Should I Partition My Hard Disk?

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  • @Douglas_Blake_579
    @Douglas_Blake_579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I always partition my drives. System on C, Data on D, storage on E. This scheme has saved my backside more than once when I had to format and reinstall my OS drive. I would format C: do a clean windows install, reinstall my programs ... and there's my Data files, unscathed, waiting for me.
    I never backup the OS ... I always backup Data and Storage to at least 2 other devices, every day.

    • @Resepdrea12
      @Resepdrea12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's the difference bw D and E?

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Resepdrea12
      In my workflow D: is smallish partition, about 200gb or so, where I can make a horrible mess while working on projects. E: is a larger much more organized partition where completed work is archived for future reference.
      Backups are on a separate physical drive that is large enough to hold everything from D: and E:

  • @IsaacCheng8
    @IsaacCheng8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Having a separate physical hard drive for each drive letter makes perfect sense for desktops. However, it is not always practical for laptops. In that case, partition makes sense because you want to spend less time on bare metal recovering the entire C: and restore individual data files in D: as needed. Because C: and D: require completely different workflows for recovery, separating apps from data into its own partition is a good idea.

  • @ReinholdOtto
    @ReinholdOtto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    If a C drive runs full, that can make your system unbootable. That is a important consideration if you run databases on servers, and files can grow quickly and fill up. So I share the idea: never put anything that can grow unto your C drive. Which implies: have your data on another drive.

    • @DavidM2002
      @DavidM2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are a number of free partition utilities like Niubi with which you simply shrink D: and enlarge C:

    • @robertcartier5088
      @robertcartier5088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavidM2002 no need for another app, that simple task is already built into Windows -- see 'Disk Management'...

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavidM2002
      Provided you can actually boot the system.

  • @7lllll
    @7lllll 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the problem with the C drive is that the root directory is a mess. this is why i make one additional partition of D and make simple folder structures that i'm happy with. D is right next to C, so easy to exchange space between the two if needed

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can also just make a folder and put all your stuff in sub folders you don't need to follow what Windows trys to do by making the \users\peoplewedontlike\totallosers\ folder

  • @davidmartin8211
    @davidmartin8211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Suggestion. Create a directory in the home directory and use the SUBST command to map a drive letter to your created directory.
    On the whole, with the current drive technology I do not think partitioning makes any sense. it only made sense when we were running an older version of Tasha windows that had to be periodically reinstalled.

  • @harmonica1151
    @harmonica1151 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video, Leo. My computer is a PC-Window 11. I have a problem regarding the loss of partition Drive C when I unlink One Drive (I was alert that it was full) from my computer. I would appreciate if you can show me how to partition C, D and E drive for easy organizing my data. Thanks

  • @fishpotpete
    @fishpotpete 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm in the non-partitioning camp. But you brought up one excellent reason why I might need to consider it in the future - multiple OS's. I hadn't really thought about that before. But then again, I've never used multiple OS's on the same machine before either 🙂 I just have multiple machines that are in different locations for different purposes... And I use a NAS for anything they need to access between systems.

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Having a 2nd OS can save you time if you make sure you don't encrypt the drives.

  • @GetOffMyyLawn
    @GetOffMyyLawn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still partition my SSDs. The main reason why I still do it is to keep large programs (mostly flight simulators and steam games) on a different partition. I can then decide what gets backed up. System partition (C:) and main programs (D:) get backed up. Games (E:) and Temp (T:) do not get included in backups. I can restore the main partitions if needed, and just reinstall the games as i play them. This also lets me monitor how much space the OS is using vs programs and temp space, and makes cleanup easier.

  • @mqcapps
    @mqcapps 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm with Leo on this. I use my C drive m.2 for apps that need speed and because temps are eternal I set temps and installs for SATA drive D so that I can find stuff more easily

  • @DavidM2002
    @DavidM2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had an image backup of my C: drive and also back up my data separately. When the drive became corrupt, trying to put everything back together was a huge pain because the image file also contained all of my data and was enormous. I now partition all of my computer drives. If you don't want to partition your drive, see if your computer will accept a second drive. Drives are too cheap to not bother.

  • @LauraKnotek
    @LauraKnotek 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a single partition on each drive but use the physical D, E, and F drives to store specific types of data and what I back up. For example my E drive is an M.2 NVME drive that I don't back up because it only has games that are from Steam. It is fast for some AAA titles. My D drive is a HDD that has data other than games and is backed up.

  • @NoEgg4u
    @NoEgg4u 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I once created 3 partitions (one for OS, one for apps, and one for data -- saved files), and it was very good, organizationally, but it was a mistake to make separate partitions (I will explain in a moment).
    Now, I still have a C:, D:, and E: drive for OS, apps, and data, but they are all on one partition.
    The difference is in the flexibility of allocating space.
    With 3 separate partitions, when I wanted to adjust the space of one of the partitions (which was running low), I wanted to grab some of the free space from my C: drive (which had over 500GB of free space that I would never use. But Windows would not let me. My only option was to use a 3rd party partitioning tool. I used the free version of Mini Tool Partition Wizard. It required a re-boot to perform the space reallocation.
    Today, I have a single partition, and 3 logical drives. Now Windows allows me to easily reallocate space between the partitions, with no reboot.
    Frankly, I cannot think of any advantage for having 3 partitions on a drive. From the user's perspective, a single partition with logical drives functions exactly the same way.
    I make a fair amount of use of the command prompt. So having more than one drive letter is helpful. It allows me to be in different directories on the various logical drives, and not have to reference the entire fully qualified path of each logical drive when issuing commands for the directory of each logical drive.
    @3:16 -- Our host made reference to the finite number of drive letters. @3:36, he mentioned that there are ways to work around this, but did not go into it (likely because it was beyond the scope of this topic). For those who are curious, it is called using a mount point. It is how Linux mounts drives. You can connect countless drives, when using mount points (well, there will be some limit, but probably several hundred drives).
    You can mount a drive into an empty directory of another drive.
    So if you have your C: drive, you can have a directory named c:\whatever\drives (where "drives" is an empty directory).
    Now, you can mount some other drive, into the "drives" directory, with (for example) the name "movies". Then, whenever you go to the c:\whatever\drives\movies directory, you will actually be on your other drive.
    This can be helpful, for example, if you want to search multiple drives, without having to specify c:, d:, e; f:, g:, etc with your search criteria.
    If your drives are all mounted within your "drives" folder, then when you search all sub-directories of your "drives" folder, you will be searching all of those drives.

  • @davinp
    @davinp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some say partition the disk, so that WIndows is on the C: drive and your data is on the D: drive

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would add a 3rd to install Linux

  • @bertnijhof5413
    @bertnijhof5413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have always 2 partitions on my HDD (2 TB), the first partitions stores my Virtual Machines with their own home directories and the last partition all other stuff. The first partition reads on average at 192 MB/s & 12.5 msec access time and the last one at 142 MB/s & 13.3 msec. By the way the file system is OpenZFS. The first partition has a 90 GB SSD cache and the last one a 30 GB SSD cache, both in practice at 480MB/s and 0.2 msec access time with the 2nd slowest Ryzen ever, the Ryzen 3 2200G.

  • @jakerealm4079
    @jakerealm4079 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently partitoned my offline ext hdd. 4tb. Into 3 partitions. As Im low on storage. To backup disk images. Of all 3 of my computers. Using AOMEI. But on the pc's themselves. I don't partition. Partitioning an ext hdd. Can come in real handy. Storing different types of computer image files. For when you need to restore from a disk image. On a certain computer.

  • @knutblaise9437
    @knutblaise9437 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking at Windows disk manager I have a 20GB X partition following the C partition. The idea is if C becomes unusable due to being full, I can move X data to another physical drive, delete X, and expand C into a portion of the former X space. This allows the required C cleanup to be pushed to a more convenient time. I use X for storing files on which I’m actively working so it is not wasted.
    While describing this it struck me that the X physical space on the SSD is receiving more wear than the rest of the SSD. A better approach is just to set aside a GB or so of unpartitioned space following C into which the C partition can be expanded if it becomes full. The downside is C’s cleanup would need to occur sooner, though you could leave more space unpartitioned.

  • @DMS_6482
    @DMS_6482 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally have partitioned to install more than one operating system and use an external drive to store my important files. As of about 5 years ago I got rid of Windows and installed Netrunner (Debian based KDE Plasma) current version Netrunner 23, highly recommend.

  • @CaptainDangeax
    @CaptainDangeax 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I partition hdd, 1 cylinder for uefi, 1gb for /boot, ram size for swap, 15gb for /, the remaining for /home. So lots of accesses are limited to a tiny, thin and fast zone, enhancing global system responsiveness

  • @bxf99999
    @bxf99999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My largest partition contains photos and videos. I know when it is necessary for me to take a new backup of this partition, and it is nowhere near as frequent as needing to back up my C drive. Backing up the entire physical drive every time would be using lots of time and space unnecessarily. Also, although this is not always possible, I try to keep files that keep game scores on a drive other than C, so that when I occasionally find it necessary to restore C, I don't lose my current scores. Conversely, if I need to restore some non-C data, I can do it without changing my OS drive.

  • @Soupie62
    @Soupie62 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Virtualisation?
    Back when I was making virtual machines, I would make my C: drive as small as possible (Gparted helped) THEN convert to an image. The virtual machines would then have a 2nd (virtual) D: drive for data.

  • @j7ndominica051
    @j7ndominica051 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Separating Operating System, Programs/Games, Swap and Temp files is useful. You can wipe the temp partition to restore its speed and never need to worry about backing it up. The other partitions are protected from fragmentation caused by writing numerous temp files. Programs and games can be shared between OS, and often don't need to be installed/registered in the OS. When they do need to be installed, there sometimes a "regsetup" crack that can skip the whole installation process.
    But you need to be an advanced computer user because most current software will dump obscene quantities of files all deep into the Windows "Documents" directory structure, and you need to be aware of this and relocate them where they truly belong. You can do this with file system Junction (from Sysinternals) even if the programs don't allow to specify another location.
    It also depends on the size of your disk. A 2 TB disk is too big for Windows or any OS, even if you allow some crap files on the System partition. But a 128 gig flash medium is not worth subdividing with modern greedy Windows. Although a decade or so ago, Windows XP could happily exist on about 5 gigs of system.

    • @Resepdrea12
      @Resepdrea12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So OS in C? Then ProgramFiles in C or D ?

  • @javaman4584
    @javaman4584 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you're going to dual-boot Windows and Linux, put them on separate drives, not separate partitions on the same drive. In a single-disk configuration, Windows likes to mess with the bootloader that it shares with Linux, especially when updating, and it can cause Linux to become inaccessible. Use separate drives, and install Windows first, then Linux, and all will be good.

    • @dansanger5340
      @dansanger5340 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And, the Linux installer sometimes messes with the Windows drive, even when you tell it not to. I install Linux on a separate drive, and physically disconnect the Windows drive before I do.

  • @kensmith5694
    @kensmith5694 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have multiple OSs so I fall into the "has multiple OSs" class.
    For Windows users, I will sometimes suggest making a partition on the drive so you have a place to install Linux later on.

  • @UltraZelda64
    @UltraZelda64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A smaller C: partition just big enough for the OS and any applications and a D: partition spanning the rest of the disk is easily the way to go. It might initially take a bit of extra custom configuration during setup, but if you can install Windows you should be able to handle setting up an extra partition during the install. Just a little bit of extra configuration at the beginning makes the system a breeze to work with over time.
    The *only* time I would recommend against this is if you plan on playing a lot of games and you don't have a separate drive to install them on.
    NTFS seems to choke and stutter and just get overwhelmed easily. Yeah, it's likely going to work fine, but for performance I still don't trust it. Making separate sandboxes allows the system to just do what it wants, and your data will effectively have no real impact on the performance of the system itself as it has effectively been isolated.

  • @verdedoodleduck
    @verdedoodleduck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've found that my own sloppiness works against having my os on a seperate logical drive. I am not consistent with installing programs, saving files, etc. only on the other drive. I also forget where I installed something if I'm looking through the file systems for it... Enough irritations that it invalidates my use case for seperating the os. :)

  • @dennisclapp7527
    @dennisclapp7527 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Leo

  • @UltraZelda64
    @UltraZelda64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think lack of drive letters is a true concern and never has been, even back when a machine might have had a floppy drive or two and maybe two optical disc drives. I only ever got to F: or G:, maybe H:. If you really do somehow go through all 26 letters of the alphabet, you could always switch to using mountpoints or use an OS that uses mountpoints by default instead. :P
    But the one thing I disagree with the most is speed on rotating disks: If you have the entire Windows system on, say, a small 64 GB partition at the beginning of the disk, it will only span and have to move within the physical range of that particular 64 GB section of the disk for any normal system or application functions. Also, if placed at the beginning where the disk should theoretically be at its fastest, you should see even more of a speed improvement. If you have one gigantic 8 TB disk partition, one second it could be on the inner edge, the next it could be seeking to the seven terabytes away at the rim. And it wouldn't matter if you're playing an audio or video file, browsing a web site, launching a program or booting Windows; anything could literally be anywhere spanning that entire multi-terabyte disk.
    Depending on exactly how much space you give Windows itself room to play you *may* have to defrag the system partition a little bit more, but at least your own personal files will not be contributing to any such slowdowns if placed on a separate partition. Oh, and backing up is so much easier! Two partitions are just better.

  • @rollyapostol326
    @rollyapostol326 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it depends on your needs if you need to partition hdd...

  • @cosmicfxx
    @cosmicfxx 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not sure if you know much about Photoshop ... but I have a 1 TB NvMe drive and thinking of partitioning that NvMe drive to separate space between what I want to use for data, and what I want to use for Photoshop's "scratch/temp" files ... think that's a good idea for organizational purposes? Currently I have both shared on the drive and it looks a mess because one can't allocate a folder destination for PS scratch, so I have my data folders on top level, but then many PS temp files just along with the data folders. Not sure if partitioning and sharing a 1 TB NvMe between my data files/folders would negatively effect Photoshop "scratch disc" peformance neither ... also not sure how much space to allocate for PS scratch disc.

    • @askleonotenboom
      @askleonotenboom  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Given that it's the same drive, I don't expect any performance benefit.

  • @SuprousOxide
    @SuprousOxide 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For linux, maybe. But windows just absolutely doesn't make things easy. I had a large secondary disk and i wanted to move my user files over there (as in actually redirect the Documents, Download, AppData etc folders over.there), but no windows doesn't want you to do that and fights you every step of the way.
    You can install programs in a different partition or drive, but need to remember each time you install that you want to do that.

    • @UltraZelda64
      @UltraZelda64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So true. Windows has to be one of the most inflexible OSes ever made. It wants to do everything and set a PC up its own way and when deciding "that way" it seems that having one drive and taking it over (probably partially to make it difficult for competitors...) from beginning to end. At one time it may have made sense when hard drives were small and expensive and it's unlikely any benefits would have been made, but the OS continues to make these ancient assumptions to this day the same way it did on a 40GB or even smaller drive in the past, but these days it's working with 256 or 512 GB, even a terabyte or two!

    • @UltraZelda64
      @UltraZelda64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So true. Windows has to be one of the most inflexible OSes ever made. It wants to do everything and set a PC up its own way and when deciding "that way" it seems that having one drive and taking it over (probably partially to make it difficult for competitors...) from beginning to end. At one time it may have made sense when hard drives were small and expensive and it's unlikely any benefits would have been made, but the OS continues to make these ancient assumptions to this day the same way it did on a 40GB or even smaller drive in the past, but these days it's working with 256 or 512 GB, even a terabyte or two!

  • @Bigtbone205
    @Bigtbone205 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you have a single larger physical disk and have a lot of data that you don't care about losing then a partition can make sense. You keep your important data on your c drive and image that regularly and all your not important data on your d drive.

  • @franciscohorna5542
    @franciscohorna5542 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mine is not partioned i just use external wd elements 4tb drive

  • @mihailvormittag6211
    @mihailvormittag6211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍

  • @drescherjm
    @drescherjm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the most part I no longer partition hard drives since their role has changed over the years. What I mean is HDs are now usually data storage used in raid arrays or standalone backup devices and not used for OS.

  • @davinp
    @davinp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PC Manufactures put a recovery partition on the disk

    • @iceManSwag
      @iceManSwag 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes they do so when the drive dies so those the recovery.

    • @brazenserpent7
      @brazenserpent7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@iceManSwagBut if the physical drive fails, then the recovery drive won't be useful.

    • @iceManSwag
      @iceManSwag 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brazenserpent7 you could replace the broken drive & recover data from the second drive to the new one. This is what I was talking about. Anyway a backup is when you have 3 physical copies of your data & preferably 3rd kept physically in a different location because you never know.

    • @brazenserpent7
      @brazenserpent7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iceManSwag I back up my files on a few different physical drives, both SSD and HDD. Also, I use Google Drive, OneDrive, Mega, etc. for easy remote access. As someone who has lost significant amounts of data, I can't emphasize enough on the importance of regular data back-ups, both full and incremental. Thank you for sharing your comment, though. I agree 100%; I was only referring to a failed drive, that's why we need various copies of important files, photos, videos, and the like.

    • @iceManSwag
      @iceManSwag 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brazenserpent7 yes loosing data is the worst case scenario when you can't recover them. I also suggest good security protection such as a third party antivirus & firewall. One of my friends had his data encrypted by some ransomware but he couldn't pay them to retrieve the data because the credentials were blocked! You mentioned some great products maybe Leo can do a video on those 🤔 for the ones that know of them.

  • @txkflier
    @txkflier 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No..