The Evolution of the Domed Stadium
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- A look at the evolution of the domed stadium in North America...
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To everyone commenting that i “forgot” one stadium or another, i didnt forget anything i simply chose to discuss stadiums that were signif in the evolution of dome stadiums, I wasnt going to mention every dome under the sun lol
Yes, and you also forgot to talk about the “chrome dome” sported by many bald men 😂
Well, you did forget the Kingdome in Seattle, which opened in 1976. Though built on the cheap,, it was an engineering marvel, featuring the world's largest self-supporting concrete roof. It was imploded in 2000
@@briankady1456 I grew up going to the King Dome. And as a child in the 80’s I remember the excitement walking up seemingly ENDLESS ramps to get to the 300 level lol.
And when you say built on the “cheap” you’re not lying 😂 it cost $79 million to build. And when those ceiling tiles started falling in the 90’s the roof repair was something like $100 million. And was still being paid off by the city when they imploded it to make room for the current Seahawks/Sounders stadium.
Not to mention the St.Louis Arena the first actual domed stadium. Not some building that looks like a god damn warehouse.
The first retractable roof was actually Mellon Arena ("The Igloo") in Pittsburgh (1961). The arena was originally designed as a concert and/or opera venue, but was quickly remodeled into a hockey arena. The roof could open, but it was a hassle and difficult to maintain, so they rarely did it. Years later, a new scoreboard made it impossible to open the roof.
BC place stadium in Vancouver used to have a Teflon roof but it later got transformed into somewhat of a retractable roof powered by cables.
Those Teflon roofs are actually inflated by fans that ran along the top ring of the facility. They were incredibly costly to maintain, and repair. Also if there is large amounts of snow you need to remove it otherwise the roof will collapse as had happened in Minneapolis
BC Place is a really nice stadium. Always love using it in FIFA games.
@@alameano BC Place does have a wonderful look to it.
Let’s not forget that the whitecaps FC plays at let’s not forget that the Whitecaps FC plays at BC Place
The Superdome in New Orleans is amazing. It was definitely built to last 100 years and way ahead of its time. I’m so glad the city decided to keep it versus building a new stadium.
Yeah man but that place is outdated I remember when it was first built and to this day the lighting in there is crap so dark when Katrina hit it couldn’t handle the people because of the flooding that’s when they send them to Houston and we put them up in the Astrodome and the crime population rose that’s a fact Jack
Those other circus tent top domes are going away
It’s ugly as hell and feels like a basement inside
It's truly the pinnacle of architecture in Louisiana. A masterpiece
@@dethblade4836 that’s not saying much
MetLife Stadium not having a retractable roof was a huge mistake, especially for how expensive it was to build
Forget it! In that area, the cost would have gone THROUGH the roof. Yankee Stadium cost over $1 billion, and it has no roof.
Ford Field's "warehouse" was formerly operated by the old Hudson's department store. It now holds concessions, suites, the press box, the radio and TV booths, and office space that the Lions lease to companies.
If you are coming in from Toronto for an NFL game, it is easier to get Lions tickets as opposed to Bills tickets.
I really like the "arena" feel of Ford Field.
Add into this list Mercedes Benz Stadium, with its one of a kind pinwheel retractable roof.
T Mobile park has such a cool system with the roof but it’s definitely a northwest exclusive
The SkyDome in Toronto was revolutionary
Buffalo recently announced plans for a new open-air stadium for the Bills, but given how much public money is going to be spent, I think they should have explored building a dome, to get more use out of the facility. There probably won't be many new retractable roof stadiums build, as that adds about a billion dollars to the cost of the stadium. It is more effective to be able to move the grass field in and out.
Buffalo was actually supposed to build a dome in the 1960's, but someone embezzled the money and they were forced to wait a few years and build Rich Stadium.
Actually, a dome that is retractable could be done cheaper if they use a fabric roof like a tent but in this area that is a bad choice as they get even more in big storms then what the Vikings get when they had the collapse.
..."Buffalo was actually supposed to build a dome in the 1960's, but someone embezzled the money and they were forced to wait a few years and build Rich Stadium." This would have been back when the Bills were in the AFL and prior to Rich Stadium which came along in the early 70's. I propose that the city of Buffalo and the taxpayers of Western New York could save a boatload of cash by retro-fitting a DOME over the existing structure there in Orchard Park. The idea of building a new stadium downtown with a dome but having only 62,000 seats (about 12,000 fewer than at Rich Stadium) is asinine. Bills fans deserve better than that. They deserve to have a venue that has a large capacity (70,000 or more) with excellent egress and infrastructure (that's already in place), tons of parking (already in place) to where the tailgating by the Bills Mafia can continue to grow unabated. As a Chiefs fan the mere mention or thought of Kansas City ever doing something like this absolutely makes my blood boil! Rich Stadium is perfect for the Bills and has been since it opened. Prior to Rich Stadium, the Bills played at the War Memorial Stadium ("the Rockpile") where they expanded it twice until it eventually sat around 46,000 fans. They filled it and were LOUD! Great fans! Old video still exists of the Rockpile for those of you who are into nostalgia. Putting a domed stadium down in the city of Buffalo will stimulate business in the downtown area, but for God's sake, PLEASE make it seat at LEAST 70,000!
@@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt I say at least 65,000 at the minimum, they could find seating for 3,000 more fans easy. Just make the luxury seating have more seats and add a few to the open seating area.
@@caseysmith544 There are LOTS of ways to add in the necessary amount of seats in order to bring it up to 70-K without jacking up the overall cost of building the facility. I just think the NHL wants Buffalo's civic leaders to build a stadium that seats less than 70,000 to keep the city of Buffalo from ever thinking about bidding for a Super Bowl.
@@caseysmith544 Olympic Stadium proved that a fabric roof won't work.
Another well researched quality video, well done 👌👍
My Dad's family were all in Houston. I remember going inside the Astrodome when it first opened, that place was amazing.
Wasn’t it called the 8th Wonder of the World? Texas is a very cocky state. The phrase “everything is bigger in Texas” pretty much sums it up 😝
I'm surprised you didn't mention The Civic Arena as it had a retractable dome way back in the 1960s.
That's what I was thinking too
Also didn't mention the Kingdome in Seattle.
Great video. It took a while for domes for become more mainstream, but it’s time that they did.
Anyways, keep up the good work. You’re doing a great job.
without Tropicana Dome, the Rays wouldn't be able to play a season. It rains all the friggin time.
It's nice to see the Hoosier / RCA Dome and Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis featured. Lucas Oil Stadium is definitely a unique venue, but we love it.
i also like how b.c. place in vancouver had its roof replaced with a retractable roof. the roof itself moves inward towards the hung score board leaving the seats with cover
Weird to hear Montreal's Olympic stadium and "success" in the same sentence
I miss the Metrodome it was the best for baseball games it had its quirks and was dark but it was unique
A quick correction on the Astrodome. When the Houston Oilers opened up play in the Astrodome, they were a member of the AMERICAN FOOTBALL LEAGUE. You incorrectly stated that the Astrodome was the 1st domed NFL venue. The Oilers weren't a member of the NFL until the 1970 season, after the merger between the two leagues.
no mention of the Georgia Dome or Mercedes Benz Stadium?
Was he supposed to read off every stadium? It was the gradual evolution, not a complete list.
Could have mentioned that the Georgia Dome and Tropicana Field were unique because they had similar cable-stayed roofs.
Forgot the Kingdom in Seattle
The Pontiac Silverdome. The place that Hogan Slammed Andre and the Lions played in.
I remember that Wrestle Mania 😆
I don't wanna be "that guy", but Chase Field here in Phoenix, AZ was called Bank One Ballpark until 2005 when Chase bought Bank One. Just a fun fact 😊
Now whilst this video only goes over stadiums in North America, I thought I'd add some notable examples from elsewhere in the world. Now, whilst association football doesn't have a ton of retractable roof stadiums, it does have a few.
First notable one I want to point out is de GelreDome in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Whilst University of Phoenix stadium was the first to have a retractable roof and field in the USA, GelreDome was, as far as I know, the very first in the world, opening all the way in 1998. Also in the Netherlands is the Johan Cruijff ArenA, which instead of a retractable field uses a hybrid grass, with the roof letting through light.
Japan also has a history of big domed stadiums. From the famous huge Tokyo Dome to the insanely unique Sapporo Dome, which has a retractable football field with a baseball field under it - when the football field is wheeled out of the stadium, the baseball field appears, and then they rotate two parts of the grandstands ~135° so it's in a good spot for baseball. Look it up, Sapporo Dome transformation, it's very satisfying. However, the baseball team isn't happy that they basically play on 70s AstroTurf (to accommodate the natural grass football field), so they're building the absolutely beautiful ES CON Field Hokkaido, another dome. Another notable stadium in Japan is Toyota Stadium, which has an unique accordeon roof which, has some reliability problems. And finally for Japan, there's the Saitama Super Arena. An absolutely giant arena which can transform from a basketball/volleyball arena to a stadium so big it can even fit in an American football field, thanks to movable seating.
And to close it off, two more notable ones, Principality Stadium in Wales, which is absolutely huge (bigger then the Superdome!) and opened all the way in 1999. And finally, the worlds biggest domed arena, being constructed right now, the Jakarta International Stadium. 82.000 people, in a stadium which looks gigantic.
I honestly think the retractable roof stadium will be the future for most of the NFL and MLB as the games can be outside for good weather participation and/or wind, even too hot or cold but then closed for rain, snow and other things like too windy.
I'm still amazed the Twins didn't build one.
@@darryljorden9177 To be fair most MLB is done in mid spring to end of summer so the temps are still nice for the Twin Cities. The team also wanted to go with the outdoor trend at the time for areas that did not need a domed stadium due to heat or storms and rarely are their thunderstorms in Twin Cities during the main part of summer but more in late spring early summer is the chance high for spring storms.
@@caseysmith544 Obviously, it is the COLD that is the major issue with baseball in the Twin Cities and with MLB now consistently starting the season in March and flirting with November to end it, a retractable roof would seem to have been a no-brainer. Even Milwaukee, a bit further south of the TC, went that route. (I wonder if there are any contingencies to play at US Bank Stadium which I understand is capable of hosting baseball?)
@@darryljorden9177 Yeah I think a Retractable roof would have been the best option given the late spring early summer storms at the least in the upper Plains and Upper Western Midwest area. However, at the time the trend was to do open stadiums if the bulk of the season it made sense to do so. Milwaukee might have done this due to NFL Green Bay Packers still having a game at Milwaukee for the first 2--3 years of the stadium before Lambo field got more seating to host those bigger games in the early 2000's.
@@caseysmith544 Correction: The Packers final game in Milwaukee was in 1995, 5 years before Miller Park opened in April 2000. In fact, Miller Park cannot even mark off a full football field inside of it. Green Bay had added luxury suites to Lambeau and they would actually lose money by going to Milwaukee for the 3 games(1 preseason, 2 regular season). So,k they announced they were leaving Milwaukee at the end of 95. Milwaukee owner Bud Selig at the time was putting to together a multi-purpose stadium design together with the Packers when the Packers announced they were leaving Milwaukee. So, Bud went back to the drawing board and came up with the baseball only stadium with a retractable roof that became Miller Park. Becoming a baseball only stadium lowered the cost and made if far more possible to get government agreement to build it. But at no time was Miller Park ever designed with the Packers in mind.
Bank One Ballpark, now Chase field is one of the most underrated stadiums in the mlb.
Very nicely done video!
Missed BC Place and Tokyo Dome among the air supported domes.
Are you going to make a video about Veterans Stadium? Btw, nice vids, keep it up!
RIP Kingdome
Amen
Also, you forgot to mention the Kingdome in Seattle which was built in the 1970's as the home of both the Seattle Seahawks and Mariners.
The only concrete dome
@@henneds Until Yakima built its own domed stadium in 1989, called the Sundome. It too featured a concrete roof and looked like a cross between the Tacoma Dome and the Kingdome.
The Astrodome had real grass in it the first year that it opened in 1965. The grass kept dying because it didn't get enough sunlight. After the first year, they created an artificial turf that they called Astroturf, from the baseball team's nickname.
Actually the grass that first year would have thrived if they had not had to paint the roof over the infield area. The grass was especially developed for the Astrodome. Unfortunately this added paint precluded the grass surviving. By the end of the year we were just painting green over the dead grass and dirt. Right down the road from Houston the Monsanto company developed the first Astroturf. I worked for the Astros form 65-69.
And the rest......is history!
@ Ray Goldenberg-- I can remember that when the Astrodome first opened in 1965, it was called the 8th Wonder of the World. It seems like a waste that the Astros only played there for thirty five years, while they are still using Wrigley Field and Fenway Park that are over 100 years old.
I was in Houston in August of 1975, and saw a couple of games at the Astrodome. It was very hot and humid at the time, and it was nice to watch a baseball in comfort.
Just a couple of things, and I don't really know if they are corrections, but just setting the record straight here:
1) The Tropicana dome has a teflon/fabric roof and is translucent enough to let in some natural light (perhaps not quite as much as the Silverdome did, but enough for there to be a difference on a sunny day).
2) Preferable is pronounced PREF-er-a-ble with the accent on the first syllable.
I really hope that outdoor stadiums don’t completely go away.
I used to feel that way. Until I baked in the sun at Yankee Stadium a few summers ago, then froze my butt off at an early season game a year after that.
You can think Jerry jones for starting this trend in stadium design and the sterilisation of America and it’s people. NFL is slowly turning into the arena league and it really frustrating and sad to see
The cold-weather teams in the NFL Lose a huge advantage when they switch to domes. A lot of the Viking success in the 70s had to do with them being acclimated to the cold weather
It wasn’t mentioned here but the Kingdome in Seattle didn’t last long. It opened in 1976 and was demolished twenty four years later.
The technology behind the design for the retractable roof that Montreal's Olympic Stadium was supposed to have for the 1976 Olympics was never really feasible. Not ONE Quebec architect or engineer was EVER consulted and THATS at least one of the reasons behind its failure. Montreal's winters are harsh compared to France, where Roger Taillebert was from. Not to.mention the secret deals, corruption, poor construction management, the failure to incorporate inflation, etc. I could go on.
I seem to recall reading the Texas Stadium dome wasn't finished out of fear the roof would weigh too much if finished and collapse. But we did get a entertaining quote about the open roof.
"Texas Stadium has a hole in its roof, so God can watch His favorite team play" - D.D. Lewis, Cowboys linebacker, 1968-81.
So, how do I say this. Most of these are actually indoor stadiums and not actual “domes.” A dome is an architectural structure that is round. All others are just giant field houses.
It's an terminology thing
Completely unmentioned: In the 50's the first dome almost belonged to the Brooklyn Dodgers, where the Barclays Center sits now. It was scrapped when the city commissioner got into a pissing contest with Walter O'Malley and wanted to force him to move where Shea Stadium stood in Queens. O'Malley called his bluff and left NY altogether with the NY Giants
Doesnt count if it didnt happen
That dictatorial SOB Robert Moses was more responsible for the Dodgers move to LA than O’Malley.
Why Mayor Wagner & Governor Rockefeller didn’t can his sorry, imperial ass, I will never understand!!
Chester's Mill in Maine was a town that got domed by Aliens and Springfield in an unknown state got domed by EPA as well.
It's becoming a relative rarity for NFL teams to build new outdoor stadiums. The most recent one was Levi's Stadium in 2014. Before that, it was MetLife Stadium in 2010. Before that, you have to go all the way back to Lincoln Financial Field in 2003. That means 7 of the 10 most recent new stadiums had either a fixed or retractable roof. The new Buffalo Bill stadiums, opening in 2026, will be the first outdoor stadium in 12 years. Meanwhile, the Tennessee Titans are going with a fixed roof stadium.
Hmm, you forgot Loan Depot Stadium in Miami! 😕
Another reason why Texas Stadium had a hole in the roof was ands I quote "So God can look down and watch America's team"
The United Football League’s New Orleans Breakers should make their home games at Caesars Superdome
What about the igloo civic Arena where the Pittsburgh Penguins use to play? It was a retractable roof. I believe it was the first retractable roof in all of sports.
I excluded arenas from this video, this is specifically about football/baseball venues
We’re getting a new stadium here in Buffalo. Open air ,kinda silly for western NY weather.
What about the Kingdome in Seattle?
The UFL Houston Gamblers and Houston Roughnecks should remain at NRG Stadium with the Texans
Not a huge fan of domed stadiums. Northern teams have a huge advantage in the colder months and it takes away from the real football experience. 🤷🏿
There is def an element of character in a given game that is lost without the weather being involved
There is def an element of character in a given game that is lost without the weather being involved
you forgot Marlins Park, Not only the roof opens the entire wall on the left field too
Philly would never put a roof over their stadiums.
How do you feature domes and not mention Atlantas new dome?
Check out the Pittsburgh Civic Arena.
A lot of people watching this probably had no idea that you're using the original names of the stadiums. 😂
#WoeIsTheSportRightNow!
Titans getting a dome stadium
The Superdome is the last of its kind
Forgot Marlins Loan Depot Park
The big owe in montreal was a disaster
How you going to forget the Mercedes Benz stadium?
Will NASCAR ever get a domed race track?
So we’re just not gonna mention Atlanta lol
And it looks like the Bears are next.
You’re confusing roofs with domes. But it’s not really your fault. Some of the stadiums that are called “dome” are not domes.
What about historical of BC place indoor football stadium that they update there roof from the old air up system but BC Lions need a new stadium
I live in Indiana never been in RCA dome/ Hoosier dome but we are still paying for it. 😂🤣
Doesn't seem fair to call these modern buildings domes when they aren't remotely dome shaped.
Superdome is the best
Took a drink for every time he said dome. Wasted. Number of times we actually saw domes, like 6. Otherwise cool vid.
I like SkyDome the best
SoFi is not considered a dome stadium. The roof is a canopy with open sides.
Wikipedia considers it a dome. But I will admit it is up for debate.
@@dvferyance it’s not. The roof is not attached to the stadium.
@@rspister Tell Wikipedia that. I get your augment but here is the thing if it snot a dome that waht is it? You can't say it's an open air stadium either because it has a roof.
@@dvferyance tell Wikipedia? Sure thing. It’s a stadium with a canopy, which is independent of the stadium.
@@rspister Isn't the Cowboys stadium roof independent from the stadium itself? Would that be a canopy stadium too?
I'd give up a toe for the detroit tigers to have a climate controlled retractable roof stadium
I wish they had never left classic Tiger 🐅 Stadium!
Cleveland should have built a dome instead of The Factory of Sadness
In a way im glad they didnt because domes of the 90s werent very good and theyd probably be complaining for a better one by now
All stadiums should be domes. Better gameplay. Better fan experience.
Boooo. After 'Replay', worst thing to ever happen to sports.