refurb boxes definitely have the most value - good you covered them and stressed this point - faster networking really helps, arrays of cheap ssd and nvme really help, ram, as you mentioned is very important - the more the better! overall a good look at proxmox provisioning - thanks for the content!
I guess I'm in the 1st group. I bought a new in box, HP Z1 G5, i7-8700, 4 core, 32gb RAM, added two cheap Crucial m.2 nvme 1tb drives, has a resident 1tb hdd, added 1tb hdd. 1 gigabit standard, built in NIC. For learning. VMs will be, Mint, Ubuntu, home assistant. That's about it. Loaded lvm-thin. Hardware Opinion? Asking on Proxmox forum results in, I need enterprise hardware. 😅 The box was military surplus, $100. Dell 24" monitor, $30 like new. Thanks for video and advice.
I use VMware ESXI currently. Ive noticed that client VM's run quite a bit slower than on bare metal. Thus, ive been looking at CPU's with higher clock speeds. I have a business VM's currently, so I think I need 64GB to run my VM's. If I was to use a NAS for VM datastore, I think it would need to be on SSD with 10GB links. Otherwise the response is very slow. Im thinking a AMD 7950x would be a good choice with local NVME. What is the minimum number of host nodes to have a quorum? Normally I use 3 on VMware but I have heard 2 will work for Proxmox, is that true?
Going for mid-tier option myself. Pondering between one maxed "gaming hw" server Ryzen7950X/128Gb/RTX4070, or two nodes with cheaper parts but end up costing the same. Is there any idea in trying to build NAS inside the same server, or should it be separate system?
@@fousse7 Nothing huge. I set up some VDI of different flavors. 6 or 7 Linux servers as Dockers hosts with different network setups to try different network, routing, DNS, firewall, etc. config with different services running. A Linux server for practicing command line, and that was about it. Even starting a Docker host with 4GB RAM it quickly needs more and it all adds up. The CPU rare;y ever exceeds single digits util so I think RAM is the most important thing for an active homelab server. None of my services are production. It’s all just learning or testing designs I want to implement in my production setup. I also didn’t like how the testing for different storage layouts and storage management solutions can be limited too, it a lot of that can be mitigates using virtual devices and controllers.
OEM tower servers are a bad value. You pay a premium for the hardware compared to the rack equivalent. Usually aren't much quieter either. If you want a tower server better to buy a super micro board and build your own IMO.
Well, of course, the self-built server will always be cheaper. No argument there. But it requires some knowledge and skills, and you lose a few services like server burn-in, etc.
Yea I've check it out. Those "effects" shouldn't be there. It's some kind of bug in rendering. I was in a big hurry to release to video and I've didn't check the release file. My bad.
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refurb boxes definitely have the most value - good you covered them and stressed this point - faster networking really helps, arrays of cheap ssd and nvme really help, ram, as you mentioned is very important - the more the better! overall a good look at proxmox provisioning - thanks for the content!
Thank you very much for your positive comment. Thank you thank you! Do come back for future videos.
I guess I'm in the 1st group. I bought a new in box, HP Z1 G5, i7-8700, 4 core, 32gb RAM, added two cheap Crucial m.2 nvme 1tb drives, has a resident 1tb hdd, added 1tb hdd. 1 gigabit standard, built in NIC. For learning. VMs will be, Mint, Ubuntu, home assistant. That's about it. Loaded lvm-thin. Hardware Opinion? Asking on Proxmox forum results in, I need enterprise hardware. 😅 The box was military surplus, $100. Dell 24" monitor, $30 like new. Thanks for video and advice.
You're more than welcome! Great to hear what you're building. 💪
Perfect infos vor a newcomer like me 👋☝Greetings from Austria - very well done. LG Erik
Happy to help. Warm regards to Austria Erik!
I use VMware ESXI currently. Ive noticed that client VM's run quite a bit slower than on bare metal.
Thus, ive been looking at CPU's with higher clock speeds. I have a business VM's currently, so I think I need 64GB to run my VM's. If I was to use a NAS for VM datastore, I think it would need to be on SSD with 10GB links. Otherwise the response is very slow. Im thinking a AMD 7950x would be a good choice with local NVME. What is the minimum number of host nodes to have a quorum? Normally I use 3 on VMware but I have heard 2 will work for Proxmox, is that true?
Going for mid-tier option myself. Pondering between one maxed "gaming hw" server Ryzen7950X/128Gb/RTX4070, or two nodes with cheaper parts but end up costing the same. Is there any idea in trying to build NAS inside the same server, or should it be separate system?
I bought a NUC and maxed out the RAM at 64GB. Ran out of RAM in a week and bought a server with 256GB RAM.
Hi, Whare were you running? why did you need way more RAM?
@@fousse7 Nothing huge. I set up some VDI of different flavors. 6 or 7 Linux servers as Dockers hosts with different network setups to try different network, routing, DNS, firewall, etc. config with different services running. A Linux server for practicing command line, and that was about it. Even starting a Docker host with 4GB RAM it quickly needs more and it all adds up. The CPU rare;y ever exceeds single digits util so I think RAM is the most important thing for an active homelab server. None of my services are production. It’s all just learning or testing designs I want to implement in my production setup. I also didn’t like how the testing for different storage layouts and storage management solutions can be limited too, it a lot of that can be mitigates using virtual devices and controllers.
hi Tom Hardy are you have powerpoint presentation for this ?
nope
OEM tower servers are a bad value. You pay a premium for the hardware compared to the rack equivalent. Usually aren't much quieter either. If you want a tower server better to buy a super micro board and build your own IMO.
Well, of course, the self-built server will always be cheaper. No argument there. But it requires some knowledge and skills, and you lose a few services like server burn-in, etc.
These effects of pictures are terrible. Just show it and leave IT, please. But thanks for the video, I like it.
Noted, thanks for your feedback!
Yea I've check it out. Those "effects" shouldn't be there. It's some kind of bug in rendering. I was in a big hurry to release to video and I've didn't check the release file. My bad.
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