If your mom and sister are so gosh darn concerned, they can raise that child financially. And I guess neither your mother nor your sister care if their husbands cheat on them??
Totally get what you're saying! It’s wild how people jump to judging without looking at the full picture, huh? And yeah, their standards are...interesting, to say the least. 😬
Some people, mainly women will ask how is it so easy to turn off your emotions regarding the affair kid you raised... Easy. Its about as hard as the decision you make you have a affair. The kid isn't his, "Biology doesn't matter" in this instance it very much matters... His wife cheated and had a kid that isn't his, he has 0 repeat 0 responsibilities for her. "It doesn't matter how she got here", it does matter. If you disagree with any of the above... stop, take a deep breath and realise you have a cheaters mindset and or just don't understand the sheer scale of how messed up it is. Luckily you can fix that BEFORE making a mistake.
It's such a trip how these women won't even give a guy any time to process his emotions. It's straight to FORGIVE. No time is allowed for shock, or rage, or to mourn. No, straight to 'think of the child', which is code for 'what about me'. Ridiculous. 🤨
“She expected me to be som perfect forgiving guy”… That’s the thing, if you “forgive” this, you are far from perfect, you are a doormat. Forgiveness is about letting go of hatred towards someone, not taking on the consequences of their actions or removing their accountability. She cheated and lied for years. She deserves a divorce and the kid deserves to know her real father. The kid is innocent in this but that doesn’t mean you are responsible for her.
No need for a DNA test before the divorce since it was the cheating that broke the trust and marriage for OP. The DNA test, however, should be done before a settlement is worked out, plus disclosure regarding the actual father and bringing him into the equation, as well.
@@unconditionallyvalid and you know that how? due show us what VALID PROFF YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT HIS CLAM DUMBASS CAUSE REDDIT IS A FUCKING THING YA KNOW
I think the mom has some secrets. Maybe he should get a DNA test to see if he is really his father‘s child. What mother would stand by a cheating wife that lied about the child being her sons something just doesn’t seem right how she’s pushing so hard for him to forgive and go to raise a child that is not his. If he was to go back to his wife and raise the child, he would always look at her and see the betrayal. I’m sure he would continue to love the child, but it will always be there and I don’t think he would ever be able to trust his wife again. It is better to cut ties and decide if he wants to be in the child’s life or not, but he does not need to be married to the cheater to have the child in his life or he may choose not to have any contact with the child and that would be understandable as well
The child is young enough to forget you. You are not her father, you don't need to forgive or forget. And ghost your family, they are nuts. If they want a child why don't they take care of it themselves 😂
they would call him a bigger pos and let everyone in the world know what he did. there's no winning against women because men will always be the bad guy in any situation
I've always said this: Most women don't have empathy for the masculine experience. Even mothers and sisters. Note that even in the case of r*pe the kid is always theirs but still they get empathy to abort the kid. And also note in how many cases there is no r*pe involved and they still abort and srill get empathy.
Sad how guy didnt register that a liers word isnt worth anything. He needs a dna test before believing about the kid is or isnt his. Wonder who was going to tell him if she didnt. Cheaters dont just admit out the blue. Both his mom and sister made clear their both cheaters without outright admitting to it. Maybe one of them did but more likely someone connected to the kids dad if not him. He should have just blocked both after first harassments. Gotten new number after they tried other phones like that type does. Telling sister I have no sister never contact me again. Then basically same to his defective incubator. Not to mention telling her she needs to give him space to processes it doesn't matter where just she leaves untill he is ready instead of kicking himself out of his own home. No mention of his father in any of it so likely cheater of a mom is why he never knew his. Poor guy
No man worth his salt will ever accept a baby with another man passed onto him deceitfully. They're so selfish and simply assume they can fix any emotional hurt without accepting accountability. They're friggin children. Shame on these ladies. OP should go NC with cheating mother and sister. Let them deal with their own messes. They're the worst kind of women.
I would've been talking to lawyers about all the harassment and got a restraining order against them. And then made it so all communication went through lawyers
If the OP wanted his mom to shut her pie hole he should ask her "Mom did you cheat on dad? Are me and my sister my dad's kids? Explain to me why you don't care what the cheater did." Saying that would piss her off but it would shut her up.
Good story you did the right thing in the end. You moved away lost contact with your ex-wife your mother and your sister. None of them are worth knowing feel sorry for the poor baby but that’s not your fault. Your ex-wife mentioned that soon as the blood father of the baby found out he didn’t wanna know about it. What would’ve happened if he was interested we should’ve left you and gone off with him. 0:03
The only women who can understand the pain of paternity fraud are those who got the wrong babies at the hospital, and that can't even begin to scratch the surface of this betrayal.
This is his life not his Mom's or sister's. What he decides to do about this is his own choice. If his Mom and stster want to keep the family together so bad, then they can financialy support his ex and her daughter.
yep she wanted his money and help and nothing else,she didn't respect him enough to give him a child and most likely she would never give him a child of his own.
If my mother acted like his and told me to man up and quit throwing things away, and that she wouldn't support me I'd just say "WOW!!! I just realized, that I really hate you!!! We aren't family anymore, you are trash!!!"
Be a different story if she was already pregnant before they got together, then there wouldn't have been an issue of him raising another guy's kid and not being her biological father
This would make me tell my mother. What kind of mother are you.And say the same thing to my sister.I mean the son has been done wrong.I just can't understand this!!
S1: You know what they say about cheaters they support other cheaters. And its looking like she has a past as well as the sister to believe this crap would be ok
His weak ass should of blocked mom and sister after that first call from each...then go absolutely N.C with both...Ask his father if he's ok with their attitude on this subject...but his soft Hallmark/Disney movie upbringing won't let him...BLOCK YOUR FAMILY AND EX
we're is this guy's father did he say? to let the mother and sister betray the son is ridiculous and the father needs to be a man and tell the ladies to shut up and not guilt the son
OP: ALPHA seed (AP) but BETA need (you, her backup plan). The reality is that your STBXW found an ALPHA-CHAD at the gym at tried to baby-trap him. He bailed so she ran back to YOU and her BETA backup plan.
I guess his mother and sister are too stupid, to understand that he has no rights to that little girl!!! DNA absolutely matters in the eyes of the law and if the ex ever gets mad at him she can absolutely take his so-called daughter away and he'd lose all over again as he has no rights!!!
I wonder why all of a sudden your wife, now ex-wife, decided to tell you about the affair and the child. It is suspicious that your mother and sister sided with your cheating ex-wife. Did your wife at first think this would never come out. What if there was some medical reason that she needed something from a relative, and then he learns that the child is not him. I understand where if you had gone back with your wife every time you looked at the child you would know that your wife had cheated. In the end, these memories would destroy you all
If she confessed right away that she had an affair and sought counseling to understand why I could probably forgive it. If she told him she was pregnant and she was not sure who was the father and they made the decision together about what to do then I could understand. But she tool all his agency away from him. She lied and cheated and did not use protection then lied to him about the child not being his for years. Lie after lie after lie piling up. How would he ever trust her again when she has shone herself to be so unworthy of trust? As far as his sister and mother I would tell them they can support their grandaughter and niece if it is that important to them but they do not have the right to ask him to sacrifice his life for their convenience. If the man had an affair baby with another woman I doubt any of them would support him
Too many women want to gamble their future with you on a fling, hoping they can get away with it. Then they don't want to accept that they lost the gamble when they see it all crashing down around them, realize how stupid they are, and have to face that the damage is irreparably done. Other women are going to defend them because they all think alike. They want to be able to get away with stuff like that at the cost of their husband's self respect and dignity. And yeah, everyone here saying stuff like, "The mother and sister are 100% cheating" is a typical internet bozo who makes definitive conclusions based on a bare minimum of evidence, all with the bravery of being out of range of any repercussions if they are wrong. Nothing is 100% sure. That's why people get into these situations where people blindside them with cheating or something. It's because they make too many assumptions about people and before they know it the image formed by all the assumptions doesn't add up when adversity hits and people show their true colors. Most of the time it's behavior people excuse because it doesn't hurt them, and then when it finally blows up in their face then the person is suddenly a scumbag they want nothing to do with. Nope. Don't just state your boundaries and standards, enforce them as much as you can. That includes not latting a SO do stuff that everyone knows leads to the risk of cheating. Nip it in the bud ASAP. Don't worry about "appearing controlling." Tell them you're controlling of your boundaries and will enforce them come hell or high water. Unless you're dealing with a total sociopath they''ll respect that. If they don't they're either a bully or a coward, neither of which you should allow to advise you.
How is it possible to forgive her! she's saying the other man bailed, it means the husband is a back up plan in her mind when AP didn't want her anymore or his kid.. she already took advantage of her husband totally in anyway possible.. she told him about it to break him cuz she doesn't respect him at all.. the fact that she allowed AP to hit it RAW say it all she didn't even worried about STD.. the poor husband didn't get to make his wife pregnant cuz she doesn't allow it.. she doesn't want him as a man for her, she want him as a provider beta stupid male.. she didn't even give him a child of his own in those 3 years out of pity or guilt or whatever, this woman didn't love him at all !! plain and simple, good decision my friend move on.
That is so sad. Having grown up without a father myself, I could not have abandoned that child. Not after her calling me daddy for three freakin' years.
Mom is a cheater. Sister is a cheater. Check that you're even your Dad's son!
Exactly
What about the sister? Is she related to her mother’s husband? You are right, “birds of a feather, flock together”
Mother is 100 percent cheater , Cheaters stick together
They also rase guys to best sute a cheating women without ever suspecting it. They rase to be simp chump
I wouldn't be surprised anymore if your mom also cheated before and your sister is an affair child.
Welcome to a world of government backed feminism.
@@Aramasilaka judaism
or OP's !
Remember OP homies over hoes
If your mom and sister are so gosh darn concerned, they can raise that child financially. And I guess neither your mother nor your sister care if their husbands cheat on them??
Guarantee Mother and Sister are Cheaters themselves.
Totally get what you're saying! It’s wild how people jump to judging without looking at the full picture, huh? And yeah, their standards are...interesting, to say the least. 😬
@@Rwp019 I agree with you and back your guarantee
So the mother says "family comes first", but then throws her own son under the bus for a stranger and her child...
The mom is a cheater and the sister is an affair child
If the mom, the sister, or anyone else care so much, let them raise the affair baby.
Some people, mainly women will ask how is it so easy to turn off your emotions regarding the affair kid you raised...
Easy.
Its about as hard as the decision you make you have a affair.
The kid isn't his, "Biology doesn't matter" in this instance it very much matters...
His wife cheated and had a kid that isn't his, he has 0 repeat 0 responsibilities for her.
"It doesn't matter how she got here", it does matter.
If you disagree with any of the above... stop, take a deep breath and realise you have a cheaters mindset and or just don't understand the sheer scale of how messed up it is.
Luckily you can fix that BEFORE making a mistake.
Hopefully mandatory paternity tests become legal across the globe.
It's such a trip how these women won't even give a guy any time to process his emotions. It's straight to FORGIVE. No time is allowed for shock, or rage, or to mourn. No, straight to 'think of the child', which is code for 'what about me'. Ridiculous. 🤨
“She expected me to be som perfect forgiving guy”…
That’s the thing, if you “forgive” this, you are far from perfect, you are a doormat. Forgiveness is about letting go of hatred towards someone, not taking on the consequences of their actions or removing their accountability. She cheated and lied for years. She deserves a divorce and the kid deserves to know her real father. The kid is innocent in this but that doesn’t mean you are responsible for her.
mother: she's your daughter! OP: whose my bio father!? and keep repeating that until either the mom stops or confesses something,
If OP ever gets remarried and has kids, he should keep them away from his new family
no DNA test on daughter, husband/dad? i would want that done before filing for divorce....
Dw, this story is ai generated. They tend to use the same phrases in ai generated stories
No need for a DNA test before the divorce since it was the cheating that broke the trust and marriage for OP. The DNA test, however, should be done before a settlement is worked out, plus disclosure regarding the actual father and bringing him into the equation, as well.
What's the point when she already came clean?
@@unconditionallyvalid and you know that how? due show us what VALID PROFF YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT HIS CLAM DUMBASS CAUSE REDDIT IS A FUCKING THING YA KNOW
At least the wife was honest. She revealed herself. She cheated because of an attractive man. That's enough for her to cheat on.
It's actually insane how many women actually think this way, smfh. As if men are obligated to raise another man's child.
I am ∞% sure that both mom and sister are serial cheaters...
What is wrong with OP? He keeps entertaining these people. Some people love pain.
I think the mom has some secrets. Maybe he should get a DNA test to see if he is really his father‘s child. What mother would stand by a cheating wife that lied about the child being her sons something just doesn’t seem right how she’s pushing so hard for him to forgive and go to raise a child that is not his. If he was to go back to his wife and raise the child, he would always look at her and see the betrayal. I’m sure he would continue to love the child, but it will always be there and I don’t think he would ever be able to trust his wife again. It is better to cut ties and decide if he wants to be in the child’s life or not, but he does not need to be married to the cheater to have the child in his life or he may choose not to have any contact with the child and that would be understandable as well
Cheating trash will support other cheating trash
The child is young enough to forget you. You are not her father, you don't need to forgive or forget. And ghost your family, they are nuts. If they want a child why don't they take care of it themselves 😂
She waited til you were oast the point of being able to contest the paternity thats sick and twisted
OP should have asked his mom his she'd feel if HE had been the one who'd cheated and had a child
they would call him a bigger pos and let everyone in the world know what he did. there's no winning against women because men will always be the bad guy in any situation
Café owners need special booths for the amount neutral ground meetings.
🤣
Something tells me mom has secrets.
His mom and sister are cheaters. Someone needs to let this guy know there is a thing you can do with phones, it’s called blocking phone numbers.
I've always said this: Most women don't have empathy for the masculine experience. Even mothers and sisters. Note that even in the case of r*pe the kid is always theirs but still they get empathy to abort the kid. And also note in how many cases there is no r*pe involved and they still abort and srill get empathy.
guarantee either OP or sister is an affair child and mom knows it. cheaters will always excuse cheaters because they know how they feel
Sad how guy didnt register that a liers word isnt worth anything. He needs a dna test before believing about the kid is or isnt his.
Wonder who was going to tell him if she didnt. Cheaters dont just admit out the blue.
Both his mom and sister made clear their both cheaters without outright admitting to it. Maybe one of them did but more likely someone connected to the kids dad if not him.
He should have just blocked both after first harassments. Gotten new number after they tried other phones like that type does. Telling sister I have no sister never contact me again. Then basically same to his defective incubator.
Not to mention telling her she needs to give him space to processes it doesn't matter where just she leaves untill he is ready instead of kicking himself out of his own home.
No mention of his father in any of it so likely cheater of a mom is why he never knew his.
Poor guy
No man worth his salt will ever accept a baby with another man passed onto him deceitfully. They're so selfish and simply assume they can fix any emotional hurt without accepting accountability. They're friggin children. Shame on these ladies. OP should go NC with cheating mother and sister. Let them deal with their own messes. They're the worst kind of women.
It seems to me his mom cheated before.
I would've been talking to lawyers about all the harassment and got a restraining order against them. And then made it so all communication went through lawyers
If the OP wanted his mom to shut her pie hole he should ask her "Mom did you cheat on dad? Are me and my sister my dad's kids? Explain to me why you don't care what the cheater did." Saying that would piss her off but it would shut her up.
Good story you did the right thing in the end. You moved away lost contact with your ex-wife your mother and your sister. None of them are worth knowing feel sorry for the poor baby but that’s not your fault. Your ex-wife mentioned that soon as the blood father of the baby found out he didn’t wanna know about it. What would’ve happened if he was interested we should’ve left you and gone off with him. 0:03
The only women who can understand the pain of paternity fraud are those who got the wrong babies at the hospital, and that can't even begin to scratch the surface of this betrayal.
"One month off, no questions asked"...yeah right.
This is his life not his Mom's or sister's. What he decides to do about this is his own choice. If his Mom and stster want to keep the family together so bad, then they can financialy support his ex and her daughter.
Thats just how women works
yep she wanted his money and help and nothing else,she didn't respect him enough to give him a child and most likely she would never give him a child of his own.
Women....if you want a man to continue raising an affair child, hope you are willing to raise a man's affair child too. The hypocrisy of society.
She is 30 for seven years 😂😂😂
it aint his problem but she just learned to never tell the truth again
It would have been different if she was pregnant with her daughter when they met instead of cheating on him
Pretty sure OP isn't his dad biological son, and the sister is cheating too.
Bruh Mom is the ops.
If my mother acted like his and told me to man up and quit throwing things away, and that she wouldn't support me I'd just say "WOW!!! I just realized, that I really hate you!!! We aren't family anymore, you are trash!!!"
Where is OP's father in all this?
Block your family ffs
Be a different story if she was already pregnant before they got together, then there wouldn't have been an issue of him raising another guy's kid and not being her biological father
This would make me tell my mother.
What kind of mother are you.And say the same thing to my sister.I mean the son has been done wrong.I just can't
understand this!!
S1: You know what they say about cheaters they support other cheaters. And its looking like she has a past as well as the sister to believe this crap would be ok
His weak ass should of blocked mom and sister after that first call from each...then go absolutely N.C with both...Ask his father if he's ok with their attitude on this subject...but his soft Hallmark/Disney movie upbringing won't let him...BLOCK YOUR FAMILY AND EX
we're is this guy's father did he say? to let the mother and sister betray the son is ridiculous and the father needs to be a man and tell the ladies to shut up and not guilt the son
OP: ALPHA seed (AP) but BETA need (you, her backup plan). The reality is that your STBXW found an ALPHA-CHAD at the gym at tried to baby-trap him. He bailed so she ran back to YOU and her BETA backup plan.
I guess his mother and sister are too stupid, to understand that he has no rights to that little girl!!! DNA absolutely matters in the eyes of the law and if the ex ever gets mad at him she can absolutely take his so-called daughter away and he'd lose all over again as he has no rights!!!
I wonder why all of a sudden your wife, now ex-wife, decided to tell you about the affair and the child.
It is suspicious that your mother and sister sided with your cheating ex-wife.
Did your wife at first think this would never come out. What if there was some medical reason that she needed something from a relative, and then he learns that the child is not him.
I understand where if you had gone back with your wife every time you looked at the child you would know that your wife had cheated. In the end, these memories would destroy you all
If she confessed right away that she had an affair and sought counseling to understand why I could probably forgive it. If she told him she was pregnant and she was not sure who was the father and they made the decision together about what to do then I could understand. But she tool all his agency away from him. She lied and cheated and did not use protection then lied to him about the child not being his for years. Lie after lie after lie piling up. How would he ever trust her again when she has shone herself to be so unworthy of trust? As far as his sister and mother I would tell them they can support their grandaughter and niece if it is that important to them but they do not have the right to ask him to sacrifice his life for their convenience. If the man had an affair baby with another woman I doubt any of them would support him
Too many women want to gamble their future with you on a fling, hoping they can get away with it. Then they don't want to accept that they lost the gamble when they see it all crashing down around them, realize how stupid they are, and have to face that the damage is irreparably done. Other women are going to defend them because they all think alike. They want to be able to get away with stuff like that at the cost of their husband's self respect and dignity. And yeah, everyone here saying stuff like, "The mother and sister are 100% cheating" is a typical internet bozo who makes definitive conclusions based on a bare minimum of evidence, all with the bravery of being out of range of any repercussions if they are wrong. Nothing is 100% sure. That's why people get into these situations where people blindside them with cheating or something. It's because they make too many assumptions about people and before they know it the image formed by all the assumptions doesn't add up when adversity hits and people show their true colors. Most of the time it's behavior people excuse because it doesn't hurt them, and then when it finally blows up in their face then the person is suddenly a scumbag they want nothing to do with. Nope. Don't just state your boundaries and standards, enforce them as much as you can. That includes not latting a SO do stuff that everyone knows leads to the risk of cheating. Nip it in the bud ASAP. Don't worry about "appearing controlling." Tell them you're controlling of your boundaries and will enforce them come hell or high water. Unless you're dealing with a total sociopath they''ll respect that. If they don't they're either a bully or a coward, neither of which you should allow to advise you.
How is it possible to forgive her! she's saying the other man bailed, it means the husband is a back up plan in her mind when AP didn't want her anymore or his kid.. she already took advantage of her husband totally in anyway possible.. she told him about it to break him cuz she doesn't respect him at all.. the fact that she allowed AP to hit it RAW say it all she didn't even worried about STD.. the poor husband didn't get to make his wife pregnant cuz she doesn't allow it.. she doesn't want him as a man for her, she want him as a provider beta stupid male.. she didn't even give him a child of his own in those 3 years out of pity or guilt or whatever, this woman didn't love him at all !! plain and simple, good decision my friend move on.
Women backing your wife is so awful.
Dude grow a pair and get a new gf sette down and have your own kids..
Dude - learn to block numbers.Where are the men in your family? U should get a dna test with your mom and sister.
1st: 100th comment!
2nd: How long did the mom and sister know that, that wasn't his daughter?
this was so fucked up
Bro i want to say one thing
just learn the way of ngolo kante saying thank you
So there where no DNA test to see if she was the daughter or not or did he just took her word that she wasn't ?
Fake
I just hate it when the AI can't even keep its basic premise straight, just to satisfy the misogynists.
That is so sad. Having grown up without a father myself, I could not have abandoned that child. Not after her calling me daddy for three freakin' years.
Well, you're saying it purely out of emotions not out of logic or self respect.