This is one of the plugins that can become a lethal sound design weapon in the right hands. Basic DSP knowledge, the manual, the time to learn it and an appetite for experimentation are probably all mandatory (first modifying the presets, then writing own algos). But then, you aren't limited to designing nice reverbs to sound the way you want them any more, you can also abuse this plug to the moon and back to create sounds that aren't even meant to come out of a reverb.Such a genious plugin, thank you Melda, love you guys!
The melda stuff is absolutely great and deep, even the free bundle has some goodies inside, once you´ve got the basics that work similar in every melda plugin it helps a lot, and the multiparameters are so powerful, same with frequency followers, envelopes, lfos as modulators, you can build your own stuff - and make your own easy screen so other users don´t have to go as deep as you - i really love the melda stuff, for example i´ve made a filter with a pitch follower, the pitch follower is feeded with the bassdrum via side chain, the filter goes on with the bd ( via follower) and follows the frequency of the bassdrum (like mentioned with frequency follower) to cut exactly out space on a bass track for the bassdrum
Lol, you didn't even touch on the fact EVERYTHING CAN BE MODULATED, AND CROSS-MODULATED!... Also, this is their flagship reverb product and they make several cheaper and much simpler reverbs. Melda are ridiculously deep and always consistent. A COMPLETE modulation section and themes are standard features in every Melda plug in.
No impulse responses with algoritmic reverbs, just math. And yeah, one should really study for days to fully understand the plugin. I woud say it's a great tool for sound designers.
Melda are always turning it up to 11 with their plugin capabilities. They give you features and functions you didnt even realise you needed. I like that. You get what you pay for with them. They are expensive but they deliver. I’m spending all my plug-in budget on their stuff these days and I am not disappointed. I’ll have to start doing reviews of my own so that they can send me free stuff too lol. Anyway. This video was entertaining. Love your work.
Melda are my favorite plug ins, hands down for in depth mixing/mastering and effects , you can really go down the rabbit hole. The kind of tools you can grow into for years to come . I am constantly finding interesting techniques and stumbling across new possibilities not even remotely available in any other plug ins. Their multi-band processing alone on a wide variety of tools is super powerful and super practical for day to day mixing and mastering...coupled with sidechaining, mid side processing and modulation they become a whole microcosm of sonic exploration and sound surgery. They may not be the first choice for those looking for an on the fly tracking session plug-in with a hardware style GUI , but for mixing and mastering, and sound design ...they are essential, and super forward thinking. They have updated the graphics on some of their GUI's on V15 which might make them a little more accessible , but you always have the option of peeking under the hood if you are feeling adventurous..
producer: reflection 32, you're just a little bit to early we're going to have to demote you by 10ms and reduce your volme by 20% Reflection 32: *pikachu shocked face*
I’ve been ‘collecting’ Melda plugins for a few years now. First their wonderful Freebies , then a few individual plugins here and there. Then the smaller bundles as deals came around. Then just last week, June 2023, for their 15th Anniversary they offered me their Complete Bundle for SILLY money !!! Snapped up immediately. Now, I had been trundling along with their various Reverbs. All nice sounding. The MTurboReverb LE gives you the same Presets but without the Detailed Edit button. But now, thanks to their Anniversary deal, I have it All … All I tell you !! Muahahahaha !!! 👹 I too am presently 'Too Stupid' … but there’s hope 🙄
Here's my hateful two cents: I don't think they put the word turbo in the NAME of the car just to make it sound better... I think it has "a little something" to do with the internals of the car.
Exactly. I agree. They have another simpler reverb plugin as well as the LE version of this. Turbo always means over the top for Melda and they deliver the good every time tr put the word Turbo in the name. They have some plugins and instruments which are so next level that they deserve to have the turbo prefix but don’t. Like MDrummer and that amazing new synth which is still in beta.
cars nowadays have such small motors in them that the turbo is not even in there to make it faster but to make it function at all. so it IS just a fancy name for something that is essentially normal
Melda plugins are a sound designer's wet dream. Check out MXXX - it incorporates ALL their effect plugins in one big modular interface. You can even nest MXXX in MXXX. And then there is MSoundFactory (currently in beta), a polyphonic modular synth which ALSO allows you to use all of their effects right in the same interface.
Yes, no sampled impulse response (convolution), but algorithmic reverbs still create a response to an impulse (the signal that you feed in). Check Wikipedia for "finite impulse response" (FIR) and "infinite impulse response" (IIR) to get a better grasp on what "impulse responses" really are. BTW, there are also reverb plugins that combine sampled impulse responses (convolution approach) with algorithmic processing.
Over time I think I would learn all of the ins and outs and it would not be too complicated at all. I love it. Wish they would send me that, I would use it I'm sure.
Nice and honest overview :). I am a programmer, but my eyes also started bleeding as I saw this parameter forest. I admit, when it comes to reverbs I mostly start with a preset, tweak it, done.
Melda makes some incredible stuff, but they often sacrifice speed and usability for control and features. I’ve found a few of their tools (multi-band limiter, filter, multi-band distortion) interesting, but time-consuming to use. Solid review, with a good dose of your usual humor!
I went from Reason to Digital Performer to Reaper and couldn't be happier. The last year I've been going to Melda from Kontakt and Fabfilter, no regrets yet.
This is probably the deepest algorithmic reverb available as a plug in anywhere. It does a pretty good job of dividing the interface between everyday stuff and the very deep layers in the edit mode. It sounds pretty good (for a plug in) I use it as my 'go to' algorithmic reverb. Melda run regular promotions where selected plugins are available for a limited time for 50% off the normal price so even though its expensive if you have patience it can be less. Normally I like your reviews but in this case you can't really thrash about at random in something like this and expect to convey a useful impression of its strengths and weaknesses. At its deeper level its a programming tool so how easy it is to use should be compared with a script based programming environment, in which case the forest of parameters suddenly begins to look less intimidating. Programming takes time effort and knowledge though whatever the interface.
I'm a Melda fan. I love bland GUIs. I often wonder what goes on in the mind of their developers when they create these plugins. They are very involved. You don't see a lot of tutorials for their stuff. I think most of it is better for sound design. I do have this plugin and I got it for a lot less. The nice thing about Melda is there is no machine limit and all updates are free.
Melda is actually really cool company making incredible plugins, most people skip them because shitty looking graphical interface, but on the other hand their plugins support up to 100Hz refresh rate so visuals can look very smooth; for ex. MSpectralDynamics plugin they made in 2013 already is basically more delicate Oeksound Soothe or Soundtheory Gulfoss
I love how you go through every emotion of a plugin tester in one video. Excitement, confusion, frustration and then back to excitement when something cool happens.
What's great on this plugin, as all Melda plugins, is that people can share presets (and it's very easy to get it directly from the plugin itself!!) Some presets out there are really good! as user (not designer) I can get all I need and sometimes it's even fun to tune things also if I don't get exactly what's going on. There is also a possibility to get a graph of what you're doing.. that is helping me a lot. Moreover, the tutorial available is a great resource. I am really happy with that.
Hey man, I congratulate you for having a channel like the one you have, your observations are very reliable and your opinions about anything are very good, I have laughed a lot watching you try this marvel, Melda already has a place in my plugin arsenal and more with your opinions about it, if you see it well, I also see it well, thanks I wish you the best of this world.
Great informative video...... It shows that this reverb is more for sound CREATORs rather than mixers..... Mixers need to choose well known sounds & move along quickly to be productive..... Sound Creators, for ambient music or film & TV have more need to craft unique sounds & spaces, and this reverb looks perfect for these types of artists.
Reverb plugins (even stock plugins) have been way better than ie. Yamaha hw, and other mid-price reverb (1000-1500 $, €, £). I like the FabFilter PRO-F. For the price of about $150 the plugin is great. IMHO, hardware vs. software "war" is over, so is the loudness war. No winners. Take want you want and what your wallet can afford. Make music! And thank You for your vlog!
Their multiband autopan is by far my favorite spacialization tool I've ever used, hardware or software, the interface has always felt really intuitive for that kind of work, and I use MCompare and their free tuner quite a bit but for reverbs and delays I've never found them that satisfying to work with. Their interface paradigm is internally consistent across products and makes a lot of sense but to me some jobs need a simple, minimal interface like the Valhalla software (or better yet, well designed hardware). Kind of like how menu diving is perfectly fine in a hardware multi-effect unit or sampler or any sort of complex digital synth like a Wavestation or D-series Roland, where there are a lot of different tasks you can perform and keeping them organized into separate menus and submenus helps keep things manageable, but for something like a compressor or filter, I really want one knob per function. Complexity isn't inherently bad and simplicity is definitely not inherently good (some of the least user friendly devices are the kind that bury functions for the sake of superficial interface simplicity, like a lot of iPod era Apple products, and the 90s lower end Lexicon boxes like the Vortex and Jam Man did), it's when the level and form of complexity doesn't fit the actual function of a tool that it gets to be a problem.
Melda fills a niche that no one else does. Incredible depth, without requiring you to learn how to program a DSP (ala Reaktor or Max). It's not for everybody. There are plenty of options out there for those who just don't care to go this deep.
How is this not extremely usable? It's got all the controls of a generic reverb, just also happens to have a thousand more which r on another page u don't have to ever touch
@@Byronic19134 It's because of the UI clutter. If you use the plugin regularly and get accustomed to it, then it doesn't have to be a problem. If you're looking through your reverb plugins to find the right fit, this kind of interface can just make it take longer for you to get what you want. They've done a pretty decent job considering how deep this plugin is, but I'd personally still avoid it.
yeah, good sounding stuff, with some out-of-the-box thinking... but with an annoying interface that has a tendency to hide things and operate in a weird way...
Nice demo of the overkill turbo reverb by Melda. I've just recently fell into the Melda rabbit hole of extra shiny bits and baubles, AKA plug-ins. I've got the free 37 plug-in bundle of basic effects, which was the voluntary trap door to buy some more powerful, and customizable effects. I chose the middle tier, and picked a few stand alone effects, like multiband reverb, delay, distortion, the Maximizer limiter. These are the more sane mid level variants for now. But I do really like all things TURBO! So eventually and probably inevitably, Melda will use the force and make me buy some turbo level effects.
Like to hear what you think about UAD Unison plugins. I have just bought a Apollo twin Duo, and I think it sounds pretty good. Be interested to hear what you think.
Good luck. He's UAD phobic. You'll love your Apollo. I got one and a Satellite right in between a couple of specials, so I ended up with a whole slew of Unison channel strips, VOXBOX, the whole Analog Classics Pro Bundle (with the new, not Legacy versions of all the classic EQs and compressor collections), Auto-Tune, and more for 50 USD. They are amazing. They do suffer from the aliasing problem he talked about in one of his recent videos, but the Unison preamps are the best you can get without buying a console. The only thing in the digital world that is better are Klanghelm compression and saturation plugins, but you just can't beat the Unison preamps. Both of the UAD 610s are gorgeous, the Neve is warm and open, and you can push the EQ to the max and it still sounds natural, open, and warm. The VOXBOX is amazing and the SSL 4000 E ain't too shabby when you're wanting a more transparent sound.
@@xaosnox Yeah i'm already hearing a big difference in my recordings. Everything feels more polished. i haven't tried any vocals yet but if they sound as good as the guitars and bass I don't think I have much to worry about. For someone who will be doing everything in the box, I think it's the way to go
im a new fan of yours and love your reviews. i love how blunt you are. im also a HUGE fan of melda and everything i have tried i have loved, so maybe that skews my opinions? idk, but heres mine. although i agree it is expensive, it offers a level of flexibility that no other reverb has done that i have ever seen. the controls are not so bad when you understand what things are doing, but as you said, it requires a knowledge of what you are looking at. most melda plugins are complex compared to their equivalent, but offer a lot of flexibility that you dont see in 99% of plugins. i havent actually tried MTurboReverb yet, but looking at it certainly makes me want to. that is an insane amount of control for a reverb! that said, the problem with plugins as flexible as that is that it is easy to get sucked in and waste time on stuff that doesnt really matter. as you said, most people like to hear what they are used to hearing. personally i do sway towards the experimental side, so for me it opens a lot of doors. the only thing for me that beats melda plugins are modular environments, such as reaktor, but then you start looking at a different genre completely. i think those presets might have come from general measurements rather than impulse responses. it is an algorithmic reverb rather than an impulse response reverb, so i would guess (but could be wrong) that they were designed using distance measurements and an idea of the properties of the materials in the space. at the beginning you mentioned about using the word "turbo" in a car to make it sound better. i think that analogy works in this case because a "turbo" in a car is an actual thing that actually affects the performance of the car. its the same with MTurboReverb, it actually has something that makes it better.
Just join their mailing list and wait for them to put MXXX on sale and you get EVERY Melda plugin (including all their Turbo plugins, Spectral Dynamics and all the other amzing stuff) in a wrapper app that allows you to run anything from single instances to really complex series/parallel/sidechain matrix's. On sale its about $500
Agreed with one of the previous comments. Melda is trying to overcomplex things that should be intuitive, or at least usable in everyday work! For me, best reverbs are the one by Voxengo (straightforward and free) and FabFilter (used it for full trial time, sadly, too pricey).
Pro-R is great, and they have been running a 40% off special. Don't know if it's over, but Total Bundle was the best investment I ever made. FabFilter does everything right, including eliminating aliasing with their oversampling. With FF and the UAD-2 Neve, SSL, and UAD channel strips plus their Classic Analog Pro Bundle, I feel pretty well equipped to do just about anything. I've got a few old favs, like the Neutron 2 version of Breath Control, which they ruined in v 3, but
Dikkery Dok - it depends on what your definition of “everyday work” is. There are a lot of audio engineers who work in Foley, sound design and creation for films, major advertising, trailers; who would find tools like this very useful - and doing that kind of audio IS an everyday thing at studios like Skywalker, Hacienda, Digipost; and many other post production studios in places like LA, Vancouver, London, NYC... There’s a very big world of audio production outside of bedroom studios ... and a LOT more money to be made in that part of the audio industry than you can make recording local bands for $30 per hour. 😉
Donny Thompson True, but foley is a unique part of a sound recording, that a priori requires special tools. Using them in a more popular market will just drag sound designers down. Just an IMHO.
I found the same thing with Melda stuff. I brought a bundle but hardly use it because they're so overwhelming. Nice, but complex just to do a simple task.
This probably has more value for sound designers, for film and such. I feel it's just too much to dabble around for music. In Reaper alone, I sometimes design by reverb fx bus with stock plugins and even with those, it's too much sometimes. Chaining at least three fx on the bus, Reaverb, ReEq, and ReaComp, the possibilities are endless. But it would be great to try this just to hear some unique sonic palettes.
Yeah, if I was doing post work where I had to match the acoustics of ADR to location sound this thing would be a miracle. It seems like the more reasonable comparison would be between this and developing reverbs from scratch in Max/MSP or Reaktor with custom algorithms coded in C++, and compared to THAT this is incredibly user friendly. But compared to the sorts of plugins you typically find in music production, this is kind of overkill.
I think this plug-in would suit perfect for sound designers. For movies or something alike. It seems to be something that it needs some math. However, I like the actual reverb sounds.
OMG! I found this looking for a video for the MreverbMB and like......wow, this is crazy, way beyond my knowhow or reasonable needs but eh, Melda, f**king superstars of VST land....hats off! ;D
Hey, nice video and great channel! I've been curious at how deep MTReverb goes. I can't find an appropriate place to ask so here goes: Have you considered trying out Bitwig for mixing? I just made a dynamic EQ using standard devices and there are 2 and 3 band devices that hold a whole device chain per band to make your own MB FX. I especially would like to hear what you have to say about the Dynamics device which is both an expander and a compressor. I'm using the beta for v3 with the new modular environment (Grid) and when it is released you can try building your own compressors or whatever.
I am experimenting on sound for my own joy and therefore this thing is madness. Totally love it. You can do so crazy sound design and there isn't a thing it can't do. And sounding awesomely great :) You also just can use the easy mode reverb engine and get fantastic results in your mix in no time. As you wish. :) What an unmatched piece of treasure that is. I think Melda puts some other devs to shame who take such high prices for one reverb unit and you are very limited to what you can do. I mean, what else do you need when you got MTR? :o) And like with all Melda tools you can modulate nearly every parameter of the software...
this is a plugin made for composers and producers for sure. a mastering/mixing engineer doesn't have the time to get in and program a reverb from scratch, since their livelihood comes from getting tracks done quickly, as opposed to someone who spends a year making an album and can afford to spend an entire day fine tuning each reflection (delay tap)
Valhalla has everything I need.to get on with completing songs. I also love Zynaptiq’s, Adaptiverb for more experimental stuff: it’s a CPU hog but damn it sounds amazing.
I´m to stupid too. I can barely use MDelay. I tried the MSpectraldelay once and didn´t understand a Thing. Could be fun to create some samples with it for some experimental stuff or Dnb.
hahaha, i have MSpectraldelay too and despite continually trying to understand it, i'm still confused. i just twiddle with it until something sounds right
Love your videos! it would be great if you could turn your voice down/DAW playback up! I wanna crank this up to hear the verb but your voice is just way too loud. I actually routed my browser into Reaper with Loopback and hit it with a compressor. Keep up the good content!
I'm totally happy with Pro-R. Gives me all I've ever wanted out of a reverb, and I like it better than even the Lexicon. This sounds nice, but it seems like a potentially dangerous rabbit hole. I could see myself spending two hours making a reverb that ends up sounding like useless crap. I have enough to learn without getting a Ph.D. in reverb design. And the price is scary! Oh, and your thumbnails are hilarious. :-)
Wonderful plugins! If it's not for you, there are hundreds of other, simpler options out there. If the GUI keeps you away, that's probably for the best. I discovered Melda a few years ago; now my go-to for when I want to experiment a little (or a lot!)
I’m speechless! There’s a plugin you approve of???? Speechless. But I also respect your opinions, which is why I watch you. Would you say this goes against or exceeds the lexicon reverb plug-ins? Also, what is your opinion of Melda’s other plugins?
“So We are going to try it because I’m a beginner, jaaaaa!” 🤣😂🤣😂.....so far my personal favorite reverb plugin is the eventide blackhole, least cpu consuming I have ever seen on reverb plugin and can get really cool sounds.....but I’m really liking this one too.
It's actually rent-to-own of their complete bundle. It's extremely flexible. You can stop / start it at any time, and pickup right where you left off. They even credit you for any plugins you have bought in the past, toward the price of the full suite. And when you finish paying it off, it's yours for life, including all future updates. And as for updates, Melda plugins share a common framework. When updates are released, ALL plugins get updated. I really have a lot of respect for these guys (actually, it's mostly one genius guy).
Melda are my fav plugin company, but are prone to go full-geek a some plugins, just got MSoundFactory - OMG, full-geek - it's going to take me a few lifetimes to get to grips with.
this looks dope. it would be cool to use this to make like 999 impulses out of this, load them into a convolution reverb and not have to fuck with all the controls again
To be fair cars did actually have a turbine-driven forced induction device, a device from where the word turbo originates. It wasn't a marketing jargon.
Interresting plugin, looks like you can go really deep with it but it I do get a “programming a Yamaha DX7” kind of feel from it. It’s not for the faint of heart.
It's crazy so many options you have. It does however seem a bit overwhelming. The design however doesn't look very user-friendly, perhaps it's just me getting used to Valhallas simple design. Great video as always. I love when you read the information about the plugs-ins. It's always something about being the next revolutionary thing and it's very amusing to see.
I suggested this before too. Based on his usual complaints, I think he'd dig Manic Compressor. Sounds good, simple functional UI, loads of useful parameters. Next best thing to Fabfilter
4:04 *heavy breathing*
This is one of the plugins that can become a lethal sound design weapon in the right hands. Basic DSP knowledge, the manual, the time to learn it and an appetite for experimentation are probably all mandatory (first modifying the presets, then writing own algos). But then, you aren't limited to designing nice reverbs to sound the way you want them any more, you can also abuse this plug to the moon and back to create sounds that aren't even meant to come out of a reverb.Such a genious plugin, thank you Melda, love you guys!
The melda stuff is absolutely great and deep, even the free bundle has some goodies inside, once you´ve got the basics that work similar in every melda plugin it helps a lot, and the multiparameters are so powerful, same with frequency followers, envelopes, lfos as modulators, you can build your own stuff - and make your own easy screen so other users don´t have to go as deep as you - i really love the melda stuff, for example i´ve made a filter with a pitch follower, the pitch follower is feeded with the bassdrum via side chain, the filter goes on with the bd ( via follower) and follows the frequency of the bassdrum (like mentioned with frequency follower) to cut exactly out space on a bass track for the bassdrum
Lol, you didn't even touch on the fact EVERYTHING CAN BE MODULATED, AND CROSS-MODULATED!...
Also, this is their flagship reverb product and they make several cheaper and much simpler reverbs.
Melda are ridiculously deep and always consistent. A COMPLETE modulation section and themes are standard features in every Melda plug in.
No impulse responses with algoritmic reverbs, just math. And yeah, one should really study for days to fully understand the plugin. I woud say it's a great tool for sound designers.
Melda are always turning it up to 11 with their plugin capabilities. They give you features and functions you didnt even realise you needed. I like that.
You get what you pay for with them. They are expensive but they deliver. I’m spending all my plug-in budget on their stuff these days and I am not disappointed. I’ll have to start doing reviews of my own so that they can send me free stuff too lol.
Anyway. This video was entertaining. Love your work.
"This is for Airwindows"
Chris is really a genius...
Hello there, could you please review new neutron 3 by Izotope?
I'm pretty sure he did already. It's been out for a while now.
@@xaosnox Its been out for 3 days now, i think...
I think he reviewed Neutron 2, but I’d love to see his opinions on the new one
X S it just came out not even a week ago you’re confusing it with nectar 3 maybe
Melda are my favorite plug ins, hands down for in depth mixing/mastering and effects , you can really go down the rabbit hole. The kind of tools you can grow into for years to come . I am constantly finding interesting techniques and stumbling across new possibilities not even remotely available in any other plug ins. Their multi-band processing alone on a wide variety of tools is super powerful and super practical for day to day mixing and mastering...coupled with sidechaining, mid side processing and modulation they become a whole microcosm of sonic exploration and sound surgery. They may not be the first choice for those looking for an on the fly tracking session plug-in with a hardware style GUI , but for mixing and mastering, and sound design ...they are essential, and super forward thinking. They have updated the graphics on some of their GUI's on V15 which might make them a little more accessible , but you always have the option of peeking under the hood if you are feeling adventurous..
You can manually move the reflections?? That's pretty insane.
producer: reflection 32, you're just a little bit to early we're going to have to demote you by 10ms and reduce your volme by 20%
Reflection 32: *pikachu shocked face*
I’ve been ‘collecting’ Melda plugins for a few years now.
First their wonderful Freebies , then a few individual plugins here and there.
Then the smaller bundles as deals came around.
Then just last week, June 2023, for their 15th Anniversary they offered me their Complete Bundle for SILLY money !!! Snapped up immediately.
Now, I had been trundling along with their various Reverbs.
All nice sounding.
The MTurboReverb LE gives you the same Presets but without the Detailed Edit button.
But now, thanks to their Anniversary deal, I have it All … All I tell you !!
Muahahahaha !!! 👹
I too am presently 'Too Stupid' … but there’s hope 🙄
Here's my hateful two cents:
I don't think they put the word turbo in the NAME of the car just to make it sound better... I think it has "a little something" to do with the internals of the car.
In Meldas case it is actually named Turbo as a joke from the forums because its an oxymoron
Exactly. I agree. They have another simpler reverb plugin as well as the LE version of this. Turbo always means over the top for Melda and they deliver the good every time tr put the word Turbo in the name.
They have some plugins and instruments which are so next level that they deserve to have the turbo prefix but don’t. Like MDrummer and that amazing new synth which is still in beta.
cars nowadays have such small motors in them that the turbo is not even in there to make it faster but to make it function at all. so it IS just a fancy name for something that is essentially normal
Well the Porsche electric cars have turbo in their name even though it has no internal combustion engine.
Some cars have not a turbo, but a compressor built in. :D
Melda plugins are a sound designer's wet dream. Check out MXXX - it incorporates ALL their effect plugins in one big modular interface. You can even nest MXXX in MXXX. And then there is MSoundFactory (currently in beta), a polyphonic modular synth which ALSO allows you to use all of their effects right in the same interface.
Algorithmic or computational procedure means no impulse response (convolution). FYI
Yes, no sampled impulse response (convolution), but algorithmic reverbs still create a response to an impulse (the signal that you feed in). Check Wikipedia for "finite impulse response" (FIR) and "infinite impulse response" (IIR) to get a better grasp on what "impulse responses" really are. BTW, there are also reverb plugins that combine sampled impulse responses (convolution approach) with algorithmic processing.
Over time I think I would learn all of the ins and outs and it would not be too complicated at all. I love it. Wish they would send me that, I would use it I'm sure.
Nice and honest overview :). I am a programmer, but my eyes also started bleeding as I saw this parameter forest. I admit, when it comes to reverbs I mostly start with a preset, tweak it, done.
Yeah it might be one line of code, but it looks about as readable as a regular expression of that length
"Parameter forest", yeah, nice one.
the youtube audio geek has just been "out geeked".
Melda makes some incredible stuff, but they often sacrifice speed and usability for control and features. I’ve found a few of their tools (multi-band limiter, filter, multi-band distortion) interesting, but time-consuming to use. Solid review, with a good dose of your usual humor!
Couldn't agree more. I normally just give-up and use another company's plugin.
I went from Reason to Digital Performer to Reaper and couldn't be happier. The last year I've been going to Melda from Kontakt and Fabfilter, no regrets yet.
This is probably the deepest algorithmic reverb available as a plug in anywhere. It does a pretty good job of dividing the interface between everyday stuff and the very deep layers in the edit mode. It sounds pretty good (for a plug in) I use it as my 'go to' algorithmic reverb. Melda run regular promotions where selected plugins are available for a limited time for 50% off the normal price so even though its expensive if you have patience it can be less. Normally I like your reviews but in this case you can't really thrash about at random in something like this and expect to convey a useful impression of its strengths and weaknesses. At its deeper level its a programming tool so how easy it is to use should be compared with a script based programming environment, in which case the forest of parameters suddenly begins to look less intimidating. Programming takes time effort and knowledge though whatever the interface.
I'm a Melda fan. I love bland GUIs. I often wonder what goes on in the mind of their developers when they create these plugins. They are very involved. You don't see a lot of tutorials for their stuff. I think most of it is better for sound design. I do have this plugin and I got it for a lot less. The nice thing about Melda is there is no machine limit and all updates are free.
Melda is actually really cool company making incredible plugins, most people skip them because shitty looking graphical interface, but on the other hand their plugins support up to 100Hz refresh rate so visuals can look very smooth;
for ex. MSpectralDynamics plugin they made in 2013 already is basically more delicate Oeksound Soothe or Soundtheory Gulfoss
Yeah, I'm too stupid for that thing...but not stupid enough to buy it...
why does each sound storm sound different....WHHHYYY
I love how you go through every emotion of a plugin tester in one video. Excitement, confusion, frustration and then back to excitement when something cool happens.
What's great on this plugin, as all Melda plugins, is that people can share presets (and it's very easy to get it directly from the plugin itself!!) Some presets out there are really good! as user (not designer) I can get all I need and sometimes it's even fun to tune things also if I don't get exactly what's going on. There is also a possibility to get a graph of what you're doing.. that is helping me a lot. Moreover, the tutorial available is a great resource. I am really happy with that.
Hey man, I congratulate you for having a channel like the one you have, your observations are very reliable and your opinions about anything are very good, I have laughed a lot watching you try this marvel, Melda already has a place in my plugin arsenal and more with your opinions about it, if you see it well, I also see it well, thanks I wish you the best of this world.
Melda is for geeks. I love it.
I do like saturation and widening in the reverb unit - definitely makes it sound better to me.
Great informative video...... It shows that this reverb is more for sound CREATORs rather than mixers..... Mixers need to choose well known sounds & move along quickly to be productive..... Sound Creators, for ambient music or film & TV have more need to craft unique sounds & spaces, and this reverb looks perfect for these types of artists.
Reverb plugins (even stock plugins) have been way better than ie. Yamaha hw, and other mid-price reverb (1000-1500 $, €, £). I like the FabFilter PRO-F. For the price of about $150 the plugin is great. IMHO, hardware vs. software "war" is over, so is the loudness war. No winners. Take want you want and what your wallet can afford. Make music! And thank You for your vlog!
Typical meldaproduction, throwing out all usability in favour of more elaborate features
Their multiband autopan is by far my favorite spacialization tool I've ever used, hardware or software, the interface has always felt really intuitive for that kind of work, and I use MCompare and their free tuner quite a bit but for reverbs and delays I've never found them that satisfying to work with.
Their interface paradigm is internally consistent across products and makes a lot of sense but to me some jobs need a simple, minimal interface like the Valhalla software (or better yet, well designed hardware).
Kind of like how menu diving is perfectly fine in a hardware multi-effect unit or sampler or any sort of complex digital synth like a Wavestation or D-series Roland, where there are a lot of different tasks you can perform and keeping them organized into separate menus and submenus helps keep things manageable, but for something like a compressor or filter, I really want one knob per function.
Complexity isn't inherently bad and simplicity is definitely not inherently good (some of the least user friendly devices are the kind that bury functions for the sake of superficial interface simplicity, like a lot of iPod era Apple products, and the 90s lower end Lexicon boxes like the Vortex and Jam Man did), it's when the level and form of complexity doesn't fit the actual function of a tool that it gets to be a problem.
Melda fills a niche that no one else does. Incredible depth, without requiring you to learn how to program a DSP (ala Reaktor or Max). It's not for everybody. There are plenty of options out there for those who just don't care to go this deep.
How is this not extremely usable? It's got all the controls of a generic reverb, just also happens to have a thousand more which r on another page u don't have to ever touch
@@Byronic19134 It's because of the UI clutter. If you use the plugin regularly and get accustomed to it, then it doesn't have to be a problem. If you're looking through your reverb plugins to find the right fit, this kind of interface can just make it take longer for you to get what you want. They've done a pretty decent job considering how deep this plugin is, but I'd personally still avoid it.
yeah, good sounding stuff, with some out-of-the-box thinking... but with an annoying interface that has a tendency to hide things and operate in a weird way...
Nice demo of the overkill turbo reverb by Melda.
I've just recently fell into the Melda rabbit hole of extra shiny bits and baubles, AKA plug-ins. I've got the free 37 plug-in bundle of basic effects, which was the voluntary trap door to buy some more powerful, and customizable effects. I chose the middle tier, and picked a few stand alone effects, like multiband reverb, delay, distortion, the Maximizer limiter. These are the more sane mid level variants for now. But I do really like all things TURBO! So eventually and probably inevitably, Melda will use the force and make me buy some turbo level effects.
Like to hear what you think about UAD Unison plugins. I have just bought a Apollo twin Duo, and I think it sounds pretty good. Be interested to hear what you think.
Good luck. He's UAD phobic. You'll love your Apollo. I got one and a Satellite right in between a couple of specials, so I ended up with a whole slew of Unison channel strips, VOXBOX, the whole Analog Classics Pro Bundle (with the new, not Legacy versions of all the classic EQs and compressor collections), Auto-Tune, and more for 50 USD. They are amazing. They do suffer from the aliasing problem he talked about in one of his recent videos, but the Unison preamps are the best you can get without buying a console. The only thing in the digital world that is better are Klanghelm compression and saturation plugins, but you just can't beat the Unison preamps. Both of the UAD 610s are gorgeous, the Neve is warm and open, and you can push the EQ to the max and it still sounds natural, open, and warm. The VOXBOX is amazing and the SSL 4000 E ain't too shabby when you're wanting a more transparent sound.
@@xaosnox Yeah i'm already hearing a big difference in my recordings. Everything feels more polished. i haven't tried any vocals yet but if they sound as good as the guitars and bass I don't think I have much to worry about. For someone who will be doing everything in the box, I think it's the way to go
im a new fan of yours and love your reviews. i love how blunt you are.
im also a HUGE fan of melda and everything i have tried i have loved, so maybe that skews my opinions? idk, but heres mine.
although i agree it is expensive, it offers a level of flexibility that no other reverb has done that i have ever seen.
the controls are not so bad when you understand what things are doing, but as you said, it requires a knowledge of what you are looking at. most melda plugins are complex compared to their equivalent, but offer a lot of flexibility that you dont see in 99% of plugins.
i havent actually tried MTurboReverb yet, but looking at it certainly makes me want to. that is an insane amount of control for a reverb!
that said, the problem with plugins as flexible as that is that it is easy to get sucked in and waste time on stuff that doesnt really matter. as you said, most people like to hear what they are used to hearing. personally i do sway towards the experimental side, so for me it opens a lot of doors.
the only thing for me that beats melda plugins are modular environments, such as reaktor, but then you start looking at a different genre completely.
i think those presets might have come from general measurements rather than impulse responses. it is an algorithmic reverb rather than an impulse response reverb, so i would guess (but could be wrong) that they were designed using distance measurements and an idea of the properties of the materials in the space.
at the beginning you mentioned about using the word "turbo" in a car to make it sound better. i think that analogy works in this case because a "turbo" in a car is an actual thing that actually affects the performance of the car. its the same with MTurboReverb, it actually has something that makes it better.
Melda makes a BUNCH of CRAZY shit. I love their plugs. Have you seen their synth?
White Sea Studio's what do you think about there free plugin bundle please?
A turbo is an actual car part, so in that case it probably did make sense.
FuZZbaLLbee but why didn’t they name cars head gasket? Or camshaft? 🤔
Oscar Landa because those are not a unique feature.
Also cars aren’t called turbo, it is added to the cars description
Hey White Sea
How do yo record your voice on these videos?
Mic, Pre, Software and what processing if any?
Thanks and Keep going strong
Rode mic on the camera
What is your opinion compare to other vst premium brands ??
Just join their mailing list and wait for them to put MXXX on sale and you get EVERY Melda plugin (including all their Turbo plugins, Spectral Dynamics and all the other amzing stuff) in a wrapper app that allows you to run anything from single instances to really complex series/parallel/sidechain matrix's. On sale its about $500
They also have a bunch of free stuff that is actually useful
@1:42 when you're too analog and accidentally saturate your own serotonin
Agreed with one of the previous comments. Melda is trying to overcomplex things that should be intuitive, or at least usable in everyday work! For me, best reverbs are the one by Voxengo (straightforward and free) and FabFilter (used it for full trial time, sadly, too pricey).
Pro-R is great, and they have been running a 40% off special. Don't know if it's over, but Total Bundle was the best investment I ever made. FabFilter does everything right, including eliminating aliasing with their oversampling. With FF and the UAD-2 Neve, SSL, and UAD channel strips plus their Classic Analog Pro Bundle, I feel pretty well equipped to do just about anything. I've got a few old favs, like the Neutron 2 version of Breath Control, which they ruined in v 3, but
Dikkery Dok - it depends on what your definition of “everyday work” is. There are a lot of audio engineers who work in Foley, sound design and creation for films, major advertising, trailers; who would find tools like this very useful - and doing that kind of audio IS an everyday thing at studios like Skywalker, Hacienda, Digipost; and many other post production studios in places like LA, Vancouver, London, NYC...
There’s a very big world of audio production outside of bedroom studios ... and a LOT more money to be made in that part of the audio industry than you can make recording local bands for $30 per hour.
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Donny Thompson True, but foley is a unique part of a sound recording, that a priori requires special tools. Using them in a more popular market will just drag sound designers down. Just an IMHO.
I found the same thing with Melda stuff. I brought a bundle but hardly use it because they're so overwhelming. Nice, but complex just to do a simple task.
Best value for a plugin that offers you the ability to use in audio for video and customization.!
This probably has more value for sound designers, for film and such. I feel it's just too much to dabble around for music. In Reaper alone, I sometimes design by reverb fx bus with stock plugins and even with those, it's too much sometimes. Chaining at least three fx on the bus, Reaverb, ReEq, and ReaComp, the possibilities are endless. But it would be great to try this just to hear some unique sonic palettes.
Yeah, if I was doing post work where I had to match the acoustics of ADR to location sound this thing would be a miracle.
It seems like the more reasonable comparison would be between this and developing reverbs from scratch in Max/MSP or Reaktor with custom algorithms coded in C++, and compared to THAT this is incredibly user friendly. But compared to the sorts of plugins you typically find in music production, this is kind of overkill.
I think this plug-in would suit perfect for sound designers.
For movies or something alike.
It seems to be something that it needs some math.
However, I like the actual reverb sounds.
Looks like a cool plugin actually.
I have been playing with a bunch of Melda stuff tonight. by brain is now liquid. amazing company holy cow.
On Melda VST start with A_B_C....H comperison buton.Load one in A copy/paste in B and start twiking
When u spend 4 hrs on nailing that reverb
OMG! I found this looking for a video for the MreverbMB and like......wow, this is crazy, way beyond my knowhow or reasonable needs but eh, Melda, f**king superstars of VST land....hats off! ;D
I am thinking that this is about the coolest reverb plugin ever. I have to have it now.
I really wanted to hear that Galaxy sized reverb. A reverb that decays over millions of years. ;)
Would love to hear what you think about their multiband convolution reverb, especially the speciality impulses like guitar body and megaphone.
well at last you nailed the title for all your videos
This Reverb must be my next buy!
Hey, nice video and great channel! I've been curious at how deep MTReverb goes. I can't find an appropriate place to ask so here goes: Have you considered trying out Bitwig for mixing? I just made a dynamic EQ using standard devices and there are 2 and 3 band devices that hold a whole device chain per band to make your own MB FX. I especially would like to hear what you have to say about the Dynamics device which is both an expander and a compressor. I'm using the beta for v3 with the new modular environment (Grid) and when it is released you can try building your own compressors or whatever.
I am experimenting on sound for my own joy and therefore this thing is madness. Totally love it. You can do so crazy sound design and there isn't a thing it can't do. And sounding awesomely great :)
You also just can use the easy mode reverb engine and get fantastic results in your mix in no time. As you wish. :)
What an unmatched piece of treasure that is.
I think Melda puts some other devs to shame who take such high prices for one reverb unit and you are very limited to what you can do. I mean, what else do you need when you got MTR? :o)
And like with all Melda tools you can modulate nearly every parameter of the software...
this is a plugin made for composers and producers for sure. a mastering/mixing engineer doesn't have the time to get in and program a reverb from scratch, since their livelihood comes from getting tracks done quickly, as opposed to someone who spends a year making an album and can afford to spend an entire day fine tuning each reflection (delay tap)
Its worth having Melda Plug ins...I'm saving to get them.
Sounds really awesome. Great video as always.
Valhalla = Perfection
Valhalla has everything I need.to get on with completing songs. I also love Zynaptiq’s, Adaptiverb for more experimental stuff: it’s a CPU hog but damn it sounds amazing.
Melda has really dope dsp efficient plugins..an a bunch are free
I AM the "smart seed generator, dude. haha ;) Great plugin
Solid review. I agree with you that the art is in balancing the power a tool provides against being efficient to use.
I'd like to see video on Audified U78 Saturator , Vertigo VSC-3 or DDMF MagicDeathEye
What is snake oil
I´m to stupid too. I can barely use MDelay. I tried the MSpectraldelay once and didn´t understand a Thing. Could be fun to create some samples with it for some experimental stuff or Dnb.
hahaha, i have MSpectraldelay too and despite continually trying to understand it, i'm still confused. i just twiddle with it until something sounds right
"I like how you can randomize thing, hehheh" 🤣🤣
Another great video! Hope all is well! Let's come up with the Collaboration idea!!!
hey, could you review the spl iron by plugin alliance?
It is simple, there are question marks everywhere, every single knob or function or meter is explained. LEARN it.
It may be over-complicated, yes, but still Melda makes some great plugins. How about you test 6030/6050/6060 by McDSP?
Love your videos! it would be great if you could turn your voice down/DAW playback up! I wanna crank this up to hear the verb but your voice is just way too loud. I actually routed my browser into Reaper with Loopback and hit it with a compressor. Keep up the good content!
I'm totally happy with Pro-R. Gives me all I've ever wanted out of a reverb, and I like it better than even the Lexicon. This sounds nice, but it seems like a potentially dangerous rabbit hole. I could see myself spending two hours making a reverb that ends up sounding like useless crap. I have enough to learn without getting a Ph.D. in reverb design. And the price is scary! Oh, and your thumbnails are hilarious. :-)
Make a video about Nutron 3 bro
Yes. I second this motion.
Wonderful plugins!
If it's not for you, there are hundreds of other, simpler options out there. If the GUI keeps you away, that's probably for the best.
I discovered Melda a few years ago; now my go-to for when I want to experiment a little (or a lot!)
Thank you for the great videos. Any chance you could review Neutron 3 sometime soon?
Probably
Yeah, sounds good. Good reverb.
I’m speechless! There’s a plugin you approve of????
Speechless.
But I also respect your opinions, which is why I watch you.
Would you say this goes against or exceeds the lexicon reverb plug-ins?
Also, what is your opinion of Melda’s other plugins?
Love you videos ☺️ can you do a video on ik multimedia t racks.
Please make a video of Weiss DS1-MK3... it´s a $ 500 plugin!
Now that you mention Chris, review Console6!!!
Melda do some great stuff but their interfaces make all their stuff look like accounting software.
“So We are going to try it because I’m a beginner, jaaaaa!” 🤣😂🤣😂.....so far my personal favorite reverb plugin is the eventide blackhole, least cpu consuming I have ever seen on reverb plugin and can get really cool sounds.....but I’m really liking this one too.
Love Melda their products are forensic audio type dudes
Great company "Melda", and you are amazing comunicator. Congratulations!!! I want a T-shirt of your studio jaja how do I have this one?
At 50k subs
$49 a month for a Reverb? *this is fine meme
That's the price for ALL of their plugins.
Right? That's more than Pro Fools!
It's actually rent-to-own of their complete bundle. It's extremely flexible. You can stop / start it at any time, and pickup right where you left off. They even credit you for any plugins you have bought in the past, toward the price of the full suite. And when you finish paying it off, it's yours for life, including all future updates. And as for updates, Melda plugins share a common framework. When updates are released, ALL plugins get updated. I really have a lot of respect for these guys (actually, it's mostly one genius guy).
Yes for all their plugins. BUT it's a rent to buy system and that's awesome.
I'm sold. This is for Eventide VSig lovers.
Melda are my fav plugin company, but are prone to go full-geek a some plugins, just got MSoundFactory - OMG, full-geek - it's going to take me a few lifetimes to get to grips with.
this looks dope. it would be cool to use this to make like 999 impulses out of this, load them into a convolution reverb and not have to fuck with all the controls again
The price isn’t really something to worry about too much, cause melda stuff goes 50% off pretty much every other week.
This is really built for intelligent people... YMMD! *Thumbs up*
Thank for the review. It's all about the room. Too much reverb detracts from the room. Do not confuse stupid with busy.
To be fair cars did actually have a turbine-driven forced induction device, a device from where the word turbo originates. It wasn't a marketing jargon.
Interresting plugin, looks like you can go really deep with it but it I do get a “programming a Yamaha DX7” kind of feel from it. It’s not for the faint of heart.
I am waiting for the mixdown made with your new earphones as you said. I am thinking about bought they
It's crazy so many options you have. It does however seem a bit overwhelming.
The design however doesn't look very user-friendly, perhaps it's just me getting used to Valhallas simple design.
Great video as always. I love when you read the information about the plugs-ins. It's always something about being the next revolutionary thing and it's very amusing to see.
Review Boz Digital Labs Manic Compressor
I suggested this before too. Based on his usual complaints, I think he'd dig Manic Compressor. Sounds good, simple functional UI, loads of useful parameters. Next best thing to Fabfilter