Nice Job, Joe. The BTV-5 Hustler vertical really likes to have radials. Coax connectors and barrels are ok if properly installed. No slip on connectors tho. Or you could just run continuous runs of coax to the antenna. I recommend a fan dipole (inverted-vee) for 75 and 40 meters. Properly built they are cheap and effective. The tower looks a little wiggly. I hope you don't get big winds there. Have a lot of Ham Radio fun, Joe. You meet some of the best people in the world via Ham Radio. Pete Stark K4OM Huntington, WV A ham for 58 years.
That tower is literally only about 12 feet higher than the gable end of your house on the left @ 7:00. You could have simply mounted it alongside the house and tied it to the gable with brackets, and avoided all this hassle you've been going through. Very surprised neither you nor the club members thought of this during the planning stage.
Four or five sections of Rohn 25, mast, antennas and angle iron, etc. And you use a light duty plastic rope to pull up that 250-350#'s of weight. Something tells me you got lucky that the rope didn't break! I that happened the guy on the roof would have also come down very fast I suspect. Terry
Unbelievable multitasking from the "taskmaster" flying the drone, running the winch all while not slipping off a snowy roof!I am impressed. Also that rope. That is some strong rope!
The Hustler isn't going to do much without ground radials. I didn't see any sign of guy wires. That is not a self supporting tower. The least you could do is a bracket to the house.
It's been a while but I think the Hustler was the 2 meter antenna which is performing awesome and yes there were three ground radials attached to it. But if it's that multiband antenna, you are correct I'm going to take it down at some point cuz it doesn't work for squat. After seeing how sturdy it was with the three metal legs I opted to not attach it to the house and so far it has withstood some pretty heavy-duty windstorms. Thanks
yes, correct, if elevated the 5btv requires a minimum of two per band drooped at 45* angles, worthless without them. But seems he is learning and thats what this hobby is all about.
@@lt4324 Yep, life is one big learning curve, LOL. If we're not learning something every day, we might as well be snails :) Thanks and have a good day.
On HF the barrel connector is not even an issue, I have used them many times and even had at least 3-4 on some SAME coax because of my old setup. You will NOT notice any difference on "HF", hope you did not go to all of the trouble yet? On HF the loss is 0.05db ! (negligible), AND NOT 0.5 DB. By the way being the 5btv is elevated I did not see any counterpoise wires for each band, usually two wires for each band drooped at a 45* angle. (sorry, unless I missed it) Thanks for posting your video, 73 de KD6SBR Tom in NV
Good info! Yeah I learned the 5 band didn't work without the radials, but it was worth a try. I need to get the tower down and make some adjustments and pull that 5 (or 6?) bander down. Thanks.
I wouldn't use a PL259 or an SO239 anywhere on any transmission line if it can be avoided, much less a UHF barrel. They aren't waterproof and the don't have constant impedance. The "U" in "UHF" connectors isn't Ultra, it's UNSPECIFIED (as in impedance). N connectors are the solution.
Well I've heard the argument by many pro's in both directions, but more seem to think the connectors are fine. Its all still working, and I'm not really into the technical stuff as many are. Thanks.
Nicely done. But now you're going to erect a pole for the 10 meter in that clearing? I'm not following why you didn't get good reception on that tower.
Long story, that that long antenna was actually made to be mounted at ground level and not on a tower, so I am going to move it there to ground level. Probably put another one up on the tower :)
@@HiddenValleyHomestead Well it is a multi band, but yes it calls for ground radials laid out on the ground at differing lengths to help reflect the signal of each of the antenna.
@@kapperoutdoors I thought so. So Im trying to follow you on this... why couldn't you put those radials on up at the top of your mast? Wouldn't the extra height be super advantageous? Or do you expect to get better reception down on the ground surrounded by trees? Sorry if these questions are elementary somewhat but I'm a bit of a ham newbie.. like 5 yrs only in 2m and 72cm..
@@kapperoutdoors So talking with my buddy with 30+ham radio experience, he watched your vid and said right away that it wasn't the tower mount that gave you bad reception, it was too many antennas too close together. If you had mounted that 5 band on top with radials and the smaller/shorter antennas under it you would have been golden. The SWRs are all i interfering with each other.
From the moment that tower raised off the saw horses those guys on the ground were putting themselves at risk. They served no purpose by being under the tower and pretending to lift. They would have been unable to hold or lift the weight of the tower and had that rope broke the tower would have came crashing down on them. They should have stayed off to the side until the tower was straight up and then they could insert the bolts on the hinge plate.
yes in hindsight we see that. but had it been flat ground, and not uphill, I think they would have seriously been able to muscle it up if I were just hand pulling from the top. But why find out, when I have equipment! From here on out it will just be the winch working! thanks.
Enjoy your videos Kapper just subscribed also. Always nice to see what your into on your next project videos. Really like that remote control hoist winch setup.
thank you I appreciate it. We try to keep it very diverse, and we are in to so many different projects, I can't keep up! Hope you stick around, appreciate it!
On the barrel connectors, I would not sweat the "theoretical loss", even real measured loss. For every 3 db of loss or gain there is 1/2 or 2x the radiated power. You are going to have more "mismatch" impedance loss in a cobbled splice. I have been in this hobby for 50 years and "experts" have always been with us, but thw sage among th old timers stated "If you can hear them and work them, who cares what the SWR and loss is". They are right. We used to run RTTY which is 100% duty into multi-band dipoles with 2.5 to 1 SWR, no antenna tuners. Made contacts all over the world and never hurt the rigs. The only rig damage was done by a direct lightening strike which wiped out everything in the house. Bottom line - if you make contacts and see no glaring issues, go with it and let the "Ex-Spurts" have their favorite pastime of feeling superior.
Hey... another RTTY guy. I loved RTTY! I helped work on the original SelCal system and was responsible for getting ARRL's W1AW station to include the NNNN sequence at the end of the RTTY broadcast transmissions. Back in the day I ran a model 28KSR, 28 Reperf and 28TD along with some Kleinschmidt 100WPM gear. Nothing like the smell of hot motors and oil. On HF I ran a TS-940 and 1KW output from an Alpha 78 into a 4-element HF yagi. Like you said, RTTY is 100% duty cycle. On 2M we had a dedicated RTTY repeater in the area with 100+ on-line members. The machines were hardly ever quiet. As for Kappers vertical, the whole idea is to not run a splice at all. The instructions for the 5BTV tells you to strip back the coax about 6-inches and form two leads (center conductor and shield). These leads are then supposed to fasten directly to the base of the vertical using the bolts provided. Using this method there is no mismatch. I think Kapper used the barrel "splice" because he didn't want to redo the pigtail. So instead he attached a PL259 to the hunk of coax that was left when the original owner hacked off the feedline. A lot of HF yagis use the same method for attaching the feedline to the driven element.
yes, there you go! I get so much conflicting info on some topics like this!!! That was why I put it on in the first place, lol. But it is good to know that it will work either way! thanks man.
There is another video that tested 12 SO239/PL259 barrel connectors (yes 12 of them) in a row, actual real loss was less than 0.2dB at 440MHz, less than 0.1dB at 145MHz (estimated at 0.07-0.08dB), and not enough loss to trigger the meter below 50MHz.
pretty cool to have the remote control winch. now why are you going to move the tower closer to the woods. will that help with transmission and receiving
I wish I could... I looked in to that at two different farms and the costs are so prohibitive, plus restrictions from the power companies that it was not worth it for us, but it sure would be nice :)
Is there any way you can ground this in case of lighting strikes? Would hate for a random jolt to burn up everything to ground if it is inside the house. Just curious, never thought of how they do it before.
Omg I remember when my brother put up their ham radio antenna they had three sections n one time the wind took out one section, n my one brother had climbed up with one of those strap on thing telephone pole guys used to have n one time that harness snapped n he fell 30 ft to the ground, n he had cracked his spine n ended up having to wear a back brace for 6 moths so make sure u got that tied off big time they had put an x attenna on there’s bk in the late 60s today he builds tv stations n the programming for pbs
yeah, believe me I was well aware of that risk!!!! Held on for dear life any time I moved!!!!!!!! Don't think I'll EVER go up with snow up there again!!! :)
It has been told to me since I have been a Ham that there is appx 0.3 DB loss per connector. I have recently seen a video by a ham that shows after connecting 30 oddball old connectors in a row there was less than 1 watt lost in transmit. YES 30 connectors in a series! Receive was not tested. Summary: Near ZERO loss for a single barrel connector. Happy Hunting!
I don't think I'd have let 3 guys pushing up "under" the tower, I can't imagine they contributed enough muscle versus the winch to risk severe injury if the top cable snapped. You didn't mention if that was climbing rope rated at 2,000 lbs or hardware rope that just looked like climbing rope at working strength of maybe 600 lbs? I understand the role the roof peak played but I would have been leery of dropping the entire show. As for the 1/2 db loss per connector, I heard that too but a friend of mine strung several together and saw no appreciable loss at 144Mhz and HF would be even less? Someone needs to do a good TH-cam video on the topic !! Never considered myself a safety nazi, glad you got it up without incident 73's de nv2a
I have to disagree with you on the barrel connector Kapper. Those PL barrels are very lossy and they create an impedance "bump" in the transmission line. Worse... to use a barrel requires TWO male PL-259 connectors which are also lossy. The way the manufacturer illustrated in the manual to attach the feedline is not lossy nor does it create an impedance bump. Radio waves do strange things and act much differently than DC when it comes to conductors and connections. The same common sense and practices that work just fine for DC tend to completely fall apart at radio frequencies.
@@M70ACARRY Ping one with a TDR sometime. Especially the junk imported connectors they sell now days. It's less of an issue with older good quality silver connectors.
@@eosjoe565 it's so negligible. I remember seeing an experiment where a guy took a whole bunch of different connectors of different quality. It was a crazy looking contraption. The calculated losses were barely perceptible. I don't worry about this stuff with HF. Now, VHF/UHF, I try to limit breaks in connections. Why sweat it? It's a non starter working with HF.
@@M70ACARRY I'll agree with that. I keep forgetting this was on the HF antenna. The lower frequencies are much more forgiving. I keep thinking back to the mindset I had with my Mode-L satellite rig. A 100W 1269 Mhz uplink and 435 Mhz downlink. You really had to watch your P's and Q's with connectors and transmission lines.
You really shoulda backed tractor up at the end rather than winch too much strain on the winch and little paracord rope. Thicker rope or a cable I think woulda worked better. Not bad though. -73- W1KPS
yeah, I totally forgot that I had a full spool of heavy duty cable that I was supposed to use! But I'll be changing it and I'll keep the steel cable on so I can lower it any time I want. That winch is like a 5,000 lb winch so that really should be easy work for it. Thanks.
So happy to see this great method for safely raising a tower--thank you! As I'm a novice, yours is the first video I've seen mentioning different types of antennas on a single tower. Is there a "rule of thumb" for the spacing of antennas (Ham, CB, TV, Weather, etc.) to avoid causing interferences? Thanks and best wishes! :-)
not only that, when an 5btv is elevated it needs to have at least 2- counterpoise wires per band you intend to operate on or otherwise its useless. Its even in the instructions. This was my first antenna when I was licensed in '93 and it too was elevated BUT with the required wires for counterpoise.
not only that, when an 5btv is elevated it needs to have at least 2- counterpoise wires per band you intend to operate on or otherwise its useless. Its even in the instructions. This was my first antenna when I was licensed in '93 and it too was elevated BUT with the required wires for counterpoise.
Nice job!
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice Job, Joe.
The BTV-5 Hustler vertical really likes to have radials.
Coax connectors and barrels are ok if properly installed. No slip on connectors tho. Or you could just run continuous runs of coax to the antenna.
I recommend a fan dipole (inverted-vee) for 75 and 40 meters. Properly built they are cheap and effective. The tower looks a little wiggly. I hope you don't get big winds there.
Have a lot of Ham Radio fun, Joe. You meet some of the best people in the world via Ham Radio.
Pete Stark K4OM
Huntington, WV
A ham for 58 years.
Thanks man, that 2 meter setup performs like a charm. We have such high elevation here that it is a real boost. Take care and 73's
That tower is literally only about 12 feet higher than the gable end of your house on the left @ 7:00. You could have simply mounted it alongside the house and tied it to the gable with brackets, and avoided all this hassle you've been going through. Very surprised neither you nor the club members thought of this during the planning stage.
I did not want to mount anything on the house. Thanks
Four or five sections of Rohn 25, mast, antennas and angle iron, etc. And you use a light duty plastic rope to pull up that 250-350#'s of weight. Something tells me you got lucky that the rope didn't break! I that happened the guy on the roof would have also come down very fast I suspect. Terry
Well it was not light duty rope, but I do get your point. Thanks. (I bought a cable to use for it from now one)
The Hustler multiband works great if you install radials.
lol yeah I found out it sure needs the radials! Thanks
Unbelievable multitasking from the "taskmaster" flying the drone, running the winch all while not slipping off a snowy roof!I am impressed. Also that rope. That is some strong rope!
LOL thanks I appreciate it
The Hustler isn't going to do much without ground radials. I didn't see any sign of guy wires. That is not a self supporting tower. The least you could do is a bracket to the house.
It's been a while but I think the Hustler was the 2 meter antenna which is performing awesome and yes there were three ground radials attached to it. But if it's that multiband antenna, you are correct I'm going to take it down at some point cuz it doesn't work for squat. After seeing how sturdy it was with the three metal legs I opted to not attach it to the house and so far it has withstood some pretty heavy-duty windstorms. Thanks
yes, correct, if elevated the 5btv requires a minimum of two per band drooped at 45* angles, worthless without them. But seems he is learning and thats what this hobby is all about.
@@lt4324 Yep, life is one big learning curve, LOL. If we're not learning something every day, we might as well be snails :) Thanks and have a good day.
I have one question im building my own tower but im in europe and i was wondering what is the size of the zig zag rods im mm
I was expecting to see an existing tower raised higher. What I got was an antenna-raising party. Please consider retitling the video.
Well I did make the existing tower higher by adding a section or 2. Don't recall for sure now.
I hope you are feeling better Joe.
Thanks Jerry, slow and uphill but a little better each day!
On HF the barrel connector is not even an issue, I have used them many times and even had at least 3-4 on some SAME coax because of my old setup.
You will NOT notice any difference on "HF", hope you did not go to all of the trouble yet?
On HF the loss is 0.05db ! (negligible), AND NOT 0.5 DB.
By the way being the 5btv is elevated I did not see any counterpoise wires for each band, usually two wires for each band drooped at a 45* angle. (sorry, unless I missed it)
Thanks for posting your video, 73 de KD6SBR Tom in NV
Good info! Yeah I learned the 5 band didn't work without the radials, but it was worth a try. I need to get the tower down and make some adjustments and pull that 5 (or 6?) bander down. Thanks.
Job well done nice piece of property from up there.
Thank you, yes it is beautiful out here!
Great work guys getting the tower up!
Thank you, yeah, big success on this one!
Great job Kapper looks awesome bro
Thanks man, yeah happy ending on this one!
Looking good. Glad they work and give something to do when recovering from surgery. Thanks for sharing and get well soon
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Yeah, working nice while I'm down, have some coffee chats most every day.
Everyone did a great job! The winch on the Kubota was a good idea.
yeah and that remote control worked great. thanks.
What size of winch did you use?
I think a 4,000lb maybe, whatever was on the machine.
I wouldn't use a PL259 or an SO239 anywhere on any transmission line if it can be avoided, much less a UHF barrel. They aren't waterproof and the don't have constant impedance. The "U" in "UHF" connectors isn't Ultra, it's UNSPECIFIED (as in impedance). N connectors are the solution.
Well I've heard the argument by many pro's in both directions, but more seem to think the connectors are fine. Its all still working, and I'm not really into the technical stuff as many are. Thanks.
Nicely done. But now you're going to erect a pole for the 10 meter in that clearing? I'm not following why you didn't get good reception on that tower.
Long story, that that long antenna was actually made to be mounted at ground level and not on a tower, so I am going to move it there to ground level. Probably put another one up on the tower :)
@@kapperoutdoors Oh? So does that frequency need to have a large ground plane or something? 10 meter right?
@@HiddenValleyHomestead Well it is a multi band, but yes it calls for ground radials laid out on the ground at differing lengths to help reflect the signal of each of the antenna.
@@kapperoutdoors I thought so. So Im trying to follow you on this... why couldn't you put those radials on up at the top of your mast? Wouldn't the extra height be super advantageous? Or do you expect to get better reception down on the ground surrounded by trees? Sorry if these questions are elementary somewhat but I'm a bit of a ham newbie.. like 5 yrs only in 2m and 72cm..
@@kapperoutdoors So talking with my buddy with 30+ham radio experience, he watched your vid and said right away that it wasn't the tower mount that gave you bad reception, it was too many antennas too close together. If you had mounted that 5 band on top with radials and the smaller/shorter antennas under it you would have been golden. The SWRs are all i interfering with each other.
So good when u got good friends that are ready to help when u need it 💪 good job, all went off without a hitch, hope ur recovery going well 💪💪
From the moment that tower raised off the saw horses those guys on the ground were putting themselves at risk. They served no purpose by being under the tower and pretending to lift. They would have been unable to hold or lift the weight of the tower and had that rope broke the tower would have came crashing down on them. They should have stayed off to the side until the tower was straight up and then they could insert the bolts on the hinge plate.
Thank you sir, yes, couldn't have done this one solo!
yes in hindsight we see that. but had it been flat ground, and not uphill, I think they would have seriously been able to muscle it up if I were just hand pulling from the top. But why find out, when I have equipment! From here on out it will just be the winch working! thanks.
Whatever it is, it’s lookin good.
A crack team, if ever 🙃 at 10:12 a Sasquatch sighting.
!!! Exactly. I think it is a child. small for a adult.
huh!?? Now I have to go back and see!!! lol
Actually we have the Dogman down in this area...
@@kapperoutdoors LOL
Enjoy your videos Kapper just subscribed also. Always nice to see what your into on your next project videos. Really like that remote control hoist winch setup.
thank you I appreciate it. We try to keep it very diverse, and we are in to so many different projects, I can't keep up! Hope you stick around, appreciate it!
On the barrel connectors, I would not sweat the "theoretical loss", even real measured loss. For every 3 db of loss or gain there is 1/2 or 2x the radiated power. You are going to have more "mismatch" impedance loss in a cobbled splice. I have been in this hobby for 50 years and "experts" have always been with us, but thw sage among th old timers stated "If you can hear them and work them, who cares what the SWR and loss is". They are right. We used to run RTTY which is 100% duty into multi-band dipoles with 2.5 to 1 SWR, no antenna tuners. Made contacts all over the world and never hurt the rigs. The only rig damage was done by a direct lightening strike which wiped out everything in the house.
Bottom line - if you make contacts and see no glaring issues, go with it and let the "Ex-Spurts" have their favorite pastime of feeling superior.
Hey... another RTTY guy. I loved RTTY! I helped work on the original SelCal system and was responsible for getting ARRL's W1AW station to include the NNNN sequence at the end of the RTTY broadcast transmissions. Back in the day I ran a model 28KSR, 28 Reperf and 28TD along with some Kleinschmidt 100WPM gear. Nothing like the smell of hot motors and oil. On HF I ran a TS-940 and 1KW output from an Alpha 78 into a 4-element HF yagi. Like you said, RTTY is 100% duty cycle. On 2M we had a dedicated RTTY repeater in the area with 100+ on-line members. The machines were hardly ever quiet. As for Kappers vertical, the whole idea is to not run a splice at all. The instructions for the 5BTV tells you to strip back the coax about 6-inches and form two leads (center conductor and shield). These leads are then supposed to fasten directly to the base of the vertical using the bolts provided. Using this method there is no mismatch. I think Kapper used the barrel "splice" because he didn't want to redo the pigtail. So instead he attached a PL259 to the hunk of coax that was left when the original owner hacked off the feedline. A lot of HF yagis use the same method for attaching the feedline to the driven element.
yes, there you go! I get so much conflicting info on some topics like this!!! That was why I put it on in the first place, lol. But it is good to know that it will work either way! thanks man.
There is another video that tested 12 SO239/PL259 barrel connectors (yes 12 of them) in a row, actual real loss was less than 0.2dB at 440MHz, less than 0.1dB at 145MHz (estimated at 0.07-0.08dB), and not enough loss to trigger the meter below 50MHz.
roger that, good info, thank you.
pretty cool to have the remote control winch. now why are you going to move the tower closer to the woods. will that help with transmission and receiving
He isn't moving the tower. He is only moving the 5BTV vertical. He is going to take it off the tower and ground mount it over by the woods.
That went really easy and nothing got damaged. Winner, winner chicken dinner. Yea.
hoorah! Get that man his chicken dinner!!!! woo hoo!!! :)
@@kapperoutdoors wish i could get a chicken dinner.hahaha
Good work guys.👍
There has been countless tests that prove barrel connectors have NO appreciable loss.
Now, see, there you go, that was my initial intel!!!! lol I mean, they sell them by the truck load..... ?
You could also place a small wind turbine on that tower and get yourself some electricity for wind power.
I wish I could... I looked in to that at two different farms and the costs are so prohibitive, plus restrictions from the power companies that it was not worth it for us, but it sure would be nice :)
Now there's about ten minutes of 'tension' !
Job well done,...so far, now to see if transmission is up to par, right?
Great drone videography Kapper.
Thanks Reg, yeah it was tense for awhile for sure!
Digging the saw blade in your house!!!
Thank you, yeah I really like that thing! Although it is like 4 or 5 feet across and heavy as all get up! lol
Is there any way you can ground this in case of lighting strikes? Would hate for a random jolt to burn up everything to ground if it is inside the house. Just curious, never thought of how they do it before.
yeah it is all grounded, I think I put that in the next video.
th-cam.com/video/QdLTiakhiBU/w-d-xo.html
Do the close antenna proximity, to each other, make the signals directional?
Good job. My pucker factor would have been very high raising something that tall. Geez
Thanks. It went quite well in the end, but there was a bit of puckerage going on, LOL
How did the antenna tower do in the high wind today? Did you go out and look? Bet the top antenna's were dancing back and forth.
I want to make a video of that.... I checked it in 20+ mph, then 30+, then 40+!!!!!
I like how you act like you were working so hard but everyone at the bottom was yelling*
aren't those hustler antennas need radials ?
Omg I remember when my brother put up their ham radio antenna they had three sections n one time the wind took out one section, n my one brother had climbed up with one of those strap on thing telephone pole guys used to have n one time that harness snapped n he fell 30 ft to the ground, n he had cracked his spine n ended up having to wear a back brace for 6 moths so make sure u got that tied off big time they had put an x attenna on there’s bk in the late 60s today he builds tv stations n the programming for pbs
Dang man, that is really bad stuff right there! Glad to hear he recovered though!!!
I am putting one up almost exactly the same. KD9ISO here. I have a couple of questions if you don’t mind.
OK, good luck! You can email me at kapper@kapperoutdoors.com of you want.
Does it have a hinged base plate?
yes it does
I thought you cleared an area to install another tower for one of those three antennas?
The 5BTV will be GROUND MOUNTED at the new location.
I was cringing when I thought about how much that was going to hurt sliding off the roof. And hitting that ladder twice on the way down. Ouch!
yeah, believe me I was well aware of that risk!!!! Held on for dear life any time I moved!!!!!!!! Don't think I'll EVER go up with snow up there again!!! :)
Kap is that some of your better half's art work on the saw? Looks good.
oh no, we inherited that on one of our flip farms! Beautiful stuff eh!?
It has been told to me since I have been a Ham that there is appx 0.3 DB loss per connector. I have recently seen a video by a ham that shows after connecting 30 oddball old connectors in a row there was less than 1 watt lost in transmit. YES 30 connectors in a series! Receive was not tested. Summary: Near ZERO loss for a single barrel connector. Happy Hunting!
I think I heard you mention "guy wire"?
yeah I did, I was referring to the winch rope in that case.
I don't think I'd have let 3 guys pushing up "under" the tower, I can't imagine they contributed enough muscle versus the winch to risk severe injury if the top cable snapped. You didn't mention if that was climbing rope rated at 2,000 lbs or hardware rope that just looked like climbing rope at working strength of maybe 600 lbs? I understand the role the roof peak played but I would have been leery of dropping the entire show. As for the 1/2 db loss per connector, I heard that too but a friend of mine strung several together and saw no appreciable loss at 144Mhz and HF would be even less? Someone needs to do a good TH-cam video on the topic !!
Never considered myself a safety nazi, glad you got it up without incident 73's de nv2a
Putting a LOT of trust in the crap yellow rope.
How tall is just your tower with no antennas or stand offs? Thanks. Kb9wii
the rope was way to far up on the tower
I have to disagree with you on the barrel connector Kapper. Those PL barrels are very lossy and they create an impedance "bump" in the transmission line. Worse... to use a barrel requires TWO male PL-259 connectors which are also lossy. The way the manufacturer illustrated in the manual to attach the feedline is not lossy nor does it create an impedance bump. Radio waves do strange things and act much differently than DC when it comes to conductors and connections. The same common sense and practices that work just fine for DC tend to completely fall apart at radio frequencies.
No they DON'T. It's negligible.
@@M70ACARRY Ping one with a TDR sometime. Especially the junk imported connectors they sell now days. It's less of an issue with older good quality silver connectors.
@@eosjoe565 it's so negligible. I remember seeing an experiment where a guy took a whole bunch of different connectors of different quality. It was a crazy looking contraption. The calculated losses were barely perceptible. I don't worry about this stuff with HF. Now, VHF/UHF, I try to limit breaks in connections. Why sweat it? It's a non starter working with HF.
@@M70ACARRY I'll agree with that. I keep forgetting this was on the HF antenna. The lower frequencies are much more forgiving. I keep thinking back to the mindset I had with my Mode-L satellite rig. A 100W 1269 Mhz uplink and 435 Mhz downlink. You really had to watch your P's and Q's with connectors and transmission lines.
You really shoulda backed tractor up at the end rather than winch too much strain on the winch and little paracord rope. Thicker rope or a cable I think woulda worked better. Not bad though. -73- W1KPS
yeah, I totally forgot that I had a full spool of heavy duty cable that I was supposed to use! But I'll be changing it and I'll keep the steel cable on so I can lower it any time I want. That winch is like a 5,000 lb winch so that really should be easy work for it. Thanks.
So happy to see this great method for safely raising a tower--thank you! As I'm a novice, yours is the first video I've seen mentioning different types of antennas on a single tower. Is there a "rule of thumb" for the spacing of antennas (Ham, CB, TV, Weather, etc.) to avoid causing interferences? Thanks and best wishes! :-)
Great job! BTW, what is your call? Tnx. N9SMJ
Thanks, appreciate it.
Group hug :)
Or, shots on me! lol
You have too many antennas melted too close together it's going to affect the way they operate
not only that, when an 5btv is elevated it needs to have at least 2- counterpoise wires per band you intend to operate on or otherwise its useless. Its even in the instructions.
This was my first antenna when I was licensed in '93 and it too was elevated BUT with the required wires for counterpoise.
not only that, when an 5btv is elevated it needs to have at least 2- counterpoise wires per band you intend to operate on or otherwise its useless. Its even in the instructions.
This was my first antenna when I was licensed in '93 and it too was elevated BUT with the required wires for counterpoise.
something wrong with this YT, I did not reply this many times, sorry!
something wrong with this YT, I did not reply this many times, sorry!
Man we did good work when we work LOL
You sure do, Mike!
@@throngcleaver thank you
YEP! I still think the best part was you sweating it when you got really nervous while you guys were pushing on it! :)