I’m pretty sure once you’ve had a c-section it’s not recommended to have a home birth because there is a high chance of needing another c-section. So it’s smarter for her to have her in the hospital.
Not accurate at all. I had my 1 via c section and then have had 4 following as vaginal deliveries. You don’t have a high chance of having to have a c section just because you’ve had 1 previously
@@loriee20861 I am glad you were able to birth your children as you wished, but you are only one data point. Your personal experience does not negate medical data and statistics.
Gia Barrone Uterine rupture increases with each successive c-section, but VBACs are totally safe and Michelle had lots of them. I’ve heard many home birth VBAC success stories.
Gideon was a csection. Considering this delivery is a VBAC, and her first full term VBAC, it wouldn’t be very smart to attempt a home birth. Honestly thinking about it, more of their grandchildren have been hospital births.
Yes, most of their grandkids have been born in hospitals that’s where Mrs. Duggar had all her 19 kids. Even the ones who tried a home birth usually had to be transported during labor or after birth for some reason or another like Joy I can’t remember the last one to have a home birth. I don’t see home birth as a Duggar tradition.
@@annabethlovesyou4091 Only Jessa seems to be a confirmed home-birther, even with her tendency to bleed heavily after delivery. And Michelle had a number of her kids at home.
A lot of people choose home birth too because of negative hospital experiences. Or a fear of not being respected as an autonomous being. Women deserve to have complete sovereignty over their body and should give birth wherever and however they want and be active participants in the decision making process should their first plan need to be modified.
Healthy mom, healthy baby is first priority. Joy is high risk because of her previous emergency c-section and her early miscarriage. She should do what her doctors tell her to do to achieve that end
Proud to have chosen home birth for safety, comfort, and personalized quality care. Let’s not shame moms for how they choose to birth their babies, whether it be in a hospital, in the water, or at home.
....which goes out of the window when you're in that kind of pain. Been there. But to each her own..But so many things could go wrong with home birth. Again, to each her own
I’ve had two horrible hospital deliveries and one at home which was the best decision I ever made. The reason she’s having a hospital delivery is because of everything that’s happened with Gideon and her last baby. If these situations hadn’t occurred I’m sure she’d have stayed at home.
"As planned, Duggar went into labor at home, but after 20 grueling hours, her midwife determined the baby was breech and she was rushed to the hospital where she underwent an emergency C-section." took it from today.com
Without A Crystal Ball she attempted home birth, but actually had Gideon at the hospital. www.intouchweekly.com/posts/joy-anna-duggar-hospital-birth-austin-forsyth-baby-154831/
Without A Crystal Ball she was saying she never packed a hospital bag because they attempted to him at home after 19 hours of labor her midwife finally realized the baby was breech and she ended up going to the hospital for a csection . th-cam.com/video/1Ln3vNzRS8A/w-d-xo.html
Giving birth at home isn't a financial discussion. I gave birth at home and trust me I could afford to go to the hospital but didn't. It was a really good experience and is becoming more popular
I didn't say that it was a financial decision. My comment was in response to the suggestion that Jessa held out at home over money. The decision should be about personal preference not money. That was my point.
You should actually watch the show! It was a big deal that Joy had a c-section because it can limit how many children she can have. For someone who may want 10 kids it’s a big deal.
ale orozco Not necessarily. Jana and John David were delivered by C-Section, Michelle then had Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joseph, Josiah, Jeddidiah, Jerimiah, Jason, James Justin- without C-Section. Jackson was a c-section. Johanna and Jennifer were not c-sections. Jordyn and Josie were c-sections. It all depends on the person, how the c-section heals, what doctor you have and what they think is best for the patient.
It is showing that Katie Joy doesn’t really watch the shows she thinks is okay to criticize!! Not knowing Joy Anna had her baby c-section is not possible if she really watched the show!!!! Do you watch the shows or just get the highlights? Which way is it?? Secondly, it is only a Duggar tradition because Katie Joy said so, only Katie!!!! Is she jealous that some of the woman were able to have home births and she couldn’t stand the pain! Or it it a religious cult thing to have home births?? Which way, Katie? Very hard to understand when you are speaking out on both sides! Please watch the shows, you are insulting your audience when we know way more than you!
JOY & HER HUSBAND ARE PROBABLY WANTING A HOSPITAL BIRTH BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS C-SECTION & IN THE BACK OF HER MIND SHE FEELS MORE COMFORTABLE AFTER HER 2 BABY. AND EVEN IF HER M9M, SISTERS, & INLAWS GET 2 SEE THE BABY THROUGH THE WINDOW IT WOULD EASE HER MIND. AFTER ALL THIS IS HER (3rd) BABY.PRAYING 4 ALL🙏
So in an early episode of counting on they go on to explain after they take Johanna to a plastic surgeon for a cut on her face that they have insurance for life because Jim Bob was a state representative in Arkansas. In fact I kind of suspect that might be one of the reasons why he ran for that position. As for the kids I don’t know but I think one of the reasons that the quiver full movement encourages Home birth is because they think that the medical community is being hostile towards them when they say you know maybe don’t have a baby every year
I don’t know why anyone would refer to a home birth as a “Duggar tradition.” I haven’t heard that anyone has been shunned for using modern medicine. And personally, I don’t see chiropractic care as “holistic.” Whether you give birth in stirrups surrounded by medical staff, or in your tub at home, lower back and hip alignment helps.
Sounds like she's attempting a VBAC so being in hospital is a safer option. 🤷🏼♀️ But I don't understand why homebirth is so frowned upon, I would have loved to be at home if I could have. Especially now with a pandemic, I would hate to be birthing in hospital. Midwives are necessary healthcare practitioners and we should be training more of them.
In my state, if you have a csection, you have to have at least 1 vbac. I started ott having a home birth with my first but needed intervention so went to hospital for C-section, 2nd I had a successful vbac at hospital, and I'm due with my 3rd any day and having a home birth ( hopefully). All with a certified nurse midwife. We are 10 minutes from the hospital and in her 40 years as a midwife has never lost a a mother or baby because of complications at home because she knows when intervention is needed
I find the term "natural childbirth" very offensive and misleading. Just because you give birth in a hospital and have an epidural or pain meds doesn't mean you're still not naturally giving birth. I wonder who came up with that term. It leads women to think there is something "unnatural" or wrong about giving birth with the help of modern medicine. And there is _nothing_ wrong with it. It also tends to encourage some women who gave birth without pain relief to wear it as some badge of honor. And some (not all) of these women act like they are better than women who have epidurals. You're not any better! You just decided to experience pain that isn't necessary. Good for you, but you aren't better or more noble than any other woman. Have your baby in the way that is best for you and your child, but don't delude yourself into thinking that a painful childbirth with the _choice_ of no relief makes you better than any other woman. It really doesn't. Sorry.
YES YES YES! Women need to support each other and we have to understand that whatever is safest/healthiest for mom and baby is best whether it is birthing, breastfeeding/bottle feeding, cloth diapers/disposable diapers, etc.
I had 2 “natural” births....if I had a 3rd it would definitely be unnatural! LOL I received no medals and my friends who had epidurals had children of equal health and intelligence. By all means if a woman wants to challenge herself and have a non medicated birth that’s great...but epidurals sound pretty great too
I tend to think of natural birth as a vaginal birth in that it's how nature created our bodies to deliver babies. There is nothing wrong with using meds, hospitals,or c section, etc. The fact is somehow people starting equating natural with better. Birth can have a "natural" course without meaning better it's just what naturally occurs it shouldn't be offensive but I can understand why people could think that. I try to now say vaginal or cesarean, medicated or unmedicated instead of using the term natural for this reason. But truly all natural means is the way God or Biology created it to be for thousand upon thounsands of years not better.
I had my baby via a scheduled csection. I have been told I'm not a real mom since I didn't go through labor . The csection was planned because of a medical condition that I have that could cause my blood pressure to sky rocket and me going into crisis and that would have been horrible for the both of us
My mom has had 7 kids and she hated being in the hospital. She even decided to have my youngest sibling at home with a midwife because she didn’t like the hospital vibe. Also more intimate.
I will never birth in a hospital again. I had my eldest in hospital because I wasn't in a position to home birth and its the most traumatic birth I've had. A lot of what I asked for was ignored, I feel like they played on the fact I was so young. Every birth I've had at home has gone perfectly with no complications at all.
I'm glad she actually is planning on going to the hospital this time since she's high risk. Gideon was in the hospital. After 20 hours they figured out he was breech and was an emergency C-section
Good for her for making the choice she’s most comfortable with. I had my first in the hospital and if I am able to get pregnant again I will have a home birth.
I’m not sure if it’s just for those trying to do natural but I went to the Chiropractor all throughout my pregnancy and it helped so much in labor. I also loved the epidural when it worked.
Who said it was a tradition to have a home birth for the Duggar girls.Lost of women opt from having their babies somewhere other the a traditional hospital and it has nothing to do with their religion or insurance
Haven't had cable in years- now have it. Went to finally watch a new episode of counting on and the thunderstorm wouldn't allow me. 😂😂😂😂😂 Thank God we have your commentary to keep up. Lol
The Bates family also has 19 kids and were all singles. Michelle had 2 sets of twins. Jill had C-Sections. Joy "planned homebirth" and ended up with a C-Section. Anna had her first 2 at home, Marcus was at a Birth Center/Water Birth. Jessa was transported to the hospital with her 1st & 3rd. She didn't bleed with Henry.
I dont have kids yet but I plan on having home births. I am mortified of hospitals. Ive had family die from mistakes at a hospital and I personally have almost died because of mistakes at hospitals. For me having a hospital birth would be a nightmare. I would be freaked out the whole time and that is not what birth should be. So to each, their own and no one should judge what people decide to do.
I labored naturally both times. The doctor on call threatened to cut me open if I didn’t get an epidural, I got one at 9cm and it didn’t work. I was up and walking right after they cleaned me up. They gave me all the meds. I was pissed but the nurses said it was natural anyway. They freaked cause it didn’t work and I was walking
I’m 37 and I have a 3 and a 2 yr old. I admire any woman that has more than 1. If my second child would have been my first, she would have been the only.
I don't understand why in America you pay to have a baby in hospital?? I guess I take it for granted living in Australia its free & a right for everyone to have Health Care .
It seems that the Duggar girls are tending to go for Home Births whilst the daughter in laws are going for hospital births (except for Anna but she was the first Duggar-in-law so I’m not surprised if she’s more brainwashed than the rest or if it’s a bi-product of the time she married into the family, back when the Duggar’s were even stricter and all the girls had the same crunchy hair). Jinger went for a hospital birth but she’s far from Jim-Bobs sway. I do think that Jill and Jessa were encouraged by their parents to home birth (as shown by the fact that they laboured at home until they were literally forced to go to the hospital) and I think it must have something to do with frugalness. Michelle wouldn’t have gone for a hospital birth if she had a choice-they started to label her high risk somewhere around the tenth pregnancy
For Jill, at the time Israel was born in Mar(?) 2015 (and possibly at their wedding in June 2014) Derick had an office job at their local Walmart, so he might've had insurance at the time their oldest son was born. As far as the rest of them, they might have a Christian Mutual Aide type of health insurance, unless someone has a job that provides health insurance? (I hadn't thought about it in years, but yeah Josie's months long stay in the NICU...I think she was born Dec 2009 but had been due Mar 2010... o.O...had to have cost JB & M a pretty penny back then, so no wonder they signed onto TLC to do 19 Kids.., as a regular show.)
A lot of Christians have insurance through good Samaritan... Basically everyone pays in to the ministry and when a medical need arises they pay a good portion of the bills. It's actually a pretty cool system.
what tradition? it's not a tradition to do home births. they can choose what they want. michelle, jill, kendra, jinger, lauren and abbie all had hospital births. jessa planned on a hospital birth with ivy but her labor went so fast there was no time and her midwife was out of town because they didn't think she would go into labor for 2 more weeks
I'd definitely want to go to the hospital because it's better to be safe than sorry. Not just because of what happened last year with Annabelle, but also because Joy had difficulty delivering Gideon and he honestly ended up being SUCH a big baby at ten pounds. I mean, both my aunt when she had my two cousins and my mother had to have c-sections because my cousins and I were each respectively nine pounds and however many inches when we were born.
I had both mine natural and in the hospital. The ONLY thing that matters when having a babyis healthy mom and baby. No matter how you get there that is the goal. Those mama's and babies that don't make it are the most special of all.
I googled Jim Bobs whole family is worth 3.5 million. Altogether. But one rag magazine said Jesse & Ben barely makes ends meet they disagreed saying they are worth 400,000
I would not think that Joy would be allowed to have an epidural given that she had a C section last full-term delivery. There is usually a "trial by scar" period during labour where the scar from your C section is 'tested' to see if it will stand up to labour. An epidural would not alert the mother/medical staff to this happening whereas experiencing a big increase in pain would. At least that's how midwives do it in the UK.
Oh I forget hospital isn’t free in the USA In Australia can have a birth for free unless you use an ambulance that has a cost or you go private hospital
Joy did not have Giddeon at home. She tried for like 40ish hours and nothing was happening so she went to the hospital where they found out he was breech so she had an emergency C section.
The Bates girls seem to have hospital births with epidural and all(accept Alyssa). Giedeon was a c section after an attempted home birth, Jinger had Felicity at the Hospital with an epidural. Jessa always home births and ends up being rushed to hospital due to bleeding !
I doubt that she was ‘ditching’ the ‘usual Duggar home birth plans” or just felt more comfortable doing a V-bac in a hospital. Since there is always a chance of the uterus tearing or rupturing during a V-bac, even in a hospital, it’s really good to be close to an operating room where they can do an emergent C Section if anything goes wrong.
Omg. I just saw a commercial for counting on. And it looks like 2 of the boys get to move out!!! Wtf that’s not fair for Jana!!! She should be able to have her own place!!
It's always wild to me to see people get very attached to their birth plans even in the face of emergency. Out of all 5 of my kids only one went to plan it ranged the whole spectrum from no intervention, to changed the life of a training paramedic as I gave birth in the ambulance, all the way to almost died. They really need to learn to prioritize their ideal vision of what's happening versus their best option.
It's terrible when women are shamed for using safe and effective pain management during labor. I mean, if your baby was born and the doctor said it was having an issue and in lots of pain wouldn't you allow them to give your baby safe and effective medicine to help ease that pain if possible? People should do what they want but choosing an epidural does not in any way diminish the beautiful accomplishment of giving birth.
The reason they want them to have home birth is because the can film it!! MANY hospitals will not let film crews in due to sanitation, patient privacy, and just general safety. Jim Bob wants it filmed, and the best way to do that is to have it at home
The reason it's such a big deal for Joy Anna and the girls to be having hospital births is it shows they are breaking away from their c*lt mentality. And they'll have to balance negotiations with the controlling parents to keep relations there. Bill Gothard and his material heavily pushed home birth and turned it into a morality/shame thing. Like you could suffer SERIOUS status loss in the hierarchy (IBLP) for not toeing the party line. So good for Joy Anna for working on breaking out, but I also feel for her and the stress she must be under with her parents...I see that look in her eyes, and I wish her all the best.
There is nothing wrong with natural healthcare like chiropractic or giving birth at home if you're not high risk. I respect the Duggars for at least trying. It's also pretty expensive to choose home birth if you have insurance. I was quoted $3000. I chose not too because I was 39, have very little tolerance for pain, and lived in an apartment at the time my son was born. I can't imagine an apartment home birth. I think it's the way to go if you can. I only wish I had seen the chiropractor more throughout my pregnancy.
At this time during the pandemic, I would probably opt for a home birth IF I could and everything was ok and I had a certified mid wife who was able to help me at home. Before the pandemic I would have never considered it but in my state, both people who I know who have had their babies were not allowed to even have their husbands with them immediately after the birth. It’s sad.
It called personal choice for many people. Obviously if they have a high risk pregnancy there is less choice. I don't think the Duggar's are against hospital birth for most part, I just think home birth from what many say is alot more pleasant.
My first one I was all ready 8 centimeters by the time I reach the hospital (he was quick 3 hours) so no meds for me. Baby 2 I had meds and boy what a difference. In my opinion why go through all that pain when you can have meds to help.
It would not shock me that Michelle & Jim Bob have a say on how this will happen especially since they feel the need to show them giving birth on national tv- when a woman is at a very vulnerable stage! I’m really over the whole Duggar thing!
God she should be glad Michelle isn’t going to be there-she was absolutely useless when Jessa had Spurgeon and started bleeding really badly and an ambulance had to be called. She could hardly remember how old Jessa was when the 911 caller asked!
I love your Duggar updates! So I'm actually curious (I didn't watch 19 and counting) where the Duggar association with home birth came from? We know the majority of them have had hospital births including Michelle having at least some there so was there ever a statement by them to say they only believed in home birth or didn't believe in hospitals? I'm kinda confused about that... I def think Joy Anna will avoid an epidural if possible because she has tried a natural birth before, but since a few Duggar girls have done it maybe she'll be persuaded. I doubt she had an option given the fact that she had an emergency c section and late miscarriage prior. Also side note of my personal opinion I wouldn't really consider going to the chiropractor holistic but maybe that's just me. I feel like a lot of pregnant women go to be aligned and prepared. 🤷♀️ I personally don't have insurance but I've always wanted a home birth anyway and am not in any way religious like them. People are different and there's nothing wrong with a home birth or birth center or a hospital birth as long as you get to choose what's best for you and your baby.
I have great insurance through my employer and it still cost a small fortune when I had my son and if I were to have another baby my out of pocket cost would double.
I love how Gideon kept saying Hi for a while after he was told to say Hi. I though Joy Anna had an accident where she hurt her back and that is why she see a chiropractor Oh for some reason I though that Katie had a mini-me daughter.
I’m in Canada so we don’t have to pay. I felt more comfortable having mine in the hospital. My first one, I had an epidural and it didn’t work. For my last two I chose natural which I was fine with.
i went into labor and everyone freaked out i didnt feel anything but the machine was peaking and i was almost 10 centimeters. so i didnt have pain meds unfortunately there were other complications and i technically died on the operating table after he was born he also only took three breathes and was gone. i cant have any more but its ok. I can take care of my niece and nephews.😊
@@littleflame5530 Of course you do! I'm glad you've found a way to get thru it and go on. It's hard for me to see how your huge losses are "for the best", though. Needless to say, I struggle with accepting what "is" sometimes. Huge losses for you ..
I was able to go natural with both of my kids. My first labor was 36 hours and my second was about 24. I'm not usually good with pain but somehow I was able to do it.
Yeah I agree definitely doesn't holistic to me. Everyone I know goes. I actually want a home birth (not pregnant) and don't go lol bc I dont have insurance.
I think she planned a home birth for Gideon but had to be transferred to the hospital when Jill realized that the baby was breached. I think she had a c-section for Gideon.
I don't understand the fascination with having so many people in the birth room. Why would you want your mom and sisters in the room? With me, I felt there was too many people in my room with my then husband, the nurses, the interns, the doctors etc.
I applaud anyone that has a natural child birth! My epidural wore off about 1 hour before I had my son I've never felt such pain before and will never again feel it again. As far as a home birth in my opinion it's not safe anything could go wrong.
I think it's crazy not to avail oneself of the pain relief offered by modern medicine during one of the most painful events in a woman's life. I wouldn't have a broken arm set "naturally," and I wouldn't have heart surgery "naturally." LOL
I mean, with my daughter, they hit a nerve when they did my epidural. I had a chronic migraine for three months after. It seriously never fully went away, and I got brushed off for the entire three months. I also hated not being able to walk around before the labor got to be too severe. I ended up having a c-section, which... I actually recovered from devoid of pain meds. They gave me opiates, and I have a weird genetic abnormality where they don't alleviate pain at ALL and just get me high... And not a fun high. I hallucinated. I wouldn't take them after I got home. Absolutely no difference in pain, but I was definitely more clear minded. So I definitely wanted to avoid both with my son. Somehow, I managed to only labor for five and a half hours, and sleep through three hours of that. So by the time we got to the hospital, there wasn't TIME to get any pain relief. I had him an hour after getting there. They basically had time to get my name and tell me to push. Lol. I DEFINITELY don't fault someone for choosing pain meds. Labor SUCKS, and if you respond correctly to them, the meds are VERY relieving. Even speaking of practicality instead of comfort, they let you get some rest before pushing! But after the experiences with my daughter vs my son, if we have a third, I'm definitely going to try to go natural again. It sucks at the time, but I've found the recovery is much better for me. So I wouldn't say it's silly or virtue signaling or anything like that to go WITHOUT pain relief.
Jesse and Ben have been talking about adoption since before they got married. I've wondered when they'd have time since they're cranking out bio kids pretty regularly.
I found hospital births to be very uncomfortable, unpleasant and invasive. They don't let you do what you want to do. They make you lay on your back and strap monitors to you. I wanted to labor in the bathtub and they wouldn't let me. I opted to have my 4th child at home, but this freaked out my family so we found a birthing center and the experience was amazing. I wouldn't do it any other way. The Duggars have so much experience giving birth that they don't necessarily need assistance. I'm not saying hospitals are bad. I recommend hospitals if you're inexperienced with birth.
Joy Anna didn’t have Gideon at home. She tried to deliver at home but she wouldn’t progress and ended up at the hospital she needed an emergency c-section
Here is a wild thought.. What about realllllllllllllllllly breaking tradition and getting a college degree! I think one of those kids should go to school and NOT go right from being a kid to having kids. I would consider myself a failure of a parent if I didn't drive home the point of getting a good education.
Wow You look very pretty. I like your site. You do a good job! I like the Bates. But not the way the Duggar Parents, how they control their kids, and grandkids.
It’s cheaper at home, but Joy Anna miscarried last child. JimBob and Michelle let twin boys leave home. Seems like JB is learning to let go and Let God. JB sees his elder children making their own way. I think he doesn’t wish to lose them, but grown children are choosing to lose him...for now.
They probably have health sharing coverage through Medishare or Christian Healthcare Miniseries. They have great coverage but it’s just very different than insurance.
Jessa made the stupidest decision to continue home birthing despite constantly experiencing major bleeding. She’s putting herself and her baby at risk to uphold ‘tradition’
It's more than that. Fundies take a literal interpretation of the Bible and see pain related to child birth as a direct consequence of the fall of man as outlined in Genesis.
She's so young.. I know that people can have kids at different ages. It's just that me and my friends are 28-31 and none of us or people of our age that we know have kids. So when I see young mothers I'm always so shocked because they look not fare from being kids themselves.
I think Gideon was definitely a Csection. She did labor at home but ultimately ended up needing an emergency delivery. Vbacks are certainly possible if followed closely by doctors who agree with the want to do so but coming from me I’ve had 4 Csections and after the first it was just safer for me. Everyone is different though so just wish them the very best anyway.
I’m pretty sure once you’ve had a c-section it’s not recommended to have a home birth because there is a high chance of needing another c-section. So it’s smarter for her to have her in the hospital.
Yep!
There is an increased risk of uterine rupture. That is an emergency that requires immediate surgery.
Not accurate at all. I had my 1 via c section and then have had 4 following as vaginal deliveries. You don’t have a high chance of having to have a c section just because you’ve had 1 previously
@@loriee20861 I am glad you were able to birth your children as you wished, but you are only one data point. Your personal experience does not negate medical data and statistics.
Gia Barrone Uterine rupture increases with each successive c-section, but VBACs are totally safe and Michelle had lots of them. I’ve heard many home birth VBAC success stories.
Gideon was a csection. Considering this delivery is a VBAC, and her first full term VBAC, it wouldn’t be very smart to attempt a home birth. Honestly thinking about it, more of their grandchildren have been hospital births.
Yes, most of their grandkids have been born in hospitals that’s where Mrs. Duggar had all her 19 kids. Even the ones who tried a home birth usually had to be transported during labor or after birth for some reason or another like Joy I can’t remember the last one to have a home birth. I don’t see home birth as a Duggar tradition.
@@annabethlovesyou4091 Michelle actually had several kids at home
@@annabethlovesyou4091 Only Jessa seems to be a confirmed home-birther, even with her tendency to bleed heavily after delivery. And Michelle had a number of her kids at home.
Her first baby was breech resulting in a hospital transfer for a c-section. She did attempt a home birth.
Yes. It seemed like she had a really hard time with her first child. I'm sure she doesn't want that repeated again.
I was going to say that too!
I was going to say the same thing, I knew she had a c-section with him.
A lot of people choose home birth too because of negative hospital experiences. Or a fear of not being respected as an autonomous being. Women deserve to have complete sovereignty over their body and should give birth wherever and however they want and be active participants in the decision making process should their first plan need to be modified.
Yes that's the reason for the increase of home births. I don't hear many ppl actually bringing up cost
Healthy mom, healthy baby is first priority. Joy is high risk because of her previous emergency c-section and her early miscarriage. She should do what her doctors tell her to do to achieve that end
Proud to have chosen home birth for safety, comfort, and personalized quality care. Let’s not shame moms for how they choose to birth their babies, whether it be in a hospital, in the water, or at home.
@@happyhippiehomeschool ya WOACB definately doesnt agree with those
....which goes out of the window when you're in that kind of pain. Been there. But to each her own..But so many things could go wrong with home birth. Again, to each her own
I’ve had two horrible hospital deliveries and one at home which was the best decision I ever made. The reason she’s having a hospital delivery is because of everything that’s happened with Gideon and her last baby.
If these situations hadn’t occurred I’m sure she’d have stayed at home.
Joy actually had Gideon in the hospital she tried at home and ended up having a csection .
She said in the video that she had him at home
"As planned, Duggar went into labor at home, but after 20 grueling hours, her midwife determined the baby was breech and she was rushed to the hospital where she underwent an emergency C-section." took it from today.com
Without A Crystal Ball she attempted home birth, but actually had Gideon at the hospital. www.intouchweekly.com/posts/joy-anna-duggar-hospital-birth-austin-forsyth-baby-154831/
Without A Crystal Ball she was saying she never packed a hospital bag because they attempted to him at home after 19 hours of labor her midwife finally realized the baby was breech and she ended up going to the hospital for a csection . th-cam.com/video/1Ln3vNzRS8A/w-d-xo.html
thanks for the clarification
I'm so pleased to be British and not have to put cost before safety.
They are not poor.
Republicans have been blocking nationalized health care for decades. They are our version of your Tories, but a lot more virulent.
I agree same in Canada 🇨🇦 free medical
Giving birth at home isn't a financial discussion. I gave birth at home and trust me I could afford to go to the hospital but didn't. It was a really good experience and is becoming more popular
I didn't say that it was a financial decision. My comment was in response to the suggestion that Jessa held out at home over money. The decision should be about personal preference not money. That was my point.
You should actually watch the show! It was a big deal that Joy had a c-section because it can limit how many children she can have. For someone who may want 10 kids it’s a big deal.
She'll probably only have 4-5 biological kids, right?
ale orozco Not necessarily. Jana and John David were delivered by C-Section, Michelle then had Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joseph, Josiah, Jeddidiah, Jerimiah, Jason, James Justin- without C-Section. Jackson was a c-section. Johanna and Jennifer were not c-sections. Jordyn and Josie were c-sections. It all depends on the person, how the c-section heals, what doctor you have and what they think is best for the patient.
@@kaitlynbaerwald5059 I don't have kids which is why I asked since that's what I've heard.
ale orozco Yeah definitely not super well known information. ☺️
It is showing that Katie Joy doesn’t really watch the shows she thinks is okay to criticize!! Not knowing Joy Anna had her baby c-section is not possible if she really watched the show!!!! Do you watch the shows or just get the highlights? Which way is it?? Secondly, it is only a Duggar tradition because Katie Joy said so, only Katie!!!! Is she jealous that some of the woman were able to have home births and she couldn’t stand the pain! Or it it a religious cult thing to have home births?? Which way, Katie? Very hard to understand when you are speaking out on both sides! Please watch the shows, you are insulting your audience when we know way more than you!
JOY & HER HUSBAND ARE PROBABLY WANTING A HOSPITAL BIRTH BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS C-SECTION & IN THE BACK OF HER MIND SHE FEELS MORE COMFORTABLE AFTER HER 2 BABY. AND EVEN IF HER M9M, SISTERS, & INLAWS GET 2 SEE THE BABY THROUGH THE WINDOW IT WOULD EASE HER MIND. AFTER ALL THIS IS HER (3rd) BABY.PRAYING 4 ALL🙏
So in an early episode of counting on they go on to explain after they take Johanna to a plastic surgeon for a cut on her face that they have insurance for life because Jim Bob was a state representative in Arkansas. In fact I kind of suspect that might be one of the reasons why he ran for that position. As for the kids I don’t know but I think one of the reasons that the quiver full movement encourages Home birth is because they think that the medical community is being hostile towards them when they say you know maybe don’t have a baby every year
I don’t know why anyone would refer to a home birth as a “Duggar tradition.” I haven’t heard that anyone has been shunned for using modern medicine. And personally, I don’t see chiropractic care as “holistic.” Whether you give birth in stirrups surrounded by medical staff, or in your tub at home, lower back and hip alignment helps.
Sounds like she's attempting a VBAC so being in hospital is a safer option. 🤷🏼♀️ But I don't understand why homebirth is so frowned upon, I would have loved to be at home if I could have. Especially now with a pandemic, I would hate to be birthing in hospital. Midwives are necessary healthcare practitioners and we should be training more of them.
In my state, if you have a csection, you have to have at least 1 vbac. I started ott having a home birth with my first but needed intervention so went to hospital for C-section, 2nd I had a successful vbac at hospital, and I'm due with my 3rd any day and having a home birth ( hopefully). All with a certified nurse midwife. We are 10 minutes from the hospital and in her 40 years as a midwife has never lost a a mother or baby because of complications at home because she knows when intervention is needed
I feel like Joy will be up their with her kids, but not as many as some of her sisters. I feel like Austin might not want a ton of kids
I think she might not be able to have a lot of kids.
Having a ton of kids sounds irritating and expensive.
I find the term "natural childbirth" very offensive and misleading. Just because you give birth in a hospital and have an epidural or pain meds doesn't mean you're still not naturally giving birth. I wonder who came up with that term. It leads women to think there is something "unnatural" or wrong about giving birth with the help of modern medicine. And there is _nothing_ wrong with it. It also tends to encourage some women who gave birth without pain relief to wear it as some badge of honor. And some (not all) of these women act like they are better than women who have epidurals. You're not any better! You just decided to experience pain that isn't necessary. Good for you, but you aren't better or more noble than any other woman.
Have your baby in the way that is best for you and your child, but don't delude yourself into thinking that a painful childbirth with the _choice_ of no relief makes you better than any other woman. It really doesn't. Sorry.
YES YES YES! Women need to support each other and we have to understand that whatever is safest/healthiest for mom and baby is best whether it is birthing, breastfeeding/bottle feeding, cloth diapers/disposable diapers, etc.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I had 2 “natural” births....if I had a 3rd it would definitely be unnatural! LOL I received no medals and my friends who had epidurals had children of equal health and intelligence. By all means if a woman wants to challenge herself and have a non medicated birth that’s great...but epidurals sound pretty great too
I tend to think of natural birth as a vaginal birth in that it's how nature created our bodies to deliver babies. There is nothing wrong with using meds, hospitals,or c section, etc. The fact is somehow people starting equating natural with better. Birth can have a "natural" course without meaning better it's just what naturally occurs it shouldn't be offensive but I can understand why people could think that. I try to now say vaginal or cesarean, medicated or unmedicated instead of using the term natural for this reason. But truly all natural means is the way God or Biology created it to be for thousand upon thounsands of years not better.
I had my baby via a scheduled csection. I have been told I'm not a real mom since I didn't go through labor . The csection was planned because of a medical condition that I have that could cause my blood pressure to sky rocket and me going into crisis and that would have been horrible for the both of us
My mom has had 7 kids and she hated being in the hospital. She even decided to have my youngest sibling at home with a midwife because she didn’t like the hospital vibe. Also more intimate.
I will never birth in a hospital again. I had my eldest in hospital because I wasn't in a position to home birth and its the most traumatic birth I've had. A lot of what I asked for was ignored, I feel like they played on the fact I was so young. Every birth I've had at home has gone perfectly with no complications at all.
Katie I went into labor Tuesday 4:30 AM and delivered my beautiful daughter at 9:15 PM Thur
Thursday night!
Well done love.
I'm glad she actually is planning on going to the hospital this time since she's high risk.
Gideon was in the hospital. After 20 hours they figured out he was breech and was an emergency C-section
Good for her for making the choice she’s most comfortable with. I had my first in the hospital and if I am able to get pregnant again I will have a home birth.
I’m not sure if it’s just for those trying to do natural but I went to the Chiropractor all throughout my pregnancy and it helped so much in labor. I also loved the epidural when it worked.
Who said it was a tradition to have a home birth for the Duggar girls.Lost of women opt from having their babies somewhere other the a traditional hospital and it has nothing to do with their religion or insurance
Haven't had cable in years- now have it. Went to finally watch a new episode of counting on and the thunderstorm wouldn't allow me. 😂😂😂😂😂 Thank God we have your commentary to keep up. Lol
My son and daughter in law had baby 1. Just the two of them. I don’t get the delivery room full of relatives idea.
The Bates family also has 19 kids and were all singles. Michelle had 2 sets of twins. Jill had C-Sections. Joy "planned homebirth" and ended up with a C-Section. Anna had her first 2 at home, Marcus was at a Birth Center/Water Birth. Jessa was transported to the hospital with her 1st & 3rd. She didn't bleed with Henry.
I dont have kids yet but I plan on having home births. I am mortified of hospitals. Ive had family die from mistakes at a hospital and I personally have almost died because of mistakes at hospitals. For me having a hospital birth would be a nightmare. I would be freaked out the whole time and that is not what birth should be. So to each, their own and no one should judge what people decide to do.
In a healthy woman and pregnancy homebirth is safe and a good option for families.
I've had a hospital, birthing center, homebirth and csection with my 4. I'd choose to be at home any time it was safe.
I agree! I did it and will do it again. Everything went good
I would just feel safer in the hospital!!
I labored naturally both times. The doctor on call threatened to cut me open if I didn’t get an epidural, I got one at 9cm and it didn’t work. I was up and walking right after they cleaned me up. They gave me all the meds. I was pissed but the nurses said it was natural anyway. They freaked cause it didn’t work and I was walking
I’m 37 and I have a 3 and a 2 yr old. I admire any woman that has more than 1. If my second child would have been my first, she would have been the only.
her baby, her choice.
Thank you!
I don't understand why in America you pay to have a baby in hospital?? I guess I take it for granted living in Australia its free & a right for everyone to have Health Care .
Cuz its stupid
I’m American and to give birth would cost a few hundred at most! Please stop believing these lies people spew about American healthcare
@@MaiyaMia1 IMO a few hundred dollars is a lot of money!! Especially when you are about to have a baby .
@@Creeper1824 try a few hundred in CO-PAY, thats not counting anything else
@@MaiyaMia1 really? have you had kids before?
Even when you have “decent” insurance birth can cost many thousands of dollars.
It seems that the Duggar girls are tending to go for Home Births whilst the daughter in laws are going for hospital births (except for Anna but she was the first Duggar-in-law so I’m not surprised if she’s more brainwashed than the rest or if it’s a bi-product of the time she married into the family, back when the Duggar’s were even stricter and all the girls had the same crunchy hair). Jinger went for a hospital birth but she’s far from Jim-Bobs sway. I do think that Jill and Jessa were encouraged by their parents to home birth (as shown by the fact that they laboured at home until they were literally forced to go to the hospital) and I think it must have something to do with frugalness. Michelle wouldn’t have gone for a hospital birth if she had a choice-they started to label her high risk somewhere around the tenth pregnancy
For Jill, at the time Israel was born in Mar(?) 2015 (and possibly at their wedding in June 2014) Derick had an office job at their local Walmart, so he might've had insurance at the time their oldest son was born. As far as the rest of them, they might have a Christian Mutual Aide type of health insurance, unless someone has a job that provides health insurance?
(I hadn't thought about it in years, but yeah Josie's months long stay in the NICU...I think she was born Dec 2009 but had been due Mar 2010... o.O...had to have cost JB & M a pretty penny back then, so no wonder they signed onto TLC to do 19 Kids.., as a regular show.)
A lot of Christians have insurance through good Samaritan... Basically everyone pays in to the ministry and when a medical need arises they pay a good portion of the bills. It's actually a pretty cool system.
I've heard good things. I should look into bc I'm a contract employee and am not covered
what tradition? it's not a tradition to do home births. they can choose what they want. michelle, jill, kendra, jinger, lauren and abbie all had hospital births. jessa planned on a hospital birth with ivy but her labor went so fast there was no time and her midwife was out of town because they didn't think she would go into labor for 2 more weeks
I'd definitely want to go to the hospital because it's better to be safe than sorry. Not just because of what happened last year with Annabelle, but also because Joy had difficulty delivering Gideon and he honestly ended up being SUCH a big baby at ten pounds. I mean, both my aunt when she had my two cousins and my mother had to have c-sections because my cousins and I were each respectively nine pounds and however many inches when we were born.
I think Joe and Kendra are also likely to have a ton of kids. I expect them, Anna, Jessa, and Joy to have "as many as God will give them"
I had both mine natural and in the hospital. The ONLY thing that matters when having a babyis healthy mom and baby. No matter how you get there that is the goal.
Those mama's and babies that don't make it are the most special of all.
Her baby, her business.
Michelle only had Joe and Jinger at home. All the rest were hospital births.
i LOVE the quality of the video
I googled Jim Bobs whole family is worth 3.5 million. Altogether. But one rag magazine said Jesse & Ben barely makes ends meet they disagreed saying they are worth 400,000
I would not think that Joy would be allowed to have an epidural given that she had a C section last full-term delivery. There is usually a "trial by scar" period during labour where the scar from your C section is 'tested' to see if it will stand up to labour. An epidural would not alert the mother/medical staff to this happening whereas experiencing a big increase in pain would. At least that's how midwives do it in the UK.
went to a chiropractor through both of my pregnancies bc I have adult scoliosis and if I didn’t get adjusted I’d be in a lot of pain..
Joy anna gave birth to Gideon in the hospital, she started at home , but ended up going and having him at the hospital. He was 10lbs and birth.
Oh I forget hospital isn’t free in the USA In Australia can have a birth for free unless you use an ambulance that has a cost or you go private hospital
Joy did not have Giddeon at home. She tried for like 40ish hours and nothing was happening so she went to the hospital where they found out he was breech so she had an emergency C section.
I had meds but it did nothing for me. It was like i had taken nothing,
The Bates girls seem to have hospital births with epidural and all(accept Alyssa).
Giedeon was a c section after an attempted home birth, Jinger had Felicity at the Hospital with an epidural. Jessa always home births and ends up being rushed to hospital due to bleeding !
I doubt that she was ‘ditching’ the ‘usual Duggar home birth plans” or just felt more comfortable doing a V-bac in a hospital. Since there is always a chance of the uterus tearing or rupturing during a V-bac, even in a hospital, it’s really good to be close to an operating room where they can do an emergent C Section if anything goes wrong.
Joy didn’t have Gideon at home.. she had a C/S as the baby was breech.
Omg. I just saw a commercial for counting on. And it looks like 2 of the boys get to move out!!! Wtf that’s not fair for Jana!!! She should be able to have her own place!!
Jed is running for office and he has to live in the county that he is running in. I bet if he doesn't win. Back to the big house.
Really nice to hear a happy Duggar story.
It's always wild to me to see people get very attached to their birth plans even in the face of emergency. Out of all 5 of my kids only one went to plan it ranged the whole spectrum from no intervention, to changed the life of a training paramedic as I gave birth in the ambulance, all the way to almost died. They really need to learn to prioritize their ideal vision of what's happening versus their best option.
It's terrible when women are shamed for using safe and effective pain management during labor. I mean, if your baby was born and the doctor said it was having an issue and in lots of pain wouldn't you allow them to give your baby safe and effective medicine to help ease that pain if possible? People should do what they want but choosing an epidural does not in any way diminish the beautiful accomplishment of giving birth.
Would you invite everyone into the bathroom when you take a dump, kinda look at it that way
gideon was also up over 10lbs so im not sure why it's such a big shock that shes having a hospital birth?
The reason they want them to have home birth is because the can film it!! MANY hospitals will not let film crews in due to sanitation, patient privacy, and just general safety. Jim Bob wants it filmed, and the best way to do that is to have it at home
The reason it's such a big deal for Joy Anna and the girls to be having hospital births is it shows they are breaking away from their c*lt mentality. And they'll have to balance negotiations with the controlling parents to keep relations there. Bill Gothard and his material heavily pushed home birth and turned it into a morality/shame thing. Like you could suffer SERIOUS status loss in the hierarchy (IBLP) for not toeing the party line. So good for Joy Anna for working on breaking out, but I also feel for her and the stress she must be under with her parents...I see that look in her eyes, and I wish her all the best.
There is nothing wrong with natural healthcare like chiropractic or giving birth at home if you're not high risk. I respect the Duggars for at least trying. It's also pretty expensive to choose home birth if you have insurance. I was quoted $3000. I chose not too because I was 39, have very little tolerance for pain, and lived in an apartment at the time my son was born. I can't imagine an apartment home birth. I think it's the way to go if you can. I only wish I had seen the chiropractor more throughout my pregnancy.
At this time during the pandemic, I would probably opt for a home birth IF I could and everything was ok and I had a certified mid wife who was able to help me at home. Before the pandemic I would have never considered it but in my state, both people who I know who have had their babies were not allowed to even have their husbands with them immediately after the birth. It’s sad.
It called personal choice for many people. Obviously if they have a high risk pregnancy there is less choice.
I don't think the Duggar's are against hospital birth for most part, I just think home birth from what many say is alot more pleasant.
My first one I was all ready 8 centimeters by the time I reach the hospital (he was quick 3 hours) so no meds for me. Baby 2 I had meds and boy what a difference. In my opinion why go through all that pain when you can have meds to help.
It would not shock me that Michelle & Jim Bob have a say on how this will happen especially since they feel the need to show them giving birth on national tv- when a woman is at a very vulnerable stage! I’m really over the whole Duggar thing!
Lip injections?
God she should be glad Michelle isn’t going to be there-she was absolutely useless when Jessa had Spurgeon
and started bleeding really badly and an ambulance had to be called. She could hardly remember how old Jessa was when the 911 caller asked!
I’m glad Michelle can’t be there.
Thanks for another great newsy update.
I love your Duggar updates! So I'm actually curious (I didn't watch 19 and counting) where the Duggar association with home birth came from? We know the majority of them have had hospital births including Michelle having at least some there so was there ever a statement by them to say they only believed in home birth or didn't believe in hospitals? I'm kinda confused about that... I def think Joy Anna will avoid an epidural if possible because she has tried a natural birth before, but since a few Duggar girls have done it maybe she'll be persuaded. I doubt she had an option given the fact that she had an emergency c section and late miscarriage prior. Also side note of my personal opinion I wouldn't really consider going to the chiropractor holistic but maybe that's just me. I feel like a lot of pregnant women go to be aligned and prepared. 🤷♀️ I personally don't have insurance but I've always wanted a home birth anyway and am not in any way religious like them. People are different and there's nothing wrong with a home birth or birth center or a hospital birth as long as you get to choose what's best for you and your baby.
I have great insurance through my employer and it still cost a small fortune when I had my son and if I were to have another baby my out of pocket cost would double.
I love how Gideon kept saying Hi for a while after he was told to say Hi. I though Joy Anna had an accident where she hurt her back and that is why she see a chiropractor Oh for some reason I though that Katie had a mini-me daughter.
Anna won’t have many more if her husband is sent to prison😆
He needs to. ANNA SEEMS VERY SAD AND DEPRESSED. SHE TRUES TO SMILE BUT IT'S JUST FAKE
I’m in Canada so we don’t have to pay. I felt more comfortable having mine in the hospital. My first one, I had an epidural and it didn’t work. For my last two I chose natural which I was fine with.
i went into labor and everyone freaked out i didnt feel anything but the machine was peaking and i was almost 10 centimeters. so i didnt have pain meds unfortunately there were other complications and i technically died on the operating table after he was born he also only took three breathes and was gone. i cant have any more but its ok. I can take care of my niece and nephews.😊
So so sorry.
@@iamsoaringeagle thanks i wonder some times what hed be like but Ik it was for the best.
@@littleflame5530 Of course you do! I'm glad you've found a way to get thru it and go on. It's hard for me to see how your huge losses are "for the best", though. Needless to say, I struggle with accepting what "is" sometimes. Huge losses for you ..
I was able to go natural with both of my kids. My first labor was 36 hours and my second was about 24. I'm not usually good with pain but somehow I was able to do it.
Chiropractic care during pregnancy is pretty mainstream these days. 🌞
Yeah I agree definitely doesn't holistic to me. Everyone I know goes. I actually want a home birth (not pregnant) and don't go lol bc I dont have insurance.
I think she planned a home birth for Gideon but had to be transferred to the hospital when Jill realized that the baby was breached. I think she had a c-section for Gideon.
I don't understand the fascination with having so many people in the birth room. Why would you want your mom and sisters in the room? With me, I felt there was too many people in my room with my then husband, the nurses, the interns, the doctors etc.
Arkansas has a medical program that covers births and well baby care making it very-inexpensive.
I applaud anyone that has a natural child birth! My epidural wore off about 1 hour before I had my son I've never felt such pain before and will never again feel it again. As far as a home birth in my opinion it's not safe anything could go wrong.
I think it's crazy not to avail oneself of the pain relief offered by modern medicine during one of the most painful events in a woman's life. I wouldn't have a broken arm set "naturally," and I wouldn't have heart surgery "naturally." LOL
Nothing is wrong with a home birth as long as you are healthy and not high risk.
I mean, with my daughter, they hit a nerve when they did my epidural. I had a chronic migraine for three months after. It seriously never fully went away, and I got brushed off for the entire three months. I also hated not being able to walk around before the labor got to be too severe. I ended up having a c-section, which... I actually recovered from devoid of pain meds. They gave me opiates, and I have a weird genetic abnormality where they don't alleviate pain at ALL and just get me high... And not a fun high. I hallucinated. I wouldn't take them after I got home. Absolutely no difference in pain, but I was definitely more clear minded. So I definitely wanted to avoid both with my son. Somehow, I managed to only labor for five and a half hours, and sleep through three hours of that. So by the time we got to the hospital, there wasn't TIME to get any pain relief. I had him an hour after getting there. They basically had time to get my name and tell me to push. Lol. I DEFINITELY don't fault someone for choosing pain meds. Labor SUCKS, and if you respond correctly to them, the meds are VERY relieving. Even speaking of practicality instead of comfort, they let you get some rest before pushing! But after the experiences with my daughter vs my son, if we have a third, I'm definitely going to try to go natural again. It sucks at the time, but I've found the recovery is much better for me. So I wouldn't say it's silly or virtue signaling or anything like that to go WITHOUT pain relief.
Jesse and Ben have been talking about adoption since before they got married. I've wondered when they'd have time since they're cranking out bio kids pretty regularly.
I wondered that too as I went back and watched when they had Spurgeon and talked about him needing to be 9 mo old for adoption process to begin.
I found hospital births to be very uncomfortable, unpleasant and invasive. They don't let you do what you want to do. They make you lay on your back and strap monitors to you. I wanted to labor in the bathtub and they wouldn't let me. I opted to have my 4th child at home, but this freaked out my family so we found a birthing center and the experience was amazing. I wouldn't do it any other way.
The Duggars have so much experience giving birth that they don't necessarily need assistance. I'm not saying hospitals are bad. I recommend hospitals if you're inexperienced with birth.
Joy Anna didn’t have Gideon at home. She tried to deliver at home but she wouldn’t progress and ended up at the hospital she needed an emergency c-section
Here is a wild thought.. What about realllllllllllllllllly breaking tradition and getting a college degree! I think one of those kids should go to school and NOT go right from being a kid to having kids. I would consider myself a failure of a parent if I didn't drive home the point of getting a good education.
Wow You look very pretty. I like your site. You do a good job! I like the Bates. But not the way the Duggar Parents, how they control their kids, and grandkids.
How is Mr. Duggar loaded with money?? what did I miss?
It’s cheaper at home, but Joy Anna miscarried last child. JimBob and Michelle let twin boys leave home. Seems like JB is learning to let go and Let God. JB sees his elder children making their own way. I think he doesn’t wish to lose them, but grown children are choosing to lose him...for now.
They left home but still sharing a room. HE IS SCARED THAT ONE OF THEM MAY SLIP IN A GIRLFRIEND.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
SO EVEN ON THEIR OWN THRY ARE STILL A CHAPERONE
Gideon was born via c-section in the hospital. He was breech.
glad you're feeling better ♡♡
Im 26 and no kids and I don't want kids. I love kids but they are not for me. I don't think I will be a good mum.
They probably have health sharing coverage through Medishare or Christian Healthcare Miniseries. They have great coverage but it’s just very different than insurance.
She did not deliver Gideion at home, she had to go to hospital for c-section
Thank the Lord. I’m so glad. God bless her and her family.
Jessa made the stupidest decision to continue home birthing despite constantly experiencing major bleeding. She’s putting herself and her baby at risk to uphold ‘tradition’
Jimboob has probably talked them into home birth to save money
It's more than that. Fundies take a literal interpretation of the Bible and see pain related to child birth as a direct consequence of the fall of man as outlined in Genesis.
She's so young.. I know that people can have kids at different ages. It's just that me and my friends are 28-31 and none of us or people of our age that we know have kids. So when I see young mothers I'm always so shocked because they look not fare from being kids themselves.
Glad she's breaking away from the Dugger tradition.
Omg please make a video on the tlc post of the twins getting a house and sharing a room. Wtf.
I saw that preview! It was so awful! Lol
I think Gideon was definitely a Csection. She did labor at home but ultimately ended up needing an emergency delivery. Vbacks are certainly possible if followed closely by doctors who agree with the want to do so but coming from me I’ve had 4 Csections and after the first it was just safer for me. Everyone is different though so just wish them the very best anyway.
I love babies, but 2 were enough for me
Same here!
Joy suffered needlessly for hours for her first infant... thank god she will have better options this time.