@@Dinkledorf98 Yeah there are some reaches in this video. A shamrock in an Irish bar isn't symbolism, and the same goes for an American flag in a courtroom.
I just call it the Red Line even if I'm traveling on the Community Rail or Silver Line or whatever because every single one of my commutes begins or ends at a Red Line stop.
Weird I’m Irish (as in actually born and raised in Ireland) and I never noticed the Irish symbolism in good will hunting. To me they were just rich and poor Americans.
Yeah man you’d be surprised how strong the Irish identity is here in Northeast cities like Boston and New York. Honestly I noticed all that Irish stuff but I didn’t even see it as symbolism- frankly, that’s just what Boson looks like most of the time.
@@brendansmith5529 Its like here in LA with the chicanos who idolize Mexico and fly the flag with pride and do it everywhere, but meanwhile in actual Mexico nobody really cares. Over there its more of what region, state, or class you come from, or if you're an "indio" or have lighter skin in places like Mexico City.
When he says the camera starts south of Boston, what he's talking about is A SCENE in the movie "THE TOWN" which THE MOVIE takes place in Charlestown. That's why there's a shot hovering over the Bunker Hill monument.
@@roxxylala26 If that is indeed the explanation it is still a very questionable production decision, especially in a video that is attempting to educate. He's showing a completely unrelated visual when previously all narration had specifically pertained to the visuals on screen. You wouldn't presuppose that the audience is familiar enough with all Boston movies to make this leap with you "Oh, now he's just talking about something else and showing 'B-roll'"
@@thomasleonard8789 I will have say that I do concur with your assessment on it being a little confusing in regards to the narration & the visual matchingl in that specific spot in the video. But if you would've replayed it AGAIN, he does refer to "THE TOWN" at the same time showing the Bunker Hill monument. BUT talking about a SCENE in that movie that starts of south of Boston & ends in Cambridge. You could've easily googled "The Town" & your confusion would've been solved. No biggie, a real Bostonian showed you the way. Good day
@@desertrose0601 It seems I watched a totally different film. For me it was about Will's inner fights, his abuse, his self-doubt, the missing parental figures, the opening up to the psychologist.
liked this a lot but left unexamined is the fact that Damon and Affleck grew up in Cambridge, which makes their portrayal of Cambridge v. Southie that much more fascinating.
As a man who has lived in boston his entire life, I can say that all the movie stereotypes are confined into like 3 neighborhoods in reality. The people from southie who act like the pricks you see in movies are generally the middle aged drunks. Younger people are generally more chill. But we almost all have a huge amount of love for the city. And I hate the boston accent thing. We dont all sound like that, and most people who have that accent dont have it as strong as movies show.
I think in general, the population of people with urban regional accents has been slowly decreasing in America, in favor of the nonregional accent. There will eventually come a day when all regional urban accents in movies will be nothing but fictional references to the past, just like the Southie-Cambridge conflict examined in the video
z beeblebrox It’s the same in every country. I’m from Dublin and more and more people especially the young are getting a similar accent even if born into different classes. You’ll only hear heavy Dublin accents in old boozers in town these days from auld fellas
ClockworkAlex yeah I lived there for a few years, and there was way less of a divide, lots of local guys in Harvard actually now, and more hanging out in the same places, like bars downtown around Fenway. New York is way more divided now.
Something ironic about using the Irish flag to represent Irish Catholics is that its design actually represents the overall conflict between them and the British Protestants. The green represents the southern Republicans, the orange the Ulster Unionists, and the white implies a possible union between the two in a United Ireland. The Famine disproportionately affected the rural Catholics of the West, which led to the immigration to areas like Boston, and a similar dynamic to form between them and the Protestants there. So flying the tricolour in the name of an "us" against a "them" really misses the whole point of it. Then again, it's also the flag of the Republic, and not the entire island, so maybe it's apt. Source: I got like a C in Junior Cert History
I found that out at one point hearing someone talk in a restaurant. A few years later, I forgot it was St. Patrick's Day and wore an orange shirt to work. Someone asked me why, and I paused for a second and said, "I'm Protestant." Good thing I wasn't in Fishtown in Philly when that happened.
As someone from Boston, I always find stereotypes like this fascinating particularly when it comes to accents. Bostonians and people from Cambridge both have distinct accents, but 90% of the people in those areas don't have any accent at all. Most of the people with those stereotypical accents are older (all the people I've met with those types of accents are older- 60+). I also think that it's interesting that other Boston neighborhoods outside Southie don't really get represented. Boston has a massive Italian American section as well called the North End that is prominent in the city that we never see on screen.
Thank you! I always notice how the Italian population is ignored with Boston. It's always the Italians in New York/Jersey and Irish in Boston. I have also noticed the accent is stronger in the suburbs (my family is from the north shore and it is STRONG).
The Italians in Boston are like the Irish in that they moved up and moved out of many of their traditional neighborhoods. We used to go to Italian mass in the North End at Easter and Christmas. No one under age 50 could speak Italian. The North End is yuppies, recent college grads, and very old Italians.
Same with the South. Southern accents are mostly coming from age 60+ residents - mostly rural. Big southern cities & the under age 50 have no southern accent.
@@cmdrfelix1286 ...and nearly absent in the Western suburbs. SUPER strong as you go south down 24, in Taunton, Brockton reaching an almost meshing of NY and Boston accents in the Eastern Providence suburbs.
Kenneth Chan Yeah, i live in Quincy actually. These days we are considered “Greater Boston” but really Anything the T touches is BOSTON. Commuter Rail doesnt count though when using that rule
@@the__gatz962 My bad, I guess your right, in regarding Dot as part of being part of "Boston". As a long time resident of Massachusetts I never did since Cambridge isn't. I associate the South End, South Boston, Downtown, Beacon Hill, North End etc as Boston not Dorchester. But I stand corrected.
@@the__gatz962 exactly funny you say that . i moved down the south shore for a few years to save some money and reopen a business now i am working on moving back to somerville. i get these realtors calling me back with places on the commutter rail. im like first of all I said somerville. but you can take the train? WHAT I HAVE A GREAT PLACE IN WOBURN OR STONEHAM nooooooooo! i said i would consider other areas on the T that means the subway lol
My maternal grandparents both grew up in Sommerville, which is just North of Cambridge. This was in the 1930s and 40s. The were both Catholic (Grandmother Irish, Grandfather Portuguese), both lived in lower middle-class families. When they were married in 1953 they lived in Roxbury, Rockland and a few other places before settling in Needham (about 15 miles South-West of Boston) in 1967 (same year the Red Sox went to the World Series). They lived there ever since, though my grandmother died a few years ago. Irish Catholic families are BIG. My mom has over 40 1st cousins just on her mom's side of the family. I don't think I have a single relative that lives in South Boston (Southie). Most live in the suburbs South of Boston such as Hull, Cohasset, Weymouth, even on Cape Cod or they moved out of state. North of Boston isn't just the elite. Even parts of Cambridge are lower-class. Boston also has a huge influx of students from all over. Most of the people I know that live in Boston are not originally from Boston. The days of Irish being the "lower class" are long gone, though some may still feel that way. I think we put a lot of this "Underdog" mentality into our sports teams, especially the Red Sox. Until 2004 no one alive had seen them win the World Series and they always lost to the Yankees. I didn't think of it at the time but the Red Sox in the early 2000's liked to portray themselves as a scrappy, messy team who never shaved or got a hair cut. The Yankees were the opposite, clean shaven, high-class talent (expensive). I think a lot of it may have been a call back to the old Elite/Lower Class dynamic. Winning World Series and Super Bowls hasn't changed the fact that we are always the underdog from little Old Boston. Great video. Made me think about my roots more.
A very good video. I have family in Springfield, French Catholics, and many are married to Irish. I've also visited Boston many times and have family there. I've noticed the very stark class distinctions even when visiting as a child. While I've never seen any outright WASP vs Catholic conflict, I did find the Harvard crowd to be pretentious and absolutely full of themselves, and I heard how they talk down to the underclass, like security guards, cops and firemen. While I've seen my share of class pretension growing up on the wealthy west side of Los Angeles, it was never so starkly delineated as it is in Boston where you can literally have two parks across the street from each other and the wealthy and working-class mother self-segregate. They don't mix and their children don't mix. As Boston is becoming more and more expensive it will become an elite island of its own, a monoclass city like San Franscisco and New York.
It's yuppie town, now. During the Big Dig, we had an office right on Dorchester Ave., surrounded by smaller industry and the projects. That's the Southie I see in Good Will Hunting.
Lots of good observations in this, but the geography seems confused. Cambridge is not part of Boston, and South Boston is not all of Boston. Lines like "Irish were relegated to South Boston, below the Charles River" at 1:15 are odd; while it's true S.Boston is south of the Charles, they aren't really near one another. Beacon Hill and the Financial District (of Boston) are between them. The most egregious errors start at 6:27. While lots of movies and TV shows do show the Charles River, as the narrator says, the shot here is at the mouth of the Mystic River looking south toward the harbor. And at 6:42 the shot is not "looking from South Boston north across the Charles" because again, you can't look across the Charles from South Boston because they are not next to one another! The shot is from Beacon Hill towards Cambridge. At 6:50 he says "the camera starts South of Boston", but what's on screen is the Bunker Hill Monument, which is in Charlestown - a neighborhood to the north of downtown Boston and Southie. So the camera is pointed SOUTH from Charlestown, not NORTH from South Boston!
Exactly. The Charles River is not the dividing line at all. It runs straight through the heart of affluent parts of Boston. The only thing it separates is what kind of elite a person is: Educational elites to the north and political/financial elites to the south - and this is still a bit of a generalization.
Thank you for saying all of this. I was enjoying the video but gritting my teeth at the incorrect geography and the general misconception that “working class and Irish Boston” means Southie. There are some good observations in the video but everyone not from Boston seems to have the impression from movies that Southie is everything south of the Charles River and where all the Irish people live. They need to take a look at a map. Being a working class Irish American from north of the river I take this as a personal insult!
As someone who's seen a ton of Boston-based movies and has a genuine affection for the city, this video BLEW my mind. From the Irish symbolism in GWH, to the associations around Dunkin', and the representation of Boston women; all of it was incredibly fascinating!
The ivy League hatred is real, as is the Charles river divide. I got in a fight once as a visiting band member from Cornell at a Harvard football game. Kids arriving from poorer neighborhoods practically attacked our band as it marched out of the stadium. Not necessarily Irish kids but working class. True story.
Charlestown "The Town" (gritty) and Cambridge (elite) are on the same side of the Charles. Southie, South Boston (gritty) and Downtown Boston and Back Bay (elite) are also on the same side of the Charles (the opposite side from The Town and Cambridge. ) So there goes that one.
Yep, that scene he showed while mentioning "The Town" was Charlestown north of Boston, not Southie. You can immediately tell by the Bunker Hill monument.
This is fascinating; as a German, I never picked up on any of that, as I don't have any association with Boston. That could be an interesting topic for a video; how the difference in values and associations between different societies possibly influenced different films' success and maybe the way Hollywood creates movies to appeal to a more global audience.
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I'm currently working on a scene from Good Will Hunting for an acting class and I came across this video doing research on Boston and it's history. I learned so much (I'm from Germany and didn't know a lot about the Irish people in America) and it inspired me deeply. Thank you so much!
Enjoyable essay as usual. I'm less sure of the particulars of your thesis in this one than some of your others, but hey, it definitely held my attention!
@@oof-rr5nf What I mean is that the _argument_ is ultimately unclear, or maybe just underdeveloped. EFaP makes video essays, right? In each one he's trying to convince his viewer of something. Well in this one I'm mostly unconvinced because I'm not positive what he's trying to claim. Again, tho, great video nonetheless .
I love how he keeps saying that you're upper class if you're from the Cambridge side of the Charles River. Well, I was born and raised in Cambridge, and grew up in one of the many shitty housing projects there. Believe me, Cambridge is not all elite! Yeah, there's Harvard & M.I.T., and some incredibly rich areas, but there's also the crappy neighborhoods that I grew up in too. Just as there is in any city.
I wonder there is any poor areas today in Cambridge tiday, considering it’s not super large area, and gentrification filling in any place that was once previously affordable.
Even though all the symbolism in "Good Will Hunting" seems purposely placed a lot of it is most likely coincidental because in Irish neighborhoods all those symbols are everywhere. You would have to try hard to not see them. The same goes for the yups at MIT...Any time there is an event by those crowds you're always gonna see American Flags prominently displayed. As for their jackets, those 2 jackets were insanely popular here in Massachusetts, not just with Irish kids. That being said, I still think you did a very good job to find those little "Easter Eggs" throughout the movie, whether they were intentional or not. Haha
i was thinking the same thing when i was younger i dressed pretty much the same as goodwill hunting. i even remember having a pure green pair of sweatpants i’d wear often lol
I’m from Worcester, MA. My dad is a Swede and my ma is Lithuanian. There are strong communities for both these groups, yet everyone I meet out west asks me what Irish bar I grew up in
Honestly, I’m Irish, I didn’t know there were those communities in Boston at all. People will ask mostly because they don’t get to study it in school to learn more about it and they won’t learn it from other people even in talking because it wouldn’t come up. Mostly people ask about the Irish because we’re famous. The stereotypical Boston accent is half from us and half from the English Puritans of East Anglia.
Don’t worry there’s a large Portuguese community that everyone forgets about too. The only movie we got was Mystic Pizza and they don’t even pronounce Portuguese right 🤦🏻♀️ “Porch-oo-geese” not Friggin’ “port-u-geeez” Julia Roberts did us a disservice 🤣
Worked in Southie from 1980 to 1997. What an experience! I was living in the North Shore (Salem) and it was like going to a different country every day. Great people, very fun times.
Eh, we aren’t the plastic paddies people think we are. I mean, my grandparents came from Ireland to MA in the 30’s, but my nana was Protestant, which is kinda why they left. The only thing we have in common with the Irish is the banter and how we go about funerals. As a Masshole, I feel like Bostonians have more in common with Australians than anyone else in the Anglosphere, including the accent
It can be esp since me and others from the area dont watch all this media shit with these images that much. A lot of it wasnt even like this tbh. Just close into the downtown more like those select parts people film when doing movies.
Irish immigrants (to the USA) had practically the same difficulties that Italians had. And if it wasn't enough both flags are very similar. Brothers, no doubts.
@@juliettailor1616 Im Italian, and guess what, at a time 2 other italians, one even browner than me, called me a mexican. The last name I had both didnt notice as Italian which was a fucking riot. ITS MEXICAN NACHO! Im like um no its not. So people bicker over things like that still. and sometimes u would be called a hick if u lived in a town someone didnt know. as far as irish and italian fights over culture though, I didnt see a ton of it. I do believe the Irish hated the blacks though as well as the puerto ricans. Some Italians also did.
@@juliettailor1616 I grew up beside Lowell. I had uncles in Boston but I didnt live in Boston. I am not sicilian, i had a different sounding last name than the other italians, I am taller and I guess ppl didnt know what I was. but mexican of all things was assumed in this situation. And I have not been to Italy wtf.. U seem quite irritated I hope u're not on a period
The majority of Italians are racially (yeah sorry to use that word) light skinned, you aren't, I take it. It's an understandable mistake. I have Sicilian relatives (by marriage, I have no Italian blood) from the North End. I got to know them and the culture fairly well.
Im from Australia but i've been a celtics fans since I was a kid, i always loved Boston and identified with the hard nosed blue collar stereotype. If i ever go to the states it'll definitely be my first stop
I knew before the video started that Shipping Up To Boston would play. And honestly it's the most annoying thing about movies set in Boston. It's become a near requirement to play it at least once.
I'm surprised there wasn't any mention of Boston's North End, with its own Catholic roots traced back to Italy and how the two sometimes match up and sometimes have motives opposite of each other. Bostonians aren't all Irish Catholics or English Protestants. There's also a sizeable Polish Catholic community there, too.
@@Udontkno7 True, though I was commenting specifically on the specific Boston stereotype they were trying to highlight. There is a large, vibrant black Protestant community in Boston from many different places...but I'm not as familiar with it since I'm not specifically from Boston but I mean, Boston is a multi-cultural city like many other places.
The North End was a Jewish neighborhood before it became Italian. Those immigration waves happened at about the same time, which is why Little Italy & the Lower East Side were next to each other in NYC. Boston also has had sizeable Greek & Portuguese populations (maybe more than Polish).
Polish, Italian, Irish, Jewish, Haitian, Dominican, Puerto Rican, Brazilian, Vietnamese, Portuguese, and many more The Protestant vs. Irish narrative is extremely reductive and ignores most of Boston's history, *especially* the busing crisis and blockbusting, which really defined the city politically and were definitely not "Irish Catholic vs. English Protestant". Also that guy Marky Mark blinded in 1988 definitely wasn't a WASP... It saddens me that movies convinced people my city is just one extremely dumb stereotype
@@ethanelephants4740 I went to Tufts University for college and didn't have a car back then, so JP was pretty far away from me. But, I did go to Cambridge and downtown Boston a lot and remember there being a very wide mix of different cultures and nationalities in the area.
Some parts described as South Boston are actually parts of CharlesTown and East Boston (my part) and Charles river is separating Wealthy Cambridge From Boston's Wealthiest neighborhoods. Other than that, I love the video for these Irish references that I have never notice.
Not much of a story to tell. I used to work for a tent company putting up tents for all kinds of events in the Boston area. On any given day you could be working on the Charles setting up for some elite function, putting up tents the size of football fields for Harvard or MIT graduation. On this particular day we showed up at Harvard and we were told that they were filming a Robin Williams movie.
At 6:30 you talk about the Charles River, this shot is from the Tobin Bridge overlooking the Mystic River. Otherwise, i enjoyed your video, thanks for sharing 👍 👍
Not bad, but he continually confuses Southie and Charlestown. They don't even border each other. Charlestown is North of the Charles River. Same side as Cambridge. Southie isn't even near the Charles. It's on the other side of Fort Point Channel. There's like, a LOT of Boston between the Charles and Southie.
Would love to see a Boston movie that shows Boston as it is now with the Irish as elites, and the new immigrants are the Vietnamese, Haitians, and Portuguese
It's pretty crazy when you're from Cambridge and you read comments about people in Boston and you think to yourself, "Wow, these Interweb citizens reside less than a few miles away from me at this very moment"
Im second generation Irish American and what’s funny is my Irish grandparents and great grandparents all settled in Cambridge. That’s where I grew up. We are also very Catholic. What’s even funnier is now that I’m an adult I live in Southie I did the opposite of Matt Damon I Good Will Hunting. Lol
sometimes i wonder if all that irish vs upper class imagery you showed in good will hunting is really good thought out writing and directing or just happy accidents
thanks for pointing to all these details in good will hunting.. Wow, I'm amazed how much effort is put into these seemingly background things by directors
My great grandmother left Ireland on a boat when she was 19 and came to America, ending up in Southie. I have very deep Boston roots. It’ll always be my home even if I don’t live in Mass anymore. When I get together with my Southie cousins, there are no R’s to be had kehd.
i think this is maybe the video most congruent with your channel name - i will never watch good will hunting the same. the ireland bunting at 3:25 and Robin Williams basically leprechaun cosplaying
I’m Irish (born and raised) and I got a work & travel visa last summer to work in Boston (I worked in Southie). I had never even heard of Southie before and my perception of it was that it was more so upper class. Lots of Rich kids would come into the place where I worked. The people I worked with loved Southie and had so much pride for it.
@@chompo14lastname41 I know it's old and I see your point, it's not like he spoiled a movie that's just come out. I just wish he would have simply put a quick spoiler alert. with movie and books, there will always be people who haven't seen it or read it
Whaaa!! The movie is ancient dude. I think spoilers alerts after this much time is a bit ridiculous. Sorry, but the world does not revolve around your schedule.
Ha. My dad is always referring to people as lace curtain. There were really tough working class areas of both Boston and Cambridge. Harvard square was filled with punks and beggars through the 90s. It was just part of its charm.
Not gonna lie all Irish flags and imagery in most of the shots blew my mind. Never even realized that before. Awesome video
I am from Boston and I thought that it was just an authentic set
Yea me too I've watched Good Will Hunting a number of times and never noticed the color scheme or the Irish Flag in Wills house.
Funny as I'm in Boston for the summer
Just goes to show how much work ACTUALLY goes into each and every shot of a movie.
@@Dinkledorf98 Yeah there are some reaches in this video. A shamrock in an Irish bar isn't symbolism, and the same goes for an American flag in a courtroom.
“It’s like a less gay and more racist San Fransisco” - bill burr, paraphrase
I think he said "It's like San Francisco but with the N word".
maybe. but Bostons still pretty gay and San Fran is pretty racist.
@@notsure6187 Nah, Provincetown is hoarding most of the gay, especially during summer.
@@notsure6187 boston (people not the city) is pretty anti gay in my experience tbh
And less shit and needles in the streets
Haaaa this guy called the T the subway. What a charactah.
I just call it the Red Line even if I'm traveling on the Community Rail or Silver Line or whatever because every single one of my commutes begins or ends at a Red Line stop.
Obito Sigma kinda weird but ight
Natalia Edwards That’s what it’s called
Seriously that sounded weird to hear
Olive juice no its not. not all lines are the red line
"Where do Boston stereotypes come from?"
Boston *roll credits*
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I clicked on this video for this comment lol
This is the perfect comment.
Weird I’m Irish (as in actually born and raised in Ireland) and I never noticed the Irish symbolism in good will hunting. To me they were just rich and poor Americans.
i dont think you need to convince people your irish considering you have the most irish name since st patrick o'carbomb
Yeah man you’d be surprised how strong the Irish identity is here in Northeast cities like Boston and New York. Honestly I noticed all that Irish stuff but I didn’t even see it as symbolism- frankly, that’s just what Boson looks like most of the time.
@@Udontkno7 Now You See It
They are, paddy. They are.
@@brendansmith5529 Its like here in LA with the chicanos who idolize Mexico and fly the flag with pride and do it everywhere, but meanwhile in actual Mexico nobody really cares. Over there its more of what region, state, or class you come from, or if you're an "indio" or have lighter skin in places like Mexico City.
As a Bostonian, I see it as one of those cities where it’s technically famous, but no one ever really talks about ut.
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So true, and it's a shame! One of the coolest cities in the country, in my opinion :)
@@iceberghoney no, it’s the f**k best!👍
@@Fy12-c5p you're so right haha
@@iceberghoney I too am a bostonian,so of course I know which is the best state out of them all! Plus SOMEONE made scp-4006.
@6:51 "the camera starts south of Boston" ... brother that is from the bunker hill memorial looking south at Boston.
When he says the camera starts south of Boston, what he's talking about is A SCENE in the movie "THE TOWN" which THE MOVIE takes place in Charlestown. That's why there's a shot hovering over the Bunker Hill monument.
@@roxxylala26 If that is indeed the explanation it is still a very questionable production decision, especially in a video that is attempting to educate. He's showing a completely unrelated visual when previously all narration had specifically pertained to the visuals on screen. You wouldn't presuppose that the audience is familiar enough with all Boston movies to make this leap with you "Oh, now he's just talking about something else and showing 'B-roll'"
@@thomasleonard8789 I will have say that I do concur with your assessment on it being a little confusing in regards to the narration & the visual matchingl in that specific spot in the video. But if you would've replayed it AGAIN, he does refer to "THE TOWN" at the same time showing the Bunker Hill monument. BUT talking about a SCENE in that movie that starts of south of Boston & ends in Cambridge. You could've easily googled "The Town" & your confusion would've been solved. No biggie, a real Bostonian showed you the way. Good day
goodwill had the red line at sunset crossing the Charles River, but pretended it was early morning.
I'm always so fascinated with these video and all the little things i miss during the film but once recognised it very obvious
Now you see it.
Wow, I've not noticed the "southy" dilemma in Good Will Hunting. But I'm from Germany, so this wasn't clear to me.
I haven’t seen that alex day thingy in so long holy shit I just had a time trip
*Southie
Pretty sure that was the entire plot though. A poor kid from the poor side of town who couldn’t afford college but was really smart.
desertrose0601 “Wicked Smaht!”
@@desertrose0601 It seems I watched a totally different film. For me it was about Will's inner fights, his abuse, his self-doubt, the missing parental figures, the opening up to the psychologist.
liked this a lot but left unexamined is the fact that Damon and Affleck grew up in Cambridge, which makes their portrayal of Cambridge v. Southie that much more fascinating.
As a man who has lived in boston his entire life, I can say that all the movie stereotypes are confined into like 3 neighborhoods in reality. The people from southie who act like the pricks you see in movies are generally the middle aged drunks. Younger people are generally more chill. But we almost all have a huge amount of love for the city. And I hate the boston accent thing. We dont all sound like that, and most people who have that accent dont have it as strong as movies show.
I think in general, the population of people with urban regional accents has been slowly decreasing in America, in favor of the nonregional accent. There will eventually come a day when all regional urban accents in movies will be nothing but fictional references to the past, just like the Southie-Cambridge conflict examined in the video
I also grew up in Boston...and it is a rare day indeed when I hear a truly distinct Boston accent
My grandparents are from Dorchester and have thick accents while none of my cousins or siblings have anywhere near a Boston accent
z beeblebrox It’s the same in every country. I’m from Dublin and more and more people especially the young are getting a similar accent even if born into different classes. You’ll only hear heavy Dublin accents in old boozers in town these days from auld fellas
ClockworkAlex yeah I lived there for a few years, and there was way less of a divide, lots of local guys in Harvard actually now, and more hanging out in the same places, like bars downtown around Fenway. New York is way more divided now.
6:53 that’s not south of Boston. That’s Charlestown. South Boston’s not even in the shot
michael Garrity I was thinking the same thing lol
The shot of the L street tavern was real. I've never been inside so can't vouch for it's authenticity.
Ken Hudson I don’t know. Some of his landmarks are off to fit his argument I believe
Yeah he doesn’t really make a distinction as Boston/ charlestown and southie
I was gonna say that too. They're looking at the Zakim right at the Garden. From C-town.
Something ironic about using the Irish flag to represent Irish Catholics is that its design actually represents the overall conflict between them and the British Protestants. The green represents the southern Republicans, the orange the Ulster Unionists, and the white implies a possible union between the two in a United Ireland. The Famine disproportionately affected the rural Catholics of the West, which led to the immigration to areas like Boston, and a similar dynamic to form between them and the Protestants there. So flying the tricolour in the name of an "us" against a "them" really misses the whole point of it. Then again, it's also the flag of the Republic, and not the entire island, so maybe it's apt.
Source: I got like a C in Junior Cert History
I always think about this when they burn the tricolour up north
Free state flag is not the real thing mo chara
@@TheKavo97 are you talking about the tricolour? Because I said it wasn't the flag of the island of Ireland
@PF G I mean, it's South of the North
I found that out at one point hearing someone talk in a restaurant. A few years later, I forgot it was St. Patrick's Day and wore an orange shirt to work. Someone asked me why, and I paused for a second and said, "I'm Protestant." Good thing I wasn't in Fishtown in Philly when that happened.
As someone from Boston, I always find stereotypes like this fascinating particularly when it comes to accents. Bostonians and people from Cambridge both have distinct accents, but 90% of the people in those areas don't have any accent at all. Most of the people with those stereotypical accents are older (all the people I've met with those types of accents are older- 60+). I also think that it's interesting that other Boston neighborhoods outside Southie don't really get represented. Boston has a massive Italian American section as well called the North End that is prominent in the city that we never see on screen.
Thank you! I always notice how the Italian population is ignored with Boston. It's always the Italians in New York/Jersey and Irish in Boston. I have also noticed the accent is stronger in the suburbs (my family is from the north shore and it is STRONG).
The Italians in Boston are like the Irish in that they moved up and moved out of many of their traditional neighborhoods. We used to go to Italian mass in the North End at Easter and Christmas. No one under age 50 could speak Italian. The North End is yuppies, recent college grads, and very old Italians.
Is the Irish curse real like do people really think that?
Same with the South. Southern accents are mostly coming from age 60+ residents - mostly rural. Big southern cities & the under age 50 have no southern accent.
@@cmdrfelix1286 ...and nearly absent in the Western suburbs. SUPER strong as you go south down 24, in Taunton, Brockton reaching an almost meshing of NY and Boston accents in the Eastern Providence suburbs.
Dunkin Donuts is from Quincy, MA, which is close to Boston.
Kenneth Chan Yeah, i live in Quincy actually. These days we are considered “Greater Boston” but really Anything the T touches is BOSTON. Commuter Rail doesnt count though when using that rule
What? Quincy is not that close to Boston.
roxxylala26 its right over the bridge from dorchester which is literally BOSTON lol
@@the__gatz962 My bad, I guess your right, in regarding Dot as part of being part of "Boston". As a long time resident of Massachusetts I never did since Cambridge isn't. I associate the South End, South Boston, Downtown, Beacon Hill, North End etc as Boston not Dorchester. But I stand corrected.
@@the__gatz962 exactly funny you say that . i moved down the south shore for a few years to save some money and reopen a business now i am working on moving back to somerville. i get these realtors calling me back with places on the commutter rail. im like first of all I said somerville. but you can take the train? WHAT I HAVE A GREAT PLACE IN WOBURN OR STONEHAM nooooooooo! i said i would consider other areas on the T that means the subway lol
This was one of the smoothest transitions to an ad I've seen in a video
My maternal grandparents both grew up in Sommerville, which is just North of Cambridge. This was in the 1930s and 40s. The were both Catholic (Grandmother Irish, Grandfather Portuguese), both lived in lower middle-class families. When they were married in 1953 they lived in Roxbury, Rockland and a few other places before settling in Needham (about 15 miles South-West of Boston) in 1967 (same year the Red Sox went to the World Series). They lived there ever since, though my grandmother died a few years ago.
Irish Catholic families are BIG. My mom has over 40 1st cousins just on her mom's side of the family. I don't think I have a single relative that lives in South Boston (Southie). Most live in the suburbs South of Boston such as Hull, Cohasset, Weymouth, even on Cape Cod or they moved out of state.
North of Boston isn't just the elite. Even parts of Cambridge are lower-class. Boston also has a huge influx of students from all over. Most of the people I know that live in Boston are not originally from Boston.
The days of Irish being the "lower class" are long gone, though some may still feel that way. I think we put a lot of this "Underdog" mentality into our sports teams, especially the Red Sox. Until 2004 no one alive had seen them win the World Series and they always lost to the Yankees. I didn't think of it at the time but the Red Sox in the early 2000's liked to portray themselves as a scrappy, messy team who never shaved or got a hair cut. The Yankees were the opposite, clean shaven, high-class talent (expensive). I think a lot of it may have been a call back to the old Elite/Lower Class dynamic. Winning World Series and Super Bowls hasn't changed the fact that we are always the underdog from little Old Boston.
Great video. Made me think about my roots more.
If ya didn't know...Somerville is for the richhhhh now. & it's full of us Catholic Portagees!!!
Tons of working class Portuguese in Somerville. I'm one of them.
are you sure your from boston? Red sox won the world series 5 times before 2004...1903,1912,1915.1916,and 1918
@@anthonyciaramitaro6126 Yeah I was gonna call him out on that too
@@anthonyciaramitaro6126 I meant I (or really anyone still alive) had never seen them win the World Series. I should have been more clear about that.
Could you do a video about fire in movies? I always get the feeling that it has a lot to analyze
Bane: Fire rises
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Fire in Shutter Island was essential. [SPOILERS]
When fire was in the scene it suggested the main character was disillusioned.
@@fabooshka Yeah, that movie was the one that actually inspired me to recommend this idea
A very good video. I have family in Springfield, French Catholics, and many are married to Irish. I've also visited Boston many times and have family there. I've noticed the very stark class distinctions even when visiting as a child. While I've never seen any outright WASP vs Catholic conflict, I did find the Harvard crowd to be pretentious and absolutely full of themselves, and I heard how they talk down to the underclass, like security guards, cops and firemen. While I've seen my share of class pretension growing up on the wealthy west side of Los Angeles, it was never so starkly delineated as it is in Boston where you can literally have two parks across the street from each other and the wealthy and working-class mother self-segregate. They don't mix and their children don't mix. As Boston is becoming more and more expensive it will become an elite island of its own, a monoclass city like San Franscisco and New York.
Will Hunting could never afford to live in today’s Southie! He’d be going West to survive
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Yarr he’d be in Lowell, Haverhill, or Billerica
None of those places are cheap either lol
It's yuppie town, now. During the Big Dig, we had an office right on Dorchester Ave., surrounded by smaller industry and the projects. That's the Southie I see in Good Will Hunting.
The deep south also.. like im gonna have to do.
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It is kinda wild how Boston is basically a mid-sized city but it occupies such a big place in media
Greater Boston is pretty big and that’s what they are generally referring to.
Lots of good observations in this, but the geography seems confused. Cambridge is not part of Boston, and South Boston is not all of Boston. Lines like "Irish were relegated to South Boston, below the Charles River" at 1:15 are odd; while it's true S.Boston is south of the Charles, they aren't really near one another. Beacon Hill and the Financial District (of Boston) are between them.
The most egregious errors start at 6:27. While lots of movies and TV shows do show the Charles River, as the narrator says, the shot here is at the mouth of the Mystic River looking south toward the harbor.
And at 6:42 the shot is not "looking from South Boston north across the Charles" because again, you can't look across the Charles from South Boston because they are not next to one another! The shot is from Beacon Hill towards Cambridge.
At 6:50 he says "the camera starts South of Boston", but what's on screen is the Bunker Hill Monument, which is in Charlestown - a neighborhood to the north of downtown Boston and Southie. So the camera is pointed SOUTH from Charlestown, not NORTH from South Boston!
Exactly. The Charles River is not the dividing line at all. It runs straight through the heart of affluent parts of Boston. The only thing it separates is what kind of elite a person is: Educational elites to the north and political/financial elites to the south - and this is still a bit of a generalization.
Thank you. The commentary over the Bunker Hill shot was bothering me.
If there's one group that represents the working class Irish in Boston it's Beacon Hill!
Thanks for clearing this up!!
Thank you for saying all of this. I was enjoying the video but gritting my teeth at the incorrect geography and the general misconception that “working class and Irish Boston” means Southie. There are some good observations in the video but everyone not from Boston seems to have the impression from movies that Southie is everything south of the Charles River and where all the Irish people live. They need to take a look at a map. Being a working class Irish American from north of the river I take this as a personal insult!
As someone who's seen a ton of Boston-based movies and has a genuine affection for the city, this video BLEW my mind. From the Irish symbolism in GWH, to the associations around Dunkin', and the representation of Boston women; all of it was incredibly fascinating!
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The ivy League hatred is real, as is the Charles river divide. I got in a fight once as a visiting band member from Cornell at a Harvard football game. Kids arriving from poorer neighborhoods practically attacked our band as it marched out of the stadium. Not necessarily Irish kids but working class. True story.
literally just watched Good Will Hunting for the first time yesterday
So how did you like them apples?
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Charlestown "The Town" (gritty) and Cambridge (elite) are on the same side of the Charles.
Southie, South Boston (gritty) and Downtown Boston and Back Bay (elite) are also on the same side of the Charles (the opposite side from The Town and Cambridge. )
So there goes that one.
Yep, that scene he showed while mentioning "The Town" was Charlestown north of Boston, not Southie. You can immediately tell by the Bunker Hill monument.
This is fascinating; as a German, I never picked up on any of that, as I don't have any association with Boston. That could be an interesting topic for a video; how the difference in values and associations between different societies possibly influenced different films' success and maybe the way Hollywood creates movies to appeal to a more global audience.
I miss Robin Williams more than some dead relatives
Jeez
Ever since I saw that picture of him wearing the Issey Miyake utility bomber I feel the same 😢😢😢
A true Boston hero:
Mark Walberg as Captain America
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I'm sorry, Mark Walberg is intolerable. I have only ever liked him in The Departed. And he is always playing the same character.
@@oof-rr5nf I'm sorry, Mark Walberg is a God amongst men. The amount of patience you need to have to act in a Transformers movie is immeasurable.
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Captain america wouldn't commit a racist hate crime and not apologise for it.
I'm currently working on a scene from Good Will Hunting for an acting class and I came across this video doing research on Boston and it's history. I learned so much (I'm from Germany and didn't know a lot about the Irish people in America) and it inspired me deeply. Thank you so much!
Enjoyable essay as usual.
I'm less sure of the particulars of your thesis in this one than some of your others, but hey, it definitely held my attention!
Which particulars?
@@oof-rr5nf What I mean is that the _argument_ is ultimately unclear, or maybe just underdeveloped.
EFaP makes video essays, right? In each one he's trying to convince his viewer of something. Well in this one I'm mostly unconvinced because I'm not positive what he's trying to claim.
Again, tho, great video nonetheless .
Couldn't have came up with better soundtrack than Dropkick Murphys.
Indeed! 🤘
I love how he keeps saying that you're upper class if you're from the Cambridge side of the Charles River. Well, I was born and raised in Cambridge, and grew up in one of the many shitty housing projects there. Believe me, Cambridge is not all elite! Yeah, there's Harvard & M.I.T., and some incredibly rich areas, but there's also the crappy neighborhoods that I grew up in too. Just as there is in any city.
I wonder there is any poor areas today in Cambridge tiday, considering it’s not super large area, and gentrification filling in any place that was once previously affordable.
Even though all the symbolism in "Good Will Hunting" seems purposely placed a lot of it is most likely coincidental because in Irish neighborhoods all those symbols are everywhere. You would have to try hard to not see them.
The same goes for the yups at MIT...Any time there is an event by those crowds you're always gonna see American Flags prominently displayed.
As for their jackets, those 2 jackets were insanely popular here in Massachusetts, not just with Irish kids.
That being said, I still think you did a very good job to find those little "Easter Eggs" throughout the movie, whether they were intentional or not. Haha
i was thinking the same thing when i was younger i dressed pretty much the same as goodwill hunting. i even remember having a pure green pair of sweatpants i’d wear often lol
I’m from Worcester, MA.
My dad is a Swede and my ma is Lithuanian. There are strong communities for both these groups, yet everyone I meet out west asks me what Irish bar I grew up in
Cool
Greetings from Stockholm, Sweden :)
ahaha buddy you live in the buscheeks not boston
Honestly, I’m Irish, I didn’t know there were those communities in Boston at all.
People will ask mostly because they don’t get to study it in school to learn more about it and they won’t learn it from other people even in talking because it wouldn’t come up. Mostly people ask about the Irish because we’re famous. The stereotypical Boston accent is half from us and half from the English Puritans of East Anglia.
Don’t worry there’s a large Portuguese community that everyone forgets about too. The only movie we got was Mystic Pizza and they don’t even pronounce Portuguese right 🤦🏻♀️ “Porch-oo-geese” not Friggin’ “port-u-geeez” Julia Roberts did us a disservice 🤣
@@UIAL570 The Irish are infamous!
Worked in Southie from 1980 to 1997. What an experience! I was living in the North Shore (Salem) and it was like going to a different country every day. Great people, very fun times.
Love this channel and the channel a closer look. You guys related at all? Y’all both do an awesome job of video essays.
Could you do a video talking about the importance of titles?
Too obvious, they are used for breastfeeding.
@@nativepangea It says *TITLES*
@@DailyClickbait Big and Bold all the much better.
As an Irish person I felt in my bones that it would have something to do with us before even watching it 😂
Too sensitive for the real Irish.
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Eh, we aren’t the plastic paddies people think we are. I mean, my grandparents came from Ireland to MA in the 30’s, but my nana was Protestant, which is kinda why they left. The only thing we have in common with the Irish is the banter and how we go about funerals. As a Masshole, I feel like Bostonians have more in common with Australians than anyone else in the Anglosphere, including the accent
Were reaching symbolism levels that shouldn't even be possible!
Watching this as someone who was born and raised in Boston, and still lives there, is very amusing lmao
Potato Rebel can’t agree more lol
It can be esp since me and others from the area dont watch all this media shit with these images that much. A lot of it wasnt even like this tbh. Just close into the downtown more like those select parts people film when doing movies.
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I was hoping you’d mention Spotlight, just curious how you might see it fit with these other Boston movies. Excellent video.
Great video! One of your best written ones yet
I just want to mention ow great that segue into the sponsor was. Top notch!
(Not sarcasm. Actual praise.)
Irish immigrants (to the USA) had practically the same difficulties that Italians had. And if it wasn't enough both flags are very similar. Brothers, no doubts.
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Nah, they don't really like each other (Bostonian here). Totally different cultures.
@@juliettailor1616 Im Italian, and guess what, at a time 2 other italians, one even browner than me, called me a mexican. The last name I had both didnt notice as Italian which was a fucking riot. ITS MEXICAN NACHO! Im like um no its not. So people bicker over things like that still. and sometimes u would be called a hick if u lived in a town someone didnt know. as far as irish and italian fights over culture though, I didnt see a ton of it. I do believe the Irish hated the blacks though as well as the puerto ricans. Some Italians also did.
@@juliettailor1616 I grew up beside Lowell. I had uncles in Boston but I didnt live in Boston.
I am not sicilian, i had a different sounding last name than the other italians, I am taller and I guess ppl didnt know what I was. but mexican of all things was assumed in this situation.
And I have not been to Italy wtf..
U seem quite irritated I hope u're not on a period
The majority of Italians are racially (yeah sorry to use that word) light skinned, you aren't, I take it. It's an understandable mistake.
I have Sicilian relatives (by marriage, I have no Italian blood) from the North End. I got to know them and the culture fairly well.
I should really be finishing my summer homework because school starts so soon, but I mean, you uploaded a video so I just HAD to stop..
What type of school gives summer homework. That's wild
aR0ttenBANANA96 tons of schools do. At least in the US
lmao Same, I gotta finish AP Lang in the next two days, right before school starts.
As a Bostonian, thanks.
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10:17 Matt Damon in orangy red, Casey Affleck in white and Ben Affleck in green. Has to be deliberate...
The things you pick up on always blows my mind!!
Thanks for sharing :-)
As a foreigner this really opened my eyes, had never realized watching all of these movies what cultural contemplation they contain :)
Im from Australia but i've been a celtics fans since I was a kid, i always loved Boston and identified with the hard nosed blue collar stereotype. If i ever go to the states it'll definitely be my first stop
I really like this videos. You go straight to the point not wasting anyones time, while providing some NEW interesting insights.
I knew before the video started that Shipping Up To Boston would play. And honestly it's the most annoying thing about movies set in Boston. It's become a near requirement to play it at least once.
I'VE LOST MY LEEEEEEG! * cue bagpipes *
Besides the Departed, tell me more movies, set in Boston, that use that song
That was the greatest Segway into a sponsor ad in the history of TH-cam. Also, great video!
I would Love to see a video done about Stereotypes for other races and other states.
I love how you play The Deli in so many of your videos, subscribed.
I'm surprised there wasn't any mention of Boston's North End, with its own Catholic roots traced back to Italy and how the two sometimes match up and sometimes have motives opposite of each other. Bostonians aren't all Irish Catholics or English Protestants. There's also a sizeable Polish Catholic community there, too.
The north end is almost all Italian
And the Black Protestants, which definitely don't have the same power as English protestants.
@@Udontkno7 True, though I was commenting specifically on the specific Boston stereotype they were trying to highlight. There is a large, vibrant black Protestant community in Boston from many different places...but I'm not as familiar with it since I'm not specifically from Boston but I mean, Boston is a multi-cultural city like many other places.
The North End was a Jewish neighborhood before it became Italian. Those immigration waves happened at about the same time, which is why Little Italy & the Lower East Side were next to each other in NYC. Boston also has had sizeable Greek & Portuguese populations (maybe more than Polish).
@@adamgordon6435 now they all move to brookline and sharon ...still some in the north end but not like back in the day
I must have only watching it a few times, but I never noticed the Irish color schemes in Good Will Hunting. Mind. Blown.
It's Boastan! How do you like them apples!
Bill the Butcher, isn't it?
wanna fight about
I know that I'm like a year late, but Dunkin's is definitely very Boston / Mass. The first shop was opened in Quincy.
Boston... I spent a month there one night.
(Really good video. I have several friends from Boston I'm going to share this with.)
This was a really great video. I loved it. I have never noticed the symbolism you pointed out.
When I think Boston I think of having to ride the T in because driving in the city is somehow an even worse option.
The green line after a sox game taught me patience and pain in equal measure
T R lol
Leo's death in The Departed is one of the scenes that hurt me the most. Sullivan was a good man, he deserved better. Goddamn, what a movie!
The stereotype of Boston might be of Irish-Americans - but Boston happens to be one of the most culturally-diverse cities in the United States.
oh cool!
@Gery A wow dude your world view is hella sad
Polish, Italian, Irish, Jewish, Haitian, Dominican, Puerto Rican, Brazilian, Vietnamese, Portuguese, and many more
The Protestant vs. Irish narrative is extremely reductive and ignores most of Boston's history, *especially* the busing crisis and blockbusting, which really defined the city politically and were definitely not "Irish Catholic vs. English Protestant". Also that guy Marky Mark blinded in 1988 definitely wasn't a WASP...
It saddens me that movies convinced people my city is just one extremely dumb stereotype
You’re not wrong, come see how many Irish you find in JP
@@ethanelephants4740 I went to Tufts University for college and didn't have a car back then, so JP was pretty far away from me. But, I did go to Cambridge and downtown Boston a lot and remember there being a very wide mix of different cultures and nationalities in the area.
Some parts described as South Boston are actually parts of CharlesTown and East Boston (my part) and Charles river is separating Wealthy Cambridge From Boston's Wealthiest neighborhoods. Other than that, I love the video for these Irish references that I have never notice.
I know the Departed was released years ago but I'm not sure those spoilers Werte necessary.
Right?
I immediately remembered Bill Burr talking about the Boston stereotypes when I saw the title. Happy you put him in the beginning of the video.
0:30 I put up that yellow and white tent in the background. True story
dolphwolf do tell
Not much of a story to tell. I used to work for a tent company putting up tents for all kinds of events in the Boston area. On any given day you could be working on the Charles setting up for some elite function, putting up tents the size of football fields for Harvard or MIT graduation. On this particular day we showed up at Harvard and we were told that they were filming a Robin Williams movie.
At 6:30 you talk about the Charles River, this shot is from the Tobin Bridge overlooking the Mystic River. Otherwise, i enjoyed your video, thanks for sharing 👍 👍
Not bad, but he continually confuses Southie and Charlestown. They don't even border each other. Charlestown is North of the Charles River. Same side as Cambridge. Southie isn't even near the Charles. It's on the other side of Fort Point Channel. There's like, a LOT of Boston between the Charles and Southie.
Great video, really good look at what is often going on in Boston movies
Would love to see a Boston movie that shows Boston as it is now with the Irish as elites, and the new immigrants are the Vietnamese, Haitians, and Portuguese
It's pretty crazy when you're from Cambridge and you read comments about people in Boston and you think to yourself, "Wow, these Interweb citizens reside less than a few miles away from me at this very moment"
7:35 *raises the question, it's not circular logic
I love how he flows into the ad, by the time its over, I have seen the whole thing. LOL
Now answer why did The departed have three look a likes as major characters and why did they leave out Ben Affleck to get a 4 way going.
All whites look the same to me.
Scorsese would never cast Affleck
Im second generation Irish American and what’s funny is my Irish grandparents and great grandparents all settled in Cambridge. That’s where I grew up. We are also very Catholic. What’s even funnier is now that I’m an adult I live in Southie I did the opposite of Matt Damon I Good Will Hunting. Lol
Wow. I’m from Boston. This was awesome and so accurate.
sometimes i wonder if all that irish vs upper class imagery you showed in good will hunting is really good thought out writing and directing or just happy accidents
7:37
That's not the proper usage of "begs the question." The phrase you're looking for is "raises the question." They're not related in any way.
I think its a safe use, as he isn't invoking the logical fallacy in any way, or implying one. Call it an alternate meaning of the phrase.
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It's not an alternate meaning, though; it's just a common misuse.
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Nope. Under nobody's definition does "begs" mean "begs for an answer to."
*OBJECTION!*
BEGS AND RAISES IS THE SAME THING IN CONTEXT
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No it's not. In no context does "begs" mean "raises."
Source: www.dictionary.com/browse/beg
thanks for pointing to all these details in good will hunting.. Wow, I'm amazed how much effort is put into these seemingly background things by directors
Whoever recorded this seems to think that everything in the actual city of Boston is 'Southie'
My great grandmother left Ireland on a boat when she was 19 and came to America, ending up in Southie. I have very deep Boston roots. It’ll always be my home even if I don’t live in Mass anymore.
When I get together with my Southie cousins, there are no R’s to be had kehd.
They come from Boston, I'd imagine.
Nice video as always! Well done with the editing at the start with the Dropkick Murphys.
I will say that their addict population is the most bold I've ever seen.
how so ?
i think this is maybe the video most congruent with your channel name - i will never watch good will hunting the same.
the ireland bunting at 3:25 and Robin Williams basically leprechaun cosplaying
I've lived in Boston my whole life.. This video was fun to watch lol
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You're such a beast man crazy good content every vid
I see Bill Burr, I like the video.
Guinness: Unionist Porter.
Fascinating that it's used as a symbol of Catholic Irishness when for years the company refused to employ Catholics.
"when you think of Boston what comes to mind?" Fallout 4
"Park the car in the yard? How about I hammer you in the heart with a haymaker?"
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your videos are the best man. always waiting for the next one lol
I’m Irish (born and raised) and I got a work & travel visa last summer to work in Boston (I worked in Southie).
I had never even heard of Southie before and my perception of it was that it was more so upper class. Lots of Rich kids would come into the place where I worked.
The people I worked with loved Southie and had so much pride for it.
It's become super-gentrified in the past decade or so.
At 6:48 the shot is actually coming from the North, Charlestown/Chelsea area. Not the south as mentioned, but the point still stands.
I loved the video, but I haven't watched The Departed yet and you inserted some massive spoilers without any previous warning :/
Whilst I understand your annoyance, the movie is 13 years old .
Still I’d watch the movie regardless.
It’s really good
@@chompo14lastname41 I know it's old and I see your point, it's not like he spoiled a movie that's just come out. I just wish he would have simply put a quick spoiler alert. with movie and books, there will always be people who haven't seen it or read it
brigister this is a regular complaint. Maybe he can use it a feedback going forward.
In any case , give the Departed a watch .......
@@chompo14lastname41 i'll be sure to check it out! thanks
Whaaa!! The movie is ancient dude. I think spoilers alerts after this much time is a bit ridiculous. Sorry, but the world does not revolve around your schedule.
Ha. My dad is always referring to people as lace curtain. There were really tough working class areas of both Boston and Cambridge. Harvard square was filled with punks and beggars through the 90s. It was just part of its charm.