So Ed is concerned with the cost of heat pumps, so he puts a tax on the cost of boilers. And on natural gas. It isn't just net zero that is a mistake it's the whole idea that CO2 is driving global warming. This is and always has been utter rubbish.
Climate change has been going on since the start of time!! The sun is getting hotter as does any heat source! The earth and mother nature is far beyond us...we need to adapt not create more problems lying that it is due to using natural sources causes mother nature to act differently....where is the real evidence, once upon a time the pyramids were surrounded by green forests, look at what fossils have been found and where this is natural to our earth 🤔🤔🤔
I am seventy two, and I don’t know any government we have had in my lifetime, that hasn’t screwed the tax payer. Drink, drive, smoke or travel, you had better lube up, and grab your ankles .
Me I’ve had enough of this country , depressing damp grey cold , I remember going for a short break years ago to Krakow in Poland , we left here minus eight car frozen couldn’t open our doors absolutely freezing got to Poland minus 27 it felt so much warmer than home that’s when I realised there’s different colds the same as different heats .
I totally agree, but don't forget that it was Johnson who made it law - following his Globalist paymaster. He did it after the G7 Summit in Cornwall during the pandemic, at the same time that he started telling us that he was going to "build back better", in lockstep with the WEF.
It’s not about the party it’s a government thing, lab, con, libdem greens and SNP are all on the same money page with each other. The only one to oppose is Reform.
Without an integrated framework they're risking more bankruptcy. Transition is more about protecting the business that got impacted the most. What they did has been ignoring
1) All the UK establishment is behind it, that's why there was never any debate. 2) All driven by the never discussed, never covered by media and never voted or debated UN Agenda 2030
The only thing we can do is write to the Labour MP's telling them to do vote of no confidence in the cabinet. Fill their emails and letterboxes and keep pressure on.
If Miliband wants to go ahead with this insanity then the public have to speak up. Why should the tax payer pay for politicians energy bills on their second homes if they continuously make these idiotic decisions?
I wonder if the MPs get heat pumps fitted free? But carry on using coal , gas and oil to heat their mansions to save money and charge it to us taxpayers anyway? Their spending is certainly not checked with the rigor of any other worker in UK.
Yes, they do work. Earlier models didn't work as British engineers didn't really understand them. However, they indeed work now. It's all about the type of heat pump installation for your house. Also, Some plumbers have tried and failed to install them successfully and get them to work with minimal knowledge. The training takes about 2 years to be super-efficient at their installation.
@@Whiskey0880 I went to view a 2 bed house with a heat pump and it was really noisy in the garden. Also their bill was a joke £2..5K a year ! Their house wastnt warm as I would have expected. I am put off.
The catastrophic Climate and Nature bill, due to be debated and voted on (in) Jan 24th, 2025, puts net zero and heat pumps into the shade. The drive to destroy the UK has hardly started! Please email your MPs and urge them to vote against it.
Starmer needs stopping.He becomes more like a psychotic dictator every week. It's only a matter of time before he starts jailing dissenters and takes full control of the internet.
Old school gas engineer here of 40 plus years...... Heat pumps may work in new builds but not everywhere plus if your paying electricity at 24p kw would work out very expensive yo run........i remember when combi boilers came out and we're the next best thing until they start to go wrong people moaning about hot water delivery in the winter months then condensating boiler became the next thing to reduce your energy consumption and save the planet. Gas prices increased again...... Nothing will ever be cheap or free energy
Once Nuclear Fusion comes online then we might have cheap and abundance energy. I agree with you and with my tin foil hat on I am guessing many Governments want us to collapse so that they can build their new eutopia.
@stephenmatthews5437 yes I agree I never was ever going to fit one in my house...... Lucky I can do my own maintenance etc...... My boiler is 40 years old gravity hot water pumped heating and it works just fine.
Indeed! Also rent hikes due to landlords excessive & numerous legalities being enforced - one third have already left the market, which has further added to the housing crisis. Combined with immigration and no house building, we haven't got a chance! Truly the Labour Party are proving to be a force from hell for this country and its citizens‼️
That's the plan, they need somewhere to put all their new friends, the hotels are too expensive, also this shite government need their votes@@ChrisKershaw-d2k
@stephenbrown1077 please stop chatting complete 💩 if they were any good they wouldn't need a government subsidy to buy/fit them, Without said "subsidy" they are a complete rip off, I'm in the trade & know exactly how they work & the cost, A new gas boiler can be supplied & fitted for £1300 it makes zero sense to spend 20k on an ashp It's criminal
@Simple thermodynamics I'm afraid. Better off using the electricity through a heating element placed in water to heat it...Also, the dubious claims that they are 300% efficient makes them 'perpetual motion machines'. So the whole thing is a scam. They work in open sparsely populated areas, are ground sourced heat pumps as opposed to air and only attain the theoretical maximum a heat engine can attain, which is close to gas boilers being 90-95 % efficient. They are not suited for overpopulated Blighty. The energy for the heat pumps is coming from gas boiler power stations running at say max 95% efficiency. Given transmission losses for power distribution, the heat pump is actually less efficient than a using gas boiler directly for heat. Don't put to much credence on CoP, ,real efficiency is what matters and this maxes at an impossible 100%
@robertjames4908 Well a lot of that is definitely incorrect. The “200% efficiency” is actually the Coefficient of Performance. So it’s not defying thermodynamics. That CoP means that by definition, it would not be better to use an immersion heater. The flaw of air-source heat pumps is that they are expensive, and unreliable in certain weather conditions. Not that they’re a scam, or that they can’t work in crowded places.
So with the alleged savings of £300 per year, it will take someone between 50 and 67 years to recoup the initial investment of a heat pump. But yeah, it’s all about the ordinary person 😂😊
He doesn't need one - he just has to knock out a low budget video where he sings atrociously while badly strumming a child's cheap guitar and he thinks that will be enough for him to crack on regardless.... Just shows how detached (unhinged) the man is.
Somebody in Westminster Palace, should say to Miliband, “There is a well known saying 'A fool and his money are soon parted', and you should remember, it is the people's money, you are parting with'”.
I wonder if the MPs get heat pumps fitted free? But carry on using coal , gas and oil to heat their mansions to save money and charge it to us taxpayers anyway? Their spending is certainly not checked with the rigor of any other worker in UK
The expense and the noise and the inefficiency make heat pumps a stupid choice. Forcing builders to install them in new builds will make the houses harder to sell, much like trying to force EVs on us
I live very rural. We had a back burning stove I was assured would not be removed. They fitted the heat pump, £15,000 install the council paid, not me. It costs £15 a day to get the silly large radiators even lukewarm. No gas here, nor oil. This was the 5th of December. I've reinstalled my stove this morning after complaints to EON Next about the cost and inefficiency of the 'heat pump' and got a snotty email saying we might pay more for electricity but our carbon footprint was now in line with the Government's 2050 commitments.
Here in Ottawa, Canada heat pumps are being pushed, but most people have a gas hot air heat system as well. Our heat pumps shut off at minus 15 Celsius, whereas a cold night here is below minus 30.
Your in Canada this is the UK, different weather system like parts of Europe where is colder,UK is a totally different environment where their capacity to work is not commensurate with our weather systems
I was told by a sophisticated electrician who also understood the physics said that most types of heat pump are not that beneficial. Plus the liquid in the pipes if they are underground and burst is very toxic. Fact, one day they will leak as everything breaks down in time.
The manufacturers wom't hit the targets for heat pumps because nobody wants them. So they'll put up the price of gas boilers to compensate for the penalties.
A man I read inherited an air pump when he moved into a new house and it’s never worked property since they moved in winter has been freezing and cold showers 2 engineers came 3 times the call out charge for gas boilers both said different parts they now are reliant on electric plug in heaters .
You didn't need to be too bright to work this out. And you needed to be even less bright to ask how green the electricity needed to run these heat pump really is. Just imagine a very calm spell that's also very cold, and that most people have a heat pump. Guess where that electricity ISN'T going to come from.
I already did the research for pumps and the man said I would need to have support with paying the bills as it would well exceed the money that I have coming in. In other words I would be financially crippled with bills for running of the pump with electric bills. Screw that, I’m never getting one. My house is over 50 years old anyway and just cannot support that kind of stupid nonsense of a pump system, plus I would have to have solar panels and massive radiators through the house. Not happening ever.
Net zero was always a con an excuse to tax us to poverty. If you have the highest prices in Europe for gas, electricity, petrol and diesel along with the highest commercial and domestic rates in Europe could the polititians tell us how our industry, agricultural food supply and transport industry compete with anyone all these costs Drive inflation not wage increases. The working poor are in poverty because of these idiots. Until net zero is gone nothing will change. Its time industry and the billionaires intervened and get them to reverse these policies because they sure won't listen to the working poor. The polititians should tax us at 100 per cent and give us pocket money and food stamps. We are almost at that point anyway. Support and vote reform uk to end the insanity. Illegal immigrants cost us 44 grand a year. Ukraine 2 billion a year for bullets and bombs. And God knows how much in foreign aid but we can't give our pensioners on the poverty line a heating allowance. Let that sink in. Polititians of this Marxist government are not the solution they are the problem just like the tories before them. Net zero climate con, an excuse to tax.
The Problem we have is our cold is wet cold and not dry cold like Nordic countries, the heat pumps will not last as long either. They have cheaper electricity due to hydro. When we have all the AI data centers then our electricity will go up even more.
Heat pumps do not work anywhere. They are just electric heaters similar to convection heaters or bar heaters. Insulation of homes do not change this simple fact.
I am 72... own my own house... have lived here since I was a child. My gas boiler is knackered. I just have no idea what to do, what to replace it with, who to believe to give me the best advice. No one seems to have a clue without an agenda! I just go on limping along with old , worn out boiler and inefficient radiators.
If this Labour government says they're not going to ban gas boilers, that probably means that they are going to ban gas boilers. Using electricity for heating is about twice as expensive as using gas if it's resistive heating. Heat pumps are capable of negating this disparity, but they do steuggle to work effecrively in britain in the winter.
Miliband, what a Nutter.Rwmember his Manifesto in stone.All he does is waste our money.I will say it again our money.Give the money to our people Wake up labour 3:01 .
Well said you two. Now, why can't we slash gas prices? Electricity prices? Oh I know why, the clowns are in charge! Electric companies are laughing at the government!
How many people have been strong-armed into getting rid of their boilers in exchange for 'something'...I know someone that bought property and got 400ish trees for 40p each with the stick and the green plastic netting to go round them. The deal. They had to drill through their boiler so it couldn't be used...so now we are beholden to the Corporations instead of being able to burn coal or logs if things get bad...I met a guy in the woods one day with a six-pack, and a barrow, he used to forage for his energy whilst he had a few cans... better than sitting in the house 🤷...
Ed Millipede says there’ll be 1000s of jobs created by transitioning to nett zero, but he never refers to the amount of jobs that will be lost in the steel, gas, car manufacturing industries.
Building a power station in the North sea is totally mad. One that has a mind of it's own. Miles from the transmission network. Destroying the power industry.
So Ed is concerned with the cost of heat pumps, so he puts a tax on the cost of boilers. And on natural gas. It isn't just net zero that is a mistake it's the whole idea that CO2 is driving global warming. This is and always has been utter rubbish.
BULLSEYE
Three times the cost and not as warm.. his shareholders don't give a 💩
I agree planet has been around for 4.5 billion years and it’s doing just fine as it is. Net zero is pointless.
A SALMANDA HEATER WITH LITTLE CONVERSION AND A COUPLE OF GARAGES OR A FISH SHOPS SORTED
Well said completely agree
He should be in jail for the taxpayers money he is wasting and giving away when the country has so much debt .Complete clown .
Ed Minibrain has no idea on the gibberish he spouts .
He doesn't care, he has the wealth to stay warm.
Climate change has been going on since the start of time!! The sun is getting hotter as does any heat source! The earth and mother nature is far beyond us...we need to adapt not create more problems lying that it is due to using natural sources causes mother nature to act differently....where is the real evidence, once upon a time the pyramids were surrounded by green forests, look at what fossils have been found and where this is natural to our earth 🤔🤔🤔
@cliveo3 The Gibberish it to Distract You from noticing the Scam He's Running.
@@ScragNath
He has 'our' wealth to stay warm.
Millipede and the gang never intended cheaper costs.
This connected to the climate rubbish is the biggest scam in the world.
I’m 73 and been screwed-for tax all my fucking life and I’m sick of it .
😡👍👍👍👍
I am seventy two, and I don’t know any government we have had in my lifetime, that hasn’t screwed the tax payer. Drink, drive, smoke or travel, you had better lube up, and grab your ankles .
Ed Milliband 😃😃😃😃 I wouldn’t trust him to walk the dog.🤠
Me I’ve had enough of this country , depressing damp grey cold , I remember going for a short break years ago to Krakow in Poland , we left here minus eight car frozen couldn’t open our doors absolutely freezing got to Poland minus 27 it felt so much warmer than home that’s when I realised there’s different colds the same as different heats .
And they will tax you after you die as well.
@@coolhandlukefulWind chill and humidity are the differences 😁
It wasn't a mistake - it was deliberate!
Correct, all part of this so called Gr_at Re_et agenda.
net zero will make you poorer, hungrier and dirtier. UK made a mistake electing labour
I totally agree, but don't forget that it was Johnson who made it law - following his Globalist paymaster.
He did it after the G7 Summit in Cornwall during the pandemic, at the same time that he started telling us that he was going to "build back better", in lockstep with the WEF.
It’s not about the party it’s a government thing, lab, con, libdem greens and SNP are all on the same money page with each other. The only one to oppose is Reform.
Without an integrated framework they're risking more bankruptcy. Transition is more about protecting the business that got impacted the most. What they did has been ignoring
Net zero is a mistake……..NO 💩 SHERLOCH
1) All the UK establishment is behind it, that's why there was never any debate.
2) All driven by the never discussed, never covered by media and never voted or debated UN Agenda 2030
how do we get rid of this criminal government?!?!?
The only thing we can do is write to the Labour MP's telling them to do vote of no confidence in the cabinet. Fill their emails and letterboxes and keep pressure on.
Guy Fawkes knew
I f i gave you the correct answer i would get thrown in jail?
sivil war
al capone knew how to
You don't have to be very intelligent to know that net zero is just not feasible.
The biggest rip off tax going
You don't need intelligence when you're just trying to con the nation for £££££££s
anything with a zero target is unachievable
@bhobbs4116 Without a doubt, the biggest scam.
We make up about 2% of global emissions. This isn't about the climate it's about control.
I seriously worry about what the Government has in store for us!
They are following the same playbook as Democrats in California...look how that's turning out 🤔🤔🤔
Agenda 2030.
Most of us who post here have known for years
Snap I dread to think where we will be after 5 years of this Labour government scary times ahead
If Miliband wants to go ahead with this insanity then the public have to speak up. Why should the tax payer pay for politicians energy bills on their second homes if they continuously make these idiotic decisions?
We shouldn't pay full stop
I wonder if the MPs get heat pumps fitted free? But carry on using coal , gas and oil to heat their mansions to save money and charge it to us taxpayers anyway?
Their spending is certainly not checked with the rigor of any other worker in UK.
All MP's expenses should be paid from party funds and not by the taxpayer !!
Milliband is completely inept. He shouldn't even be in charge of the number 10 cat.
The Cat has more sense than Milliband 😅😂
Yes vote Larry for P.M. he's seen plenty coming and going he could teach this lot a thing or two 😂😂
millibellend
I certainly think that Larry the cat would object !
Larry 🐱 for prime minster 😊
After all the lies from labour I am now totally anti net zero .🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴
Red Ed Should Go........Useless.
Heat pumps won't work in this country we haven't got the right climate
They work perfectly, ours is spot on
They don't work perfectly. Just because it works for doesn't mean it works for everyone. Use your brain.
Or enough money. And we have huge amount of historic old houses; with nowhere to install a heat pump.
Yes, they do work. Earlier models didn't work as British engineers didn't really understand them. However, they indeed work now. It's all about the type of heat pump installation for your house. Also, Some plumbers have tried and failed to install them successfully and get them to work with minimal knowledge. The training takes about 2 years to be super-efficient at their installation.
@@Whiskey0880 I went to view a 2 bed house with a heat pump and it was really noisy in the garden. Also their bill was a joke £2..5K a year ! Their house wastnt warm as I would have expected. I am put off.
If the whole of England was 100% net zero, it would not make a difference too our world, well just make certain people richer.
Correctomundo Garry,
The only net zero is my bank account.
The whole net zero thing is a total con and can never be achieved so let's just scrap it now and get on with our lives.
A mistake??????It’s an outright catastrophe!!!!!!
They have absolutely no idea what they are doing
and it's at our expense
Unfortunately, I think they know exactly what they're doing.
@@hogwash9140Fleece comes to mind.
Someone with an ounce of common sense save us from nut zero
The catastrophic Climate and Nature bill, due to be debated and voted on (in) Jan 24th, 2025, puts net zero and heat pumps into the shade. The drive to destroy the UK has hardly started! Please email your MPs and urge them to vote against it.
Starmer needs stopping.He becomes more like a psychotic dictator every week. It's only a matter of time before he starts jailing dissenters and takes full control of the internet.
My brother went for this heat pump system and has just taken it out and gone back to oil saying his family were sick of freezing in their house.
Storage heaters were bad enough heat pumps are far worse.
So bills NOT coming down by £300 FFS , what a bacon muncher
Did you believe that?
@@whitehart11 of course not, it's called irony
Banana.
@ Sorry!
A heat pump is going to cost up to 20k.
Old school gas engineer here of 40 plus years...... Heat pumps may work in new builds but not everywhere plus if your paying electricity at 24p kw would work out very expensive yo run........i remember when combi boilers came out and we're the next best thing until they start to go wrong people moaning about hot water delivery in the winter months then condensating boiler became the next thing to reduce your energy consumption and save the planet. Gas prices increased again...... Nothing will ever be cheap or free energy
Once Nuclear Fusion comes online then we might have cheap and abundance energy. I agree with you and with my tin foil hat on I am guessing many Governments want us to collapse so that they can build their new eutopia.
Great to read someone writing from experience rather than NO experience 😀
My combi is the biggest piece of crap. It takes so long to give me hot water, its not only costing me wasted gas but also my metered water
@stephenmatthews5437 yes I agree I never was ever going to fit one in my house...... Lucky I can do my own maintenance etc...... My boiler is 40 years old gravity hot water pumped heating and it works just fine.
Heat pumps solar wind turbines all trash the whole lot.
Lets see a compilation of mp's who have heat pumps fitted and also who run an EV without a petrol or diesel as a back up
Energy prices up again in April , small stop in June , up again November January April etc etc soon all our wages be going on energy bills 😢
Don’t worry by that time we won’t have anywhere to live soon homeless no bills
Indeed! Also rent hikes due to landlords excessive & numerous legalities being enforced - one third have already left the market, which has further added to the housing crisis. Combined with immigration and no house building, we haven't got a chance!
Truly the Labour Party are proving to be a force from hell for this country and its citizens‼️
Pay what you can afford only. Why should anyone have to choose between eating or heating and reduced to going to a food bank.
That's the plan, they need somewhere to put all their new friends, the hotels are too expensive, also this shite government need their votes@@ChrisKershaw-d2k
Reform or Bust.
Miliband does not believe what he himself is saying anyway, that's beside the point. He's been given a job that makes him feel good again.
He is told what to say by his betters
WEF
Et al
Heat pumps do not work..... They cannot heat water up to 60 deg C to kill bacteria so they all use an immersion heater, How much is electricity????
They work fine.
You're not convincing anyone. No matter how many people you respond to.
@stephenbrown1077 please stop chatting complete 💩 if they were any good they wouldn't need a government subsidy to buy/fit them,
Without said "subsidy" they are a complete rip off,
I'm in the trade & know exactly how they work & the cost,
A new gas boiler can be supplied & fitted for £1300 it makes zero sense to spend 20k on an ashp
It's criminal
@@stephenbrown1077 Mine works much better than my old combi boiler. Water at 70deg with 2 hours of heating. 24/7 20deg comfort.
@GeoffDay-t4g No doubt far cheaper, too ?
It's taken years for Milliband to realise this ? What a numpty. He wants to speak yo real people not his stupid mates .
He knew all along. This is just another con by the ruling class.
He has no worries about paying his heating bills we pay it
More expensive to buy and run!
What can you expect from Ed Minibrain - failed all previous appointments.
We in the UK pay ten times more for our natural gas than Siberia. Something seriously wrong here.
Yes, but it doesn’t have to be transported far in Siberia.
@@GeoffHome-u6r As it wouldn't here, if we were to be sensible and use our own resources.
There are more boatmen in the UK than our army. This is chilling!
Heat pumps , absolutely useless in crowded areas with everyone trying to get heat from the same outside source....
Is that actually true though?
Rubbish
@Simple thermodynamics I'm afraid. Better off using the electricity through a heating element placed in water to heat it...Also, the dubious claims that they are 300% efficient makes them 'perpetual motion machines'. So the whole thing is a scam. They work in open sparsely populated areas, are ground sourced heat pumps as opposed to air and only attain the theoretical maximum a heat engine can attain, which is close to gas boilers being 90-95 % efficient. They are not suited for overpopulated Blighty. The energy for the heat pumps is coming from gas boiler power stations running at say max 95% efficiency. Given transmission losses for power distribution, the heat pump is actually less efficient than a using gas boiler directly for heat. Don't put to much credence on CoP, ,real efficiency is what matters and this maxes at an impossible 100%
@robertjames4908 Well a lot of that is definitely incorrect. The “200% efficiency” is actually the Coefficient of Performance. So it’s not defying thermodynamics. That CoP means that by definition, it would not be better to use an immersion heater.
The flaw of air-source heat pumps is that they are expensive, and unreliable in certain weather conditions. Not that they’re a scam, or that they can’t work in crowded places.
@@stephenbrown1077are you on a commission basis to sell heat pumps in the comments section?
A heat pump will cost you £15k to £20k installed you will have to dig up your garden to do it - hard to do for a second floor flat!
So with the alleged savings of £300 per year, it will take someone between 50 and 67 years to recoup the initial investment of a heat pump.
But yeah, it’s all about the ordinary person 😂😊
They'll want you to have an arse source pump
@@danielhornby5581and you will get a little over a decades use if your lucky before you have to replace the heat pump.
Get Reform in and scrap the lot of it.
Green means more expensive always. Never buy anything with green in it's title
& also avoid anything that says "smart"
What qualification has Miliband got in engineering,
He is greedy for money and utterly mad !! 🤔🤔
Or anything of any use? Or relevance?
Probably an nvq level 1 ....not very qualified
😊
Milliband is so disconnected, he has no idea how much people loathe him. Like Starmer has not the faintest inkling that he's known as "two-tier Keir".
He doesn't need one - he just has to knock out a low budget video where he sings atrociously while badly strumming a child's cheap guitar and he thinks that will be enough for him to crack on regardless.... Just shows how detached (unhinged) the man is.
Time we refused to pay our taxes until the nry zero thing is abandoned
Why are we putting up with this on top of everything else? Labour needs to be removed
We are being taxed out of our cars and the next is to tax us out of our houses !
Somebody in Westminster Palace, should say to Miliband, “There is a well known saying 'A fool and his money are soon parted', and you should remember, it is the people's money, you are parting with'”.
I wonder if the MPs get heat pumps fitted free? But carry on using coal , gas and oil to heat their mansions to save money and charge it to us taxpayers anyway?
Their spending is certainly not checked with the rigor of any other worker in UK
Thing is he was convinced we believed him
LOL nobody was ever asked, there was no vote on net zero. All mainstream parties and media are pushing the insane agenda and stifling any debate
Millie’s a mistake! Never suffered from loyalty or common sense.
The expense and the noise and the inefficiency make heat pumps a stupid choice. Forcing builders to install them in new builds will make the houses harder to sell, much like trying to force EVs on us
Just don't buy, simples !!
Never cheaper and never as hot either
I live very rural. We had a back burning stove I was assured would not be removed. They fitted the heat pump, £15,000 install the council paid, not me. It costs £15 a day to get the silly large radiators even lukewarm. No gas here, nor oil. This was the 5th of December. I've reinstalled my stove this morning after complaints to EON Next about the cost and inefficiency of the 'heat pump' and got a snotty email saying we might pay more for electricity but our carbon footprint was now in line with the Government's 2050 commitments.
They ain't bothered about you just the governments carbon edicts they have to adhere too !!
Here in Ottawa, Canada heat pumps are being pushed, but most people have a gas hot air heat system as well. Our heat pumps shut off at minus 15 Celsius, whereas a cold night here is below minus 30.
BINGO
Pretty useless then !!
Your in Canada this is the UK, different weather system like parts of Europe where is colder,UK is a totally different environment where their capacity to work is not commensurate with our weather systems
@@AnthonyWitherington if you are getting anywhere near the freezing point, the cost goes thru the roof.
@@onemotherpucker As does the electricity bill.
The problem is the politicians who haven’t a fn clue 🤷🏼♂️🤡🤡
I was told by a sophisticated electrician who also understood the physics said that most types of heat pump are not that beneficial.
Plus the liquid in the pipes if they are underground and burst is very toxic.
Fact, one day they will leak as everything breaks down in time.
They would be great if they wasn't: too big, too ugly, too inefficient, too expensive. 🤷♂
And that's just Eco brain Milliban 😂
Add to that too noisy
The manufacturers wom't hit the targets for heat pumps because nobody wants them. So they'll put up the price of gas boilers to compensate for the penalties.
Has David Milliband got a Heat pump installed and have a EV??
A man I read inherited an air pump when he moved into a new house and it’s never worked property since they moved in winter has been freezing and cold showers 2 engineers came 3 times the call out charge for gas boilers both said different parts they now are reliant on electric plug in heaters .
You didn't need to be too bright to work this out. And you needed to be even less bright to ask how green the electricity needed to run these heat pump really is. Just imagine a very calm spell that's also very cold, and that most people have a heat pump. Guess where that electricity ISN'T going to come from.
Like today, the local windmills aren't turning, and I guess they aren't the only ones.
Get ready for blackouts
We almost had a complete UK blackout, last week, hold on can I say bl----t. 🇬🇧✝🇬🇧🚜
Who'd have ever thought a £15k ASHP & 25p eleccy could be more expensive than a £2k gas boiler & 6p gas 🤔
Fracking hell that’s a no Brainer, 15k v2k, 25p v6p frack baby frack 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Apparently heat pumps humm when they get older imagine a whole estate humming away 😅😅😅
I already did the research for pumps and the man said I would need to have support with paying the bills as it would well exceed the money that I have coming in. In other words I would be financially crippled with bills for running of the pump with electric bills. Screw that, I’m never getting one. My house is over 50 years old anyway and just cannot support that kind of stupid nonsense of a pump system, plus I would have to have solar panels and massive radiators through the house. Not happening ever.
All it is like a huge electric kettle, imagine the cost of that 15-20 quid a day, 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Net zero was always a con an excuse to tax us to poverty. If you have the highest prices in Europe for gas, electricity, petrol and diesel along with the highest commercial and domestic rates in Europe could the polititians tell us how our industry, agricultural food supply and transport industry compete with anyone all these costs Drive inflation not wage increases. The working poor are in poverty because of these idiots. Until net zero is gone nothing will change. Its time industry and the billionaires intervened and get them to reverse these policies because they sure won't listen to the working poor.
The polititians should tax us at 100 per cent and give us pocket money and food stamps. We are almost at that point anyway.
Support and vote reform uk to end the insanity. Illegal immigrants cost us 44 grand a year. Ukraine 2 billion a year for bullets and bombs. And God knows how much in foreign aid but we can't give our pensioners on the poverty line a heating allowance. Let that sink in. Polititians of this Marxist government are not the solution they are the problem just like the tories before them. Net zero climate con, an excuse to tax.
The Problem we have is our cold is wet cold and not dry cold like Nordic countries, the heat pumps will not last as long either. They have cheaper electricity due to hydro. When we have all the AI data centers then our electricity will go up even more.
He's lining his own pockets.
No fake heat pumps or EVs for me. Complete hoa x
Heat pumps do not work anywhere. They are just electric heaters similar to convection heaters or bar heaters. Insulation of homes do not change this simple fact.
Miliband minor was a tragic mistake. 😢
Only geothermal heat pumps work decently...and they cost almost as much as a house.
The real reason Truss was subjected to a WEF coup is she was going to allow fracking for the 300 years worth of gas we have in the ground.
I am 72... own my own house... have lived here since I was a child. My gas boiler is knackered. I just have no idea what to do, what to replace it with, who to believe to give me the best advice. No one seems to have a clue without an agenda! I just go on limping along with old , worn out boiler and inefficient radiators.
Engineers should run politics.
What? like engineer Milliband?
If this Labour government says they're not going to ban gas boilers, that probably means that they are going to ban gas boilers.
Using electricity for heating is about twice as expensive as using gas if it's resistive heating. Heat pumps are capable of negating this disparity, but they do steuggle to work effecrively in britain in the winter.
Heat pumps need electrity and that will be provided by unicorn farts and sunbeams?
Seriously, can we sue Ed Milliband if our elderly relatives die of cold?
A test case might happen, At least sue the Liebour party,🇬🇧🇬🇧✝🇬🇧🏴
Millibrain makes village idiots look good
Labour, stupidity reigns supreme.
Miliband, what a Nutter.Rwmember his Manifesto in stone.All he does is waste our money.I will say it again our money.Give the money to our people Wake up labour 3:01 .
We're being worked like puppets.
Just like we were with petrol v diesel then diesel v petrol then both v EVs nothing but a con, it will hydrogen v nitrogen next,🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Import more people while causing the work places to close down so they can all be equal on the dole.
My son-in-law has a heat pump.?
It's 5 x more expensive to run than a gas boiler.😢
How can you have a heat pump if you live in a block of flats???
How can you charge your can from a flat???🇬🇧
Love❤ talk makes my morning
What makes it worse is Labour only got 10 million votes to win their HoC majority 😢
Well said you two. Now, why can't we slash gas prices? Electricity prices? Oh I know why, the clowns are in charge! Electric companies are laughing at the government!
Heat pumps are rubbish in an old home
How many people have been strong-armed into getting rid of their boilers in exchange for 'something'...I know someone that bought property and got 400ish trees for 40p each with the stick and the green plastic netting to go round them. The deal. They had to drill through their boiler so it couldn't be used...so now we are beholden to the Corporations instead of being able to burn coal or logs if things get bad...I met a guy in the woods one day with a six-pack, and a barrow, he used to forage for his energy whilst he had a few cans... better than sitting in the house 🤷...
Ed Millipede says there’ll be 1000s of jobs created by transitioning to nett zero, but he never refers to the amount of jobs that will be lost in the steel, gas, car manufacturing industries.
Those jobs have already gone or going, never to return,🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🚜🏴
It's funny how the way to make the weather better is always to pay more tax.
I had a price on one £22000 Then I was told it would cost £15 a day to run.
Millaban your a joke have you got them at your home
most houses are totally unsuitable for heat pumps!
Building a power station in the North sea is totally mad. One that has a mind of it's own. Miles from the transmission network. Destroying the power industry.
Milliband is a complete Helmet and needs put back in his box. He couldn’t get a job stacking shelves and should keep to morris dancing.
He could dance while stacking shelves in Morrisons,🇬🇧🇬🇧
Heat Pumps NOISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at any time especially in the summer when windows are open, a low pitched thrum.
All part of the con - increase the price of existing energy and boilers to make the replacements look cheaper
Heat pumps are a waste of time , they can take 3 to 24 hours to warm a house depending on the size of your house .He hasn't a clue.
what is the point in inviting somebody on your programme (and presumably pay him for that as well) and then talk more than him.
She is also paid to talk...
No kidding, don't need to be Einstein to see that.
Very compliated also, more to go wrong.
Worcester Bosch boilers start at around £800 + installation!
THEY ARE REALLY GOOD AND REIABLE !!
If new houses are to have heat pumps, I don't think many will be queing up for new properties unless they're in the money.
Yet another consumer RIP OFF