I have not had to face prison time, but I appreciate hearing your perspective. I'll admit to thinking of federal prison camps as "club feds", but your video has shed light on what prison life is like and how one could make the best of their time. Thanks for sharing this with the public and God bless you and yours.
I never want to go to prison Federal or State. I am thankful for your channel it is very educational and I would recommend it. Most people never give it a thought until them or a loved one or friend is headed there.
I was in FPC Boron. Steak a few times a week, great softball league. We even had a huge swimming pool. Good intelligent people. Never saw one fight. Great experience. I even got a 36 hour furlough with my girlfriend at a near by resort. To bad they deactivated the camp at the turn of the century.
Prison is a restriction on freedom with people you normally would never interact with and you don't want to be there. Any advice given by those being there is worth listening too.
Okay, I watched to the last six minutes. I never thought that the majority of these prisons were actually like country clubs, but to someone in a higher security prison I think the difference would likely seem negligible.
They also changed the sensitivity of the metal detectors to the point I could not pass through even though I had no metal and policy was you could not get in if you could not go through the detector. They would not do a manual wand search.
I was just released from Florence camp. I started at Herlong medium, Big spring low, Lompoc camp, Florence camp. I want to tell you about Florence camp. Not cool. Because of the fci and usp and adx are always on lockdown and they make the campers do all the work 12 hrs a day 7 days a week. The camp is off the hook phones, alcohol, drugs. I have done 8 terms in ca. state prison from level 3 to fire camp and this federal bid. I can be a consultant. I am articulate and knowledgeable. I was in quarantine with a whits collar gentleman and he paid for a consultant. He told me I helped him more and gave him more information than what he paid for. The food at Florence is garbage also. not a good camp. My Mom and Dad also went to federal prison and I visited my Mom at pleasanton when it was co-ed and my Dad at Lompoc camp in the 70s. Found myself in the same camp years later. Taft? I was at McFarland when Taft and McFarland were state prisons or ccfs. I was released on a compassionate release 3 years early. Best Regards
your advice doesn't only apply to people facing prison, that's one thing you should be aware of going forward also. you can help by keeping people from making the same mistakes that landed you and your clients there. although it may reduce your client potential it certainly would be giving back.
Thanks for commenting. Since 2009, I have spoken to hundreds of audiences about the motivations and consequences of white collar crime. Those "cautionary tales" I think have helped business students and executives better understand how their choices could derail their life. I will return to the business school at USC on September 22 to share that same story. I derive a great deal of satisfaction helping others make better decisions. Hope you are well.
Many times they changed the rules on what was acceptable for visitors to wear without notice of any kind. More than once my wife or I had to change some item of clothing we had worn many times before before we were allowed in for visitation.
The problem with this video is that your premise for the discussion is set up to be a side by side comparison which is silly. Of course it isn't a country club, it's prison. You are taking the expression "like a country club..." at face value. People use the expression very loosely and, compared to a higher level institution, camps ARE completely different and a comparatively congenial place in which to do you time. I was 2 years at Sheridan FPC, and I have to say, the place was MUCH better than I could ever have imagined, especially the RDAP Unit #6. The food, staff, living units (large, clean 4 man cubes) and the Oregon setting were, to me, more like residing at a small college than a country club. You are correct though, a high percentage of inmates are mentally unstable and interacting with unstable people is very fraught and difficult. Surrounding yourself with a group of like-minded inmates inoculates you from them for the most part. Also, as you point out, doing positive, healthy things for yourself DAILY makes this obligatory "pit stop" time well spent. Thank-you for sharing...
With respect, ditch the first 1:40 and jump right into it. My contribution would be that ANY custodial situation has greater percentages of violence, disease, and mental illness.
I think you missed the point. It is rather a comparison to the way prisons are like now as to what they were like hundreds of years ago. No one is saying that prisons are like today's country clubs it is rather an analogy to what prisons one were, i.e. today's prisons are like country clubs compared to what prisons were like hundreds of years ago.
White collar prison is club fed compared to blue collar prisons. That lawyer has had a tour of various types of prisons. My belief is that White collar prisons are designed to punish the privileged convicts and re integrate hardened blue collar convicts into society. I had a tour of a 3 level prison back in high school.
White Collar Advice - I do not know the ropes, but these prison officials and employees sound REALLY stupid,unless I am getting a really off target impression.It is a miracle that there are not more escapes!
Did 2 years in Pensacola, it sucked compared to maxwell in Montgomery. Montgomery was a serious country club. Worse thing about being at the camps is being away from your family otherwise it’s easy time. The ones saying it’s hard are usually the blue collar crimes who come In still thinking they are Intitled and whine about having to work. I’ll be truthful to any question asked about the camps. I worked my way down from behind the fence to a camp and all through the transit and con air. A lot being said here is not true
OMG, do people seriously not realize that when people say it's a country club, they're being sarcastic? This guy's actually making a serious comparison between prison and a country club, really? Is this video supposed to be a joke? People actually think it's going to be like a country club?
Hello, I am that guy. Did you watch the video? If you did you would see a client's lawyer tried to appease his client by telling him not to worry about prison because it was a country club. When the white collar defendant heard it was a like a country club he stopped preparing. He figured prison would be easy, a joke. So yes to prove that prison is nothing like a country club I filmed this video. Debunking misperceptions that prison is in some ways like a country club, I think, will help more people take the time to prepare properly.
High Number Yeah, but rich people who pay attorneys 700 something dollars per hour? (Or whatever he said the amount was) What do they think they'll be treated like Al Capone because of their money, or something? I guess they can't wrap their mind around the fact that they're actually going to be treated like a normal person somewhere.
Depends on what you are wanting to do with your life ? State prisons are more segregated by your race and your car, and the fed will have more educated convicts, and guys who were moneymakers on the street.
I was in Federal Prison Camp Pensacola,Fl horrible everything food guards they would make us go cut gras at Eglin air force base really bad place the only good thing I got from there was my G.E.D that's it.
German Santos ohh my god they made me cut grass 😂 the food was gross guess what piece of shit stop commuting crimes and then thinking you ain’t gonna do the crime
German Santos what a loser man , ohh man they didn’t even serve steak or shrimp the fuck kind of a joke is this , guards are assholes too like man who’s running this place 😂😂😂 I can just imagine your stupid look on your face
I'm actually on your side here. Why should you be made to work on a military base of all places unless it was voluntarily and paid, even if only 9 cents an hour. I thought we already paid the military billions, they can extract that labor from those people who we pay so much money for every month, and not extract labor from civilians.
To be honest the people in charge of us was an ex military man and he had to work with us too lol we got paid 18 bucks a month. The ones who really got paid where the bus drivers they made 400 a month and of course we had prison guards escorting us in there patrol cars. The other guys that made money where the ones who made the military yea that's right federal prisoners making uniforms for the United States Military. One thing that was cool was watching the F35 Jets that was amazing and they also had a weapons testing area right off the golf of mexico you would hear those F35 bombs and the machine guns pretty cool to see. We had two threats of a bombing while i was there now that was some scary shit that's when i decided to go work on camp at the education department and get my G.E.D.
I agree...but in the end, like anything, it's all that you make it to be. Listen to Justin, get a program going, that's what I did at Williamsburg federal prison camp. Get moving, exercise, talk to a person or two.
Can you talk more about white nationalists? I have a Jewish uncle that will be going to federal prison for 48 months. He is worried there won't be Jewish people in there and will be alone.
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I have not had to face prison time, but I appreciate hearing your perspective. I'll admit to thinking of federal prison camps as "club feds", but your video has shed light on what prison life is like and how one could make the best of their time. Thanks for sharing this with the public and God bless you and yours.
Vid starts at 6:06
Joshua Howard thank you damn he babbles so much
Your perspectives, insights and integrity are second to none. This may be one of your best videos, or at least in top 5.
Sam Pompeo thank you for your kind words.
Thank you Justin !! Again you just bring the RAW truth to everyone
I never want to go to prison Federal or State. I am thankful for your channel it is very educational and I would recommend it. Most people never give it a thought until them or a loved one or friend is headed there.
I was in FPC Boron. Steak a few times a week, great softball league. We even had a huge swimming pool. Good intelligent people. Never saw one fight. Great experience. I even got a 36 hour furlough with my girlfriend at a near by resort. To bad they deactivated the camp at the turn of the century.
Sounds like bullshit. .
@@davidhutchinson5233 100% true no need to bullshit about something like that
Yea that's not how it goes at the mediums or especially the usp
Lompoc ,Taft ,California very good camp I worked my way down from USP. It was all good except it's still prison.im out doing good God bless.
Prison is a restriction on freedom with people you normally would never interact with and you don't want to be there. Any advice given by those being there is worth listening too.
Okay, I watched to the last six minutes. I never thought that the majority of these prisons were actually like country clubs, but to someone in a higher security prison I think the difference would likely seem negligible.
They also changed the sensitivity of the metal detectors to the point I could not pass through even though I had no metal and policy was you could not get in if you could not go through the detector. They would not do a manual wand search.
“And they are indifferent to their own life”...this is something ive never thought of....unhappy people can make those around them unhappy.
I was just released from Florence camp. I started at Herlong medium, Big spring low, Lompoc camp, Florence camp. I want to tell you about Florence camp. Not cool. Because of the fci and usp and adx are always on lockdown and they make the campers do all the work 12 hrs a day 7 days a week. The camp is off the hook phones, alcohol, drugs. I have done 8 terms in ca. state prison from level 3 to fire camp and this federal bid. I can be a consultant. I am articulate and knowledgeable. I was in quarantine with a whits collar gentleman and he paid for a consultant. He told me I helped him more and gave him more information than what he paid for. The food at Florence is garbage also. not a good camp. My Mom and Dad also went to federal prison and I visited my Mom at pleasanton when it was co-ed and my Dad at Lompoc camp in the 70s. Found myself in the same camp years later. Taft? I was at McFarland when Taft and McFarland were state prisons or ccfs. I was released on a compassionate release 3 years early. Best Regards
your advice doesn't only apply to people facing prison, that's one thing you should be aware of going forward also. you can help by keeping people from making the same mistakes that landed you and your clients there. although it may reduce your client potential it certainly would be giving back.
Thanks for commenting. Since 2009, I have spoken to hundreds of audiences about the motivations and consequences of white collar crime. Those "cautionary tales" I think have helped business students and executives better understand how their choices could derail their life. I will return to the business school at USC on September 22 to share that same story. I derive a great deal of satisfaction helping others make better decisions. Hope you are well.
Your mother's experience, another reason to never trust the system. I'm happy you got through your ordeal. Best of luck to you Justin.
+dreiser91786 I appreciate the message. Thank you very much. Be well, Justin
Many times they changed the rules on what was acceptable for visitors to wear without notice of any kind. More than once my wife or I had to change some item of clothing we had worn many times before before we were allowed in for visitation.
Like your vids bro. Fascinating lol
Thank you for watching. My best to you and your family.
White Collar Advice likewise to you and yours.
I absolutely love this video! Thanks so much for sharing. Very interesting content and superbly presented.
The problem with this video is that your premise for the discussion is set up to be a side by side comparison which is silly. Of course it isn't a country club, it's prison. You are taking the expression "like a country club..." at face value. People use the expression very loosely and, compared to a higher level institution, camps ARE completely different and a comparatively congenial place in which to do you time. I was 2 years at Sheridan FPC, and I have to say, the place was MUCH better than I could ever have imagined, especially the RDAP Unit #6. The food, staff, living units (large, clean 4 man cubes) and the Oregon setting were, to me, more like residing at a small college than a country club. You are correct though, a high percentage of inmates are mentally unstable and interacting with unstable people is very fraught and difficult. Surrounding yourself with a group of like-minded inmates inoculates you from them for the most part. Also, as you point out, doing positive, healthy things for yourself DAILY makes this obligatory "pit stop" time well spent. Thank-you for sharing...
With respect, ditch the first 1:40 and jump right into it.
My contribution would be that ANY custodial situation has greater percentages of violence, disease, and mental illness.
Prison is prison, shank or be shank. That goes for a celly named Mad Dog or Alvin.
I think you missed the point. It is rather a comparison to the way prisons are like now as to what they were like hundreds of years ago. No one is saying that prisons are like today's country clubs it is rather an analogy to what prisons one were, i.e. today's prisons are like country clubs compared to what prisons were like hundreds of years ago.
White collar prison is club fed compared to blue collar prisons. That lawyer has had a tour of various types of prisons. My belief is that White collar prisons are designed to punish the privileged convicts and re integrate hardened blue collar convicts into society. I had a tour of a 3 level prison back in high school.
Missed visitation more than once over a year period until they readjusted the settings.
Well of course it's not really like a country club but it is the country club of prisons
is there prisoners gambling in club fed? What happens if you get caught?
The short answer: It used to be like that back in the day but it is not a joke anymore.
White Collar Advice - I do not know the ropes, but these prison officials and employees sound REALLY stupid,unless I am getting a really off target impression.It is a miracle that there are not more escapes!
Did 2 years in Pensacola, it sucked compared to maxwell in Montgomery. Montgomery was a serious country club. Worse thing about being at the camps is being away from your family otherwise it’s easy time. The ones saying it’s hard are usually the blue collar crimes who come In still thinking they are Intitled and whine about having to work. I’ll be truthful to any question asked about the camps. I worked my way down from behind the fence to a camp and all through the transit and con air. A lot being said here is not true
+kent I would love you to list one thing I said that is “not true.”
I actually serve two years and FPC Pensacola when were you there
OMG, do people seriously not realize that when people say it's a country club, they're being sarcastic? This guy's actually making a serious comparison between prison and a country club, really? Is this video supposed to be a joke? People actually think it's going to be like a country club?
Hello, I am that guy. Did you watch the video? If you did you would see a client's lawyer tried to appease his client by telling him not to worry about prison because it was a country club. When the white collar defendant heard it was a like a country club he stopped preparing. He figured prison would be easy, a joke. So yes to prove that prison is nothing like a country club I filmed this video. Debunking misperceptions that prison is in some ways like a country club, I think, will help more people take the time to prepare properly.
I did watch the video. That lawyer sounds like a malpractice-committing idiot.
Melissa0774 Go online and look at comments...lots of people buy into a "Club Fed" myth.
High Number Yeah, but rich people who pay attorneys 700 something dollars per hour? (Or whatever he said the amount was) What do they think they'll be treated like Al Capone because of their money, or something? I guess they can't wrap their mind around the fact that they're actually going to be treated like a normal person somewhere.
You could have said that you're brian Cashman, and avoided prison.
Funny how everyone is jumping in on the prison topic.Lmao
is federal prison any better than state prison
Depends on what you are wanting to do with your life ? State prisons are more segregated by your race and your car, and the fed will have more educated convicts, and guys who were moneymakers on the street.
I was in Federal Prison Camp Pensacola,Fl horrible everything food guards they would make us go cut gras at Eglin air force base really bad place the only good thing I got from there was my G.E.D that's it.
German Santos ohh my god they made me cut grass 😂 the food was gross guess what piece of shit stop commuting crimes and then thinking you ain’t gonna do the crime
German Santos what a loser man , ohh man they didn’t even serve steak or shrimp the fuck kind of a joke is this , guards are assholes too like man who’s running this place 😂😂😂 I can just imagine your stupid look on your face
Questioning Everything fuck you nobody was talking to you bitch ass nigga you probably wouldn't last a day in county 🖕🖕
I'm actually on your side here. Why should you be made to work on a military base of all places unless it was voluntarily and paid, even if only 9 cents an hour. I thought we already paid the military billions, they can extract that labor from those people who we pay so much money for every month, and not extract labor from civilians.
To be honest the people in charge of us was an ex military man and he had to work with us too lol we got paid 18 bucks a month. The ones who really got paid where the bus drivers they made 400 a month and of course we had prison guards escorting us in there patrol cars. The other guys that made money where the ones who made the military yea that's right federal prisoners making uniforms for the United States Military. One thing that was cool was watching the F35 Jets that was amazing and they also had a weapons testing area right off the golf of mexico you would hear those F35 bombs and the machine guns pretty cool to see. We had two threats of a bombing while i was there now that was some scary shit that's when i decided to go work on camp at the education department and get my G.E.D.
Good videos unfortunately I got to witness Andrew pass
Prison is not going to be a good time unless you are homeless
I agree...but in the end, like anything, it's all that you make it to be. Listen to Justin, get a program going, that's what I did at Williamsburg federal prison camp. Get moving, exercise, talk to a person or two.
Your a joke ...id rather sleep on a bench then be locked up
10-$=churro??
Hey dont explain it to these people the real ones know how the politics work on the Lows Mediums and USP
This is the gay Wes Watson... he hooped his paper work on his way out of prison
Can you talk more about white nationalists? I have a Jewish uncle that will be going to federal prison for 48 months. He is worried there won't be Jewish people in there and will be alone.
I’m filming a new video Monday. I’ll address it.
Long winded. Get to the point.
No problem, here you go: Federal Prison is nothing like a country club.
White Collar Advice sorry for the nasty reply.
Kip Wheeler all good.
Is Federal Prison Camp A Club Fed (Country Club)? YES!! You prick you ripped people off and oh man had to be without designer clothes and a personal cook - KMA