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@NASASpaceflight when the engine telemetry is on during space flight your loso NSF blocks out the engine info, can you make your NSF logo in the lower left transparent for when the engine telemetry is on screen
@@messylauraor better yet, just move the logo to the top-right corner. That top-right corner doesn't seem to be used for much in third-party streaming content, unlike the bottom of the screen.
I think the Artemis Program is waaaaaaaay behind schedule to the point I’m skeptical we get boots on the moon by 2030. Lunar Starship was supposed to be completed and certified by 2026 in addition, Earth Orbit refueling had same projection. NASA is no better, SLS Artemis 2 was supposed to have been completed by now.
Artemis is a joke and SPACEX should just go to the moon without them otherwise by the time we all get around to waiting for Artemis to get their crap together China will be on the moon and will not be willing to share it.
HLS starship is being made with NASA it's a very different custom non reusable rocket stage compared to what is happening for regular crew rated starship
I just got new bass boosted speakers and honestly I hadn't noticed the rhythmic thump throughout the video until now! It's from the backround music you put but I can only hear the bass!
I'm using my late gran's psychic powers to project F7 launch scheduled for 11 January, but then delayed for four days by winter storms, finally launching on 15 January - my 78th birthday!!
Happy early birthday! 🍻 Unfortunately, it's going to launch on Feb 14th, because _"Launching is for Lovers"_ 😘🚀 (as well as the *plethora* of euphemisms lol) Ordinarily I'd say that geeks are single *_anyways,_* but these days they are rock(et)stars, and I'm sure many of them are married or dating! Admittedly, I'm recycling this bit from my 2024 prediction, but it still works... 😅
Everyone in the office is now looking at me like I'm an idiot as I can't stop laughing at "when are they gonna be do that", so thanks for leaving that in 🤣
Flight # 7 next January... Well , Soo...I'm guessing 9 total launches next year - 2025 - especially since they'll get the Second Launch Tower up and running
They trying to get a license to launch 25 per year. I'd think that prob means aiming for 1 launch every month for a single tower/tank farm. Then when 2nd tower comes online it'll be 2 launches per month i.e 24/25 launches a year.
Consumables, FAA approvals, and V3 Starship boosters oh my! Whole lotta stuff going on there Jack and @NasaSpaceFlight team! Thanks as always for keeping us up to date. I was HOPING there'd be another (F7) test before EOY, but ain't gonna happen. Oh well... I had noticed that existing boosters barely cleared the doors on existing megabays. So, that was pretty obvious that they'd need a new "Super-dooper-mega" (or MAGA?) bay. 2025 is looking promising as we step back and look at what was accomplished so far in 2024. Not the frenetic pace of years gone by, perhaps, but still lots of progress, and lots of lessons learned.
if there is one thing about SpaceX that will always amaze me, is the speed of work and the devotion each worker puts in and no one there works 8 hr. shift some 12 and 14 shift to get the job done . such a time to live to see these great future space flight dreams come true.
I know its probably too late for Pad A until it is "grounded" for major rework to be compatibile with future boosters But i wonder if on Pad B they will reposition the booster QD Rn the QD gets blaster a lot partly due to pad avoidance manevour the booster takes off during liftoff. If say the QD was not on the tower side of the deck perhaps it would see less damage with each launch? Like for example on SLS you have 2 similiar QDs for core stage(i think "Tail Service Mast Umbilical" is their name?) placed on the other side of the flame hole and they dont get beaten up so badly, infact there was little damage to them at all, Im curious to see if they do that on Pad B and future pads
They said they want to send a rocket to mars in 2026. What would they bring to mars? Obviously no humans yet. Could it be some robots that build some testing stuff?
@@J-wm4goah yes, remember how teslas supposedly explode because of the batteries? Or did your kind forget about that particular bit of propaganda after Tesla became the first car company to be valued at 1 trillion dollars
To catch a ship the ship the chopsticks would have to close after the rear flaps pass and close in between the forward and rear flaps. That'll be interesting.
One thing I noticed (for what little it's worth) is that during the flip up the rear flaps fold as flat as they can. Someone on the team might already be thinking about that.
What Musk is doing with these more powerful ships is a learning curve. There are bugs that need to be ironed out. Each flight will show him what needs to be done, changed, improved, etc. Look back at our first efforts at going to the Moon. It was not just one step and neither is this.
I'm guessing one of the things on the mast is Differential GPS hardware. If that gets taken offline or even just is moved from its original position, the booster won't be able to use DGPS offsets to get much more precise positioning fixes. That's probably why it got called off.
If the Booster QD gets roasted every time due to pad avoidance maneuvers... wouldn't it be smarter to relocate it 90° around the platforms? Or are the filler lines running up the tower and it'd be counterproductive to have them extended the 75-100ft needed to accommodate the relocation? I've seen folks suggest using the tiles and cladding the QD hood in them. Which is something I considered as well but discounted because I assume it'd be unfeasible due to their brittle nature, and that the shockwaves during launch would shatter them...
@@imaginary_friend7300 We can only hope! Time will tell once Tower 2/B reaches that point. They'd have to snake the lines up one of the legs, but I don't think that would be too much of an issue.
Now THAT was an explosion, NOT a "deflagration" as some revisionists would suggest. Just like I remember seeing! Right at the beginning of the video, too! Whether a piece of booster 13 remained on the surface afterwards is kinda, well, totally irrelevant!
@@jamescobban857 You need to adjust your ideology to fit reality. You are just some sort of weird apologist for some alternate reality. Have fun with that!
@@kevenbennett8827 No. I am a person who has spent my professional life leading multi-million dollar engineering projects and whose Father did the same for fifty years. For example my Father's first job out of university was in the munitions plant where they made the shaped charges for the A-bomb dropped on Nagasaki. I am not joking. The destruction of B13 was a "Hollywood explosion". Hollywood explosions are designed by the special effects people to look massive, but of course cause little or no damage to the studio lot. For example the explosion in Oppenheimer. Real destructive explosions *do not* look like that. Unless you have professional experience in military ordinance or mining, do not ridicule the professional experience of other commenters.
@ sorry about that😔 An LNG plant is a massive physical & energy investment and typically take up as much space as Starfactory. It looks like there is at least 1 possibly 2 LNG liquefaction plants being constructed in Brownsville as well as the terminal they currently source the LNG from . They may be close enough to build a pipeline once demand is great enough🤷♂️
Don't think they own all that land. A rail line is a lot of expense and of limited ROI out there at the moment anyway. They need and like the flexibility of the SPMT's. They can move loads to and from the crane rather than having to have a crane at both ends of a move.
@@imaginary_friend7300 My thoughts on the rail line and pipeline cluster were mostly along the lines of propellant supply. Being able to offload a dozen or more tanker cars simultaneously and run them in from Brownsville in trains of 25 would probably ease up on the traffic situation (trucks wrecking the road). Moving hardware between build site and launch site seems an excellent fit with the SPMTs.
So is there a plan to pipe methane directly into the tank farm, from some nearby natural-to-methane gas facility? I've read the Rio Bravo pipeline flows much nat gas thru Brownsville to Mexico, so maybe they could tap into that? In a few years it will be a necessity, to keep up with the number of launches, yes?
That' s not an easy call. The plan (originall) was to fly missions from the cape and keep Boca as a R&D facility but I think they might want to (one day) to conduct missions from both places depending on the orbit being aimed for.
@@Charlie-Oooooo If that's the case they might want to build more infrastructure before trying to commit to a pipeline. Pipelines are not things you want to have to shift around much if you find out you need a bigger trench/hole or something else. So it might be in the 'distant' planning bin at the moment.
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insteada of using SN-10 landing why not use B-12 landing?
@@war_fish Our intros are being updated. --kmr
@@NASASpaceflight nice :)
@NASASpaceflight
when the engine telemetry is on during space flight your loso NSF blocks out the engine info, can you make your NSF logo in the lower left transparent for when the engine telemetry is on screen
@@messylauraor better yet, just move the logo to the top-right corner. That top-right corner doesn't seem to be used for much in third-party streaming content, unlike the bottom of the screen.
"When are they gonna be do that?" 😂
Great update, thank you!
8:01 that transition was smooth
Somebody cooked with that one
‘When they going be do that’ T-shirts please 😂🎉
Need.
when they catch the booster at night ... that will be epic AF with all the landing lights on the pad, and the flame up on landing burn. sick
And the super sonic bada boom will shake whole Brownsville and South Padre out of the beds.
"People don't think it be gonna be do that, but it do"
8:03 That is one smooth wipe!
Recap: IFT-7 launch WATGBDT date is Jan 11th (When Are They Gonna Be Do That date).
I cant believe Ryan left that in!!! 😂😂😂
It was too hilarious to get chopped on the editing room floor @@JackABeyer
When I visited Starbase years ago, the Stargate building, the windbreake, and Hoppy were the main attractions------
Ok the future jack stunt was weirdly cool😂
Did Jack say “Have a good Tanksgiving!”? Tanks-giving?
I always knew Jack was from another planet, I guess he's still trying to learn the language. When is he gonna be do that? 🤣🤣
I think the Artemis Program is waaaaaaaay behind schedule to the point I’m skeptical we get boots on the moon by 2030. Lunar Starship was supposed to be completed and certified by 2026 in addition, Earth Orbit refueling had same projection. NASA is no better, SLS Artemis 2 was supposed to have been completed by now.
Artemis is a joke and SPACEX should just go to the moon without them otherwise by the time we all get around to waiting for Artemis to get their crap together China will be on the moon and will not be willing to share it.
HLS starship is being made with NASA it's a very different custom non reusable rocket stage compared to what is happening for regular crew rated starship
I've never clicked a video so fast. I love the V2 starship
I just got new bass boosted speakers and honestly I hadn't noticed the rhythmic thump throughout the video until now! It's from the backround music you put but I can only hear the bass!
I'm using my late gran's psychic powers to project F7 launch scheduled for 11 January, but then delayed for four days by winter storms, finally launching on 15 January - my 78th birthday!!
Happy early birthday! 🍻
Unfortunately, it's going to launch on Feb 14th, because _"Launching is for Lovers"_ 😘🚀
(as well as the *plethora* of euphemisms lol)
Ordinarily I'd say that geeks are single *_anyways,_* but these days they are rock(et)stars, and I'm sure many of them are married or dating!
Admittedly, I'm recycling this bit from my 2024 prediction, but it still works... 😅
Yeah, when they gonna be do that?
Everyone in the office is now looking at me like I'm an idiot as I can't stop laughing at "when are they gonna be do that", so thanks for leaving that in 🤣
Happy Tanksgiving ever one!
Great update! I love the fast pace and level of detail.
Jack stole the words right out of my mouth: "When are they gonna be do that?"
Flight # 7 next January...
Well , Soo...I'm guessing 9 total launches next year - 2025 - especially since they'll get the Second Launch Tower up and running
They trying to get a license to launch 25 per year.
I'd think that prob means aiming for 1 launch every month for a single tower/tank farm.
Then when 2nd tower comes online it'll be 2 launches per month i.e 24/25 launches a year.
Great info, thanks!
Happy Thanksgiving
to all!
And yet Jack, we always want more! Thank you again for your dulcet tones, much appreciated. Keep up the good work.
Consumables, FAA approvals, and V3 Starship boosters oh my! Whole lotta stuff going on there Jack and @NasaSpaceFlight team! Thanks as always for keeping us up to date. I was HOPING there'd be another (F7) test before EOY, but ain't gonna happen. Oh well... I had noticed that existing boosters barely cleared the doors on existing megabays. So, that was pretty obvious that they'd need a new "Super-dooper-mega" (or MAGA?) bay. 2025 is looking promising as we step back and look at what was accomplished so far in 2024. Not the frenetic pace of years gone by, perhaps, but still lots of progress, and lots of lessons learned.
Jack, you’re still the best.
if there is one thing about SpaceX that will always amaze me, is the speed of work and the devotion each worker puts in and no one there works 8 hr. shift some 12 and 14 shift to get the job done . such a time to live to see these great future space flight dreams come true.
That sounds a lot more like overworking than it does 'devotion'
Can I ask how you have info on the shift lengths?
@@sachathehuman4234 this isn't communism, anyone can find a new job whenever they want
Exciting stuff coming in the next year. It's a really fun time to be into spaceflight.
Thanks Team NSF! Awesome work as always. And I'm crying at that blooper Jack..... We love ya buddy.........
The hat's badass, but even better with the shades. Thanks for the update!
8:01 You cant just drop a transition like that and not expect us to notice!
Jack and NSF, y'all rock! Love the channel and content. Peace 🤘
I appreciate the van-wipe!
Can I just say, great vid, but geat edit on the 7am 7pm issue. Sound was perfect. Editor should get credit there!!
Love what you do. But please please play some uncut landing clips, from first appearance in the sky, to land, splash, and all the fire (mostly) gone.
Do they have that kind of footage?
beautiful a new update with the baconator Jack
My guess: flight 7 will be between mid-January to late February
Long Live Ship 26🎉!!!!!!!!!
Jack Beyer, I thought it Poppa Smurf with that hat
Timelines can shift left, but optimism shouldn't be reserved for schedules period.
a lot of updates indeed thank you jack
Jack Beyer is the coolest space nerd I know 👊🏻😊
8:09 "When are they gonna be do that?" haha!! Sounds like something I would say.
Hey Jack! Love the hat!
"When are they going to be do that?" Another Jack classic?
It might be Jack but... you can here Alex
So... you are saying that work continues on the orbital launch mounts?
I know its probably too late for Pad A until it is "grounded" for major rework to be compatibile with future boosters
But i wonder if on Pad B they will reposition the booster QD
Rn the QD gets blaster a lot partly due to pad avoidance manevour the booster takes off during liftoff. If say the QD was not on the tower side of the deck perhaps it would see less damage with each launch? Like for example on SLS you have 2 similiar QDs for core stage(i think "Tail Service Mast Umbilical" is their name?) placed on the other side of the flame hole and they dont get beaten up so badly, infact there was little damage to them at all, Im curious to see if they do that on Pad B and future pads
Great transition @ 8:02
Can’t wait!!
Did anyone else hear that spacex is installing carbon dioxide tanks?
Interesting! Where did you get that? Could this be for the heat shield system?
Yes, Super Heavy boosters have carbon dioxide tanks for their fire suppression system
yeah, its for the engine bay fire suppression system i believe
Great review. Thanks
2:22 a small tower on top of a large tower? I think that's technically a turret
Flight 6 was not a fail, so they should test again in this december if they are not lazy! Meanwhile I bought DOGE to bring my contribution.
Are you being silly?
If we see a static fire of both vehicles by mid December I think they could get a lunch in before the end of the year I think that’s possible
We need a new tshirt "When be do that?"
”Standing stright once again” lol.
u guys are amazing! TY
They said they want to send a rocket to mars in 2026. What would they bring to mars? Obviously no humans yet. Could it be some robots that build some testing stuff?
Some robots, perhaps some solar panels and Tesla Power Walls. And maybe a few Cybertrucks.
Cybertrucks aren't reliable on earth, let alone on Mars. Owning one of those things is basically contraception
@@J-wm4go That's nonsense.
@@J-wm4goah yes, remember how teslas supposedly explode because of the batteries? Or did your kind forget about that particular bit of propaganda after Tesla became the first car company to be valued at 1 trillion dollars
Thanks!
You bet, appreciate the support! - Das and Team
JUSTICE FOR S-26!!!!!!!!
Love the orange 🧡 stocking hat!!
To catch a ship the ship the chopsticks would have to close after the rear flaps pass and close in between the forward and rear flaps. That'll be interesting.
One thing I noticed (for what little it's worth) is that during the flip up the rear flaps fold as flat as they can. Someone on the team might already be thinking about that.
@nasaspacelight Hahahaha “whendaygonnabedothat”😂
That was a funny blooper 😂
Happy holidays everyone! 🎉🎉🎉 Thanksgiving is first! Eat lots of turkey 🦃 😂
"When are they gonna be do that" is "Norminal"!
I bet that the 7th launch will happen not early than February
Leaked info says Jan 11.
@@okirooju3787it's not leaked info, it's paperwork and it's featured on the vid
@@okirooju3787 yes, I've watched the video
What Musk is doing with these more powerful ships is a learning curve. There are bugs that need to be ironed out. Each flight will show him what needs to be done, changed, improved, etc. Look back at our first efforts at going to the Moon. It was not just one step and neither is this.
I'm guessing one of the things on the mast is Differential GPS hardware. If that gets taken offline or even just is moved from its original position, the booster won't be able to use DGPS offsets to get much more precise positioning fixes. That's probably why it got called off.
That's my hypothesis as well.
If the Booster QD gets roasted every time due to pad avoidance maneuvers... wouldn't it be smarter to relocate it 90° around the platforms? Or are the filler lines running up the tower and it'd be counterproductive to have them extended the 75-100ft needed to accommodate the relocation?
I've seen folks suggest using the tiles and cladding the QD hood in them. Which is something I considered as well but discounted because I assume it'd be unfeasible due to their brittle nature, and that the shockwaves during launch would shatter them...
It would not surprise me to hear or learn that a update to it's design is in the works.
@@imaginary_friend7300 We can only hope!
Time will tell once Tower 2/B reaches that point. They'd have to snake the lines up one of the legs, but I don't think that would be too much of an issue.
Now THAT was an explosion, NOT a "deflagration" as some revisionists would suggest. Just like I remember seeing! Right at the beginning of the video, too! Whether a piece of booster 13 remained on the surface afterwards is kinda, well, totally irrelevant!
It waa a Hollywood explosion "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
@@jamescobban857 You need to adjust your ideology to fit reality. You are just some sort of weird apologist for some alternate reality. Have fun with that!
@@kevenbennett8827 No. I am a person who has spent my professional life leading multi-million dollar engineering projects and whose Father did the same for fifty years. For example my Father's first job out of university was in the munitions plant where they made the shaped charges for the A-bomb dropped on Nagasaki. I am not joking. The destruction of B13 was a "Hollywood explosion". Hollywood explosions are designed by the special effects people to look massive, but of course cause little or no damage to the studio lot. For example the explosion in Oppenheimer. Real destructive explosions *do not* look like that.
Unless you have professional experience in military ordinance or mining, do not ridicule the professional experience of other commenters.
@@kevenbennett8827 The irony of that statement is you're the one modifying reality to suit yourself..
In swear starship launched yesterday.
They can keep launching like falcon 9 and returning booster until ship is ready
Thanks Jack
Can't wait
F’s for S26
#whenAreTheyGonnaBeDoThat!! lmaooo Best part of the entire video!
The aft section didn't have many changes except Meririca!!! 🇺🇸
Sorry Jack, there is no BACON in space.!
7:37 Did anyone else hear "Chompsticks" arms?
When l said the high bays weren't high enough all l got was shade.
Has "Wen hop?" been eclipsed by "When are they gonna be do that?" ......? I think so.
The next big EIS will be a barge canal for cryogenic liquids.
"When are they gonna be do that?"
party on, Dude
As long as they don't touch "Star-Hopper"
Does NSF have any Ship26 Merch ?
Rest in pieces ship 26
It seems the FAA is singing a much softer tune.
Or the paperwork is finally catching up. We'll see by flight 8 or 9 when they need another modified license.
One does wonder why they truck LNG to the launch complex rather than running a NG pipeline out to a liquefaction plant at Starbase.
LNG exists at -160C. A pipeline of more than a few miles isn’t practical. Where’s the closest LNG terminal🤷♂️
@rubberside3969 I wrote "NG pipeline to a liquifaction plant", not an LNG pipeline. Read comments before you respond.
@ sorry about that😔 An LNG plant is a massive physical & energy investment and typically take up as much space as Starfactory. It looks like there is at least 1 possibly 2 LNG liquefaction plants being constructed in Brownsville as well as the terminal they currently source the LNG from . They may be close enough to build a pipeline once demand is great enough🤷♂️
Refly booster from flight 5??
iff we got a megabay,, a bigger one should be named gigabay
The Liftswarm - a new Sci-Fi Thriller bay Jack Beyer. Soon in your cinema. 👋👌😁
Are they going to assemble the new launch mount AND THEN move it to its final location? Too huge move!?
That's exactly what they did with the first one
"Bacon is the best
Stubby nozzle
West Coast......"
I wonder if SpaceX will ever consider running a railroad line out to the build site and a pipeline cluster from there to the launch site.
Don't think they own all that land. A rail line is a lot of expense and of limited ROI out there at the moment anyway. They need and like the flexibility of the SPMT's. They can move loads to and from the crane rather than having to have a crane at both ends of a move.
@@imaginary_friend7300 My thoughts on the rail line and pipeline cluster were mostly along the lines of propellant supply. Being able to offload a dozen or more tanker cars simultaneously and run them in from Brownsville in trains of 25 would probably ease up on the traffic situation (trucks wrecking the road). Moving hardware between build site and launch site seems an excellent fit with the SPMTs.
@@echomande4395 A line for tankers! That is something I certainly would not rule that out!
I’d imagine the instrument tower on top of the launch tower is similar to an ILS at the end of a runway. Just a guess.
The current theory is it's the location of the differential GPS link.
So is there a plan to pipe methane directly into the tank farm, from some nearby natural-to-methane gas facility? I've read the Rio Bravo pipeline flows much nat gas thru Brownsville to Mexico, so maybe they could tap into that? In a few years it will be a necessity, to keep up with the number of launches, yes?
That' s not an easy call. The plan (originall) was to fly missions from the cape and keep Boca as a R&D facility but I think they might want to (one day) to conduct missions from both places depending on the orbit being aimed for.
@imaginary_friend7300 yes, I also think they will keep launching from Boca. It's too good of a setup to not use it.
@@Charlie-Oooooo If that's the case they might want to build more infrastructure before trying to commit to a pipeline. Pipelines are not things you want to have to shift around much if you find out you need a bigger trench/hole or something else. So it might be in the 'distant' planning bin at the moment.
@imaginary_friend7300 Roger that.
Its orange ....
So it's time after all those explosions to finally build a Michael Bay.