it was solid though :)
I don't know much about mixing but Neutron Elements version is currently free for a limited time and I really appreciate the fact that I can see what the changes I make are actually doing a signal and it is all in one nice interface. I like it a lot.
I love neutron 3 but I have a question with masking meter. I am a beginner. So first I put relays on all tracks. As I understand, I can only compare masking on 1 neutron track one with one other tracks at a time.? For example, I can unmask bass and drums only? What if I want to unmask my vocals or guitars to all tracks? I am worried about masking from any track When I check for masking, is there a way to put neutron on one track and compare it to all tracks? I don't want to get a CPU overland. What if I bus all the other tracks to one aux track and compare the a neutron track to the total mix? Like the vocals to every other track? This should unmask that track. Could I do this another way.? Thanks Any help would be so helpful. Stay safe from the Corona virus. I have mixed many of my songs .but i feel like my mixes are so muddy. But could u guys please listen and tell me what to do? At this point , it is so frustrating that I would appreciate any advice from anyone. Danny words and guitars. Anyone want to collaborate? Borderline delusion band Please email me Borderlinedelusion@gmail.com th-cam.com/play/PLtj_90xCmJuxo6RJTex4Tg_JuhlnZtvrE.html
one of my first comments on youtube for ages to tell you what you already know: yes i definitly want to see you going more in depth with this! and thanks man
If by spectral shaping you're referring to multiband; its way more fire and floats with the audio's dynamics in ways that traditional eqs & compressors cant
As I've said elsewhere, Neutron 3 is great for establishing a good starting point on your tracks. I've done a full mix with the new Mix Assistant and, again, it gives a good balanced baseline from which to begin tweaking the mix with your other favourite plugins to get the results you desire. If you're new to this game or just don't have the experience or confidence to get going on a mix, Neutron can definitely help.
Hmm I have Neutron I never upgraded to 1 or 2 I use it now and again but I have my own way of gain staging and I have my plug in favourites. I have Bitwig studio 3 these days still learning all it can do
I bought the suite when it was on sale as well and think they really are amazing and the inter-plugin functionality is really clever! Definitely not Snake-Oil right?! iZotope are making some really good plugins and you are making great videos man.. I love watching your stuff! I bought Ozone 9 recently so time to watch your review of that next! Would also like to see you do a full mix-down with Neutron 3!! 🙌🏼
I've not watched this video yet just read the comments. It's a good starting point this plugin, just using the auto function should only be a starting point, not just using that. I've tried it and it doesn't always choose the same settings on the same sound. It's good use to see which are the affected areas are that need to be tamed but anyone serious shouldn't rely on this to mix your tracks.
Kurt'O Hey, good to read you are not getting the same settings on the same sound! Are you using N3 or N2? I only tested this with my N2, but will now try this with the N3! Thanks. (Still, $149 upgrade... :-( )
people are obsessed with spectral shaping because on paper, it seems like the quickest way to hit a reference like balance for a commercial mix without having to go backtrack your entire signal chain for where those changes were to actually happen. it comes with loads it's own problems obviously. it's sometimes what producers end up doing when they're working on projects with no budget for an engineer and very, very limited time.
I've got 2 more days to decide if I want to upgrade for the 299 sale price from Music Production Suite 1. Think it's worth it? Of course it's worth it but man, I've spent so much on plugins this and last year. I'm wondering if it ever ends. I only make music for myself right now and I don't know if I'll ever be an audio engineer so I do feel I could get by perfectly fine with what I have.
As someone who works with clients on a budget. Izotope has been a god send. Can get really good mixes faster for those clients with the starting point that those plugins suggest. That way I leave my precious time for the clients that can afford it.
I did try it letting it make the eq/compression decision, leaving the pan settings and a touch of fx to me. All "neutronized" faders to 0, but I also fine tuned the plugin out level and sometimes used the output limiter to bring forward quieter parts of the tracks. Globally, I'm disappointed by the mix engine, mostly because it makes no panning decisions. I must say I tried on live drums and recognizing snare top/bottom or kick in/out is too much to ask for current IA :-) But, I was impressed by its analysis of individual tracks or stems. The spectral shaping tool (called sculptor) is not as good as Gullfoss imho. I found that in many cases, especially when time is short, neutron 3 can prove a remarkable assistant.
I've had this plugin for a bit. Shelled for advanced. I find balance to be complete garbage. Track enhance is hit or mis and mostly miss. The plugin as a plugin full of tools is actually really good though. The eq is one of the nicest I have ever used and that includes pro-q (excludes hardware though obviously). So my thoughts are: plugin is great, automatic features don't work well at all.
I would like to see the full mix. I have been awaiting your review. I purchased this and am blown away. I had a couple of tunes that I had difficulty with then applying Neutron 3 found a much better mix.
Nice video, as usual. I have VERY mixed feelings about the sculptor module, and would be curious to hear you talk more about spectral shaping, and its creating more problems than it solves...
Like the Izotope plugins even if I only have the elements versions. But anyhow: could you please making a video on how to postprocess / mix dialogue recordings with (mainly) free plugins? Like for a podcast or videos of speeches or presentations. Thank you!
Yes, it is a dynamic EQ that tries to match your signal to a target profile. Ozone's Spectral Shaper has 32-Bands. I think it is the same with Sculptor. Izotope had something called "Neutrino". Which was basically an early black box version of sculptor.
A full mixdown with Neutron 3 or a master with Ozone would be awesome just to see how you use it, I have both but still am better/quicker with alot of other plugins partly due to CPU spikes with the graphics (seems to be a problem with my PC and Cubase but plugins with heaps of analysers spike CPU when the window is open but not when closed and still on).
Neutron would have really helped me when I was new to ableron and I was completely held back by my lack of mixing skills... I would over analyze the parts that my ears were not yet able to even hear instead of focusing on the parts I could control and I would get so discouraged. Mixing skills take many years to develop and refine. I think this plugin would be perfect for people new to mixing as they could approach it more as a guide or a reference to compare to their mixes and fast track learning and one day they will have a mix that sounds better than the AI... All these AI and midi plugins are cool for beginners but will never get you a sound that anyone would want to listen to... Audio production seems to attracts many that like the idea of being an audio engineer or producer but perhaps don't actually enjoy the work
The be-all and the end to all audio goodness explanation and who I am. To be-all means to be the best the very best the top tear like you did it with the example of RX, it's holy right? Then RX is your to be-all for your audio repairs and fixings. I also am an audio engineer except on the opposit end was self taught through ableton. The end to all audio goodness means it's taking the top spot it means sort of the same thing, however instead of all the other good audio equipment out there this takes the top spot in your rack. Hope this helps this is my first video of yours I am watching and you have a really nice approach to your videos. Other peeps "other people/ content creators" are too hyper, another thing I also really liked is the FPS for the video! 60 frams seems the same at 720p your 50 FPS make a hell of a difference aka ("Also Known As") a big difference. Going to subscribe for more reviews. I am on the fence about Izotope I have trash 2, and I feel like I wasted my money on a distortion plugin that sounds the same on everything, wondering if you have a review of trash 2? Hope to hear back from you. -A new fan and Producer :D. Have a great day and thanks for your time if you do get the chance to read this. Edit: Btw the reason why spectral shaping is getting to be a bigger topic is because of the fact is it's realitively new in the EDM world. Spectral dynamics dramatically shapes the new way a song is produced, and how new equipment can help us achieve the same bright clean cripsy sounds without pushing the wav file, and young producers didn't even think of the other side of mixing aka the dynamics. If you ever analize one of deamau5s tracks his track is mastered at -85 db however his dynamics are bright and full. I am sure you know this already. The difference is the industry is changing to focus more on dynamics and spectral is realitively unknown to the new producers. Here's what I've figured, since we are now in a zone of "loudness wars" when you upload your track to youtube, soundcloud, spotify or some other platform, there is always going to be adjusted to the "lufs" a new term called "Loudness Units Full Scale" (source :www.warpacademy.com/current-trends-in-mastering/) if you want to read the full article. It's just a trendy word right now, and seeing differences it in a spectral analyzer helps greatly. Have a great day!
I own Ozone and Neutron, but never use it. I personally believe when you're making electronic music with the best possible sound sources, these tools give you the impression you need to 'fix' things that aren't broken. I can imagine it's very powerful when you're recording real instruments under less perfect conditions. But if your library is recorded in Air or Abbey, I will not touch it and trust the legendary engineers who recorded them.
For orchestral music with lots of strings, piano, brass i dont like the neutron 3 assistant, it doesn’t work for me... maybe for some pop songs it work good, but not for me. Anyway thank you for your video ;-)
There is right now an interesting offer on iZotope WEB which includes Neutron 3 Elements and several other basic plug-ins: www.izotope.com/en/products/bundles/music-essentials-bundle.html Note that they are all Elements kind plug-ins, so not the Full Monty ones. But for US$49 I think they are worth a try! 👍
I would love a thorough review of Neutron 3. As an owner of most Izotope products, and admirer of RX, Ozone, Iris, and Trash, I have come to the conclusion that all the “smart” “advisor” stuff is snake oil. Especially when compared with stuff from Sonible, Oeksound, and the Gulfoss guys. My worst disappointment with my Neutron 2 Advanced was when I placed it on a track and let it do its “advising”. I accepted all its recommendations and inserted another Neutron after it. I let it do its listening and, OH!, it recommended exactly the same settings that the previous instance was already implementing!!! This is not A.I.! This just identifies what instrument it is listening to (I could have told it!), and then recommends the same preset! SNAKE OIL! Please try this test! (Also bad is that N2 was very CPU intensive, which Izotope admit and say they fixed in N3, so we get the “benefit” of an upgrade price of “just” us$149!!. Really disappointing coming from this company.) Unless you convince me otherwise with a good review, Neutron (and Nectar, for similar reasons), will be out of my list. Thanks!!
This appeals to folks who want a quick box for their internet music. That's fine. It may be the way our youngsters are doing things for now, and it'll be their learning point as they mature.
3 looks nice... with 2 I found it was nice on a few of the stems... like kicks, toms, bass and any I thought might muddy up together and the masking feature is quite nice. I think in 3 the mix balancing thing is the biggest chime.. and the machine learning looks more accurate. I wonder about the CPU of running several instances might be with the new version also... Great vid
I would love to hear a full mix, this is intriguing. This seems to get you to a "good" starting point for a really good mix in a short amount of time. Some one like me with only a little bit of experience, I seem to waste a lot of time trying to even get a balance. I really want to hear more.
Do a mixdown. I used neutron 2 for some time, but skipped it completely. So it would be interesting to know if Neutron 3 is a real help in the future and worth the update path.
I gave it a try today. Still not useful to me. My test mix was quite better than what the mix assistant suggested. Maybe Warren Huart is right: your ears are what counts.
Neutron 4 will also automatically make this video to check if it's snake oil or not...
EShy It’s conscious at this point, because it can itself say if its snake oil or not. Haha
and Neutron 5 will program Neutron 6
neutron 7 will start the nuclear world war!
Neutron 8 will become God and jumpstart The Big Bang 2.0
@@chriswellz5993 which will bring us back to Neutron 1
probably going to spawn a million new online mixing services where the 'mixing engineer' just throws it into neutron 3 lol
Jordan Mills LANDR = Ozone
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I guess im randomly asking but does anybody know of a method to log back into an instagram account?
I was stupid forgot my password. I would love any tips you can offer me.
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@Kyler Messiah thanks so much for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm in the hacking process now.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
If you had the time, and since this plugin appears to be at the high end of the "auto-mixing" market, I would love to see you mix a track yourself, then get Neutron to do it's version, and then compare the two with commentary on, for example, the main moves you made, the main moves Neutron made and obviously whatever issues and observations arise from the comparrison.
I agree that this would probably be even better than mixing a track solely with Neutron 3 because it shows how close the plug-in can get to an experienced mixing engineer. Please do this!
That's an awesome idea. I'd volunteer... if I actually knew what I was doing outside of tweaking presets :)
Oh boy, this!!!!!
please do this
I really doubt Neutron can get anywhere close to the same results as doing EVERYTHING manually, but if you only made the same types of adjustments that Neutron was limited to then that would be an interesting comparison.
My most recent track that I'm going to be uploading in a few days was damn near completely mixed with Neutron 3. I did a complete mix before I got it. Then I started over with using about 95% Neutron 3.
I will say that my first mix was better, but only slightly. And with the difference in time, I felt I was able to compensate for the tonality difference of the track when mastering it. With me it was days to mix (I'm slow I have a traumatic brain injury, haha) using LOTS of different plugins vs a couple hours to "auto-mix" (with tweaking obviously, haha) using almost all Neutron 3.
I kept a saturation plugin on my guitars from the first mix that I liked, that Neutron wasn't quite getting me towards. But I still don't really know the ins and outs of Neutron yet. And obviously delays/reverbs/amp sims/etc. (all the stuff Neutron doesn't do). I have to say Neutron is DEFINITELY my favorite mixing tool now. Izotope is scary amazing at what they pull off!
After the autobalancing in all reviews I’ve seen still some changes had to be made to make it just right. So it’s not completely automatic (thankfully) and is just like the track assistant more of a starting point. Especially since sonic balances might change through arrangement differences in a song making adjustments needed antways. Seems to work quite decent indeed, thanks for the clear review as always.
Thx for listening to our comments!
Yes, do a full mixdown with neutron 3.
I think neutron 3 was a good evolution of its kind.
I just found this channel recently.I find these videos to be really helpful.I just love how honest you are about your opinion.keep up the work
Yes, mix a song with it. I have Neutron 2 and I want to see reviews of 3 before I upgrade.
Check out my channel I did mix a song from start to finish using Neutron 3. Check it and let me know your thoughts.
It’s a big difference. I just upgraded after doing the 10 day free trial.
You're asking someone who doesn't mix to mix 🙄. You got snaked 😂
Well worth the upgrade
5:15 i would like to see you do a video on what clashing vs no clashing sounds like with different instruments such as guitar and piano, synth and rhodes or something. im sure you would figure it out well and explain greatly. but i hear this term so often and i fear i am not paying attention for it and thus am getting a poor mix because i dont know what i dont know im looking for 😅 ive looked into it as much as i belive i can and still feel uninformed about the issue in whole. if you could go in depth about it more in the future id love to watch it!
Hey Man, you are actually pretty awesome. Keep it up. You probably have the most transparent (honest) reviews on youtube.
I really dig your advice. As a sound engineer, Some of these plugg ins are taking much of the actual 'talent' and 'organic human' element. I dont think most people realize what they can do with the modules built in, such as ableton etc. obviously plugg inns are a fun and great way to add a certain shimmer, or clarity, or distortion harmonics. You have probably one of the most HONEST and REALISTIC preospectives Ive heard. Excellent work. Namaste
How about headroom? Does mix assistant adjust for a healthy volume?
As we can see in the video, the focus point (piano) is on 0db and everything else drops below that in volume, so yes.
That's it's primary role.
You should make a plugin called “Snake Oil” 😂
"It will make any track in your mix sound better and more analog" and it just applies a simple eq curve
And don’t forget a knob that mixes in static and noise samples!
@GTA Game Place Like that!
@GTA Game Place that's great, instead of a knob, just an on/off button, a big red one
And it makes it intentionally sound like @55.
I would like to see you use Ozone 9. I just purchased it recently and would like to see someone with your knowledge use it .
I want to see full mixdown with more elements of the track with weird frequency ranges! so we know what are the limits of neutron 3. Mixing engineers nightmare is getting close!
The balance is good for gain staging and as a starting point, but different genres need different balancing according to the instruments, the focus doesnt really tackle that.
It was not entirely wrong, but the mix assistant balancing is actually intended as gain staging before you add a channel strip (like neutron 3). So you can make sure you are not processing too hot. When you watch a tutorial, they use Relay at the beginning of every fx-chain on the dry signal.
Thats weird, the mix assistant asked me to put a Relay at the end of each channel strip as well.... 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@Whiteseastudio
I mean, if it is able to adjust gain of dry stems, why shouldn't it be able to do the same with processed stems? I just tested it with a project, where I added Relay and Neutron 3 on every track.
If you use the balance assistant with Neutron it adjusts its output gain. Which is good. I mean, you wouldn't want to fuck up input gain after you set your compressor.
On their website it says: "If you already have other insert effects loaded on channels, or if you’d like to use Visual Mixer to control levels and panning in your mix, the Relay should be placed at the end of each track’s FX chain." So it is not wrong as I said.
But if you would want to let the ai mix everything, I suggest you let it adjust gain at the beginning, before doing anything else. Like the tutorial: th-cam.com/video/HQgAzYKmo2k/w-d-xo.html
yes I would like to see the entire mixdown with Neutron 3. In addition for a later review I would like to see you do a mixdown with what you consider the best of the best plugins ending in mastering.
It can’t replace hearing but sets up a decent starting point
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Play with the assistant parameters prior to running assistant for the best results. Choosing the instrument type, flavor of processing, and strength of processing is a great way to get not only a balanced sound, but one with some attitude. I really like using the warm setting on midrange/upper midrange instruments for punch, body, and definition. Broadband clarity is much more neutral processing that’s great for things like piano that cover most of the spectrum depending upon the arrangement, and upfront is excellent for problematic tracks that can get buried in the mix. I also personally like using the upfront setting on certain percussion elements like tambourine that have lots of extra mid and low mid noise that doesn’t necessarily serve the mix. It’s all very dependent on the overall arrangement, but making those choices can make a world of difference.
Reviews p good, i feel like you were unaware about the mix % though, that would have been good to use with the sculptor.
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@White Sea Studio
Did you do the “mix a track with Neutron” video?
I love iZotope for pushing technology forward. But with Neutron and Ozone, regardless the version, I always feel like trading "emotion & soul" for technical precision...
You can always adjust stuff.
I see it as a tool that suggests or kind of points me some directions I could take.
Like an assistant :))
Like a coffee machine: espresso light, medium... coffee, two coffees, cappuccino...
Now, I could do those myself or press a button, of course.
But what this plugins do: SAVE time, when you also have so many other life things to do.
I mean, try adding a spectral shaper, two eq-s, compressor, saturation and a leveler...
By the time I wrote this phrase above, Neutron already added and tweaked some things for me.
I’d love to see it on a full real instrument mix with 12-16ch of raw drums, all the vocal overdubs, multi-mic guitars adding up to 48-96 channels of audio. I’d be shocked if it got so close to a final product. I think I have an upgrade waiting for me with music production suite 2 so I’ll check it out myself at some point.
I hope you have a good CPU. : D
PhilouGanJa DuB-SelecToR i9 9900k, 64GB RAM, Aorus Z390 Xtreme, too many SSDs.. I should be good ;)
@@michaeljperrotta4142 You should be very good. LOL
I was and early adopter of their spire studio.. firstly, amazing customer service, but lets get beyond that, alot of their products are in fact as walking the snake oil line. I like you how you put it. I really hoped something like this would work better, because if Im a musician first, and secondly a producer, I might really want to put those features on auto-pilot.. the fact of the matter is this entire concept is flawed from the beginning. if you are using algorhyhthms to force your mix to be within constraints of normalness is pretty much garunteeing it sounds like everything else. I like a unique sounding mix.. and not just generic sounding.
Yay! Go Neutron 3! I like how u are comfortable with your opinions man. Keep it up
I can imagine what a new haircut brings, but I have no idea what spectral shaping could be.
I recommend to use the Waves L2 as much as possible as hard as possible and Spectral Audio Neptune is a fantastic Synth !
No solo or mute function in the virtual mixer that's a pity or I didn't see that and in studio one the track names are not taken over when I insert a relay why a button to lock in the virtual mixer would be nice to have for example the kick when I move it stays in the middle.
Please add the technical side of using, and how to use it correctly. Im having issues getting the Relay/tracks to link with the Nuetron/master mix assistant. - Do I have to mix assist Every Track BEFORE I use the mix assistant on the master??... Some tracks I dont want to use their eq etc etc. I only spent a few mins trying to figure it out.. so hopefully just a quick fix.
You could read the manual. I'm sure you'll find the answer. :D
PhilouGanJa DuB-SelecToR I did, I basically have it setup correctly. & even tried on a New empty mix to make sure. Im starting to think it was a fucked up download. My only other thing would be because im using an Old ass pirated version of FL... which might now have whats needed for it to work 🤔 Im pissed but over it at the same time, I can still use the mix assistant on the Master no? If not atleast on separate tracks, just cant use it for wtf I paid for 👎🏻
@@TomKaosOfficial Hi, I don't know FL Studio very well. Maybe it’s because of that. What version are you using?
@@TomKaosOfficial Try the last version (you can find a good one at audioz.download/)
Cur-Sed_Chopstix Wtf are you talking about, FL20 with all the plugins is $900 lol. Unless im missing something. I wonder if I uninstall mine, I could still have the plugins used on a purchased version.
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Neutron 3 is a game changer for people new to mixing. The dynamic eq and sidechaining for the kick and bass is convenient
yes do a mix down! por favor! - & don't worry about comments testing your emotional stability-ur probably the best tutorial/tester of plugins out there -vry informative & vry funny :)
Will do!
how exactly do you use this though? do you just instantiate it as an insert on each track and then again on the master bus for the balancing?
I'm with you almost 90% of the time in philosophy and weighting - i.e. how you think. I tend to revert to basic tools, because I know exactly how they work, and I'm wary of "auto" and sensing stuff. But I'm sitting on the fence with "spectral shaping". At first, I thought - that's just EQ and compression. But it isn't - it's a real-time reactive EQ (in most implementations) and maybe some of them are doing real-time reactive compression (not sure who is or isn't). But even with the case of the real-time reactive EQ, that's clearly better. I used to use matching EQ's as detection meters (never as a final EQ), until I realized that a static EQ match is just too inaccurate for a moving piece of audio. But I think maybe spectral processing is going to get us to new places. It's still just a tool, and one best used by a conscious decision maker. I just generally find I can get most things done with EQ and compression. Great review though, and I love this channel.
Did you ever do a full mix down video of this yet
Hey! Amazing content.....have you already done the full mix with Neutron 3? Couldn't find it in the channel!
I would love to see you do a full mix session with N3 as your copilot. They’ve maintained that the idea is really about getting you started by doing the grunt work, but not the finishing work. I recently picked this up for a help on a film score and it worked alright - but taking the project one cue at a time still takes time and I did run into consistency issues with the over design of each track. On an individual basis it was solid though :)
Yes please do a mix... Looking to upgrade from Neutron 2. So far most of the reviews have been positive...
I don't know much about mixing but Neutron Elements version is currently free for a limited time and I really appreciate the fact that I can see what the changes I make are actually doing a signal and it is all in one nice interface. I like it a lot.
I love neutron 3 but I have a question with masking meter.
I am a beginner.
So first I put relays on all tracks.
As I understand, I can only compare masking on 1 neutron track one with one other tracks at a time.?
For example, I can unmask bass and drums only?
What if I want to unmask my vocals or guitars to all tracks?
I am worried about masking from any track
When I check for masking, is there a way to put neutron on one track and compare it to all tracks?
I don't want to get a CPU overland.
What if I bus all the other tracks to one aux track and compare the a neutron track to the total mix?
Like the vocals to every other track?
This should unmask that track.
Could I do this another way.?
Thanks
Any help would be so helpful.
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I have mixed many of my songs .but i feel like my mixes are so muddy.
But could u guys please listen and tell me what to do?
At this point , it is so frustrating that I would appreciate any advice from anyone.
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one of my first comments on youtube for ages to tell you what you already know: yes i definitly want to see you going more in depth with this! and thanks man
If by spectral shaping you're referring to multiband; its way more fire and floats with the audio's dynamics in ways that traditional eqs & compressors cant
Did we miss a full mixdown using neutron? Can't find it on your channel.
As I've said elsewhere, Neutron 3 is great for establishing a good starting point on your tracks. I've done a full mix with the new Mix Assistant and, again, it gives a good balanced baseline from which to begin tweaking the mix with your other favourite plugins to get the results you desire. If you're new to this game or just don't have the experience or confidence to get going on a mix, Neutron can definitely help.
Hmm I have Neutron I never upgraded to 1 or 2 I use it now and again but I have my own way of gain staging and I have my plug in favourites. I have Bitwig studio 3 these days still learning all it can do
I bought the suite when it was on sale as well and think they really are amazing and the inter-plugin functionality is really clever! Definitely not Snake-Oil right?! iZotope are making some really good plugins and you are making great videos man.. I love watching your stuff! I bought Ozone 9 recently so time to watch your review of that next!
Would also like to see you do a full mix-down with Neutron 3!! 🙌🏼
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You post some of the best videos available on TH-cam. Thank you man! BTW, could you Snake Oil Review McDSP plugins? Blessings!
please do the mix WHITE!!!
Yes, I'd love to see a full mixdown!
You should do a whole mix/mastering session with Neutron for mixing and Ozone for Mastering!!!
Would love to see you do bassroom by mastering the mix, getting a ton of love on gearslutz and kvr 🤔
eisbardotdot YES!! He needs to make a video on Bassroom!! 😬🙏🏻
I've not watched this video yet just read the comments. It's a good starting point this plugin, just using the auto function should only be a starting point, not just using that. I've tried it and it doesn't always choose the same settings on the same sound. It's good use to see which are the affected areas are that need to be tamed but anyone serious shouldn't rely on this to mix your tracks.
Kurt'O Hey, good to read you are not getting the same settings on the same sound! Are you using N3 or N2? I only tested this with my N2, but will now try this with the N3! Thanks. (Still, $149 upgrade... :-( )
I don't even need that starting point, will end up change everything anyway. Plugin don't know my aesthetic preference.
people are obsessed with spectral shaping because on paper, it seems like the quickest way to hit a reference like balance for a commercial mix without having to go backtrack your entire signal chain for where those changes were to actually happen. it comes with loads it's own problems obviously. it's sometimes what producers end up doing when they're working on projects with no budget for an engineer and very, very limited time.
Yes! make that video, if you need a multitrack i could send you one from a song that i own.
Please e-mail me!
@@Whiteseastudio done! ithank you!
I've got 2 more days to decide if I want to upgrade for the 299 sale price from Music Production Suite 1. Think it's worth it? Of course it's worth it but man, I've spent so much on plugins this and last year. I'm wondering if it ever ends. I only make music for myself right now and I don't know if I'll ever be an audio engineer so I do feel I could get by perfectly fine with what I have.
As someone who works with clients on a budget. Izotope has been a god send. Can get really good mixes faster for those clients with the starting point that those plugins suggest. That way I leave my precious time for the clients that can afford it.
I love your attitude and I learn a lot from your help
I did try it letting it make the eq/compression decision, leaving the pan settings and a touch of fx to me. All "neutronized" faders to 0, but I also fine tuned the plugin out level and sometimes used the output limiter to bring forward quieter parts of the tracks. Globally, I'm disappointed by the mix engine, mostly because it makes no panning decisions. I must say I tried on live drums and recognizing snare top/bottom or kick in/out is too much to ask for current IA :-) But, I was impressed by its analysis of individual tracks or stems. The spectral shaping tool (called sculptor) is not as good as Gullfoss imho. I found that in many cases, especially when time is short, neutron 3 can prove a remarkable assistant.
Yes I would like to see a mixdown or more than 1 (different music genres), with neutron 3. :)
You take 'keeping it real' to another level. Loved this video. Echoes many of my reactions ...
I've had this plugin for a bit. Shelled for advanced. I find balance to be complete garbage. Track enhance is hit or mis and mostly miss.
The plugin as a plugin full of tools is actually really good though. The eq is one of the nicest I have ever used and that includes pro-q (excludes hardware though obviously).
So my thoughts are: plugin is great, automatic features don't work well at all.
Is there any other plugin except fab filter you like.
I’m impressed too. I’d love to see a mix also. Thanks!
Thank you for reviewing!!! Would love to see a mixdown video!
I always wondered, do you use snake oil for your hair?
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@@Whiteseastudio Must be expensive! Hahah, keep up the videos. Always interesting to watch :D
I would like to see the full mix. I have been awaiting your review. I purchased this and am blown away. I had a couple of tunes that I had difficulty with then applying Neutron 3 found a much better mix.
Nice video, as usual. I have VERY mixed feelings about the sculptor module, and would be curious to hear you talk more about spectral shaping, and its creating more problems than it solves...
Like the Izotope plugins even if I only have the elements versions.
But anyhow: could you please making a video on how to postprocess / mix dialogue recordings with (mainly) free plugins? Like for a podcast or videos of speeches or presentations. Thank you!
Is sculptor pretty much Gullfoss?
Yes, it is a dynamic EQ that tries to match your signal to a target profile.
Ozone's Spectral Shaper has 32-Bands. I think it is the same with Sculptor. Izotope had something called "Neutrino". Which was basically an early black box version of sculptor.
+1 to see more mixdowns. Cheers
A full mixdown with Neutron 3 or a master with Ozone would be awesome just to see how you use it, I have both but still am better/quicker with alot of other plugins partly due to CPU spikes with the graphics (seems to be a problem with my PC and Cubase but plugins with heaps of analysers spike CPU when the window is open but not when closed and still on).
Neutron would have really helped me when I was new to ableron and I was completely held back by my lack of mixing skills... I would over analyze the parts that my ears were not yet able to even hear instead of focusing on the parts I could control and I would get so discouraged. Mixing skills take many years to develop and refine. I think this plugin would be perfect for people new to mixing as they could approach it more as a guide or a reference to compare to their mixes and fast track learning and one day they will have a mix that sounds better than the AI... All these AI and midi plugins are cool for beginners but will never get you a sound that anyone would want to listen to... Audio production seems to attracts many that like the idea of being an audio engineer or producer but perhaps don't actually enjoy the work
Yes, a full mix would be a great video.
Hell yeah, I'd love to see a full mixdown!
The be-all and the end to all audio goodness explanation and who I am.
To be-all means to be the best the very best the top tear like you did it with the example of RX, it's holy right? Then RX is your to be-all for your audio repairs and fixings. I also am an audio engineer except on the opposit end was self taught through ableton. The end to all audio goodness means it's taking the top spot it means sort of the same thing, however instead of all the other good audio equipment out there this takes the top spot in your rack.
Hope this helps this is my first video of yours I am watching and you have a really nice approach to your videos. Other peeps "other people/ content creators" are too hyper, another thing I also really liked is the FPS for the video! 60 frams seems the same at 720p your 50 FPS make a hell of a difference aka ("Also Known As") a big difference. Going to subscribe for more reviews. I am on the fence about Izotope I have trash 2, and I feel like I wasted my money on a distortion plugin that sounds the same on everything, wondering if you have a review of trash 2? Hope to hear back from you.
-A new fan and Producer :D. Have a great day and thanks for your time if you do get the chance to read this.
Edit: Btw the reason why spectral shaping is getting to be a bigger topic is because of the fact is it's realitively new in the EDM world. Spectral dynamics dramatically shapes the new way a song is produced, and how new equipment can help us achieve the same bright clean cripsy sounds without pushing the wav file, and young producers didn't even think of the other side of mixing aka the dynamics. If you ever analize one of deamau5s tracks his track is mastered at -85 db however his dynamics are bright and full. I am sure you know this already. The difference is the industry is changing to focus more on dynamics and spectral is realitively unknown to the new producers. Here's what I've figured, since we are now in a zone of "loudness wars" when you upload your track to youtube, soundcloud, spotify or some other platform, there is always going to be adjusted to the "lufs" a new term called "Loudness Units Full Scale" (source :www.warpacademy.com/current-trends-in-mastering/) if you want to read the full article.
It's just a trendy word right now, and seeing differences it in a spectral analyzer helps greatly.
Have a great day!
hi, cans you please review dmg audio limitless? is it snakeoil or not? i am a limiter licker.
Nice review. It'll be nice if you -------- DO THE MIX.
Yeah sculptor is like an eq but some kind of surfer EQ, I mean is not fixed in the time
I own Ozone and Neutron, but never use it. I personally believe when you're making electronic music with the best possible sound sources, these tools give you the impression you need to 'fix' things that aren't broken. I can imagine it's very powerful when you're recording real instruments under less perfect conditions. But if your library is recorded in Air or Abbey, I will not touch it and trust the legendary engineers who recorded them.
For orchestral music with lots of strings, piano, brass i dont like the neutron 3 assistant, it doesn’t work for me... maybe for some pop songs it work good, but not for me. Anyway thank you for your video ;-)
There is right now an interesting offer on iZotope WEB which includes Neutron 3 Elements and several other basic plug-ins:
www.izotope.com/en/products/bundles/music-essentials-bundle.html
Note that they are all Elements kind plug-ins, so not the Full Monty ones. But for US$49 I think they are worth a try! 👍
I would love a thorough review of Neutron 3. As an owner of most Izotope products, and admirer of RX, Ozone, Iris, and Trash, I have come to the conclusion that all the “smart” “advisor” stuff is snake oil. Especially when compared with stuff from Sonible, Oeksound, and the Gulfoss guys. My worst disappointment with my Neutron 2 Advanced was when I placed it on a track and let it do its “advising”. I accepted all its recommendations and inserted another Neutron after it. I let it do its listening and, OH!, it recommended exactly the same settings that the previous instance was already implementing!!! This is not A.I.! This just identifies what instrument it is listening to (I could have told it!), and then recommends the same preset! SNAKE OIL! Please try this test! (Also bad is that N2 was very CPU intensive, which Izotope admit and say they fixed in N3, so we get the “benefit” of an upgrade price of “just” us$149!!. Really disappointing coming from this company.) Unless you convince me otherwise with a good review, Neutron (and Nectar, for similar reasons), will be out of my list. Thanks!!
Yeah, please make a full mix with Neutron 3 please!!
Would love to see you do a full mix on Neutron 3
This appeals to folks who want a quick box for their internet music. That's fine. It may be the way our youngsters are doing things for now, and it'll be their learning point as they mature.
Yo, please show us a complete mixdown with neutron 3. If possible mixing electronic music.
3 looks nice... with 2 I found it was nice on a few of the stems... like kicks, toms, bass and any I thought might muddy up together and the masking feature is quite nice. I think in 3 the mix balancing thing is the biggest chime.. and the machine learning looks more accurate. I wonder about the CPU of running several instances might be with the new version also... Great vid
Definitely want to see the Neutron 3 mixdown.
Please mix a song with neutron 3
I am so confused.
Check out my channel I did mix a song from start to finish using Neutron 3. Check it and let me know your thoughts.
borderline delusion Yea same here, Ozone8 basically does the same but its Mastering... so why are we Eqing two or more times?? lol
Very very important snake oil!
Really great work by that plugin! ♥️
to become a full fledged mixer what series of books would you advise me to read thank you very much.
We'd love to see a full video! We even have some multitracks we can send your way if you'd like to test it on something you've never heard before.
I would love to hear a full mix, this is intriguing. This seems to get you to a "good" starting point for a really good mix in a short amount of time. Some one like me with only a little bit of experience, I seem to waste a lot of time trying to even get a balance. I really want to hear more.
Great video. Keep up the good work! I'd like to see you a complete mix of a song with only Neutron 3.
Do a mixdown. I used neutron 2 for some time, but skipped it completely. So it would be interesting to know if Neutron 3 is a real help in the future and worth the update path.
I gave it a try today. Still not useful to me. My test mix was quite better than what the mix assistant suggested. Maybe Warren Huart is right: your ears are what counts.
pls do a full mix. tnx