I came home from my honeymoon in Jamaica and met JP in the air port, its almost as if he knew that my dad was very sick and i was having problems with my brother. Im still wiped out, he gave me 2 floor seats to his show, i appreciate you JP
@@ashleybryant305 thanks man, i was so caught off gaurd by him. I wanted to really absorb him and talk to him, but i could see he was exhausted, i used to question how real he is but hes the genuine article.
You carry a lot of pain Jorden and I know you wont see this message but you kept me alive too. Your thoughts are also mine and witnessing someone with such weight in society makes me feel of worth. I have been on the edge of the cliff I have nothing left in this word and have to crawl back from the void. Your hand is the one I reach for through these videos. Never under estimate how important you are. You are irreplaceable rock a foundation to Millions.
Man my story is the same and as of 5 minutes ago, I didnt pull the trigger, hmu lets stay alive man, even if the cake ends up as a lie. Serious im random but we can be random together man.
@@AnotherFaceInTheCrowd I spent 15 years of my life with an abusive female I worked 3 low paid jobs renovated an 175 year old Victorian building as our home Put everything9 I had into it mind body and soul. I adored her through taught routine and fear as she had me by the balls She had her name on everything and removed mine from it all. I put up with the dinking and the abuse. When I finished the house we were worth almost $1000.000 I was set to retire in my 50s. Then one day I said she was a bully and abusive. I spoke up. Withing 5 mins she had called the police 3 cars arrived removed me from my home I now own a 14 year old car. she took the house my beautiful dog (that she did not want) and everything that I or my parents had ever owned. Never let a covert Narcissistic person let them know you can see them. I am labelled the abusive and manipulative male. All but a few believe it. I am starting again Covid and the mind zombies destroyed all my work prospects and drained my bank accounts. The government will not help they have given all the money to the illegals. But they did fine me $900 for a tax code change. I watch comedy now, never read or watch any news and stay away from all social media. It is only ever negative. Life can be good Its just i am starting it again. A Keto diet does help too. Take care. I now try exercising my self to death. It works really well. It makes me positive and too sleepy to be bothered taking the Icarus jump.
@@AnotherFaceInTheCrowd I love that idea. And you're very powerful for acknowledging your struggles but still acknowledging someone else's plus it's not about you feeling better your comment was a hope that you'd both feel better at least a lil bit through one another. That's the type of thinking this world can use more of. Be strong my friends and know you're not alone and all of this is temporary
Jordan's empathy is pure and deeply emotional. It's something you rarely find in society today. I remember as child receiving all kinds of words of encouragement. Now, I'm lucky if someone tells me thank you for something I've done. If we can't bring out the intrinsic value of each other, what good are we doing? You never know what trauma or loss another person has experienced. Go out on a limb, take a chance, offer a smile, speak a kind word, and the rest will take care of itself. Your actions, simple as they may be, could be the best thing that happened to a soul in need.
"People are starving for a word of encouragement" those words are powerful not the first time I heard him say it. I was in a cafe today the ladies who worked there were super nice and the service was terrific. I told them they were great and I would leave them a good review on Google. A genuine kind word is something we should be giving each other with no agenda ( not fake niceness ). Thank you for educating me JP
Your kindness no doubt rippled on, you made their day, they went home and their positive energy reflected onto the people around them. This is why it’s so important to just be nice to people. Smile at strangers.
One of the most enduring lessons I have learned from Jordan is to do what you think of doing, but don’t. In one video he said, if you think of doing something and you don’t do it, you must have a reason, right? We’re humans and we’re rational and analytical: ask yourself why you’re not doing it, see if you have a good reason. If you don’t, do it. How many times have we thought of thanking someone or going the extra inch for a tiny bit more kindness or offering a hand for just a few seconds or minutes of help, maybe even to a stranger on the street, yet we don’t do it for almost no reason? Such little efforts reap great rewards.
We're soo self deprecating. It's casual to speak of the demise of people. We don't even think we deserve dogs. But you know what, if we didn't, we wouldn't have them. Maybe we are deserving of good things when we align ourselves properly. It's no good to think we're worthless.
@@pizzasmithdude Sick of all the guilt and shame the left piles on the human race - they literally say they want humans to go extinct. And their environmental pseudoscience is a complete load of bs, just another way to guilt trip and control.
Ya know, I’ve seen a lot of people make fun of Jordan for crying. But I think it’s really important that he does. These are deadly serious things he’s talking about and he treats them like that. I’ve seen people light up when I’ve given them the most simple encouragement and I realized that they had never heard it before.
God bless your compassion and kindness.. You're speaking to the people's deepest yearning.. Their soul.. To know they are intrinsically important... And telling people that. Thank you
Suicide is a complicated issue. It’s hard to justify living a life in which the majority of your time is spent doing things that steal your soul. Life is hard to survive let alone realize your talents and goals. Be well.
I do not know much but the doctor who handled my best mates suicide said it was predestinated his brain was resurched after death I still do not understand but I know he was brainwashed in a cult
@@scottashe984 that theory was proved wrong, the notion is that everything that can happen will happen, and you might be more likely to do something in your life, but it isn’t really predetermined. This supports the idea of quantum fluctuations.
Doctor Peterson Canada loves and adores his humanitarian philosopher light worker for what you’ve been doing particularly during dark time on humanity in Canada and internationally. 🇨🇦🇮🇷❤️
Jordan's heart is so close to the surface , although only God and he know the horrors he has seen. But it just wipes me out every time he starts to cry. I am empathic myself but his level is way up there. Must be hard to be that and do what he does. God bless him.
I don't think that you (JP) has any real idea how much people really love him and his amazing courage willing to stand up to got overreach on our behalf. Not only is he also amazingly intelligent but his love foe his family is so touching not to mention his live for the human race
How could any vaguely sentient being ever vilify this man's genuine compassion for and understanding of the eternal paradox that is the human condition ...?
I would love to speak with this man personally! He would probably diagnose me as a cataclysmic mess!😂🤣😂 oh but the fire in his soul🔥💜🙏🏼 He feels so deeply, and allows us to see.💜💜💜🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Prayers and Love for you Dr. Peterson
My best friend committed suicide a week before her 16th birthday. I would go on to name my daughter after her. My baby is only three and so at her young age she's still so bright, innocent and pure. It breaks my heart to know my friend was at one time the same way and that somewhere down the line, her spirit and lust for life would be crushed. I look at my daughter and can only pray to lead her down a path of a long, happy life but I know nothing is guaranteed. I know there are things I will fail at, things I can't protect her from and evil in the world I cannot even fathom. The scale of my friend's tragedy is only more pronounced as time passes but one of the few positive outcomes is I think it has made me a better parent. Thank you Jordan Peterson for all the tragedies you've helped prevent. You've saved countless lives
Just don't lose sight. It isn't a happy life you want for your daughter (although you definitely do), it's a meaningful one! Good luck out there, I know you can do this!
It’s painful to be an Empath and JP goes through that pain very severely , it’s heartbreaking . We appreciate your sensitivity JP but please take care of yourself . guard your heart.
Community is vital to the well being of humans, we have never lived in isolation from one another because the world is complex and we need complex answers that can only be found in the collective. For this reason it is vitally important that we support and build communities of people that are healthy , children who are loved and fed, cared for by all…
God bless this man. I’m so lucky my parents gave me his book 12 Rules at the time they did. My best friend at the time, who I really tried to be there for, had killed himself-shot himself in the head. That hadn’t been the first time I’d tried to be there for somebody going down a dark path, and this tendency was addressed in his book-it felt like he was speaking to me directly. Or, rather, that God himself was speaking to me through him. It shook me to my core, and was absolutely essential in altering my trajectory forward.
This man, while being so eloquent and obviously cerebral, has at his centre empathy for the pain his fellow man experiences. The way he lives his knowing of people's pain gives me encouragement that humans are not all lost in themselves.
It’s always interesting and even a little funny how his followers are mostly the cerebral rationalist analytical types, and when he’s interviewed by one of them you always see them blank-faced when Jordan is moved to tears
It's just a comment but probably the best way to support a man that supports so many people that struggle to understand what's effecting them. He has absorbed so much over his life time and definitely points a way through for so many of us.
This is the most depressing talk ever!❤️ Love you Jordon. Isn’t there preventative measures we can learn/ do . ? I believe how we treat each other leads to so much loneliness, starting with basic manners,or sometimes keeping your own council,perhaps too simplistic. Keep up the good work Sir! Your words of encouragement touch many.You are a blessing.😮
Since I started listening to Peterson, I felt like if he had saved my life, and if I had him face to face, I'd tell him; "Thank you for existing Mr. Peterson, there should be more people like you on this Earth". Nowadays, I'm not an atheist anymore thanks to him.
Love you Jordan! Don’t ever doubt the powerful effect you are having on men AND women towards the betterment of their lives and those around us who you touch. God bless you sir
His friend had C-PTSD, possibly from emotional neglect. Jung's very deep, but just like he described his friend, sometimes we get stuck in the underworld, and Winnicot, Bowlby, even Freud make some sense of the dynamics. Also, Interpersonal Neurobiology provides some really impressive insights into the role of nurture in "creating" the brain, and the importance of caregiving, and the developmental processes which are either nurtured to create resilience, or not adequately nurtured. Dr. Alan Schore's "The first 1000 Days" (on YT) i found very enlightening, yet also sad as we're, as a culture, unconsciously and inadvertently creating many of the societal problems that we see and are attempting to resolve on the back-end. "It is easier to raise a solid child than to repair a broken man"-Unknown It is not easier for a substantially wounded parent to create the strong child, so it's harder for society to assist the "broken" man.
@@Eric-tj3tg It was like watching myself in the mirror when he spoke about his friend. I had a brutal past with my father that lasted for way too long before I left that house for go abroad 1 way ticket, and questions of meaning torment me too.
@@the_bogeyman. I hear ya Bogeyman. I'm sorry for what you've endured and am wishing well on your exploration (courageous). I also struggle with meaning, and sincerely hope that you find some answers for yourself "out there." Best.
@@Eric-tj3tg I will probably never find an answer. I am ”agnostic” a fair bit and that doesn’t help, quite the opposite. I started to avoid church and their ”cult” community of liers (at least where I grew up) already in my teens.
There are so many of us who are still alive because of Jordan Peterson. I really hope he understands how many people are just so grateful for what he does every day.
That stranger JP talked about has got to be the luckiest person despite the horrible events that happened to him. For someone to be there in your darkest, most abominable moments in life, and for them to help you pull through... it's unspeakable how life-changing that can be to someone.
I never see Jordan Peterson cry a single tear for the number of women who are violently slain year in and year out just because they are female. Frightened to go out at night, trust a taxi driver etc. This impacts decent men too as women fear trusting men who are genuinely honest. Actually they're more at risk of death and violence from their own partners. Yet Peterson believes male violence is because they aren't in relationships?? Cry tears for my neighbour butchered by her monster of a husband who served only three years imprisonment after claiming he was depressed at the time. He was released and murdered another innocent woman one month later.
Do you know why this man is such a healing and blessing to us? Because he has the attributes of Jesus the Christ. When will we learn to scorn the bullies, call out the misanthropes and exact justice on the tyrants. When that is done, we love people with the Love of Christ. Meet them in their need, show them the wisdom and set the conscience right. We love you Jordan B.
My mate topped his self,at his funeral I could've stop laughing ... uncontrollable laughter ....I had to pretend I was crying ....wtf ...I'd love to know what was going on in my brain It was a very funny funeral The vicar was completely insane and kept banging the coffin and shouting out are you in there mark ... Then telling us he wasn't there coz he was with God .. All these years later it still makes me laugh
Yes life can be so absurd, that's why your laughter. Maybe your friend somehow made it to a higher place despite the suicide and was looking down laughing too.
HI Jordan. I wish I couch say something better, but thank you. I've been watching your videos and reading your books for years now. Where would I be without you? Thank you, so much. Thank you, thank you.
Believe this man's views or not, whatever, but you can't deny Jorden has a heart and really gives a damn about what he says. His job has a hard toll but the help it's given outweighs it. Keep strong everyone!
Peterson writes about a friend who committed suicide in his first 12 rules book. He tends to get emotional when he gets too close to this topic (demoralisation of young men, people starved for a kind word or encouragement, and how utterly tragic and avoidable this is). Every time it happens I see where its coming from and it’s authentic. He’s not randomly applying the waterworks.
If you have a heart, I mean the metaphor in two ways, one is emotional goodness, the other is a sensibility to feel the suffering of other as if it were yourself. So, if you have a heart it seems to me impossible not to feel the pain of Jordan who has the courage to look at the abyss... I guess is a spiritual courage. If you listen to his sincerity, his love for humanity, his authentic cry for help himself and to help others.. if you do not cry with him in such deep emotional struggle to find meaning and salvation, I respectfully believe the coldness of your heart is to be acknowledge. I say all of this in my not to clear English, to say the interviewer of Peterson is either acting a cold persona or is strangely cold and detached I know because I've been suicidal and thanks for the loving wisdom cry of Peterson I'm still alive.
I think the point of the interviewer was to hold a certain detachment..but in my opinion, he did not sound ,,cold,,. Hey, I for one, am glad you´re still around!
I simply can't understand any criticism leveled at this guy, usually because it lacks substance... I not only should but must choose myself in this life, even if it hurts at times.
I lost the only black member of my extended family. My cousin took his own life not long after 30. He was the gentle giant in my family - and the few photos I have of us when we were kids showed we were close. Even then I never asked why this big black boy was my cousin... I simply assumed he was adopted - because no one ever explained to me that he was actually conceived by my aunt and fostered to another aunt. He was a chef for a time and one of the most gentle people I ever met. He went home one day to meet his father he never saw growing up and I'm not sure if this helped (in PNG north of Australia). Nor all the antidepressants, antipsychotics and whatever else. The last time I saw him alive was looking confused and disoriented at an intersection in the city - we hadn't seen each other in almost two decades - there was no relationship, but there was a memory - I knew we recognised each other but both agreed not to say hello. In a way, I feel lucky I didn't know him.. The pain of losing someone to suicide you truly love must be an extraordinary grief to live with. Bigger than any of your own possible failures, they seem trivial. I could have rolled down the window and called out to Yulian.
I'm so sorry the world, and you, lost a spirit like Yulian. It helps to talk to the ones we've lost, when alone. Give it a go, you might be surprised. 🪶
They are smarter than you think. True words. I remember being quite smart when I was that age. Not bragging but sincerely saying. It’s stupid to think they don’t understand.
5:53 Bad relationship with the father and questions of meaning was hard to hear for me. I felt anger and stress when my father was at home. Waited too long before move out and leave that hell. It’s stuff that can affect one for a lifetime.
What a stupid title. "Hyper emotional" .... How about he's a living, feeling being who's attuned to the reality of his emotional landscape. The word hyper suggests something pathological which is ridiculous
The worst predator : The spirit that animated all of them. Yes that's it . Be aware of the spirit that can animate within us. Thank you. What a pearler 😃
Genuine question…how do we justify bringing more innocent, sentient, pain experiencing people here to this net negative world? It’s a majority suffering world. Why bring more innocence here to suffer & struggle? To what end? Particularly when there is so much life here that already needs help to stop being tortured. Nature is by its nature predatory, vampiric & self consuming. Some beauty yes, but mostly a bloodbath. Every birth means inevitable new suffering, fear & death that is unnecessary.
Well im not sure on this topic entirely, but my interpretation of what JP and others have talked about is that the world is not about not suffering. The world is a cruel place and that is the nature of it, but living isn't meant to innately happy. Struggling and suffering is both necessary and beautiful. It is that suffering that opens up pockets of happiness among ones life and that is the true meaning of life.
@@thereplicator306 Thank you for your message. I will certainly contemplate it. I'm not sure that all the trauma & torture experienced here by innocence could ever justify the small levels of pleasure or happiness. The delight of life absolutely pales comparison to the vast, vast suffering. It's completely A-symmetrical. Eating a good meal or enjoying pleasurable connection is so minuscule compared to getting eaten by another creature or slowly dying of disease. Nature & reality is a vicious, gory & cold tragedy in my opinion. The means (perpetual murder, pain & slaughter) in this case do not justify the ends (meaning and purpose) to me and many others. Life truly appears to be a curse to empathetic sentience & not a gift.Curious to hear your thoughts please. Thanks for reading. I appreciate you.
@@kanemclaren5991 Perhaps you haven't discovered the true thrill of life. A life in which you control more then you don't control. This will give you a sense of purpose and belonging that far exceeds your sense of suffering. I have been on the other side and now I am on the right side. Life is lovely and kind once you are there and whatever your saying becomes out of the question
You can give him a chance. A few pages or chaoters of one of his books or maybe a few minutes of his lecture series here on YT can help introduce you to him. Hope it helps
@@kanemclaren5991 thanks for the good clear message. I recently watched another video of JP where he described something that I think has great affinity with me. He said roughly, the reason we must continue to push ourselves to become better people everyday is because from his perspective the greatest good in this world far outweighs the bad. This is a pretty hard idea to grasp considering this comes from someone who has researched the worst of the worst since he was young, Mao, Stalin, and hitler mostly. But I think it works, there is a tremendous amount of good in this world although it is safe to say that the world is by nature suffering. The only thing we should push ourselves for is to become better stronger everyday because living life to reduce that suffering very slightly everyday. I mostly think this because the alternative is what you mentioned, a meaningless existence in the world which sounds a lot less appealing. This also comes from a partially religious perspective as I am Muslim. Thanks, and let me know what you think
This has me beyond my tears and my feelings, and its as if no one can understand me or believe how much pain I feel inside.. lost my mom to cancer 2 years ago at 30 years old and have no other immediate family. I turned to alcohol to cope and in turn my fiance left me and since then, ive been just wandering through life a day at a time without purpose or any hope. it truly is a tragedy, and im just so tired of feeling like this.
"the spirit that motivated them" -- does that mean the common mindset of society, or does that signify some ghostly entity existing outside of the human mentality? I like that Peterson gives Jung a prominant place in psychology, he's not wrong.
I need him. He is the voice many need to here. I am trying to find my inner value. I have a PhD and nothing lasting has worked out in the years since graduation. Failure to self-actualize so far has been crushing. Almost 50, no career legacy. Now I work packing trucks. It’s been soul crushing, humbling, and I cry often on the way to and from work. I love my coworkers’ collegiality, but I have been on the edge as I no longer know who I am, as I used to identify with my prestigious degree. JP speaks to me on a deep level.
Dr. Peterson's life experiences across personal, family and professional suggest a whole universe of depth, realization, and witnessing the many sides of humanity. Imagine experiencing so many different kinds of people's vulnerable, deeper inner selves over how many decades, then also operating on an international business level - working with economists and scientists on worldwide environmental and economic issues. Then later becoming so loved and hated to such an extreme. With people in Jordan's position, we should have some patience, curiosity and awareness to remember, most of us don't have his unique life experience. We can appreciate and learn from JBP even with his limits, flaws etc. This was a much better moment to witness than anything "perfect" could be.
Yeah, my mum basically didn't bother doing anything with me as a child, her relationship with my dad just collapsed, & I always took her at her word of what an man child incompetent he was. I never talked to him until a few years ago, & I still ahrdly do but that's cos I don't talk to literally anyone. But, my god, I argued quite strongly with my mum quite a lot growing up, things just felt absurdly stupid & lazy from her. The amount of times I really needed help with things going on in my head & her response 1 time I remember quite clealry, was simply "Well normal people don't think like that" That was literally it, that was what she said, Jesus I've had more than 2 decades to think on that & all my childhood, & man, she was just completely dissinterested in the extreme. I've wondered a lot about what they were atually like together, & having finally talked with him, & he is extremely open, I've noticed they now are entirely incompatibel, but also, the stories he tells me about her, she sounds like a completely different person. I've wondered about post natal depression, but, even so, she's never ever bothered to talk about anything, when I try to she just, it's like there's fuck all going on in her head. & the thing's she talks about in her past right deep into childhood, the thing's shes told me going through her head back then, they sound exactly like the person I see today, she seems so very narrow of thought & yet, her mind is like an encyclopedia when it comes to history & art. But I know fuck all about any of that so, how am I to even know how accurate anything she says on the subject is, for all I know she could be filling in enormous holes with fancy sounding phrases. But holy shit, a whole lot became much clearer after I started talking too my dad, the way me & mum argued, the way she just, doesn't bloody talk, I can perfectly well see the both of them arguing & her just shutting everyone out only compounding problems. It's what she's always done to me, she'll say such sarcastic sounding things about me, my room, but she's done fuck all to actually encourage me, & I've even literally said that back too her when she's having a go about my room, it's just comletely unhelpful or productive & just demoralises me & makes me feel bad, Me who was already paranoid from a horrific experience in Primary school. Literally being bullied by teachers in the last 3 years, 1 of whom was actually fired & banned from working with children, he was the first 1 that did that to me, & it didn't stop there because after that I was just paranoid going to school & so completely dysfunctional in class. I don't see how she wasn't like she is now before, my dad, she just seems to ignore anything I say that's actually important, about her me my brother. I basically had Zero encouragement growing up, I can probably literally count on my hands the amount of times she ever did, & they were sports days, when I froze up, that was literally it, literally a few single times, I never did homework, she never checked on it, the only times she ever said anything too me was when the school actually sent a letter through the post to ensure it got to her. & the few times she did try to get me to do the homework, it wasn't help me do it, it was force me, & fight with me, & become completely impatient, which, that's totally not distressing to 7 year old. She just literally never bothered with me, god I remember trying to join in conversation with her & my bro & just being told to shut up & go away, & that was it, that's my entire childhood. It's wierd because I remember loving her so strongly, & it's turned into such resentment, I just don't let myself think about it because it's very destructive, it's so wierd to see her just literally not care, when I have talked about it, she just doesn't give a single shit. & that, my god, that is so cmompletely demoralising & paralysing, my love is attatched to that, & she's hardly incompetent, that's the part that really crushes, she just doesn't bother thinking about you, & that's hardly specific too me, she never talks to her brother, or mine, "Because they'll be busy" Our family only ever talks maybe once or twice a year, sometimes only once, it's so wierd. My dad's side is the opposite, but I don't want to talk to them anyway, they're a tad difficult to just get along with & I've always got a lot going on in my head, people say the stupidest things like fact & don't actually want a conversation, which is funny, because I've actaully found my dad 1 of the easiest to talk too now that I've gotten used to his seemingly forcefull way of talking, all you have to do is say your piece back, he's the easiest to talk too when you just speak your mind. My mum on the other hand, oh, she just shuts down like she's being insulted. You know, the distressing part in all of this, I know if I feel this nbow when I think about my childhood. I know this is going to be part of my thoughts, perhaps a dominating part, when she passes. How, The Fuck Is That Going To Feel? Some of you will probably have experienced this exact thing already. I should really deal with this, but I can't talk with her about it, she just won't engage with it, I've tried calmy just speaking on 1 particular point, & she can't bring herself to talk on it, I think, maybe, who know's she won't respond. So I just have to find my own way to come to terms with everything. Because my shcool utterly failed me & many other kids too, so it's not like this is all on my mother or father. This is a very complex problem. & at this point I'm an adult, so it is surely completely in my power to confront myself on this, perhaps that's what I need to do, but it has to be constructive, because lord knows I've beaten myself up for decades on this, even as a child when me n mum argued, I'd go away & burst into tears that I could get like that with my mum, but I never thought, she could just as easily be like that with me, & she never seemed to have that same feeling after. Which probably enhanced my resentment over the years because I could see she didn't feel that & so probably I was all of the problem, & with years to think about these things you realise that no, we're all human beings with nervous systems built on chemicals & that person never made up for the distressing moments. Which is funny, because my dad does seem capable of this, & he was the 1 I was seperated from my whole life, I mean they split & she got custody I Do Not Know Why, before I was 3, I literally don't have a memory of when they were together. It really seems like she destroyed everything, I mean, in terms of our childhood, there was literally no reason to tear all of us apart, she chose too do that. & given what I remember of the times I was with my dad on that 1 fucking day a week, I'm really at a loss as to what in the fk motivated her too do that to us, me & my brother I mean. I've seen a few relationships like that in my adult life with people who got together & just shagged a whole new life into the world & been completely dysfunctional as a couple who were complete idiots, but even them, have more care with their kid than my mother apparently did with us. There's absolutely no reason she should've fought for completel custody. The only reason I can make sense of, is she felt vengeful, which, she more than got on him with that custody, he basically missed our entire lives. I can't see how any other reason fits, she literally fought for just 1 day a week, not the weekend. I don't get why, because she hardly bothered her arse with me, we argued more than had constructive conversations.
My mother destroyed my relationship with my father as I kid I didn't understand but now that I'm older I see why my dad wasn't around it wasn't him it was her it pisses me off that she won't be truthful about it I want her to take responsibility for what had happened to our family why if she didn't want to be with him why sleep with him and have kids she I didn't ask to be used as a pawn in their twisted game well I want you to know read your words and I care about you wherever you are I hope you have a badass day and I hope you can find the truth in life
I would like to speak about the issue of Jordan not beleiving his friends father was deserving of his friends contempt. I have firsthand knowledge if this. My father, to all outward appearnces is a good man; he gives to charity, sat on the board of directors of a charity fund group, and even chaired it for a time, making choices of how to distrubute said funds that was in the tens of millions (GBP). Regularly had lavish Christmas parties thrown for friends and work colleagues at his home, was also the voted chairman (Commodore) of a local sailing club and arranged and organised regular sailing events throughout the year for members and non members wanting to get the experience of sailing, often at his own personal expense, and charging a nominal "fee" to people who came onto his personal yacht, that was really only to cover mooring fees in France or elsewhere. He did all this and much more - publically. Things at home, privately, were less than rosy. He had repeated affairs, sometimes staying away for days, very probably with his multiple mistresses. He was also a very violently aggressive man if anyone dared to "question his authority" and absolutely was of the mindset "an Englishmans home is his castle and he is the King" - but not in a respectful way, but a "do as I tell you and if you don't I'll physically assault you". When I was 12, I got a broken nose because I had been struggling at school - as if somehow that would motivate me to do better - it didn't and I stopped altogether. I was assaulted again by him when I was 40 and he 65, for daring to mention my feelings on my broken nose and was told quite emphatically after I had been attacked "you'll get no apology from me you ungrateful C***, I'm your father, I don't have to explain myself to you". This was just one of a litany of abuses and abusive behaviour toward myself and his wife (not my biological mother - she had left years before). What most people see of others in society is not even close to being the whole story of a person - and while I have since met people who are genuinely good, these have been only a few of the thousands and thousands I have met in my 53 years of life. So if you know someone who despises anoher - there is probably a good reason for it, even you are not openly aware of it. The old adage of "you don't really know someone until you live with them" is about the truest measure of a human being one will get; whether biological family as well as chosen family. To be good is HARD, it takes discipline and making conscious choices every day to "be a better person" - but to be a mean cocksucker, that's easy, REAL easy, because all you have to do is be yourself, the angry bastard who just wants to shout at that asshole who pulled in front of you, or took your parking spot, or has a political or personal viewpoint that makes your blood boil. It's real easy to be a mean cocksucker and my personal experience is that most people are, when they think no-one they know is watching.
When my uncle died, a huge number of people turned up. Great stories of this great man. My sister and I were nearly wondering whether we accidentally stumbled into the wrong funeral. We would visit and stay over their home, and my uncle was a bully. Big, loud, authoritative bully. Tried to avoid him as much we could. But that whole household was unhealthy, as my aunt was/turned alcoholic and my niece yelled going against them in order to survive. Years later my niece would find excuses for her father’s behaviour, blaming my aunt. Then at some point late 30ties she accused her (than dead) father of sx abuse. I believed her, particularly due some odd choice of words by my aunt. And here lie my cowardice: I never confronted my aunt. I guess people fail to see the bad in others because they don’t want too; it’s easier not having to deal with it.
@@hamster4618 I think you mean cousin not neice; but otherwise I have been pondering this same situation for many years now - when my father dies, how do I deal with the funeral of a man whom I know to be an asshole, yet everyone else thinks is great? Everyone will be there to celebrate this persons life, do I have the right to stand up and tell the stories of the real man?
@@rafezetter8003 yes you have the right to tell your story. But perhaps keep it to your own story, not what he did to others. Simply your relationship. But do it in a way you can live with yourself. Do yourself proud. You won’t if you tell a hallelujah-story about him, but probably also won’t if you vilify him. I loved my father, and I hated him for a while. We worked through it, because when I confronted him with certain issues, he listened. When he died, during my speech I was able to tell both: the love and tipped on struggles, on it not always being easy. Obviously I did get a chance to work through a lot, but still glad I was able and actually told about our life: not all roses, but thorns as well. Respectful, but also done criticism. And in the end, most people know on some level. I had had a major depression, struggling with father-issues, only then did I hear stories about my father I didn’t remember myself, from having jumped between my father and sister at age 3 “you cannot hit my sister!”, and being slapped by him over very little. In the face, hard enough to hurt, soft enough not to leave marks. I hadn’t remembered that, but I did remember being slapped for not finding tools quick enough. Or for speaking at the table when not spoken to.
And that's okay, I don't think he wants everyone to agree with his points, but just trying to make everyone think about these things and take something good about it. Props to you for being mature and understanding something more than just his views of life.
I came home from my honeymoon in Jamaica and met JP in the air port, its almost as if he knew that my dad was very sick and i was having problems with my brother. Im still wiped out, he gave me 2 floor seats to his show, i appreciate you JP
That’s literally my dream. Hope home life improves for you Sir.
@@ashleybryant305 thanks man, i was so caught off gaurd by him. I wanted to really absorb him and talk to him, but i could see he was exhausted, i used to question how real he is but hes the genuine article.
@@marioeid930 Well it sounds like you were meant to bump into him for whatever reason bro. Enjoy the seats. That’ll be incredible for sure!
@@marioeid930 yeah he’s actually a real person who cares,,, and isn’t afraid to show it and take a stance and be different! rare in this day and age.
Top bloke! And hope things are getting better for you. 🙏
You carry a lot of pain Jorden and I know you wont see this message but you kept me alive too. Your thoughts are also mine and witnessing someone with such weight in society makes me feel of worth. I have been on the edge of the cliff I have nothing left in this word and have to crawl back from the void. Your hand is the one I reach for through these videos. Never under estimate how important you are. You are irreplaceable rock a foundation to Millions.
You're very important too. Thank goodness for you.
Man my story is the same and as of 5 minutes ago, I didnt pull the trigger, hmu lets stay alive man, even if the cake ends up as a lie. Serious im random but we can be random together man.
@@AnotherFaceInTheCrowd I spent 15 years of my life with an abusive female I worked 3 low paid jobs renovated an 175 year old Victorian building as our home Put everything9 I had into it mind body and soul. I adored her through taught routine and fear as she had me by the balls She had her name on everything and removed mine from it all. I put up with the dinking and the abuse. When I finished the house we were worth almost $1000.000 I was set to retire in my 50s. Then one day I said she was a bully and abusive. I spoke up. Withing 5 mins she had called the police 3 cars arrived removed me from my home I now own a 14 year old car. she took the house my beautiful dog (that she did not want) and everything that I or my parents had ever owned. Never let a covert Narcissistic person let them know you can see them. I am labelled the abusive and manipulative male. All but a few believe it. I am starting again Covid and the mind zombies destroyed all my work prospects and drained my bank accounts. The government will not help they have given all the money to the illegals. But they did fine me $900 for a tax code change. I watch comedy now, never read or watch any news and stay away from all social media. It is only ever negative. Life can be good Its just i am starting it again. A Keto diet does help too. Take care. I now try exercising my self to death. It works really well. It makes me positive and too sleepy to be bothered taking the Icarus jump.
@@elmafudd9703 that's an incredibly sad story my friend. I pray times get easier for you and all this turmoil is temporary
@@AnotherFaceInTheCrowd I love that idea. And you're very powerful for acknowledging your struggles but still acknowledging someone else's plus it's not about you feeling better your comment was a hope that you'd both feel better at least a lil bit through one another. That's the type of thinking this world can use more of. Be strong my friends and know you're not alone and all of this is temporary
Jordan's empathy is pure and deeply emotional. It's something you rarely find in society today. I remember as child receiving all kinds of words of encouragement. Now, I'm lucky if someone tells me thank you for something I've done. If we can't bring out the intrinsic value of each other, what good are we doing? You never know what trauma or loss another person has experienced. Go out on a limb, take a chance, offer a smile, speak a kind word, and the rest will take care of itself. Your actions, simple as they may be, could be the best thing that happened to a soul in need.
One word taoism
"People are starving for a word of encouragement" those words are powerful not the first time I heard him say it. I was in a cafe today the ladies who worked there were super nice and the service was terrific. I told them they were great and I would leave them a good review on Google. A genuine kind word is something we should be giving each other with no agenda ( not fake niceness ). Thank you for educating me JP
My dear Mother faithfully taught this, and I've been on both sides. 🙏
Your kindness no doubt rippled on, you made their day, they went home and their positive energy reflected onto the people around them. This is why it’s so important to just be nice to people. Smile at strangers.
One of the most enduring lessons I have learned from Jordan is to do what you think of doing, but don’t. In one video he said, if you think of doing something and you don’t do it, you must have a reason, right? We’re humans and we’re rational and analytical: ask yourself why you’re not doing it, see if you have a good reason. If you don’t, do it. How many times have we thought of thanking someone or going the extra inch for a tiny bit more kindness or offering a hand for just a few seconds or minutes of help, maybe even to a stranger on the street, yet we don’t do it for almost no reason? Such little efforts reap great rewards.
So spot on, " People are starving for a word of encouragement. "
We're soo self deprecating. It's casual to speak of the demise of people. We don't even think we deserve dogs. But you know what, if we didn't, we wouldn't have them. Maybe we are deserving of good things when we align ourselves properly. It's no good to think we're worthless.
@@pizzasmithdude Sick of all the guilt and shame the left piles on the human race - they literally say they want humans to go extinct. And their environmental pseudoscience is a complete load of bs, just another way to guilt trip and control.
And for basic courtesy.
Ya know, I’ve seen a lot of people make fun of Jordan for crying. But I think it’s really important that he does. These are deadly serious things he’s talking about and he treats them like that. I’ve seen people light up when I’ve given them the most simple encouragement and I realized that they had never heard it before.
John 11:35
God bless your compassion and kindness.. You're speaking to the people's deepest yearning.. Their soul.. To know they are intrinsically important... And telling people that. Thank you
Well said!
Suicide is a complicated issue. It’s hard to justify living a life in which the majority of your time is spent doing things that steal your soul. Life is hard to survive let alone realize your talents and goals. Be well.
I do not know much but the doctor who handled my best mates suicide said it was predestinated his brain was resurched after death I still do not understand but I know he was brainwashed in a cult
But suicide is the easy way out for you but a very very hard thing for your family and friends, which is what I use as a reason not to do it.
@@lucindasweden5778 Everything is predetermined. We just aren't usually intelligent enough to see it.
@@scottashe984 okey Scott, but I can never accept it as there will always bee a chooise , other people has great impact of your decisions ,
@@scottashe984 that theory was proved wrong, the notion is that everything that can happen will happen, and you might be more likely to do something in your life, but it isn’t really predetermined. This supports the idea of quantum fluctuations.
Such an authentic, intelligent and wonderful humanbeing. Jordan continues to be a great inspiration.
Jordan is an empath.
Jordan is a crybaby
@@Josh-sj9ig the world needs more people like Jordan. Jesus said the meek shall inherit the earth.
Russian agent. And needs to be removed from American soil.
How does it feel, Josh, to have no influence whatsoever on people when a "crybaby" has already influenced milllions for the better ?
Doctor Peterson Canada loves and adores his humanitarian philosopher light worker for what you’ve been doing particularly during dark time on humanity in Canada and internationally. 🇨🇦🇮🇷❤️
Jordan's heart is so close to the surface , although only God and he know the horrors he has seen. But it just wipes me out every time he starts to cry. I am empathic myself but his level is way up there. Must be hard to be that and do what he does. God bless him.
I don't think that you (JP) has any real idea how much people really love him and his amazing courage willing to stand up to got overreach on our behalf. Not only is he also amazingly intelligent but his love foe his family is so touching not to mention his live for the human race
How could any vaguely sentient being ever vilify this man's genuine compassion for and understanding of the eternal paradox that is the human condition ...?
I have so much respect for this man.
I would love to speak with this man personally! He would probably diagnose me as a cataclysmic mess!😂🤣😂 oh but the fire in his soul🔥💜🙏🏼 He feels so deeply, and allows us to see.💜💜💜🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Prayers and Love for you Dr. Peterson
Dr.Peterson is a breathe of fresh air for many people who have struggled every minute of every day.
The worst possible predator is the spirit that animated all of them.
Psychologists and psychiatrists see so much damn deep misery, tough job.
My best friend committed suicide a week before her 16th birthday. I would go on to name my daughter after her. My baby is only three and so at her young age she's still so bright, innocent and pure. It breaks my heart to know my friend was at one time the same way and that somewhere down the line, her spirit and lust for life would be crushed. I look at my daughter and can only pray to lead her down a path of a long, happy life but I know nothing is guaranteed. I know there are things I will fail at, things I can't protect her from and evil in the world I cannot even fathom. The scale of my friend's tragedy is only more pronounced as time passes but one of the few positive outcomes is I think it has made me a better parent. Thank you Jordan Peterson for all the tragedies you've helped prevent. You've saved countless lives
Just don't lose sight. It isn't a happy life you want for your daughter (although you definitely do), it's a meaningful one! Good luck out there, I know you can do this!
yea having a kid was probably an irresponsible move in the long run...nice going!
WTF punk jazz??!!
i wish you and your daughter the best in life "if love is the answer you're home" ❤
@@neitherhellnorheaven That's very kind, thank you. God bless
The hate thrown Jordan's way is unwarrented.
I just want to hug Jordan. A real lion 🦁 ♥️
It’s painful to be an Empath and JP goes through that pain very severely , it’s heartbreaking . We appreciate your sensitivity JP but please take care of yourself . guard your heart.
J p is love personified
😢 thank you doc I’ was having a day again but I can’t give up now ❤
You got this, Madison.
@@chippyonline001 thank you 😊
God bless this great man
Community is vital to the well being of humans, we have never lived in isolation from one another because the world is complex and we need complex answers that can only be found in the collective. For this reason it is vitally important that we support and build communities of people that are healthy , children who are loved and fed, cared for by all…
God bless this man. I’m so lucky my parents gave me his book 12 Rules at the time they did. My best friend at the time, who I really tried to be there for, had killed himself-shot himself in the head. That hadn’t been the first time I’d tried to be there for somebody going down a dark path, and this tendency was addressed in his book-it felt like he was speaking to me directly. Or, rather, that God himself was speaking to me through him. It shook me to my core, and was absolutely essential in altering my trajectory forward.
Beautifully said
This man, while being so eloquent and obviously cerebral, has at his centre empathy for the pain his fellow man experiences. The way he lives his knowing of people's pain gives me encouragement that humans are not all lost in themselves.
It’s always interesting and even a little funny how his followers are mostly the cerebral rationalist analytical types, and when he’s interviewed by one of them you always see them blank-faced when Jordan is moved to tears
It's just a comment but probably the best way to support a man that supports so many people that struggle to understand what's effecting them.
He has absorbed so much over his life time and definitely points a way through for so many of us.
Jordan is the ultimate parent figure we need and lacked, but don't deserve.
Everyone deserves a good parent
JP probably doesn't even realise the sincere and deep love and respect, that many and I have for him. He is a beautiful soul.
An absolute light he is 💫
This is the most depressing talk ever!❤️ Love you Jordon. Isn’t there preventative measures we can learn/ do . ? I believe how we treat each other leads to so much loneliness, starting with basic manners,or sometimes keeping your own council,perhaps too simplistic. Keep up the good work Sir! Your words of encouragement touch many.You are a blessing.😮
Since I started listening to Peterson, I felt like if he had saved my life, and if I had him face to face, I'd tell him; "Thank you for existing Mr. Peterson, there should be more people like you on this Earth". Nowadays, I'm not an atheist anymore thanks to him.
Love you Jordan! Don’t ever doubt the powerful effect you are having on men AND women towards the betterment of their lives and those around us who you touch. God bless you sir
Im sure his soul heart even before he was a beacon of light for everyone else. It’s too much in him. It really is.
What's too much in him?
Your number needs to be unlisted, mate. You need to guard your health carefully now your getting older
How I envy anyone who had the complete privilege of having JP as their clinician.
His friend had C-PTSD, possibly from emotional neglect. Jung's very deep, but just like he described his friend, sometimes we get stuck in the underworld, and Winnicot, Bowlby, even Freud make some sense of the dynamics. Also, Interpersonal Neurobiology provides some really impressive insights into the role of nurture in "creating" the brain, and the importance of caregiving, and the developmental processes which are either nurtured to create resilience, or not adequately nurtured. Dr. Alan Schore's "The first 1000 Days" (on YT) i found very enlightening, yet also sad as we're, as a culture, unconsciously and inadvertently creating many of the societal problems that we see and are attempting to resolve on the back-end. "It is easier to raise a solid child than to repair a broken man"-Unknown
It is not easier for a substantially wounded parent to create the strong child, so it's harder for society to assist the "broken" man.
Thoughtful words. Will have to check out 1000 Days. Thank you for sharing.
@@lulumoon6942 Thanks.
@@Eric-tj3tg It was like watching myself in the mirror when he spoke about his friend. I had a brutal past with my father that lasted for way too long before I left that house for go abroad 1 way ticket, and questions of meaning torment me too.
@@the_bogeyman. I hear ya Bogeyman. I'm sorry for what you've endured and am wishing well on your exploration (courageous). I also struggle with meaning, and sincerely hope that you find some answers for yourself "out there." Best.
@@Eric-tj3tg I will probably never find an answer. I am ”agnostic” a fair bit and that doesn’t help, quite the opposite. I started to avoid church and their ”cult” community of liers (at least where I grew up) already in my teens.
Ego, amygdala, and critical criticism. We’re all destroying each other and ourselves
We're so very good at helping entropy.
There are so many of us who are still alive because of Jordan Peterson. I really hope he understands how many people are just so grateful for what he does every day.
Nice clip!
That stranger JP talked about has got to be the luckiest person despite the horrible events that happened to him. For someone to be there in your darkest, most abominable moments in life, and for them to help you pull through... it's unspeakable how life-changing that can be to someone.
A give to humanity… why the hatred against this man?
This is a good and decent man.
I never see Jordan Peterson cry a single tear for the number of women who are violently slain year in and year out just because they are female. Frightened to go out at night, trust a taxi driver etc. This impacts decent men too as women fear trusting men who are genuinely honest. Actually they're more at risk of death and violence from their own partners. Yet Peterson believes male violence is because they aren't in relationships?? Cry tears for my neighbour butchered by her monster of a husband who served only three years imprisonment after claiming he was depressed at the time. He was released and murdered another innocent woman one month later.
like the power of cinema something wonderful can reduce you to tears of joy. JBP thanks for existing
Do you know why this man is such a healing and blessing to us? Because he has the attributes of Jesus the Christ. When will we learn to scorn the bullies, call out the misanthropes and exact justice on the tyrants. When that is done, we love people with the Love of Christ. Meet them in their need, show them the wisdom and set the conscience right. We love you Jordan B.
god bless you Dr peterson.
this man is changing so many lives
Those pills 💊 cooked JPs brain
I wish I could have an hour with him to talk, I’m in a bad place mentally with depression and things bothering ne
There are some truly baffling, top level troll bots in the Comments. Are you that dark, or daft? Wow.
how does one simply call Jordan Peterson without knowing him?
My mate topped his self,at his funeral I could've stop laughing ... uncontrollable laughter ....I had to pretend I was crying ....wtf ...I'd love to know what was going on in my brain
It was a very funny funeral
The vicar was completely insane and kept banging the coffin and shouting out are you in there mark ...
Then telling us he wasn't there coz he was with God ..
All these years later it still makes me laugh
Yes life can be so absurd, that's why your laughter. Maybe your friend somehow made it to a higher place despite the suicide and was looking down laughing too.
Sounds like Mark might've been around! Sorry for the loss of your mate, but glad your memories of him include laughter, bet that's what he'd want.
Well that's why I never showed up we couldn't stop laughing
@@barbarasherman4870 I just want to say that was such a wholesome response
How about that JP Netanyahu brown-nosing interview? Did you all like that?
HI Jordan. I wish I couch say something better, but thank you. I've been watching your videos and reading your books for years now. Where would I be without you? Thank you, so much. Thank you, thank you.
You can be sure that JP will cry in 95% of discussions.
Wow! This one is worth watching!
Dumbest thing to not legalize MAID. Spare the grief
Life isn't inherently meaningful. The best you can do is create a life that is meaningful to you.
My brother took his own life too
Jordan is crying for all the men who can't.
I just had a breakthrough in understanding his audience and now I'm heartbroken too.
God.
Bless you, Catherine, for having the bravery to explore the unknown, and for opening your heart. ❤️🙏💞
A lot of evil spirits animated a lot of murderous "Christians" in history as well
This man is becoming an emotional wreck
I would be very interested to hear an analysis from Jordan Peterson of Havari of the WEF.
What is that?
Believe this man's views or not, whatever, but you can't deny Jorden has a heart and really gives a damn about what he says. His job has a hard toll but the help it's given outweighs it. Keep strong everyone!
I would give fingers and toes to have just 2hrs talking to this guy. This guy is genuine...SO RARE
Nah, you just got to have $$$, that's all.
how many times has crybaby peterson cried on camera at this point
I would like to know more of this story, but there are so many other videos to click on.
Peterson writes about a friend who committed suicide in his first 12 rules book. He tends to get emotional when he gets too close to this topic (demoralisation of young men, people starved for a kind word or encouragement, and how utterly tragic and avoidable this is). Every time it happens I see where its coming from and it’s authentic. He’s not randomly applying the waterworks.
If you have a heart, I mean the metaphor in two ways, one is emotional goodness, the other is a sensibility to feel the suffering of other as if it were yourself. So, if you have a heart it seems to me impossible not to feel the pain of Jordan who has the courage to look at the abyss... I guess is a spiritual courage. If you listen to his sincerity, his love for humanity, his authentic cry for help himself and to help others.. if you do not cry with him in such deep emotional struggle to find meaning and salvation, I respectfully believe the coldness of your heart is to be acknowledge. I say all of this in my not to clear English, to say the interviewer of Peterson is either acting a cold persona or is strangely cold and detached
I know because I've been suicidal and thanks for the loving wisdom cry of Peterson I'm still alive.
I think the point of the interviewer was to hold a certain detachment..but in my opinion, he did not sound ,,cold,,. Hey, I for one, am glad you´re still around!
I simply can't understand any criticism leveled at this guy, usually because it lacks substance...
I not only should but must choose myself in this life, even if it hurts at times.
I lost the only black member of my extended family. My cousin took his own life not long after 30. He was the gentle giant in my family - and the few photos I have of us when we were kids showed we were close. Even then I never asked why this big black boy was my cousin... I simply assumed he was adopted - because no one ever explained to me that he was actually conceived by my aunt and fostered to another aunt. He was a chef for a time and one of the most gentle people I ever met. He went home one day to meet his father he never saw growing up and I'm not sure if this helped (in PNG north of Australia). Nor all the antidepressants, antipsychotics and whatever else. The last time I saw him alive was looking confused and disoriented at an intersection in the city - we hadn't seen each other in almost two decades - there was no relationship, but there was a memory - I knew we recognised each other but both agreed not to say hello. In a way, I feel lucky I didn't know him.. The pain of losing someone to suicide you truly love must be an extraordinary grief to live with. Bigger than any of your own possible failures, they seem trivial. I could have rolled down the window and called out to Yulian.
I'm so sorry the world, and you, lost a spirit like Yulian. It helps to talk to the ones we've lost, when alone. Give it a go, you might be surprised. 🪶
They are smarter than you think. True words. I remember being quite smart when I was that age. Not bragging but sincerely saying. It’s stupid to think they don’t understand.
Pre Christian Canadian Natives had slavery and cannibalism. Nuf said.
Who owns this channel?
JP has been an inspiration for me.
Jordan you are wonderful!
5:53 Bad relationship with the father and questions of meaning was hard to hear for me.
I felt anger and stress when my father was at home. Waited too long before move out and leave that hell.
It’s stuff that can affect one for a lifetime.
Been there myself. Courage!
JP -People are starving for a word of encouragement. Also JP...Fill your own pitcher. Don't be dependent on the opinions or permissions of others.
If they kill themselves they were really your best friend
What a stupid title. "Hyper emotional" .... How about he's a living, feeling being who's attuned to the reality of his emotional landscape. The word hyper suggests something pathological which is ridiculous
The worst predator : The spirit that animated all of them.
Yes that's it . Be aware of the spirit that can animate within us. Thank you. What a pearler 😃
Genuine question…how do we justify bringing more innocent, sentient, pain experiencing people here to this net negative world? It’s a majority suffering world.
Why bring more innocence here to suffer & struggle?
To what end? Particularly when there is so much life here that already needs help to stop being tortured.
Nature is by its nature predatory, vampiric & self consuming.
Some beauty yes, but mostly a bloodbath.
Every birth means inevitable new suffering, fear & death that is unnecessary.
Well im not sure on this topic entirely, but my interpretation of what JP and others have talked about is that the world is not about not suffering. The world is a cruel place and that is the nature of it, but living isn't meant to innately happy. Struggling and suffering is both necessary and beautiful. It is that suffering that opens up pockets of happiness among ones life and that is the true meaning of life.
@@thereplicator306 Thank you for your message. I will certainly contemplate it.
I'm not sure that all the trauma & torture experienced here by innocence could ever justify the small levels of pleasure or happiness. The delight of life absolutely pales comparison to the vast, vast suffering.
It's completely A-symmetrical.
Eating a good meal or enjoying pleasurable connection is so minuscule compared to getting eaten by another creature or slowly dying of disease. Nature & reality is a vicious, gory & cold tragedy in my opinion.
The means (perpetual murder, pain & slaughter) in this case do not justify the ends (meaning and purpose) to me and many others. Life truly appears to be a curse to empathetic sentience & not a gift.Curious to hear your thoughts please.
Thanks for reading. I appreciate you.
@@kanemclaren5991 Perhaps you haven't discovered the true thrill of life. A life in which you control more then you don't control. This will give you a sense of purpose and belonging that far exceeds your sense of suffering. I have been on the other side and now I am on the right side. Life is lovely and kind once you are there and whatever your saying becomes out of the question
You can give him a chance. A few pages or chaoters of one of his books or maybe a few minutes of his lecture series here on YT can help introduce you to him. Hope it helps
@@kanemclaren5991 thanks for the good clear message.
I recently watched another video of JP where he described something that I think has great affinity with me. He said roughly, the reason we must continue to push ourselves to become better people everyday is because from his perspective the greatest good in this world far outweighs the bad. This is a pretty hard idea to grasp considering this comes from someone who has researched the worst of the worst since he was young, Mao, Stalin, and hitler mostly. But I think it works, there is a tremendous amount of good in this world although it is safe to say that the world is by nature suffering. The only thing we should push ourselves for is to become better stronger everyday because living life to reduce that suffering very slightly everyday. I mostly think this because the alternative is what you mentioned, a meaningless existence in the world which sounds a lot less appealing.
This also comes from a partially religious perspective as I am Muslim.
Thanks, and let me know what you think
This has me beyond my tears and my feelings, and its as if no one can understand me or believe how much pain I feel inside.. lost my mom to cancer 2 years ago at 30 years old and have no other immediate family. I turned to alcohol to cope and in turn my fiance left me and since then, ive been just wandering through life a day at a time without purpose or any hope. it truly is a tragedy, and im just so tired of feeling like this.
I´m sorry for loss and what you´ ve had to cope with! I hope it gets better for you soon!
Bro, Love you ( no homo)
"the spirit that motivated them" -- does that mean the common mindset of society, or does that signify some ghostly entity existing outside of the human mentality? I like that Peterson gives Jung a prominant place in psychology, he's not wrong.
I need him. He is the voice many need to here. I am trying to find my inner value. I have a PhD and nothing lasting has worked out in the years since graduation. Failure to self-actualize so far has been crushing. Almost 50, no career legacy. Now I work packing trucks. It’s been soul crushing, humbling, and I cry often on the way to and from work. I love my coworkers’ collegiality, but I have been on the edge as I no longer know who I am, as I used to identify with my prestigious degree. JP speaks to me on a deep level.
Dr. Peterson's life experiences across personal, family and professional suggest a whole universe of depth, realization, and witnessing the many sides of humanity. Imagine experiencing so many different kinds of people's vulnerable, deeper inner selves over how many decades, then also operating on an international business level - working with economists and scientists on worldwide environmental and economic issues. Then later becoming so loved and hated to such an extreme.
With people in Jordan's position, we should have some patience, curiosity and awareness to remember, most of us don't have his unique life experience. We can appreciate and learn from JBP even with his limits, flaws etc. This was a much better moment to witness than anything "perfect" could be.
Bless you jp.🙏💚💚💚🙏
I lost my friend. I miss him very much. I look forward to seeing him again.
Yeah, my mum basically didn't bother doing anything with me as a child, her relationship with my dad just collapsed, & I always took her at her word of what an man child incompetent he was.
I never talked to him until a few years ago, & I still ahrdly do but that's cos I don't talk to literally anyone.
But, my god, I argued quite strongly with my mum quite a lot growing up, things just felt absurdly stupid & lazy from her.
The amount of times I really needed help with things going on in my head & her response 1 time I remember quite clealry, was simply "Well normal people don't think like that"
That was literally it, that was what she said, Jesus I've had more than 2 decades to think on that & all my childhood, & man, she was just completely dissinterested in the extreme.
I've wondered a lot about what they were atually like together, & having finally talked with him, & he is extremely open, I've noticed they now are entirely incompatibel, but also, the stories he tells me about her, she sounds like a completely different person.
I've wondered about post natal depression, but, even so, she's never ever bothered to talk about anything, when I try to she just, it's like there's fuck all going on in her head.
& the thing's she talks about in her past right deep into childhood, the thing's shes told me going through her head back then, they sound exactly like the person I see today, she seems so very narrow of thought & yet, her mind is like an encyclopedia when it comes to history & art.
But I know fuck all about any of that so, how am I to even know how accurate anything she says on the subject is, for all I know she could be filling in enormous holes with fancy sounding phrases.
But holy shit, a whole lot became much clearer after I started talking too my dad, the way me & mum argued, the way she just, doesn't bloody talk, I can perfectly well see the both of them arguing & her just shutting everyone out only compounding problems.
It's what she's always done to me, she'll say such sarcastic sounding things about me, my room, but she's done fuck all to actually encourage me, & I've even literally said that back too her when she's having a go about my room, it's just comletely unhelpful or productive & just demoralises me & makes me feel bad, Me who was already paranoid from a horrific experience in Primary school.
Literally being bullied by teachers in the last 3 years, 1 of whom was actually fired & banned from working with children, he was the first 1 that did that to me, & it didn't stop there because after that I was just paranoid going to school & so completely dysfunctional in class.
I don't see how she wasn't like she is now before, my dad, she just seems to ignore anything I say that's actually important, about her me my brother.
I basically had Zero encouragement growing up, I can probably literally count on my hands the amount of times she ever did, & they were sports days, when I froze up, that was literally it, literally a few single times, I never did homework, she never checked on it, the only times she ever said anything too me was when the school actually sent a letter through the post to ensure it got to her.
& the few times she did try to get me to do the homework, it wasn't help me do it, it was force me, & fight with me, & become completely impatient, which, that's totally not distressing to 7 year old.
She just literally never bothered with me, god I remember trying to join in conversation with her & my bro & just being told to shut up & go away, & that was it, that's my entire childhood.
It's wierd because I remember loving her so strongly, & it's turned into such resentment, I just don't let myself think about it because it's very destructive, it's so wierd to see her just literally not care, when I have talked about it, she just doesn't give a single shit.
& that, my god, that is so cmompletely demoralising & paralysing, my love is attatched to that, & she's hardly incompetent, that's the part that really crushes, she just doesn't bother thinking about you, & that's hardly specific too me, she never talks to her brother, or mine, "Because they'll be busy"
Our family only ever talks maybe once or twice a year, sometimes only once, it's so wierd.
My dad's side is the opposite, but I don't want to talk to them anyway, they're a tad difficult to just get along with & I've always got a lot going on in my head, people say the stupidest things like fact & don't actually want a conversation, which is funny, because I've actaully found my dad 1 of the easiest to talk too now that I've gotten used to his seemingly forcefull way of talking, all you have to do is say your piece back, he's the easiest to talk too when you just speak your mind.
My mum on the other hand, oh, she just shuts down like she's being insulted.
You know, the distressing part in all of this, I know if I feel this nbow when I think about my childhood.
I know this is going to be part of my thoughts, perhaps a dominating part, when she passes.
How, The Fuck Is That Going To Feel?
Some of you will probably have experienced this exact thing already.
I should really deal with this, but I can't talk with her about it, she just won't engage with it, I've tried calmy just speaking on 1 particular point, & she can't bring herself to talk on it, I think, maybe, who know's she won't respond.
So I just have to find my own way to come to terms with everything.
Because my shcool utterly failed me & many other kids too, so it's not like this is all on my mother or father.
This is a very complex problem.
& at this point I'm an adult, so it is surely completely in my power to confront myself on this, perhaps that's what I need to do, but it has to be constructive, because lord knows I've beaten myself up for decades on this, even as a child when me n mum argued, I'd go away & burst into tears that I could get like that with my mum, but I never thought, she could just as easily be like that with me, & she never seemed to have that same feeling after.
Which probably enhanced my resentment over the years because I could see she didn't feel that & so probably I was all of the problem, & with years to think about these things you realise that no, we're all human beings with nervous systems built on chemicals & that person never made up for the distressing moments.
Which is funny, because my dad does seem capable of this, & he was the 1 I was seperated from my whole life, I mean they split & she got custody I Do Not Know Why, before I was 3, I literally don't have a memory of when they were together.
It really seems like she destroyed everything, I mean, in terms of our childhood, there was literally no reason to tear all of us apart, she chose too do that.
& given what I remember of the times I was with my dad on that 1 fucking day a week, I'm really at a loss as to what in the fk motivated her too do that to us, me & my brother I mean.
I've seen a few relationships like that in my adult life with people who got together & just shagged a whole new life into the world & been completely dysfunctional as a couple who were complete idiots, but even them, have more care with their kid than my mother apparently did with us.
There's absolutely no reason she should've fought for completel custody.
The only reason I can make sense of, is she felt vengeful, which, she more than got on him with that custody, he basically missed our entire lives.
I can't see how any other reason fits, she literally fought for just 1 day a week, not the weekend.
I don't get why, because she hardly bothered her arse with me, we argued more than had constructive conversations.
My mother destroyed my relationship with my father as I kid I didn't understand but now that I'm older I see why my dad wasn't around it wasn't him it was her it pisses me off that she won't be truthful about it I want her to take responsibility for what had happened to our family why if she didn't want to be with him why sleep with him and have kids she I didn't ask to be used as a pawn in their twisted game well I want you to know read your words and I care about you wherever you are I hope you have a badass day and I hope you can find the truth in life
Just running around wagging it's tail killing itself happy as Larry, oblivious
I would like to speak about the issue of Jordan not beleiving his friends father was deserving of his friends contempt. I have firsthand knowledge if this. My father, to all outward appearnces is a good man; he gives to charity, sat on the board of directors of a charity fund group, and even chaired it for a time, making choices of how to distrubute said funds that was in the tens of millions (GBP).
Regularly had lavish Christmas parties thrown for friends and work colleagues at his home, was also the voted chairman (Commodore) of a local sailing club and arranged and organised regular sailing events throughout the year for members and non members wanting to get the experience of sailing, often at his own personal expense, and charging a nominal "fee" to people who came onto his personal yacht, that was really only to cover mooring fees in France or elsewhere.
He did all this and much more - publically.
Things at home, privately, were less than rosy. He had repeated affairs, sometimes staying away for days, very probably with his multiple mistresses. He was also a very violently aggressive man if anyone dared to "question his authority" and absolutely was of the mindset "an Englishmans home is his castle and he is the King" - but not in a respectful way, but a "do as I tell you and if you don't I'll physically assault you".
When I was 12, I got a broken nose because I had been struggling at school - as if somehow that would motivate me to do better - it didn't and I stopped altogether.
I was assaulted again by him when I was 40 and he 65, for daring to mention my feelings on my broken nose and was told quite emphatically after I had been attacked "you'll get no apology from me you ungrateful C***, I'm your father, I don't have to explain myself to you".
This was just one of a litany of abuses and abusive behaviour toward myself and his wife (not my biological mother - she had left years before).
What most people see of others in society is not even close to being the whole story of a person - and while I have since met people who are genuinely good, these have been only a few of the thousands and thousands I have met in my 53 years of life.
So if you know someone who despises anoher - there is probably a good reason for it, even you are not openly aware of it.
The old adage of "you don't really know someone until you live with them" is about the truest measure of a human being one will get; whether biological family as well as chosen family.
To be good is HARD, it takes discipline and making conscious choices every day to "be a better person" - but to be a mean cocksucker, that's easy, REAL easy, because all you have to do is be yourself, the angry bastard who just wants to shout at that asshole who pulled in front of you, or took your parking spot, or has a political or personal viewpoint that makes your blood boil.
It's real easy to be a mean cocksucker and my personal experience is that most people are, when they think no-one they know is watching.
True words. Been there. Best to you in your healing. You and your family deserved better.
When my uncle died, a huge number of people turned up. Great stories of this great man. My sister and I were nearly wondering whether we accidentally stumbled into the wrong funeral.
We would visit and stay over their home, and my uncle was a bully. Big, loud, authoritative bully. Tried to avoid him as much we could. But that whole household was unhealthy, as my aunt was/turned alcoholic and my niece yelled going against them in order to survive.
Years later my niece would find excuses for her father’s behaviour, blaming my aunt. Then at some point late 30ties she accused her (than dead) father of sx abuse. I believed her, particularly due some odd choice of words by my aunt.
And here lie my cowardice: I never confronted my aunt.
I guess people fail to see the bad in others because they don’t want too; it’s easier not having to deal with it.
@@hamster4618 I think you mean cousin not neice; but otherwise I have been pondering this same situation for many years now - when my father dies, how do I deal with the funeral of a man whom I know to be an asshole, yet everyone else thinks is great?
Everyone will be there to celebrate this persons life, do I have the right to stand up and tell the stories of the real man?
@@rafezetter8003 yes, cousin! (in my language Dutch the word for cousin and niece is the same).
@@rafezetter8003 yes you have the right to tell your story. But perhaps keep it to your own story, not what he did to others. Simply your relationship. But do it in a way you can live with yourself. Do yourself proud. You won’t if you tell a hallelujah-story about him, but probably also won’t if you vilify him.
I loved my father, and I hated him for a while. We worked through it, because when I confronted him with certain issues, he listened. When he died, during my speech I was able to tell both: the love and tipped on struggles, on it not always being easy. Obviously I did get a chance to work through a lot, but still glad I was able and actually told about our life: not all roses, but thorns as well. Respectful, but also done criticism.
And in the end, most people know on some level. I had had a major depression, struggling with father-issues, only then did I hear stories about my father I didn’t remember myself, from having jumped between my father and sister at age 3 “you cannot hit my sister!”, and being slapped by him over very little.
In the face, hard enough to hurt, soft enough not to leave marks. I hadn’t remembered that, but I did remember being slapped for not finding tools quick enough. Or for speaking at the table when not spoken to.
What a great man Jordan is.
I don’t agree with Jordan for most of his opinions, However, it’s refreshing to see a person genuinely care about others and that I admire.
Appreciate you candor. Try to keep this utmost in your analysis of his statements and works, it is clearly his motivation.
And that's okay, I don't think he wants everyone to agree with his points, but just trying to make everyone think about these things and take something good about it. Props to you for being mature and understanding something more than just his views of life.
@@ars-ng6wp thanks 😊
My mate killed himself, RIP Artus.
Man I wish he could also do this with joy and fun rather than always feeling so tormented.
Try being low income, female, believe in Christ, yet still placed ine Category of TROLLS>..
All her gets nowadays is emotional. It looks PATHETIC