U can also easily set up "modular" backup power this way. Say u branch out 10 power from ur main battery for a turret - just branch out 10 power from another battery and u combine them with the OR switch. This way you can keep the essentians alive for a few more minutes if u mian battery get destroyed/drained and since u can use small batteries they dont take much space
I discovered something on accident. Upon building your obsolete version, I integrated wind and solar into a root combiner for source. Then used a splitter to automatically, & evenly distribute power to 2x primary batteries, using 2 secondaries as back ups in your video. I also integrarted a double generator back up, with force start on both in series should either root source fail, or one gen run out of fuel (giving time to refuel.) Now, somehow I have 220 at both my primaries and 220 at both outputs of secondaries. It charges fast and I hooked up a tesla and it killed me instantly. I tested the same tesla on half the branch at 110, and it wasn't even close. I might just have to make a video on this. But thanks for leading the way! Did I build an amplifier somehow?
i set my new setup similar to this, but i use my root power (solar panels and windmills) to power my base, and then trickle charge my backup batteries, then combine them to the b side through root combiners. the only problemis if I have more then 100 usage, during night time it drains the first battery in my chain instead of distributing the power equally amongst my batteries (i use 4 generally) and usually cap my power usage around 340 end of wipe.
If you want it to draw equally from all batteries you need to run your batteries into a root combiner rather than in series from one battery into the other
Amazing video as always Austin, just wondering your thoughts on still using the nih core with the new electrical changes. I tweaked the branch that goes into the splitter from 4 to 3 and rigged up a 2 batteries for extra protection. Just want to see your thoughts and see if there is a more efficient way.
I'm currently working on a new video that discusses the nih core against the power loop against just straight batteries to give info on that exact question
I play on a community server that is 90% vanilla but has a few extras, like the test gen. I don't even use batteries now except for small bats for turrets.
so to my mind now the circuitboard becomes the most important thing to secure from raiders - do you have any "rules of thumb" for protecting your circuits in a raid?
I agree. The two safest options are in the tc room or strategically placed in a hidden bunker that's not in the most common raid paths. If you have a solid anti grief setup, the bunker is a better idea, considering you will likely get your base back. If you don't have anti grief, the tc room is fine (if they get to your tc, it's over anyway).
You could also split off some of your main power and trickle charge batteries linked into each other and then use those as an output if your mains go down
I need to figure out for myself here how to use this to draw from a windmill directly and have it fail over to the batter if the power drops under a value. I've always felt the battery itself should be the backup.
all well and good until you rather have everything on a NihCore setup and require more than 100rWm, they really need to fix that Parallel battery setup bug draining both batteries of the same rWm for each item.
Help me understand something. How are you branching 140 from one solar panel to the red battery if its only got 1 solar panel hooked up to it? If we are only allowed to have ten solar panels per TC how could you have each battery with one solar panel hooked up to it and dishing out 140 to the red battery at the same time? Are you running three windmills to the primary and 1 solar panel to each battery after that? And with all that Equpment your base you'd only have 100 power to give to the base?
Is it still possible to place a turret down that seperates power and that seperated power goes into a backup battery and then this backup battery is connected to OR switch?
Hey, so first off, not a RUST player, but for some reason I've gone down the RUST TH-cam Rabbit hole. Just wanted to say on your 10x example I feel you made the tree way overly complicated. Keep your 10 switches across the bottom. But put 1 OR gate above the gap in between *every* 2 switches. Not every other, in between every 2. Far left switch runs to OR 1 Primary 2nd Switch runs to OR 1 Secondary OR 1 Output runs to OR 2 Primary (so up, right, down, and into the bottom of the next one) 3rd switch runs to OR 2 Secondary. OR 2 Output runs to OR3 Primary Now you just repeat this pattern to N and you don't need to "tree" the outputs at all. You also end up with N-1 OR gates, which for 10 in your example is 9, and your example already has 9. Thinking of another Base 2 tree, 16 inputs, you need 8+4+2+1 OR gates, well that's still 15, so still N-1. Lastly, since Input 1 on the far left starts as Primary, and the Output of each earlier OR gate is the Primary of the next one, it still runs in your left to right pattern as far as battery depletion goes. This thinner pattern also means you can put them on the wall above the Batteries to save space.
Is it possible to switch to Input power only when it meets specific output? Lets say my base needs 200 power to run, but at this moment its early morning and solar outputting only 160, is it possible to run base from batteries until output from solar is 200 or more?
You can use Left Click when aimed at a wire connection to isolate the wire. Very useful for tracing wires. You can also change the color of the wire to whatever is selected in the color wheel by pressing the R key.
I don't understand why you made such a huge point about batteries needing to be equal sizes when that's irrelevant to this. If your circuit has a load of 40 and you use a medium and a large, it works. The large gets drained first and then the medium takes over when the large is depleted. The only time sizes need to be equal is if the max draw exceeds one of the batteries. If you're drawing 70 and the medium kicks over, whatever is using the last 20 energy doesn't get any, but the backup is sill functional.
You are correct, but I purposely didn't cover that in this video to avoid confusion. And a battery backup should be the same size to, as you stated, avoid the primary exceeding the secondary.
Sorry for the late reply (vacation). Unfortunately no, as of the current update, this particular build will not work on console until its respective update comes out.
His explanations are as branched as his electrical diagrams. Starts to explain a point, branches off to explain something else, then branches off again, and again, and again. Difficult to follow along.
if your brain works as a small battery with one broken solar panel just rewatch the video enough time for you to learn all the rust watts in this video. it seems pretty easy to follow for me, he does great examples, simple cable management and components placement for the viewer to understand what he's doing.
Being able to articulate ideas for an audience has nothing to do with the in game mechanics. These concepts are easy to understand. The narration, not so much. @@malclaire
*DUDE, YOU HAVE GOT TO STOP THIS NONSENSE...THERE IS NO "POWER META," ALL YOU NEED IS A LARGE BATTERY WITH 120 POWER COMING IN TO HAVE A PERMANENT 100 POWER OUTPUT WITH 4 HOURS 30 MINUTES OF RESERVE POWER. YOU DO THAT FOR EACH BATTERY AND YOU'RE DONE. THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR CHANNEL ARE VIDEOS ABOUT POWER THAT MAKE NO PRACTICAL SENSE.*
@@klutch4198 Because at this point it's actually offensive how many identical videos he has posted. "Powerlooping", NihCores, and clickbait is all he posts and they're irrelevant. You can have 24/7 power with a single large battery and a windmill. You can wire batteries in series without an and/or switch to extend your battery backup time, but you DO NOT need the circuits he shows to do this which only drain power (before the update).
@@blankspace178 lol your an idiot if you don’t like you vids or think this is nonsense don’t f***ing watch and just so you know all his vids are amazingly done and have fully helped a lot of people understand electronics in rust so stfu and take your unwanted negativity somewhere else buddy
The QoL updates are sooo good now, maintaining my electric cave saves so much power now and getting my backup gennies wired was such a breeze
U can also easily set up "modular" backup power this way.
Say u branch out 10 power from ur main battery for a turret - just branch out 10 power from another battery and u combine them with the OR switch.
This way you can keep the essentians alive for a few more minutes if u mian battery get destroyed/drained and since u can use small batteries they dont take much space
I discovered something on accident. Upon building your obsolete version, I integrated wind and solar into a root combiner for source. Then used a splitter to automatically, & evenly distribute power to 2x primary batteries, using 2 secondaries as back ups in your video. I also integrarted a double generator back up, with force start on both in series should either root source fail, or one gen run out of fuel (giving time to refuel.) Now, somehow I have 220 at both my primaries and 220 at both outputs of secondaries. It charges fast and I hooked up a tesla and it killed me instantly. I tested the same tesla on half the branch at 110, and it wasn't even close. I might just have to make a video on this. But thanks for leading the way! Did I build an amplifier somehow?
I just frigged up a battery backup in my base. Need this new knowledge to make me feel better
SUBSCRIBED for the immaculate wiring. Sooooo smooth
Thanks!
i set my new setup similar to this, but i use my root power (solar panels and windmills) to power my base, and then trickle charge my backup batteries, then combine them to the b side through root combiners. the only problemis if I have more then 100 usage, during night time it drains the first battery in my chain instead of distributing the power equally amongst my batteries (i use 4 generally) and usually cap my power usage around 340 end of wipe.
If you want it to draw equally from all batteries you need to run your batteries into a root combiner rather than in series from one battery into the other
Love this was just testing a 8 batt loop today lol 4 main and 4 backup have to try this but running though a nih core 😅
Amazing video as always Austin, just wondering your thoughts on still using the nih core with the new electrical changes. I tweaked the branch that goes into the splitter from 4 to 3 and rigged up a 2 batteries for extra protection. Just want to see your thoughts and see if there is a more efficient way.
I'm currently working on a new video that discusses the nih core against the power loop against just straight batteries to give info on that exact question
@@AustinKlailaGames Oh that's awesome, looking forward to it!
great stuff, per usual!
thanks!
Does the new update bring any changes to the niH circuit?
I too wish to know if this changes the Nih Core
Yeah the only change is that you set the branch to 3 not 4 now it would still work just saves a rust watt
I play on a community server that is 90% vanilla but has a few extras, like the test gen. I don't even use batteries now except for small bats for turrets.
so to my mind now the circuitboard becomes the most important thing to secure from raiders - do you have any "rules of thumb" for protecting your circuits in a raid?
I agree. The two safest options are in the tc room or strategically placed in a hidden bunker that's not in the most common raid paths.
If you have a solid anti grief setup, the bunker is a better idea, considering you will likely get your base back. If you don't have anti grief, the tc room is fine (if they get to your tc, it's over anyway).
Can you please talk about how you actually connected the wind turbine.
You could also split off some of your main power and trickle charge batteries linked into each other and then use those as an output if your mains go down
Yep, you certainly could. This is probably the route most people would take
I need to figure out for myself here how to use this to draw from a windmill directly and have it fail over to the batter if the power drops under a value. I've always felt the battery itself should be the backup.
i just see, feels good, but understand nothing by my lo english XD. Nice vids
all well and good until you rather have everything on a NihCore setup and require more than 100rWm, they really need to fix that Parallel battery setup bug draining both batteries of the same rWm for each item.
Help me understand something. How are you branching 140 from one solar panel to the red battery if its only got 1 solar panel hooked up to it? If we are only allowed to have ten solar panels per TC how could you have each battery with one solar panel hooked up to it and dishing out 140 to the red battery at the same time? Are you running three windmills to the primary and 1 solar panel to each battery after that? And with all that Equpment your base you'd only have 100 power to give to the base?
Awesomely done!
Thanks!
I've been doing this since electric came out but I was using blockers with electrical branch to daisy chain the batteries
Nice. That would also work.
Is it still possible to place a turret down that seperates power and that seperated power goes into a backup battery and then this backup battery is connected to OR switch?
Great explanation of how to get the circuit setup
Glad it was helpful!
Hey, so first off, not a RUST player, but for some reason I've gone down the RUST TH-cam Rabbit hole.
Just wanted to say on your 10x example I feel you made the tree way overly complicated.
Keep your 10 switches across the bottom.
But put 1 OR gate above the gap in between *every* 2 switches. Not every other, in between every 2.
Far left switch runs to OR 1 Primary
2nd Switch runs to OR 1 Secondary
OR 1 Output runs to OR 2 Primary (so up, right, down, and into the bottom of the next one)
3rd switch runs to OR 2 Secondary.
OR 2 Output runs to OR3 Primary
Now you just repeat this pattern to N and you don't need to "tree" the outputs at all.
You also end up with N-1 OR gates, which for 10 in your example is 9, and your example already has 9.
Thinking of another Base 2 tree, 16 inputs, you need 8+4+2+1 OR gates, well that's still 15, so still N-1.
Lastly, since Input 1 on the far left starts as Primary, and the Output of each earlier OR gate is the Primary of the next one, it still runs in your left to right pattern as far as battery depletion goes.
This thinner pattern also means you can put them on the wall above the Batteries to save space.
Sweet! UPS!
Yes!
Is it possible to switch to Input power only when it meets specific output? Lets say my base needs 200 power to run, but at this moment its early morning and solar outputting only 160, is it possible to run base from batteries until output from solar is 200 or more?
Would this be recommended for a circuit demanding 250 power constantly?
How do you build battery backup if you have 12 turrets. I built this but it only outputs 100V and thats only enough for 8 turrets?
great video dude!
thanks!
Can you redo the Nihm for the new update? Be cool to have it running mainly off windmill but switch to Battery when wind dropped
Here you go: th-cam.com/video/mceOAS3qt3Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CQBxqHTWXrYocG_W
@AustinKlailaGames appreciate that, my friend!
Can I build this on console ?
The nih core and dual battery can be able to setup together? Or doesn’t need it?
I'll be releasing a detailed nih core video once the May update is released that will cover this topic!
What key are hitting to just see one wire?
You can use Left Click when aimed at a wire connection to isolate the wire. Very useful for tracing wires. You can also change the color of the wire to whatever is selected in the color wheel by pressing the R key.
I don't understand why you made such a huge point about batteries needing to be equal sizes when that's irrelevant to this.
If your circuit has a load of 40 and you use a medium and a large, it works. The large gets drained first and then the medium takes over when the large is depleted.
The only time sizes need to be equal is if the max draw exceeds one of the batteries. If you're drawing 70 and the medium kicks over, whatever is using the last 20 energy doesn't get any, but the backup is sill functional.
You are correct, but I purposely didn't cover that in this video to avoid confusion. And a battery backup should be the same size to, as you stated, avoid the primary exceeding the secondary.
@@AustinKlailaGames Cheers man. Still a good video.
Or... just bear with me. Simply run the batteries in series to double your capacity without all of the redundant switches.
Yeah it's over for PC. but it's still very much relevant for us peasants on console rust.😢
Will this work in console rust
Sorry for the late reply (vacation). Unfortunately no, as of the current update, this particular build will not work on console until its respective update comes out.
@@AustinKlailaGames what about with the new industrial update that make switches n branches not take power
@@marcoromero411 Then it should! I'll have to see what the console update includes.
@Austin Klaila games please do a tutorial on Tesla coils nobody has done done one since they came out and they are trash videos
Alright, I'll get one out for you.
Why are 10 batteries ridiculous? My bases have 10 batteries as primary power minimum.
Well, then I stand corrected lol
I don’t understand this 😂
I swear I thought I was the only one
His explanations are as branched as his electrical diagrams. Starts to explain a point, branches off to explain something else, then branches off again, and again, and again. Difficult to follow along.
Not sure what you mean lol, seems clear enough to me.
if your brain works as a small battery with one broken solar panel just rewatch the video enough time for you to learn all the rust watts in this video. it seems pretty easy to follow for me, he does great examples, simple cable management and components placement for the viewer to understand what he's doing.
You need to learn basics more I believe.
Not trying to be mean, but he is a little advanced for most people.
Being able to articulate ideas for an audience has nothing to do with the in game mechanics. These concepts are easy to understand. The narration, not so much. @@malclaire
I love it, otherwise I wouldn't love Rust's electricity
*DUDE, YOU HAVE GOT TO STOP THIS NONSENSE...THERE IS NO "POWER META," ALL YOU NEED IS A LARGE BATTERY WITH 120 POWER COMING IN TO HAVE A PERMANENT 100 POWER OUTPUT WITH 4 HOURS 30 MINUTES OF RESERVE POWER. YOU DO THAT FOR EACH BATTERY AND YOU'RE DONE. THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR CHANNEL ARE VIDEOS ABOUT POWER THAT MAKE NO PRACTICAL SENSE.*
then start your own channel, whats up with all caps homie? goddamn lol
@@klutch4198 Because at this point it's actually offensive how many identical videos he has posted. "Powerlooping", NihCores, and clickbait is all he posts and they're irrelevant. You can have 24/7 power with a single large battery and a windmill. You can wire batteries in series without an and/or switch to extend your battery backup time, but you DO NOT need the circuits he shows to do this which only drain power (before the update).
@@blankspace178 lol your an idiot if you don’t like you vids or think this is nonsense don’t f***ing watch and just so you know all his vids are amazingly done and have fully helped a lot of people understand electronics in rust so stfu and take your unwanted negativity somewhere else buddy
There are plenty of other things you can click on. Be less rude.
@@blankspace178you wire your batteries in series?
Having a copy of this circuit in Rustrician would really help seeing the entire circuit setup.
I wish I had the time to get those put together, sorry dude