You need to be at a certain starting point for training to be worth it. If you’re so clumsy you can’t drag tape across a cardboard box it’s not worth it, they can find others who aren’t
@@swegatron2859 He obviously could and did do it tho? Someone just needed to tell him to drag the tape quickly so it doesn't get stuck. This boss is a fool
@@bang1054This is why Republicans are so deadset on never allowing any kind of social programs to flourish. They would never want to get rid of the hammer that would hit down all those moles. If healthcare, for instance, is tied to a job, then workers can't afford to look around or take some weeks unemployed while looking for new work.
if you’re that pitifully terrible at taping boxes it would be way easier to simply find someone who already has this fairly basic skill. no point in waiting a week for this guy to learn how to do it and probably still be bad
The context missing here is he’s supposedly filling a seasonal position. They don’t have time to wait for temp employees to improve cuz they need production right now
@@georget4141 Guy, it's taping boxes. He's not assembling or servicing sensitive electronics. Around two weeks of training is necessary and _typical_ in almost all jobs, let along blue-collar. If they can't afford two weeks of training, let alone for something as simple as _taping boxes,_ the company isn't worth working for. It's a ship getting ready to sink.
@@DeliberateContrarian Love that your mind goes straight to China. If your working conditions are only above the sweatshop nation and no one else, it says a lot.
@@poa2.0surface77 no, if that was Wal-Mart, the manager would be terminated immediately for public humiliation once HR finds out about it. It's part of their management training.
@@suzycatipiller821 manager should be fired for public humiliation. You don't fire people in front of other employees as it's disrespectful, unprofessional, and classified as harassment. That's why managers have offices, call em over discreetly and give the employee basic privacy.
@@plastictouch6796 wow isn't Amazon a really friendly company. I just love living in a society where getting a job means throwing up our life into it and effectively being slaves.
I worked on an assembly line before, and one day, I got switched to a different department because the manager of the previous department I worked at wanted to have this girl be closer to him. Anyways, I worked on this line for one day, like thrown into the deep end. It was assembling smoke detectors, and because I couldn't keep up, there was a backlog of alarms on my table. I wasn't aware that they can get scraped and damaged left on the table so all my alarms were deemed faulty. I remeber the manager coming over and looking at everything and I knew I was fucked. When I got home, I got a text message saying they didn't need me anymore. I was always so embarrassed about it, but now that I'm older, I realize wtf did they expect? Why did they put an inexperienced person on that line?
On the bright side, maybe you dodged a bullet. In the long term it's better that you got away from that toxic environment and an incompetent boss. Hope you found something better.
@@TheCelticTiger32 You still benefitted from that situation though, because now you are armed with knowledge/experience and are far more likely to stick up for yourself next time. If things had gone well, you may not have learned that, and even if you did, might not have taken it as seriously. Live and learn
The dude couldn’t figure out a tape roller. The speed probably would have been ignored for a week or two if he wasn’t utterly incompetent at such a simple action.
@@mattburkett9419 Have you used a rape roller? tape gun. Whatever the fuck you want to call it. Like someone else pointed out, you can get ones that are extremely smooth and then get one that doesn't move at all. Used them before. Some are easy. Some just have too much tension and don't work. My guess is he had one that didn't work all that well. You could see it was putting too much tension on the tape by how the end of the box with tape on it was starting crush a little. Even something as simple as a tape roller requires practice in order to become fast and efficient at using. You'd be the type of guy to fire someone because you haven't give them more than 5 minutes to practice and get accustomed to the equipment that they're using. What's funny about this is the guy that fired him, guarantee he wouldn't be able to hit the target numbers in his first day either. The only time you get rid of someone that's slow, is when they've been adequately trained, had plenty of practice over the past week and still suck at doing a simple task. But you first have to actually let them get used to doing that thing.
@@justincider8892 how do you know he doesnt? Technically i own a small part of a large company and its all those people working for me adding value and i didnt do anything except hold shares and put my oven pizza in at 425. One time I started a business and I learned more than I ever thought I would but it failed.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss I’d guess they mean because promoting someone who’s that good at a job doesn’t happen for a reason. I had to threaten to quit in order to get a different job where I am because I was easily doing the job of 3 people
Those tape guns are the easiest thing to use imaginable. More over dramatised television, making the boss exaggerate the difficulty of the job to force the message "Wow I didn't realise how difficult my employees had it taping up boxes, I had it easy all this time. I'm going to promote one of them." Big reveal, he's the out of touch boss who wants to integrate himself more and work as a team. Yada yada horse shit.
@@Alejandro_C62 it’s not “Oh please 🙄” it’s actual truth…. I worked at plenty of jobs with “bad” companies and the management made it worth my while to stay. And I’ve worked for a couple of other “bad” companies with management being complete incompetent and favoritism was running rampant. Makes you, as a hard worker, not wanna work at that establishment being ran by an incomplete management.
While bad managers can make a good company bad, a good manager cannot make a bad company good 🤷 you need good company and management and today that's apparently asking for too much
I'm a manager for UPS & I can assure you that the tape used by these companies does not hold up. Your boxes get torn apart & merchandise often misplaced because companies like this put the minimal amount of effort in making sure their products are secured. You sacrifice quality for speed. There's no reason to fire someone who isn't fast enough when you, yourself, don't do quality work. Those tape guns are the worst to use as they get stuck rather easily. Plus the tape they're using couldn't stick to glue but sure, blame the new hire lol
@@420247paul It's not the driver's fault, usually. When those packages come through our system, they get mixed in with other packages of different weights & sizes. If a jam should occur, which does happen, packages tend to pile up. There are multiple factors that play into how a package gets damaged & piss poor quality tape is surely one of them. Companies should spend the extra couple dollars to afford decent quality products instead of saving every penny possible.
@@420247paul next time you get an amazon box, look at the tape. it's a reinforced paper tape. that's what shippers use when they give af about their packages. and amazon does give af about their packages because they do most of their own shipping
I got fired for doing high quality work "too slowly" by a project manager who can't even do what I do much less correctly much less on time. I was meeting every deadline without flaws in my work no corners cut. This dude knew I was coming for his job
I can see her thinking, "we are incredibly understaffed and it's just me doing all the work I need all the employees I can get and you keep firing them."
@@onelessowl amen to that! IF you can produce numbers that are equivalent to 2 or 3+ people, then ABSOLUTELY you should be paid that!! But honestly, I've been literally laid off for being in the top 2% to 5% of the company in goals/production #'s, and because I was making a lot of commission (again bc of all the business I was bringing in to the company), I was making "too much" and was told they could hire 2 or 3 other people at a lower wage to offset my pay.... And I'm like you've got to be kidding me! I hope those 2 to 3 people could match my energy & production, but in that line of work, I highly doubt they got that in return, especially shipping that phone/desk job overseas to India. So I laughed and was like good luck with all that.... I trained a few of the people from India that they replaced me with... And not one of them could secure a single contract bc no one wanted to hardly talk to them.... But when I got on the line right behind them after they placed the people on hold, I closed with the client, and they were like how did you do that?! That was awesome. I didn't want to be mean & explain the obvious reason why, but it's truly the reason why.... So in the end, the company goes & hires 2 to 3 people from overseas to pay them way less than I was being paid, but also the job requires results for the company, so if they couldn't close like I could (again top 2 to 5% in the entire company every single month), then in the end, the company didn't realize how stupid they were being. They assumed a false notion, which was oh 2 to 3 overseas people should be able to secure the same or more contract numbers as this top performer & we can pay them less and save money.... Nah nah son, your assumption was faulty, and so not only did they lose me and many other top performers, but they lost their aces on the numbers we were bringing in, bc our "replacements" couldn't. I don't get some companies logic or should I say ILLOGIC! If someone has a skill and/or talent, and they can produce the numbers of 2 or 3 people, then that person should ABSOLUTELY be paid the equivalent of 2 or 3 people!
@@rcwright2305 The 2-3 people that they hire will be gone within 6 months and the hiring process is fairly costly to companies, so in the end they lose money. To hell with them.
My dad was the manager of a mechanic shop. All his employees thought very highly of him because he never asked any of them to do anything he wouldn't do. This even included cleaning the bathroom.
that sounds exactly like a Non-Commissioned Officer in the Army, because they will never have a junior soldier do something that they wouldn’t do first
I used to ask my employees to do this thing to the floor each week. One week i decided to do it myself. It was a disaster. The shiny stuff was thick and sticky and i made a huge mess. I asked the clerk if this is always this hard to do and she sighed and said 'yeah'. I never assigned that task again. I did it myself everytime from then on. I was so disappointed i hadn't attempted the task before assigning, and everytime i did the floors like that was a reminder to put my team first
I love how this showcases how the literal CEOs don't even know how to do the work they supposedly "manage" lmao 🤡 Yet they're getting paid 1000x more than their workers. Absolutely indefensible. (Cue the bootlickers trying to defend it tho lol, you're not gonna own that boot in your lifetime, buddy! 😂)
I say that undercover boss should be mandatory for every boss. They should spend one day a year working in each different type of position they employ. EACH YEAR. And only get paid what their workers do for that time.
@@JaseekaRawrI understand what you’re saying but you have to apply your principles to real life, not just spout them off like talking points. Capitalism sucks, yes. Owners are typically exploitative, yes. Higher ups make way more than those ‘in the field’, yes. But it’s absolutely ridiculous to expect someone to know how to do every job affiliated with their business. lol Things definitely need to change but what you’re saying is literally just a talking point and it does nothing here because the show is literally about showing business owners that they have no idea how their businesses are being run or who is working for them.
@@andwithtthat ?? You're making no sense 😅 What I said was self explanatory. I think you need to reread my comment. The "real life application" you're asking for I already gave in the form of "managers". That's the entire point of the comment. 😂 So I'm not sure what you're on about. 🤷🏼♀️ lmao way to gag on the boot & make no sense at the same time. 😅 You're never going to own that boot of ownership you're making excuses for. You're very useful for the owning class, bc you're selling out your fellow workers. The owners are not on your side. Wild to me that I have to spell that out to you, apparently. 😬 It's a big team & you ain't in it.
Exactly! These types of jobs start at 12-14 an hour in my area, with quotas requiring super human productivity. Then your benefits include a week of vacation you're never actually allowed to use, sick time policies that may as well be a middle finger emoji, and health insurance so terrible you're better off without. They'll tell you they give performance based raises, which is true, but you need to be at least at 110% so they can deny you for another reason. And you better come in with a smile or you'll be reprimanded for not being a team player. 'merica!
@@weirdal1enit's always "I noticed your hard life situation, here's money" but no thought about hundreds of other peoplrle on the same paygrade and their lives
Yup. Most lower and middle managers are jokes and in training while the company takes advantage of their salaried status. The job goes to their head though and they have absolutely no clue how to lead people and have very little of the soft skills required for proper management. They typically try to work through intimidation but that will usally backfire. Upper management tends to weed those people out, but low level employees are constantly being tortured by Lowe management
@@thestoebzManagers suck and they have to prove they don't suck every single day, because management is famously and statistically defunct in nearly every industry.
The manager who fired him needs to be fired. You don’t fire new employees because they can’t instantly match the productivity of someone who’s been there 20 years. If they’re struggling, you need to provide training and support
A lot of factories do not care they want production workers not trainees. If you can't meet quota they would rather fire until they find someone who will work harder. Some factories will slow down belts while your learning, but will force to speed you up asap or put you with a worker that has to pick up your slack for a trial period. Which is what I assume happened here.
@@QwerkyFangirl so no actual training just straight to the line no questions asked? Sounds like a bad business model tbh. There should be ways to train regardless of process without affecting production. But if it costs too much for a billion dollar company maybe that company has become so incompetent it can't manage its own monetary resources.
@@buxadonoff Again, you are taping a box. If i have to train you to tape a box...I guess we're just built differently. You're too focused on the speed portion when you completely neglect his careful nature of placing a label. The man was trying to create art instead of doing a job.
you’re either fast and efficient or you’re not, it doesn’t take a month to figure that out. i’ve never taped boxes before but 20 minutes in id definitely have a flow going. it’s just factory work.
That boss is incompetent. Not the guy packing the boxes undercover, the absolute goon who's firing people on the first day because he wasn't packing them "fast enough". Even if it was a couple days. That woman he was working with looked stressed AF, and he's just going around firing people because they aren't as fast as everyone else. Like, she looks like she could use all the help she could get, fast or not. Take a look around, future and current managers/bosses, this is the attitude that is making finding employees so difficult right now, and you have no one to blame but yourselves.
She has to teach the new guy how to do the job. He’s clumsy, so she’s falling behind while showing him. I’m sure she wants a good coworker, but she knows he isn’t it
@@averycheesypotato I'm not sure what your counter point was to the first guy. Did you have one? Or just baseless speculation to the specific scenario while being ignorant of present employment trends that were stated?
Obviously the boss does not understand that new employees need time to acclimate to speed. He needs to think outside the box. She is an excellent trainer and should be rewarded for her understanding of the process.
If he worked in reality like that, then even the learning curve argument wouldn't help him. If you can't handle a simple task like that, then better get back to the keyboard. Useless bodycount on the production line. The guy that fired him, saw that in a heartbeat. Don't hate on him. He did the guy a favor.
The best boss I ever had, had worked all thr jobs below her and worked her way to the top. She wasn't some college graduate hired in at a high position. She KNEW everyone's job...could actually relate to everyone...and didn't have unreasonable expectations. She lived the line "been there, done that". I miss you Therese N!!
I work for frito lay now and the biggest difference I see here is that that truly do for the most part, only promote from within. My top level manager has 20 years of experience, has done every job there is below his current role and a few above, and can answer any question or provide advice on any situation OVER THE PHONE like he's standing right next to me. It's great
This is me! Worked all the way from a stocker to currently working directly under the CEO of my company. It was a long, tough road, but I wouldn’t change that experience for the world.
@vincentebuie7721 did you watch the video and see the requirements? The "goal" was 90 boxes an hour -- taped, packed, and labeled. Let's see you tape, pack, and label 90 various sized boxes on day 1 of work with less than 20 minutes of training. We'll watch and laugh at you both failing and crying that it's too hard
This is why business will always be POS in my book. Never be loyal or friendly to a corporation that only sees you as a cog in their machine. Remember this very well kids.
I love when the bosses get fired. Work conditions, expectations & leniency are horrible in so many places and the employees are just numbers. Wake up call.
I’m a expert level Toyota tech, my “engineer” ex boss wouldn’t touch dirt let alone be able to diag and r/r a thing. No he could never do my job. I don’t necessarily think I could walk in first day and do his either. All employees need training.
They don't need to get fired. They fire themselves when the business inevitably fails because they keep over hiring people who aren't needed because they are too cowardly to fire the "under performers" (They're fine at the job but the boss is just super spoiled and believes they deserve better because it's everyone else's fault but their own). So instead they will hire 4+ extra people to make the "peasants" fight over their minimum wage position as if it were worth fighting over in the first place. This way surely the "underperformers" will quit on their own and I won't have to go through the confrontation of firing someone I just don't like but pretending that there's a professional reason behind it. So then they end up paying wages for multiple people who are basically just getting paid to look pretty and the business just goes bankrupt if higher management doesn't intervene and "let go of staff" that they themselves hired when the positions were filled anyway. All to avoid confrontation because they really are that pathetic. I swear to God man you are creating some money hungry power hungry cold hearted men the way you are treating young employees.
Most warehousing and shipping jobs you have 30 days to get to speed if you can't hack it you're fired it's nothing personal it's just like not making a team when you were in school it stings a little bit to know you're not good enough but a healthy person should be able to move on and find something else
@robertstone9988 yea a healthy person will but they're better off in the long run not being treated like crap with crazy deadlines and the more you do, the more is expected of you. These warehouse jobs are cancer
@@MeMe-ef5fw I agree they're not for everybody but neither is playing in the NBA that doesn't mean you're a bad person cuz you can't cut it just means you're meant for something else. You're not entitled to a job just because you need it real bad you have to be able to perform the duties that that job requires you can't be a fireman if you don't like going into burning buildings enchant work in a warehouse if you can't keep up. You can't be mad at the warehouse that you didn't make the cut no more than you can be upset that you didn't make the cut to make the Denver Nuggets
@robertstone9988 I agree completely with you except, they treat people like slave labor. You don't have to work there. That's right but they don't have to run sweat shops either
All bosses need to actually work the jobs of their employees. This is why I respect people who work from the ground up so much. They know what it takes to run a company and appreciate all the cogs in the wheel.
Hope he gave her a big raise...and hope he had a good talk with the person that fired him about giving a person a lil bit of time to learn the job skill..
The woman he was working with should be a trainer and the guy who fired him should go do the job. I've had people who just needed a little time and encouragement. A little patience. Sometimes take a different tact when training them and they turned out to be superstars. They also turn out to be loyal, reliable and dependable when you encourage them and train them ... gently.
Exactly this, I used to train people to drive PIT machines aka forklifts at a warehouse and some of the hardest people to teach with a little patience went from fear of the machine, to knowing it like the back of their hand, another muscle in their body. People often have no patience and it can affect others.
Taking 5 mins to show him why his tape machine is binding woulda saved hours lost. She clearly either wanted him to or was told to let him fail cause she should have been able to teach him right quick unless hes that incompetent
People learn in different ways. Either tactile (hands on doing) audio, visual. Most are a combo of the 3. Never expect all people to learn the same way!
You, my sir, or Miss or ma’am, or a true supervisor, you are a true trainer, you are the most valuable commodity on the floor, wherever you are! The woman needs to be the supervisor,,, the supervisor needs to be thrown in a rubbish bin somewhere. The young man should have a experienced person working with him who happens to be on their day off, so they can be on a one on one. And the complete job training needs to be revised. The so-called supervisor who terminated the young man, needs a do not rehire, under any circumstance put next to his discharge papers. And the young woman needs to be moved to supervisor,,, since there is an immediate opening position available. In the decision making, and being that this was filmed.,, the young man should be apologized to on behalf of all management.
He's the manager. He is in CHARGE of the system. So if there is a problem with the system, who do YOU blame? The system itself? Or the people who CREATED the system and profit off of exploiting their employees? You seem to have a lot of empathy for people who have NO empathy for others...
I remember working at package place, they wanted me for machine opp, but moved me to help then a material handler never any proper training and then they let me go. A blessing in disguise
In the early days of Amazon, Jeff Bezos was known to have personally packed orders himself. In fact, in the company's early days, Bezos and a small team of employees would often pack and ship orders themselves, sometimes staying up all night to get them out on time. This hands-on approach was part of the company's culture that prioritised customer service by getting orders out fast.
A lot of people are missing the point. I guarantee you he heard a lot of complaints about this particular manager and decided test them for himself. He is clearly being intentionally slow and clumbsy to see how the manager and other workers react. I bet he noticed how the other workers seemed to care and try to help with pointers but they didn't have time to really make themselves heard. Then the manager shows up and straight up fires him on his first day because hes a bit slow at picking things up. That right there told him all he needed to know about why the turnover rate for his company was so high (im just assuming it was) and he now can replace this shitty manager with a better one. Its amazing what a difference it makes to have a good manager vs a bad one.
Definitely, I've had some great bosses over the years. A good manager recognises skills and gives encouragement. Gives reprimand when needed, but respectfully, then moves on. Also a great boss 'mucks in' when things get hectic.
@@stevedoubleu99B best manager I ever had told me you can’t buy effort. If someone is going to try to do a good job and they’re determined, you’d have to be an idiot to fire them. That person will get good at it, and likely much quicker than most. Someone could start a job and already know everything about it, but if they don’t give a shit and it’s obvious then throw em to the curb when they inevitably give you that opportunity
To be fair that manager is probably being pressured to keep production to a maximum. But to fire someone after 2 hours without even explaining the tape gun or giving an alternative. This is just poor training. For starters the woman cannot train this guy if she is in fear for her job due to quotas. I know a warehouse one of my family members worked at and they hire some absolute clusterfux. They are getting $20+ per hour and aren't under 1/3 of the pressure of this packing line.
The manager could be powerless aswell. He mentioned his "numbers" were not good enough, likely they track how many boxes you do and have a minimum boxes per hour to continue working. Though most places that i workes like that wouls give you no minumum while you were in training.
I worked for FedEx for a total of one month. They were so sweet, they would do evaluations not because they wanted you to be a certain speed at a certain point, but because they strictly wanted to see improvement in their new hires. I ended up quitting because I was only getting paid enough for gas to get there and back (I lived a half hour away), and my body couldn't handle the physical stress. The managers and co workers were all amazing, if you are active, 10/10 go to fedex.
She probably deals with this on a weekly basis and is that fast because she has to be since they keep firing people for unrealistic expectations. Poor women, I hope when he revealed himself he gave her a fat promotion, she was kind and patient while he struggled. Thats what a supervisor should be.
Agreed I've had managers like that guy before... and as someone with ASD (supposedly) I'm a bit slower to learn than most people are... managers really need to learn patience...it's no wonder all these jobs are shutting down
Henry Ford made it a point to have all of his executives work EVERY job in the company so they could relate to their workers. Here is a prime example of why CEOs should!
@@WestenCombs ford was weird dude a racist and a fascist no doubt but he also made sure to pay his workers well enough that they could actually afford the products they were making.
@@braidans4767 Every classical fascist strives for "class collaboration", therefor it would be outright nonsensical for a classical fascist to abuse his workers (as this would inevitable lead to "class warfare"). However, Henry Ford never subscribed to classical fascism, he only sympathized with some of its principles.
my boss taught me EVERYTHING i know about my job, he was lenient but got onto you if you were slacking, he made sure to tell you how to improve but if he had to he would yell, and i thank him for teaching me how to work rather than doing this
This is why I don’t give 100% at any job anymore. They always want to hold me back. I do excellent service, hit my numbers and always complete the task I’m given.
I quit going above and beyond when both I and the worst employee on our team both got promoted. And the supervisor couldn't understand that their actions told me that I'm no better than the other person. Now I'm gone, but they are still there struggling with the same issues they had before promotion.
Unfortunately a lot of companies all over America treat people like this, In my experience as a manager who's done a lot of training people. It can take weeks to really figure out if someone's gonna be an asset or not, But taking that time to assess people properly can really be a difference maker in the long term if you're willing to put the time in. Most companies are not willing to put the time in.
Damn, at amazon, they give you a month or so to pick up the rate, even then they give you write ups 😂. I literally was worse than this guy the first day but they kept me
As a manager, I always give new employees time to find their own rhythm, for all you managers and CEO out there, a few words of encouragement to your employees can go a very long way, make them feel like they matter to the company, not just another number. Side note: that lady is incredible, if you aren't going to promote her, she deserves a huge raise and PTO
My lil brother works at Walmart and they screw him over real bad because he is the only one doing two departments. He took off Sunday from being sick and he told me they had to get 4 people over there to do what he normally does every day by himself
True. Taking a human being and working them like robots requires training and proper compensation. Repetitive motions like that day after day can really be unhealthy for the person doing it. That manager needs retrained on how to train others Those folks could also use some more diverse responsibilities. Your brain turns off after doing that kind of stuff for a while which you dont want. 👍
They made his job difficult, I’m sure they’ll be pissed if it happened to them on their first week or so. Well the undercover boss doesn’t need to know that side of work cos it’s fun to socialise with people multitasking and it’s easy work done by machines
This is proof that the employers themselves aren't able to perform as productively as they demand from their employees. Yet, they still demand unattainable levels of productivity...
I worked for exactly two days in this business and couldn't handle the pressure. I also struggled immensely with that tape gun and everyone looked at me like I was a huge inconvience on my first day. On my second day, my colleagues were pissed because "I _still_ couldn't properly use that thing after working for eight hours yesterday". I didn't even have a proper supervisor. I was just dumped there with no guidance. Just had to figure it all out on my own. I realized I didn't belong there and quit on the spot. It's true what they say: fun colleagues may be even more important than the actual work.
Because there is no such thing as training. The business can't "justify" a full-time trainer, mostly because C-suites don't know operations or the floor supervisors don't care to make a business case for it. The work is seen as "trivial" so how much training can you really need. This poor lady could train properly, but then her numbers go down and she gets fired. She isn't get paid to train. This is what you get when you build a "competitive" culture among employees. And no one will ever be able to figure out why their turn-over is so high.
And even given his inability to do it within the limited time to prove himself. She still had the good grace to frown and feel sad for him getting fired, she is a compassionate person that cares about her job and the others that work there. We lack enough of those people and have an over abundance of leaners in this world.
@@cosmicnova2355 he's talking about the guy who got "fired" he owns the entire company. He's responsible for the way that manager acts, as he's responsible for the entire company.
I think the craziest part of this is how often they get fired for underperformance. I’ve literally never seen a person be fired for it in real life. And I’ve worked in some pretty unforgiving jobs.
@@mayorb3366 100% true the workers underthem are the "Team" that is the real success but diffrent pay because you have to punt the idea straight up their ass and explain every simple part untill they get it or they just decide no and save $1 to spend $1000 later those are my favorites.
The "Peter Principle" states people are promoted until they reach a position where they are no longer competent. The "Dilbert Principle" states they are promoted because of their incompetence.
Why? They're his own company's rules. He can't even cut his own mustard so to speak, as it is in many cases. The ruling classes don't have what it takes to do what they expect of those they exploit, yet they have all the control and power. Backwards world we live in.
Can’t 🤣😂 he needs to know managers would fire those who aren’t needed. (However that’s assuming this is over 4 hours into the job not 4 mins a short clip can leave out details like that)
The tape has a tensioner on the side, my job taught me how to loosen it as soon as they saw me struggling with a new roll of tape that was very stiff coming out and I was struggling like he was. Notice her tape is easy. She is gate keeping and she probably knows it.
@IamI3rian Running a company is much different than operating the tools of that company. I work construction, and a large number of owners are oblivious to the work that we do on a daily basis.
They say if you measure a fish's intelligence by how well he could climb a tree you'll always see him as stupid. Makes you think of how many potential CEOs get prevented from rising up to the top because they get fired for bullshit.
American companies: We won’t invest even a little bit of time in training and nurturing you to be a good employee and the moment you’re not up to par you’re fired. Well done!
Why? He’s just doing what he’s supposed to. It’s not his money paying employees so he doesn’t care about productivity beyond a lack of productivity being blamed on leadership. He’s doing exactly what those above him (like the ceo) want him to do
Exactly!!! It’s like people forget that the “reality” in reality tv is just gaslighting. They tend to get just as mad as wrestling fans when you point out it’s fake too 😂
@@AyeYoTay84There is a film crew literally five feet away from him. how anyone thinks this is real is amazing. Like in boxing when a punch with a glove on can knock a guy out cold, but in wwe a person can be punched 20 times in the face bare knuckle and come back and win the match.
@@koobs4549 Wrestling is a performance. Real wrestling is pretty boring and hard to understand how anyone can get points. Movies are fake. Celebrities are fake. Streamers are fake. TH-camrs are fake. I'm sure if I figured out what kind of things you like to watch are and call them fake, you'd get triggered too. I'mma say football and basketball are fake too. UFC is fake. Just to see how it triggers people. Like you.
@@enrlichhartman If he outsources the money even better. Why risk your own capital when you can get investors. It's still him taking the risk. Go tell your Socialist teachers they're wrong.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing unskilled, unintelligent people that they deserve the same piece of the pie as the people who are actually making decisions and managing all of their incompetent underlings.
@Scott Dove a lot of places don't allow time for that, l worked in a sweat shop here in Ireland making suits for Magee and they would shout at you throw jackets about and call you a "stupid b×tch"...amazing what was allowed, no union, luckily l was only there 4 years to get myself through college. Worst time of my life. They eventually took their factory to another country with even less labour laws l guess.
and then customers stop giving you business cause your products quality sucks and that business has to fire more workers and eventually close down to more competent competition who held high standards
@@luc410 if only that worked, except the businesses own so many other businesses, you have to play Detective and meticulously cut each and wvery piece of them out of your life, like the heads off a Hydra.
Check out the full clip here: th-cam.com/video/33hlJCbtW-Q/w-d-xo.html
Not really a full clip I wanted more past the point of the end of this current clip. I did not want a prequel dog 💀
This clip just shows a bit of before.... That is boring. We want the after
It still doesn't show an out come.
Let's see
Watched the same thing but longer wth
She just found out why she gets overlooked for promotions.
"Too valuable to production"
and and on the other hand there are those that rise to the height of their incompetence when they're moved up the ladder
Someone once told me, "f*ck up, move up". There's a fine line
Spot on. Too much work to replace her productivity.
So true they gold you back won't pay you more but can't afford to even move you
True story
If you ever get fired before you get trained, just be happy you aren’t working for such backwards people anymore.
You need to be at a certain starting point for training to be worth it. If you’re so clumsy you can’t drag tape across a cardboard box it’s not worth it, they can find others who aren’t
@@swegatron2859 You're defending dumb@ss business practices lmao
@@swegatron2859 Ahhh, someone who understands how business works.
@@swegatron2859 He obviously could and did do it tho? Someone just needed to tell him to drag the tape quickly so it doesn't get stuck. This boss is a fool
This is staged, that manager definitely knows.
If you get fired for not making numbers or being perfect on your FIRST DAY, every single coworker should run for the hills.
The sad part is that they probably can't,need to make ends meat ,and a lot of those workers live paycheck to paycheck.
@@bang1054This is why Republicans are so deadset on never allowing any kind of social programs to flourish. They would never want to get rid of the hammer that would hit down all those moles. If healthcare, for instance, is tied to a job, then workers can't afford to look around or take some weeks unemployed while looking for new work.
if you’re that pitifully terrible at taping boxes it would be way easier to simply find someone who already has this fairly basic skill. no point in waiting a week for this guy to learn how to do it and probably still be bad
The context missing here is he’s supposedly filling a seasonal position. They don’t have time to wait for temp employees to improve cuz they need production right now
@@georget4141 Guy, it's taping boxes. He's not assembling or servicing sensitive electronics. Around two weeks of training is necessary and _typical_ in almost all jobs, let along blue-collar. If they can't afford two weeks of training, let alone for something as simple as _taping boxes,_ the company isn't worth working for.
It's a ship getting ready to sink.
The faster you do your job, the more work they give you.
And less pay
@@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes Less pay? Idk about that.
@@ub-4630 you should get a job sometime.
@@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes Why be a dick?
@@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotesyeah, we have one and it's false
She's packing like her lives depends on it, and her manager just showed that she was right.
Makes America great
@@romulusnrYou ever watch Chinese people make ... anything?
sad state
@@DeliberateContrarian Love that your mind goes straight to China. If your working conditions are only above the sweatshop nation and no one else, it says a lot.
@Deliberate Contrarian so just as long as we're not as bad and depressing as China we're ok?
You shouldn't terminate someone's employment on the shop floor in front of coworkers. That is a shitty thing to do. So disrespectful.
It could get dangerous too. People get postal pretty easy.
They do that in warehouses all the time then walk you out of the building like you are walking the mile, oh wait you are walking the mile!
@@poa2.0surface77 no, if that was Wal-Mart, the manager would be terminated immediately for public humiliation once HR finds out about it. It's part of their management training.
@@suzycatipiller821 manager should be fired for public humiliation. You don't fire people in front of other employees as it's disrespectful, unprofessional, and classified as harassment. That's why managers have offices, call em over discreetly and give the employee basic privacy.
@@poa2.0surface77 Y'all get triggered when your local McDonalds get understaffed for shit like this 💀
It's so nice that a company would allow a camera crew to record their high turnover rate on the production floor.
That’s why they call it TV kids
I thought my work was bad at maniging things. But now i feel like its amazing. Ive never seen so many comments agree on one thing.
@@plastictouch6796 wow isn't Amazon a really friendly company. I just love living in a society where getting a job means throwing up our life into it and effectively being slaves.
The camera is following the boss, no one in that warehouse has a choice.
@@plastictouch6796No shit Sherlock. Ofc the company has your SSN.
I worked on an assembly line before, and one day, I got switched to a different department because the manager of the previous department I worked at wanted to have this girl be closer to him. Anyways, I worked on this line for one day, like thrown into the deep end. It was assembling smoke detectors, and because I couldn't keep up, there was a backlog of alarms on my table. I wasn't aware that they can get scraped and damaged left on the table so all my alarms were deemed faulty. I remeber the manager coming over and looking at everything and I knew I was fucked. When I got home, I got a text message saying they didn't need me anymore. I was always so embarrassed about it, but now that I'm older, I realize wtf did they expect? Why did they put an inexperienced person on that line?
They didn't even fire you in person? Be glad you didn't work at that shithole a day longer than you did! 💀
Your question: "Why did they put an inexperienced person on that line?"
A: So some lowlife could have a shot at a booty call.
@@TheCelticTiger32 Sorry man, you deserve better. On to bigger and better!
On the bright side, maybe you dodged a bullet. In the long term it's better that you got away from that toxic environment and an incompetent boss. Hope you found something better.
@@TheCelticTiger32 You still benefitted from that situation though, because now you are armed with knowledge/experience and are far more likely to stick up for yourself next time. If things had gone well, you may not have learned that, and even if you did, might not have taken it as seriously. Live and learn
Boss acted like the dude has been slacking for the past 2 months by the way he fired him.
The dude couldn’t figure out a tape roller. The speed probably would have been ignored for a week or two if he wasn’t utterly incompetent at such a simple action.
If the CEO wasnt on TV he would likely do a once a year walk through of a factory and fire people like that while he continues to do way less work.
@@mattburkett9419 Have you used a rape roller? tape gun. Whatever the fuck you want to call it. Like someone else pointed out, you can get ones that are extremely smooth and then get one that doesn't move at all. Used them before. Some are easy. Some just have too much tension and don't work. My guess is he had one that didn't work all that well. You could see it was putting too much tension on the tape by how the end of the box with tape on it was starting crush a little. Even something as simple as a tape roller requires practice in order to become fast and efficient at using. You'd be the type of guy to fire someone because you haven't give them more than 5 minutes to practice and get accustomed to the equipment that they're using.
What's funny about this is the guy that fired him, guarantee he wouldn't be able to hit the target numbers in his first day either. The only time you get rid of someone that's slow, is when they've been adequately trained, had plenty of practice over the past week and still suck at doing a simple task. But you first have to actually let them get used to doing that thing.
@@jonnywilson9117woah woah woah..... I have never used a rape roller in my life .... what's wrong with you lol.
@@jonnywilson9117 I'm sorry, a fucking what??
That lady needs to be promoted to trainer and given the time to properly train new people
Mentality like this is why you don't run a company.
@@justincider8892 how do you know he doesnt? Technically i own a small part of a large company and its all those people working for me adding value and i didnt do anything except hold shares and put my oven pizza in at 425. One time I started a business and I learned more than I ever thought I would but it failed.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss I’d guess they mean because promoting someone who’s that good at a job doesn’t happen for a reason. I had to threaten to quit in order to get a different job where I am because I was easily doing the job of 3 people
Those tape guns are the easiest thing to use imaginable. More over dramatised television, making the boss exaggerate the difficulty of the job to force the message "Wow I didn't realise how difficult my employees had it taping up boxes, I had it easy all this time. I'm going to promote one of them." Big reveal, he's the out of touch boss who wants to integrate himself more and work as a team. Yada yada horse shit.
She should have her supervisor's job because she leads by example and the one who let his undercover boss go, should be let go.
People don't quit bad companies, they quit bad managers.
Oh please 🙄
@@Alejandro_C62 it’s not “Oh please 🙄” it’s actual truth…. I worked at plenty of jobs with “bad” companies and the management made it worth my while to stay. And I’ve worked for a couple of other “bad” companies with management being complete incompetent and favoritism was running rampant. Makes you, as a hard worker, not wanna work at that establishment being ran by an incomplete management.
While bad managers can make a good company bad, a good manager cannot make a bad company good 🤷 you need good company and management and today that's apparently asking for too much
Or... or... they don't quit at all, but get fired because they can't hack it.
Not always. Sh#t rolls down hill. Corporations are evil $ grubbers.
I'm a manager for UPS & I can assure you that the tape used by these companies does not hold up. Your boxes get torn apart & merchandise often misplaced because companies like this put the minimal amount of effort in making sure their products are secured. You sacrifice quality for speed. There's no reason to fire someone who isn't fast enough when you, yourself, don't do quality work. Those tape guns are the worst to use as they get stuck rather easily. Plus the tape they're using couldn't stick to glue but sure, blame the new hire lol
well the drivers should give a shit
@@420247paul It's not the driver's fault, usually. When those packages come through our system, they get mixed in with other packages of different weights & sizes. If a jam should occur, which does happen, packages tend to pile up. There are multiple factors that play into how a package gets damaged & piss poor quality tape is surely one of them. Companies should spend the extra couple dollars to afford decent quality products instead of saving every penny possible.
@@420247paul next time you get an amazon box, look at the tape. it's a reinforced paper tape. that's what shippers use when they give af about their packages. and amazon does give af about their packages because they do most of their own shipping
I got fired for doing high quality work "too slowly" by a project manager who can't even do what I do much less correctly much less on time. I was meeting every deadline without flaws in my work no corners cut. This dude knew I was coming for his job
package should be cross- wrapped in plastic foil, and then cross- wrapped with duct tape.
I can see her thinking, "we are incredibly understaffed and it's just me doing all the work I need all the employees I can get and you keep firing them."
Yep, someone calls in and you got twice the workload. You need to get paid your wages *PLUS* your co-worker's wages that day.
@@onelessowl amen to that! IF you can produce numbers that are equivalent to 2 or 3+ people, then ABSOLUTELY you should be paid that!! But honestly, I've been literally laid off for being in the top 2% to 5% of the company in goals/production #'s, and because I was making a lot of commission (again bc of all the business I was bringing in to the company), I was making "too much" and was told they could hire 2 or 3 other people at a lower wage to offset my pay.... And I'm like you've got to be kidding me! I hope those 2 to 3 people could match my energy & production, but in that line of work, I highly doubt they got that in return, especially shipping that phone/desk job overseas to India. So I laughed and was like good luck with all that.... I trained a few of the people from India that they replaced me with... And not one of them could secure a single contract bc no one wanted to hardly talk to them.... But when I got on the line right behind them after they placed the people on hold, I closed with the client, and they were like how did you do that?! That was awesome. I didn't want to be mean & explain the obvious reason why, but it's truly the reason why.... So in the end, the company goes & hires 2 to 3 people from overseas to pay them way less than I was being paid, but also the job requires results for the company, so if they couldn't close like I could (again top 2 to 5% in the entire company every single month), then in the end, the company didn't realize how stupid they were being. They assumed a false notion, which was oh 2 to 3 overseas people should be able to secure the same or more contract numbers as this top performer & we can pay them less and save money.... Nah nah son, your assumption was faulty, and so not only did they lose me and many other top performers, but they lost their aces on the numbers we were bringing in, bc our "replacements" couldn't. I don't get some companies logic or should I say ILLOGIC! If someone has a skill and/or talent, and they can produce the numbers of 2 or 3 people, then that person should ABSOLUTELY be paid the equivalent of 2 or 3 people!
@@rcwright2305 The 2-3 people that they hire will be gone within 6 months and the hiring process is fairly costly to companies, so in the end they lose money. To hell with them.
@@rcwright2305 The top bosses speculate too much. I think they are afraid and want to keep as much as possible (in general).
Exactly. Wtf, so the guy isn’t great on his first day. Train him. Give him time to learn.
Those tape rollers are fucking demons I swear.
genuinely, sometimes you get the smoothest pull, other times it just refuses to move.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
I found it was mostly how you held the angle as you pulled, it became muscle memory after a while.
A solid yank at a near 90° angle works most if not all the time
You can adjust the tightness on the little knob on the part where you put the tape. I usually unscrew mine so it's loose to make for easier taping.
My dad was the manager of a mechanic shop. All his employees thought very highly of him because he never asked any of them to do anything he wouldn't do. This even included cleaning the bathroom.
Now that's leadership!
that sounds exactly like a Non-Commissioned Officer in the Army, because they will never have a junior soldier do something that they wouldn’t do first
That was my motto towards my children.
I used to ask my employees to do this thing to the floor each week. One week i decided to do it myself. It was a disaster. The shiny stuff was thick and sticky and i made a huge mess. I asked the clerk if this is always this hard to do and she sighed and said 'yeah'. I never assigned that task again. I did it myself everytime from then on. I was so disappointed i hadn't attempted the task before assigning, and everytime i did the floors like that was a reminder to put my team first
Then who cleaned the bathrooms?
Like that's noble and all. but there's balance
Welcome to your company, dude. Where employees get treated like dirt.
I love how this showcases how the literal CEOs don't even know how to do the work they supposedly "manage" lmao 🤡 Yet they're getting paid 1000x more than their workers. Absolutely indefensible. (Cue the bootlickers trying to defend it tho lol, you're not gonna own that boot in your lifetime, buddy! 😂)
I say that undercover boss should be mandatory for every boss. They should spend one day a year working in each different type of position they employ. EACH YEAR. And only get paid what their workers do for that time.
@@JaseekaRawrI understand what you’re saying but you have to apply your principles to real life, not just spout them off like talking points. Capitalism sucks, yes. Owners are typically exploitative, yes. Higher ups make way more than those ‘in the field’, yes. But it’s absolutely ridiculous to expect someone to know how to do every job affiliated with their business. lol
Things definitely need to change but what you’re saying is literally just a talking point and it does nothing here because the show is literally about showing business owners that they have no idea how their businesses are being run or who is working for them.
@@JaseekaRawr ok strawwoman
@@andwithtthat ?? You're making no sense 😅 What I said was self explanatory. I think you need to reread my comment. The "real life application" you're asking for I already gave in the form of "managers". That's the entire point of the comment. 😂 So I'm not sure what you're on about. 🤷🏼♀️
lmao way to gag on the boot & make no sense at the same time. 😅 You're never going to own that boot of ownership you're making excuses for. You're very useful for the owning class, bc you're selling out your fellow workers. The owners are not on your side. Wild to me that I have to spell that out to you, apparently. 😬
It's a big team & you ain't in it.
Bosses being showed the insanity they expect their employees to contend with for barely livable wages.
Exactly! These types of jobs start at 12-14 an hour in my area, with quotas requiring super human productivity. Then your benefits include a week of vacation you're never actually allowed to use, sick time policies that may as well be a middle finger emoji, and health insurance so terrible you're better off without. They'll tell you they give performance based raises, which is true, but you need to be at least at 110% so they can deny you for another reason. And you better come in with a smile or you'll be reprimanded for not being a team player. 'merica!
Exactly
Don’t worry your job will be replace by machines soon
The insanity? It’s fucking tape and cardboard. There is no trade in this. This is by definition a minimum wage job.
@@rudysull3620 You seem like a good fit then.
“Deep breath” is exactly what goes through that woman’s head everytime her boss is giving out promotions and she gets passed over
Shut up
@@Navybyrdeno she's not it's the guy
Perfectly said 👌
tf you even talking about lol
@@ernop350 hey OP, can you translate in low IQ for this fella?
I’d be willing to bet he still considers her labor “unskilled” and uses it as a justification to pay her next to nothing
Maybe this helped a little?
@earthbutterfly the people on this show rarely ever fix the problems they encounter for their employees, beyond maybe a one-time donation
She probably makes $20+ an hour. Hardly next to nothing
@@weirdal1enit's always "I noticed your hard life situation, here's money" but no thought about hundreds of other peoplrle on the same paygrade and their lives
@@thestoebzthere's no way she makes $20/hr, no company is paying a production employee in a warehouse $20/hr
I feel like she had empathy for him. She needs to be a manager. Most managers I’ve had lack empathy and are just worried about themselves.
Yup. Most lower and middle managers are jokes and in training while the company takes advantage of their salaried status. The job goes to their head though and they have absolutely no clue how to lead people and have very little of the soft skills required for proper management. They typically try to work through intimidation but that will usally backfire. Upper management tends to weed those people out, but low level employees are constantly being tortured by Lowe management
Not true. Maybe your managers, but I’ve had some amazing managers.
That was so sad the way he was fired. I know he was acting but he made me feel deep empathy for him
@@thestoebzManagers suck and they have to prove they don't suck every single day, because management is famously and statistically defunct in nearly every industry.
Managing skills =/= packaging skills. People think managers job is just supervise others work and thats why they never get better jobs.
The manager who fired him needs to be fired. You don’t fire new employees because they can’t instantly match the productivity of someone who’s been there 20 years. If they’re struggling, you need to provide training and support
A lot of factories do not care they want production workers not trainees. If you can't meet quota they would rather fire until they find someone who will work harder. Some factories will slow down belts while your learning, but will force to speed you up asap or put you with a worker that has to pick up your slack for a trial period. Which is what I assume happened here.
@@QwerkyFangirl so no actual training just straight to the line no questions asked?
Sounds like a bad business model tbh.
There should be ways to train regardless of process without affecting production. But if it costs too much for a billion dollar company maybe that company has become so incompetent it can't manage its own monetary resources.
It's taping a box...this is why most these jobs are just daycare centers. People like you need people to have training to TAPE A BOX. A. BOX.
@Yoshi -TheOreo everyone can tape a box, but speed like that, is not something you just learn from day one.
@@buxadonoff Again, you are taping a box. If i have to train you to tape a box...I guess we're just built differently.
You're too focused on the speed portion when you completely neglect his careful nature of placing a label. The man was trying to create art instead of doing a job.
How you gonna fire someone on their first day for not being fast enough? Like wtf lol
Shitty low-educated managers with power issues? The logistics world is full of them.
Gotta weed out the slackers lol
That's the life in a warehouse man.
@@itsGrzliSo he should do a fast, shitty job?
you’re either fast and efficient or you’re not, it doesn’t take a month to figure that out. i’ve never taped boxes before but 20 minutes in id definitely have a flow going. it’s just factory work.
Man that lady was genuinely trying to help him and looked like she felt bad that he got fired on the first day
NOT!
A boss going undercover reveals 2 things: 1 how the employees are treated
2 the reality of the expectations
That boss is incompetent. Not the guy packing the boxes undercover, the absolute goon who's firing people on the first day because he wasn't packing them "fast enough". Even if it was a couple days. That woman he was working with looked stressed AF, and he's just going around firing people because they aren't as fast as everyone else. Like, she looks like she could use all the help she could get, fast or not.
Take a look around, future and current managers/bosses, this is the attitude that is making finding employees so difficult right now, and you have no one to blame but yourselves.
She has to teach the new guy how to do the job. He’s clumsy, so she’s falling behind while showing him.
I’m sure she wants a good coworker, but she knows he isn’t it
@@averycheesypotato I'm not sure what your counter point was to the first guy. Did you have one? Or just baseless speculation to the specific scenario while being ignorant of present employment trends that were stated?
@@FreeAllenWrench I’m just saying I’ve been in her shoes. Some people just aren’t cut out for certain positions
@@averycheesypotato Sure, but it's the first day. She needs to be given time to train because he needs the training.
@@HopUpOutDaBed never been fired or fired anyone, obviously. He said "we no longer need your services". Full stop. That's called firing someone.
Obviously the boss does not understand that new employees need time to acclimate to speed. He needs to think outside the box. She is an excellent trainer and should be rewarded for her understanding of the process.
@@aussierednecksinger28 Using those packing tape dispensers is just a knack you get by using it enough. There's no real method
In this case “the box” was all that they were thinking about 😂
He doesn't need to think outside the box. What he needs to do is putting tape on the box!
It's pretty obvious to me that he was fired for dramatic effect because the producers of Undercover Boss told him to.
If he worked in reality like that, then even the learning curve argument wouldn't help him. If you can't handle a simple task like that, then better get back to the keyboard. Useless bodycount on the production line. The guy that fired him, saw that in a heartbeat. Don't hate on him. He did the guy a favor.
Let me guess how this one goes, he says he learned something and personally helps out two workers, gets his PR, and goes back to not giving a shit.
my last manager who didnt regularize me a few months ago was like that too. i cant believe it's such a common toxic thing.
The best boss I ever had, had worked all thr jobs below her and worked her way to the top. She wasn't some college graduate hired in at a high position. She KNEW everyone's job...could actually relate to everyone...and didn't have unreasonable expectations. She lived the line "been there, done that". I miss you Therese N!!
That’s good, but occasionally people who’ve done everybody else’s job expect you to live and breath that company sh!t like they obviously have, lol.
I work for frito lay now and the biggest difference I see here is that that truly do for the most part, only promote from within. My top level manager has 20 years of experience, has done every job there is below his current role and a few above, and can answer any question or provide advice on any situation OVER THE PHONE like he's standing right next to me.
It's great
This is me! Worked all the way from a stocker to currently working directly under the CEO of my company. It was a long, tough road, but I wouldn’t change that experience for the world.
The fact that the "training" was less than 30 minutes says they don't value people
You get more training in fast food than they gave him
Doesn't take a genius to learn how to tape up a box. If you can't even do that, what the fuck can you do ?
@vincentebuie7721 did you watch the video and see the requirements?
The "goal" was 90 boxes an hour -- taped, packed, and labeled.
Let's see you tape, pack, and label 90 various sized boxes on day 1 of work with less than 20 minutes of training. We'll watch and laugh at you both failing and crying that it's too hard
@@vincente515 apparently own a large company and not have to do any physical labor
@@Boarderguy96 BINGOOOOO
30 minutes? I saw 12 seconds!
Hearing the "we no longer need your services" makes my heart rate spike.
Same, this conversation is always in my head every time I fuck up at work
@@TheItalian57 ... a.k.a. free
Right? Just sky rocket.
This is why business will always be POS in my book. Never be loyal or friendly to a corporation that only sees you as a cog in their machine. Remember this very well kids.
we all been there
I love when the bosses get fired. Work conditions, expectations & leniency are horrible in so many places and the employees are just numbers. Wake up call.
I think most managers/bosses would be fired if the had to do their employee’s job at the rate the company would “like” for you to work
Agree 100%
Doubtful
Nope
I’m a expert level Toyota tech, my “engineer” ex boss wouldn’t touch dirt let alone be able to diag and r/r a thing. No he could never do my job. I don’t necessarily think I could walk in first day and do his either. All employees need training.
They don't need to get fired. They fire themselves when the business inevitably fails because they keep over hiring people who aren't needed because they are too cowardly to fire the "under performers" (They're fine at the job but the boss is just super spoiled and believes they deserve better because it's everyone else's fault but their own). So instead they will hire 4+ extra people to make the "peasants" fight over their minimum wage position as if it were worth fighting over in the first place. This way surely the "underperformers" will quit on their own and I won't have to go through the confrontation of firing someone I just don't like but pretending that there's a professional reason behind it. So then they end up paying wages for multiple people who are basically just getting paid to look pretty and the business just goes bankrupt if higher management doesn't intervene and "let go of staff" that they themselves hired when the positions were filled anyway. All to avoid confrontation because they really are that pathetic. I swear to God man you are creating some money hungry power hungry cold hearted men the way you are treating young employees.
My guess is that they're always hiring.
Most warehousing and shipping jobs you have 30 days to get to speed if you can't hack it you're fired it's nothing personal it's just like not making a team when you were in school it stings a little bit to know you're not good enough but a healthy person should be able to move on and find something else
@robertstone9988 yea a healthy person will but they're better off in the long run not being treated like crap with crazy deadlines and the more you do, the more is expected of you. These warehouse jobs are cancer
@@MeMe-ef5fw I agree they're not for everybody but neither is playing in the NBA that doesn't mean you're a bad person cuz you can't cut it just means you're meant for something else. You're not entitled to a job just because you need it real bad you have to be able to perform the duties that that job requires you can't be a fireman if you don't like going into burning buildings enchant work in a warehouse if you can't keep up. You can't be mad at the warehouse that you didn't make the cut no more than you can be upset that you didn't make the cut to make the Denver Nuggets
@robertstone9988 I agree completely with you except, they treat people like slave labor. You don't have to work there. That's right but they don't have to run sweat shops either
@@robertstone9988 valid point, the world needs ditch diggers too
Every boss should have to do this to see what they are doing with their employees.
They don't care.
Bosses only care about how to run the company more efficiently to boost share price and their bonuses
Maybe. But, also i think people could stop being such crybabies about being expected to work, meet goals, and listen to criticism.
@@herogibson
When did he act like a crybaby?
I never asked any one working for me to do something I hadn't or wouldn't do. Way it should be.
All bosses need to actually work the jobs of their employees. This is why I respect people who work from the ground up so much. They know what it takes to run a company and appreciate all the cogs in the wheel.
it takes exactly 1 thing to run a company. the willingness to abuse and exploit your fellow human beings.
its not a skill, its a lack of morals.
A good glimpse into how terribly workers are treated.
Hope he gave her a big raise...and hope he had a good talk with the person that fired him about giving a person a lil bit of time to learn the job skill..
fire the firer. lack of empathy
She was also a terrible trainer
If he’s the boss though, surely he has approved the policy of ‘you can fire people on their first day if they’re not fast enough’
@@yanceyboyz what is there to actually train lol open box tape box put product on tape shut put label. Also you don’t know what the show cut out.
@@joemcintyre3558 You can't expect people to be pros on the first day.
The woman he was working with should be a trainer and the guy who fired him should go do the job. I've had people who just needed a little time and encouragement. A little patience. Sometimes take a different tact when training them and they turned out to be superstars. They also turn out to be loyal, reliable and dependable when you encourage them and train them ... gently.
it's not how it works most places though. Very sad. Minimum wage jobs and suppose to do your job and train. Been there, done that.
Exactly this, I used to train people to drive PIT machines aka forklifts at a warehouse and some of the hardest people to teach with a little patience went from fear of the machine, to knowing it like the back of their hand, another muscle in their body. People often have no patience and it can affect others.
Taking 5 mins to show him why his tape machine is binding woulda saved hours lost. She clearly either wanted him to or was told to let him fail cause she should have been able to teach him right quick unless hes that incompetent
People learn in different ways. Either tactile (hands on doing) audio, visual. Most are a combo of the 3. Never expect all people to learn the same way!
You, my sir, or Miss or ma’am, or a true supervisor, you are a true trainer, you are the most valuable commodity on the floor, wherever you are! The woman needs to be the supervisor,,, the supervisor needs to be thrown in a rubbish bin somewhere. The young man should have a experienced person working with him who happens to be on their day off, so they can be on a one on one. And the complete job training needs to be revised. The so-called supervisor who terminated the young man, needs a do not rehire, under any circumstance put next to his discharge papers. And the young woman needs to be moved to supervisor,,, since there is an immediate opening position available. In the decision making, and being that this was filmed.,, the young man should be apologized to on behalf of all management.
I like how everyone is only attacking the manager, rather than the system the manager works in and the person he works for
He's the manager. He is in CHARGE of the system. So if there is a problem with the system, who do YOU blame? The system itself? Or the people who CREATED the system and profit off of exploiting their employees? You seem to have a lot of empathy for people who have NO empathy for others...
I remember working at package place, they wanted me for machine opp, but moved me to help then a material handler never any proper training and then they let me go. A blessing in disguise
I'd love to see Jeff Bezos from Amazon on this show he'd die of a heart attack if he saw what his staff do.
He’s the reason they do it 🤨
@@generalptdAyes but he meant if Jeff does the same thing as a warehouse worker he won’t make it
@@Avocado_Ruler kind guy pointing that out
In the early days of Amazon, Jeff Bezos was known to have personally packed orders himself. In fact, in the company's early days, Bezos and a small team of employees would often pack and ship orders themselves, sometimes staying up all night to get them out on time. This hands-on approach was part of the company's culture that prioritised customer service by getting orders out fast.
He doesn't have to to now
The man didn't have an apartment or house for a while and lived in his office
A lot of people are missing the point. I guarantee you he heard a lot of complaints about this particular manager and decided test them for himself. He is clearly being intentionally slow and clumbsy to see how the manager and other workers react. I bet he noticed how the other workers seemed to care and try to help with pointers but they didn't have time to really make themselves heard. Then the manager shows up and straight up fires him on his first day because hes a bit slow at picking things up. That right there told him all he needed to know about why the turnover rate for his company was so high (im just assuming it was) and he now can replace this shitty manager with a better one. Its amazing what a difference it makes to have a good manager vs a bad one.
Definitely, I've had some great bosses over the years. A good manager recognises skills and gives encouragement. Gives reprimand when needed, but respectfully, then moves on. Also a great boss 'mucks in' when things get hectic.
@@stevedoubleu99B best manager I ever had told me you can’t buy effort. If someone is going to try to do a good job and they’re determined, you’d have to be an idiot to fire them. That person will get good at it, and likely much quicker than most. Someone could start a job and already know everything about it, but if they don’t give a shit and it’s obvious then throw em to the curb when they inevitably give you that opportunity
Well, the undercover boss needs to look in the mirror first & understand that he's ultimately the biggest issue.
To be fair that manager is probably being pressured to keep production to a maximum. But to fire someone after 2 hours without even explaining the tape gun or giving an alternative. This is just poor training. For starters the woman cannot train this guy if she is in fear for her job due to quotas. I know a warehouse one of my family members worked at and they hire some absolute clusterfux. They are getting $20+ per hour and aren't under 1/3 of the pressure of this packing line.
The manager could be powerless aswell. He mentioned his "numbers" were not good enough, likely they track how many boxes you do and have a minimum boxes per hour to continue working. Though most places that i workes like that wouls give you no minumum while you were in training.
That lady was really trying to help him even though she was drowning in work. He should fire that manager and promote the lady to his spot.
I worked for FedEx for a total of one month. They were so sweet, they would do evaluations not because they wanted you to be a certain speed at a certain point, but because they strictly wanted to see improvement in their new hires.
I ended up quitting because I was only getting paid enough for gas to get there and back (I lived a half hour away), and my body couldn't handle the physical stress. The managers and co workers were all amazing, if you are active, 10/10 go to fedex.
She probably deals with this on a weekly basis and is that fast because she has to be since they keep firing people for unrealistic expectations. Poor women, I hope when he revealed himself he gave her a fat promotion, she was kind and patient while he struggled. Thats what a supervisor should be.
Agreed I've had managers like that guy before... and as someone with ASD (supposedly) I'm a bit slower to learn than most people are... managers really need to learn patience...it's no wonder all these jobs are shutting down
Noooo, that woman was straight lying through her teeth and aided in getting him fired;
She got a 5$ gift card to target for packing 300 boxes a minute for 10 years.
Henry Ford made it a point to have all of his executives work EVERY job in the company so they could relate to their workers. Here is a prime example of why CEOs should!
he also liked the nazi party
Except the picture of hitler on his desk
@@WestenCombs ford was weird dude a racist and a fascist no doubt but he also made sure to pay his workers well enough that they could actually afford the products they were making.
@@braidans4767 I'm sure hitler paid his men handsomely too
@@braidans4767 Every classical fascist strives for "class collaboration", therefor it would be outright nonsensical for a classical fascist to abuse his workers (as this would inevitable lead to "class warfare").
However, Henry Ford never subscribed to classical fascism, he only sympathized with some of its principles.
“Oh you can’t do this to me, I built this company! DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED” ~ Norman Osborne
my boss taught me EVERYTHING i know about my job, he was lenient but got onto you if you were slacking, he made sure to tell you how to improve but if he had to he would yell, and i thank him for teaching me how to work rather than doing this
This is why I don’t give 100% at any job anymore. They always want to hold me back. I do excellent service, hit my numbers and always complete the task I’m given.
Whatever liar
I work pretty average now to coast by, fuck em all lmao
I quit going above and beyond when both I and the worst employee on our team both got promoted. And the supervisor couldn't understand that their actions told me that I'm no better than the other person. Now I'm gone, but they are still there struggling with the same issues they had before promotion.
Mans was there 4 hours tops. Dude, 4 days is barely enough to decide if someone is able to learn a new job
@@Gcxq not necessarily…
Unfortunately a lot of companies all over America treat people like this, In my experience as a manager who's done a lot of training people. It can take weeks to really figure out if someone's gonna be an asset or not, But taking that time to assess people properly can really be a difference maker in the long term if you're willing to put the time in. Most companies are not willing to put the time in.
If I see somebody crushing boxes while literally just trying to put tape on it...he's fired
Be very careful. Because I'm sure if you fire the owner of the company you work for. you will get fired.
Im sorry but it would not take me 4 days to learn how to tape boxes fast and efficiently
Damn, at amazon, they give you a month or so to pick up the rate, even then they give you write ups 😂. I literally was worse than this guy the first day but they kept me
thats exactly what the boss wanted to hear.
As a manager, I always give new employees time to find their own rhythm, for all you managers and CEO out there, a few words of encouragement to your employees can go a very long way, make them feel like they matter to the company, not just another number.
Side note: that lady is incredible, if you aren't going to promote her, she deserves a huge raise and PTO
My lil brother works at Walmart and they screw him over real bad because he is the only one doing two departments. He took off Sunday from being sick and he told me they had to get 4 people over there to do what he normally does every day by himself
@@OverRule1 wow lol typical
He can use that to put pressure on his boss for a raise.
It is a dam tape gun ffs if you can not be up to speed after the first shift. You should be fired as you are totally useless
True.
Taking a human being and working them like robots requires training and proper compensation.
Repetitive motions like that day after day can really be unhealthy for the person doing it.
That manager needs retrained on how to train others
Those folks could also use some more diverse responsibilities.
Your brain turns off after doing that kind of stuff for a while which you dont want.
👍
Whatever dude. Managers are just puppets for corporate administrators. Nothing but a middle man
They gave him that tape gun knowing it was tight as hell 😂😂
For real. I noticed that too. It’s the show trying to make it more entertaining.
I’m glad you know what the scam was. There always is one
One thing I hate about blue collar jobs is that they never explain anything at all ever. You're expected to figure it out yourself.
They made his job difficult, I’m sure they’ll be pissed if it happened to them on their first week or so. Well the undercover boss doesn’t need to know that side of work cos it’s fun to socialise with people multitasking and it’s easy work done by machines
He don't yank it . That the key to it .
This is proof that the employers themselves aren't able to perform as productively as they demand from their employees. Yet, they still demand unattainable levels of productivity...
Amazing how often you see bosses that can't do what they expect of their people
I worked for exactly two days in this business and couldn't handle the pressure. I also struggled immensely with that tape gun and everyone looked at me like I was a huge inconvience on my first day. On my second day, my colleagues were pissed because "I _still_ couldn't properly use that thing after working for eight hours yesterday". I didn't even have a proper supervisor. I was just dumped there with no guidance. Just had to figure it all out on my own. I realized I didn't belong there and quit on the spot. It's true what they say: fun colleagues may be even more important than the actual work.
To be fair, using a tape gun isnt hard, especially after 8 hours
@@benguensche way to completely miss the point, Ben.
Slave mentality , you should be happy that you dont work there
Oh my you lost so much you should cry and be depressed now lol
@@thelightside77 Oh my you plan to stab someone with that edge?
Her idea of training was just doing it really fast in front of him.
If you seriously need to be trained in order to put tape on a box then you are too stupid to do that job and should be fired immediately.
If you seriously need to be trained in order to put tape on a box then you are too stupid to do that job and should be fired immediately.
Smart enough not to properly train her replacement.
Half azz training. Fired from taping the top of a box? 😮
Because there is no such thing as training. The business can't "justify" a full-time trainer, mostly because C-suites don't know operations or the floor supervisors don't care to make a business case for it. The work is seen as "trivial" so how much training can you really need. This poor lady could train properly, but then her numbers go down and she gets fired. She isn't get paid to train. This is what you get when you build a "competitive" culture among employees. And no one will ever be able to figure out why their turn-over is so high.
"We no longer need your service"
Those exact same words came right back at him later didn't it?
And even given his inability to do it within the limited time to prove himself. She still had the good grace to frown and feel sad for him getting fired, she is a compassionate person that cares about her job and the others that work there. We lack enough of those people and have an over abundance of leaners in this world.
And pornstars
@@Cali_boy92 Wtf? _🤨_
@@IPlayLegends we not only have an abundance of learners in this world and p***stars too😅
@@Cali_boy92 Where tf did you get pornstars from? Are you sure you're on the right site?
@@Cali_boy92 Uh, LEANERS, not learners. LEANER, a person that leans and don't work. You know the saying, you got time to lean, you got time to clean.
Bear in mind, HES THE BOSS, HES IN CHARGE OF AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS WAY THE BUISINESS FUNCTIONS
Yep, he just showed us all that he’s incompetent and has no clue how things work there. Firing people for being slow on the first day…. Insanity
@@cosmicnova2355 he's talking about the guy who got "fired" he owns the entire company. He's responsible for the way that manager acts, as he's responsible for the entire company.
Function / training? There is none. I hope I see this one on tv
@@commenthero2514
😂 they all confused
Beth any competent supervisor knows you don't fire someone on their first day you clearly don't have a job based on your comment
That woman was so kind and patient trying to train him and you can see her really feel for him when he got fired. She deserves better.
I think the craziest part of this is how often they get fired for underperformance. I’ve literally never seen a person be fired for it in real life. And I’ve worked in some pretty unforgiving jobs.
How many workers can say that they literally fired the CEO of their company? LOL!
(But I'd keep that off my resume')
On the first day😅😂😂
On that's a keeper on a resume.
Wym that goes in the header
@@iceman6518 LOL!
Really, it should happen more often.
A lot of CEO's couldn't find their own ass with both hands and a road map!
@@mayorb3366 100% true the workers underthem are the "Team" that is the real success but diffrent pay because you have to punt the idea straight up their ass and explain every simple part untill they get it or they just decide no and save $1 to spend $1000 later those are my favorites.
She genuinely seemed 😢 upset that he got fired.
well ya, people suck these days, baldy is there to train. so he walks away. lol
lady got fired not undercover owner of company pretending to be new.
@@WLHS no, that's 100% NOT what happened...
Yeah, cuz now she's gotta do more work herself. Even if he was slow, every box he did is one less for her.
@@WLHS no the guy in the red hat did. The lady was really fast.
Never seen anyone fired from these jobs, not for any reason. That's crazy
The "Peter Principle" states people are promoted until they reach a position where they are no longer competent. The "Dilbert Principle" states they are promoted because of their incompetence.
The way he said “I’m sorry 🥺” after he got fired made me really sad.
Why?
They're his own company's rules. He can't even cut his own mustard so to speak, as it is in many cases. The ruling classes don't have what it takes to do what they expect of those they exploit, yet they have all the control and power. Backwards world we live in.
He’s a millionaire!he doesn’t care. Lol
Would have been better if he pulled a reverse uno card and fired the bald dude
CEO to Manager: "Well ok then, we no longer need your services either". 😂
Can’t 🤣😂 he needs to know managers would fire those who aren’t needed. (However that’s assuming this is over 4 hours into the job not 4 mins a short clip can leave out details like that)
She looks so sad. What a sweetheart xx
Proving there’s no such thing as “unskilled labor.”
there's impractical practice
and then there's shit shoveling
Bald guy needs to be fired!
The tape has a tensioner on the side, my job taught me how to loosen it as soon as they saw me struggling with a new roll of tape that was very stiff coming out and I was struggling like he was. Notice her tape is easy. She is gate keeping and she probably knows it.
I noticed that also. She sticks and lifts and the box doesn’t get yanked. So I know hers is loose. His sticks and the box moves. She knew.
@@dredennis113 "oh, how interesting, they want to film me training this 'random' guy... I bet he's the owner. Time to let him suffer."
100%
First thing I noticed.
At the same time, dude owns a packing company and doesn't know how to use a tape dispenser.
@IamI3rian
Running a company is much different than operating the tools of that company.
I work construction, and a large number of owners are oblivious to the work that we do on a daily basis.
The episode producer probably told her to do it..
Supervisor was hard and mean to say those things in front of everyone 😢. He got an ego power trip😮!
“You can’t fire me! You know what I’ve done for this company? How much I’ve sacrificed?” 😂😂😂
Welcome in real life boss man.
"You don't immediately have the skills that come from years of work, you are fired"
you guys need to get jobs someday
literally my manager from few months ago
They say if you measure a fish's intelligence by how well he could climb a tree you'll always see him as stupid. Makes you think of how many potential CEOs get prevented from rising up to the top because they get fired for bullshit.
That's when the CEO decided, he needs robots and fired all the workers later😂
the real tragedy here is them being too cheap to give her a combi machine for taping
That guy has the physical coordination of a deer on rollerskates on ice.
Man, I really really want to see the reveal now. I need to find this episode. The blood has to just drain entirely from the manager's bald head
American companies:
We won’t invest even a little bit of time in training and nurturing you to be a good employee and the moment you’re not up to par you’re fired. Well done!
I wanna see the end interviews
yes me too lol
@Dale Gribble can you send the link I want to watch it
@@xsiikphyziiksx7205 yes same. I would like to watch it also
@@xsiikphyziiksx7205 do people still not realize you can't comment links on TH-cam? Its been like that for years now folks..
th-cam.com/video/FPReYs_WQgE/w-d-xo.html
I can only imagine the look on the managers face when he realizes he fired the CEO of the company.
Why? He’s just doing what he’s supposed to. It’s not his money paying employees so he doesn’t care about productivity beyond a lack of productivity being blamed on leadership. He’s doing exactly what those above him (like the ceo) want him to do
@Jthanson Aside from that bollocks you sidetracked on, I too, would like to see the look on the guys face.
It's no deeper than that.🙄
Hopefully the CEO took it well, and received unemployment until he can find a slower paced job he can keep up with.
@@MrTangent why would he need unemployment when he’s the CEO?
@@alyssabelmore604 Because he just got fired.
It was at this moment he reached in his pocket and displayed his uno reverse card 😂
We don’t need bosses. The bosses need us.
I mean there is a mutually beneficial agreement.. both need each other once a company reaches a certain point.
Whatever you say comrade. What a sad life you live.
It’s actually both. But okay.
@@jmanpolo5611Why does a worker need a boss?
@@project_AkiraHey, are the boss who could put tape on a single package?
To reward them for their hard work he gave himself a 200k bonus
And no vacation?
Sure about that?
😂😂😂
TV Producer: “Now act like you can’t tape up a box so we can pretend that you get fired.”
Exactly!!! It’s like people forget that the “reality” in reality tv is just gaslighting. They tend to get just as mad as wrestling fans when you point out it’s fake too 😂
I hope that's not what happened but sadly you're probably right ...
@@AyeYoTay84There is a film crew literally five feet away from him. how anyone thinks this is real is amazing. Like in boxing when a punch with a glove on can knock a guy out cold, but in wwe a person can be punched 20 times in the face bare knuckle and come back and win the match.
@@koobs4549 Wrestling is a performance. Real wrestling is pretty boring and hard to understand how anyone can get points. Movies are fake. Celebrities are fake. Streamers are fake. TH-camrs are fake. I'm sure if I figured out what kind of things you like to watch are and call them fake, you'd get triggered too. I'mma say football and basketball are fake too. UFC is fake. Just to see how it triggers people. Like you.
Nah, that is a skill and that guy doesn't have it.
The smirk and cold eyes on their faces say everything. Who'd want to work there?
You could tell she felt bad for him 😢
That lady should have a night out in her honour as the star of the night on the company to remind her she's not a machine. What a worker.
she is just like an ordinary asian worker tbh
@@lok6314 Went right over your head didn't it?
@@jamesfrench7299 yes sir
Sounds bad for profits to me dude. It's not how executives get ri-- I mean corporations succeed.
I would regularly watch undercover boss when it aired on television and I remember watching this episode.
Every company owner should go though this. Very valuable learning experience and a way to really connect with employees
The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing people that CEOs contribute 500-1000x more value to a company than line workers.
They literally started the business.
Without HIM,...NOBODY has a job.
So his value was earned by his risk capital.
@@nostradamus7648not in all cases are the ceo creating a company with their own money
The CEO runs the entire company and is not judged on how well they perform menial tasks within said company.
@@enrlichhartman If he outsources the money even better.
Why risk your own capital when you can get investors.
It's still him taking the risk.
Go tell your Socialist teachers they're wrong.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing unskilled, unintelligent people that they deserve the same piece of the pie as the people who are actually making decisions and managing all of their incompetent underlings.
Forget keeping up, just get it done right, the speed will catch up in time
This! Perfectly explained! ❤
We had a saying in my unit: "slow is smooth, smooth is fast."
@Scott Dove a lot of places don't allow time for that, l worked in a sweat shop here in Ireland making suits for Magee and they would shout at you throw jackets about and call you a "stupid b×tch"...amazing what was allowed, no union, luckily l was only there 4 years to get myself through college. Worst time of my life. They eventually took their factory to another country with even less labour laws l guess.
@@ScottDove-kx6uwYou do realise if they had a union the management would be in serious trouble.
@Scott Dove So you don't understand what unions do, or just generally stooopid?
This video is a prime example of why Unions are necessary for employees to be protected
The way she smiles at the termination
Then the boss calls up the media and complains about a “worker shortage”
and then customers stop giving you business cause your products quality sucks and that business has to fire more workers and eventually close down to more competent competition who held high standards
"People don't wanna work. They get $20 a day in unemployment benefits, we can't compete with that"
@@3rdalbum the whole sentiment of people don’t want to work is hilarious. Like no, we want to work. Just not for the poverty wage you’re offering.
@@luc410 if only that worked, except the businesses own so many other businesses, you have to play Detective and meticulously cut each and wvery piece of them out of your life, like the heads off a Hydra.