Fantastic. Snow on an equatorial island. But as beautiful and remote as this mountain seems, one cannot get away from the massive eye-sore of the Grasberg Mine. (Imagine something like this being allowed to be built on the side of Mont Blanc, the European equivalent in height, and of course it shares the distinction of being the highest mountain in the range.) This mine of course is very controversial - both environmentally and politically. Besides disfiguring the landscape the tailings have polluted a wide area. It is a relic of the excesses of the Suharto regime. 700 native Papuans were killed in 1977 by the Indonesian security forces when they protested over the ever encroaching expansion of this mine. The US based Freeport makes an unimaginable profit from this mine. Papua gets very little, except for large influxes of culturally and religiously unrelated Indonesians and environmental destruction.
I've only been to the port and town below the mountain, but on a clear day the snow covered peaks was an awesome sight. Coming into the port by sea, with the prevailing winds we smelt the land a day before we got there. There is also a plane wreck from WW2 up there somewhere.
Nice to have a quality non-sensationalist account of the climb. Thank you. Enjoyed, and it actually is an achievement. The logistics getting there are horrendous.
Thanks Richard for the amazing video about mt. Carstensz Pyramid. Great editing dude. 👍 Had watched your mountain climbing videos and chose to stay subscribe. Glad i did, you create some great content, crisp, length, neat editing and informative
Hi, thanks for the comment and motivation - I've almost got the approach trek movie ready for release, I just need another week to tidy the final pieces. Thanks.
Hi, I've just released the full 45-minute movie of the expedition including the full approach trek and logistics: th-cam.com/video/fYH8s1XlI1I/w-d-xo.html. As you'll see, I don't know how a foreigner could possibly reach the mountain without the employed help of an Indonesian company to negotiate with the local population to grant safe passage through the area.
Hi, I think we paid US9k for the expedition, meeting in Bali. We went with a local company which was much maybe half the price of western companies, probably the same level of service, but meant we had to deal with a few chaotic logistics, and negotiating ourselves for constantly increasing prices each day of the trip. Dunno, maybe a western company would shield you from that, but maybe not. I still need to finalise the approach trek section of my movie that explains all of those issues - every time I start editing the footage it brings back the memories... so I soon turn off the computer and sit down with a beer to try to forget again ;o)
Hi, good luck with your trip next year. I still need to complete the video of the approach , which is way more "exciting" than the climbing. You'll get used to lots of arguing and negotiating with the traditional owners of the land. But anyway yes, the climbing is not difficult for the most part and now the tyrolean traverse is a wire bridge. Climbing in the dark you feel like you should clip to the fixed rope the whole time because you're not sure what's coming next, but in daylight I was happy to scramble most of the route without clipping in. Good luck and climb safe, Rich.
Hi, the road to the mine is private and access is not permitted. Possibly, for staff of the mine, they might be able to catch a lift up to the mine and then hike in from there? But the general public are not permitted on the road. Back in the 1990's it was common for groups to helicopter to base camp, but I have been told that the mine owns all of the helicopter licenses in the province now, so helicopter access is no longer possible either.
Hi, I joined an expedition led by Adventure Indonesia. I definitely recommend joining a local company, because the logistics are very difficult. Getting to the town of Sugapa is one thing, but then dealing with the negotiations and price to be allowed access through the next few villages was intense and involved. I still haven't finished the "part one" movie of my trip that covered that aspect. Every time I start to edit the footage, it just makes me feel sad, upset, frustrated and maybe a little angry, remembering all of the emotions we went through at the time, but hey, that's easy for me sitting back here in the first world now! Hope those comments were useful, Rich.
Hi, the glaciers are there year-round i.e. permanent, however, the glaciers are shrinking at an alarming rate and some estimates suggest they'll be dry within a few years. The snow near the summit depends on recent precipitation. We climbed in November and it rained every day except the 2nd summit day. Typically Jan-Apr is the most likely period for rain on New Guinea, so, presumably that's the optimal season for snow on the mountain. Hope that's helpful, Rich.
The full 45-minute movie of expedition including the approach trek and logistics is th-cam.com/video/fYH8s1XlI1I/w-d-xo.html
Fantastic. Snow on an equatorial island. But as beautiful and remote as this mountain seems, one cannot get away from the massive eye-sore of the Grasberg Mine. (Imagine something like this being allowed to be built on the side of Mont Blanc, the European equivalent in height, and of course it shares the distinction of being the highest mountain in the range.) This mine of course is very controversial - both environmentally and politically. Besides disfiguring the landscape the tailings have polluted a wide area. It is a relic of the excesses of the Suharto regime. 700 native Papuans were killed in 1977 by the Indonesian security forces when they protested over the ever encroaching expansion of this mine. The US based Freeport makes an unimaginable profit from this mine. Papua gets very little, except for large influxes of culturally and religiously unrelated Indonesians and environmental destruction.
Trully! Even though We(Indonesian-Papuas) got very little benefit and somehow it has been corrupted.
but the snow will disappear in 2023 due to global warming
@@aprilsenjaapril NO. IT WON'T.
They might just as well blow up the summit.
Love these videos! Really well done. Thanks for all the extra work that is required to share make and share these.
I've only been to the port and town below the mountain, but on a clear day the snow covered peaks was an awesome sight. Coming into the port by sea, with the prevailing winds we smelt the land a day before we got there. There is also a plane wreck from WW2 up there somewhere.
thank you for this video. love your work.
Nice to have a quality non-sensationalist account of the climb. Thank you. Enjoyed, and it actually is an achievement. The logistics getting there are horrendous.
Thanks Richard for the amazing video about mt. Carstensz Pyramid.
Great editing dude. 👍
Had watched your mountain climbing videos and chose to stay subscribe. Glad i did, you create some great content, crisp, length, neat editing and informative
Congratulations on your accomplishment and thank you for sharing! Great video!
Nice documentary, thanks for sharing this Richard.
Hey, I was wondering if you could make a separate video explaining about the cost and logistics required to reach the summit
Hi, thanks for the comment and motivation - I've almost got the approach trek movie ready for release, I just need another week to tidy the final pieces. Thanks.
Hi, I've just released the full 45-minute movie of the expedition including the full approach trek and logistics: th-cam.com/video/fYH8s1XlI1I/w-d-xo.html. As you'll see, I don't know how a foreigner could possibly reach the mountain without the employed help of an Indonesian company to negotiate with the local population to grant safe passage through the area.
Great vid!
Hi Rich. Thanks for the footage. I would love to know the cost of your expedition, excluding flights. Thanks.
Hi, I think we paid US9k for the expedition, meeting in Bali. We went with a local company which was much maybe half the price of western companies, probably the same level of service, but meant we had to deal with a few chaotic logistics, and negotiating ourselves for constantly increasing prices each day of the trip. Dunno, maybe a western company would shield you from that, but maybe not. I still need to finalise the approach trek section of my movie that explains all of those issues - every time I start editing the footage it brings back the memories... so I soon turn off the computer and sit down with a beer to try to forget again ;o)
That was awesome thank you so much!
🙂
Great content.
Nice to watch you climb cartensz pyramid never imagine to climb, we are afraid
Excited for next year, thanks for the video. Didn't seem as though much rope work was really needed?
Hi, good luck with your trip next year. I still need to complete the video of the approach , which is way more "exciting" than the climbing. You'll get used to lots of arguing and negotiating with the traditional owners of the land. But anyway yes, the climbing is not difficult for the most part and now the tyrolean traverse is a wire bridge. Climbing in the dark you feel like you should clip to the fixed rope the whole time because you're not sure what's coming next, but in daylight I was happy to scramble most of the route without clipping in. Good luck and climb safe, Rich.
so, who got the rope across the gap in the first place?
Hi, is it possible to reach the base camp via the route leading to the mine?
Hi, the road to the mine is private and access is not permitted. Possibly, for staff of the mine, they might be able to catch a lift up to the mine and then hike in from there? But the general public are not permitted on the road. Back in the 1990's it was common for groups to helicopter to base camp, but I have been told that the mine owns all of the helicopter licenses in the province now, so helicopter access is no longer possible either.
@@richard_pattison Thansk a lot for clarification.
So I guess there's a little bit snow afterall.
Thinking about climbing this, how difficult were the logistics and did you use a tour company
Hi, I joined an expedition led by Adventure Indonesia. I definitely recommend joining a local company, because the logistics are very difficult. Getting to the town of Sugapa is one thing, but then dealing with the negotiations and price to be allowed access through the next few villages was intense and involved. I still haven't finished the "part one" movie of my trip that covered that aspect. Every time I start to edit the footage, it just makes me feel sad, upset, frustrated and maybe a little angry, remembering all of the emotions we went through at the time, but hey, that's easy for me sitting back here in the first world now! Hope those comments were useful, Rich.
Beautiful mountain in indonesia
Beautiful 🤩
when is the best time to get much snow like this?
Hi, the glaciers are there year-round i.e. permanent, however, the glaciers are shrinking at an alarming rate and some estimates suggest they'll be dry within a few years. The snow near the summit depends on recent precipitation. We climbed in November and it rained every day except the 2nd summit day. Typically Jan-Apr is the most likely period for rain on New Guinea, so, presumably that's the optimal season for snow on the mountain. Hope that's helpful, Rich.
@@richard_pattison where have you gone ?
Gold mine
Highest and lowest points right next to each other. Very convenient.
My dreams
Dick Bass, the man who changed Geography to include his own country "Seven Continents" lol
Climbing?
Fixed ropes are not climbing.
It's a sad game for silly people.