This event was so bad, I didn't remember playing it. And then I went to the ex level section and saw I never even bothered trying to complete those. Having to corral hostages is one thing, but requiring 20 DP per prayer activation, and denying the player alot of space be it because of need of planks or to avoid boulder paths, makes placing vanguards way too much work (assuming they aren't beanstalk). Needing stealth removal and having your DP dinged from them either existing or attacking you is just putting ice on the deployment posts.
why is this event hard?: 1. Need to protect those civilians that randomly run around the map, when they died we lost 2. Enemies with DP recovery debuff & DP stealing makes the stage harder, not to mention we need to deploy 10DP woods to block the hole from the civilians falling into it; AND waste 20DP to use the towers to calm the civilians down to stop them from running. This is the only event so far i need to bring 4 vanguards for every stages to cheese 3. Invisible & tanky enemies 4. The block count and atk spd debuff is annoying, stacked with the DP debuffs, its essentially harder and provide less room of manipulation once you are running out of DP ngl, the stages itself are not hard once we managed to predetermine the civilians and enemies pathfinding, but the fact that we need to diverse our energy and focus on those running punchbags while being cautious with the DP and alert of the -block count debuff makes the whole event challenging.
yeah it's the civilian and the wood floor + rolling stone mechanic that is truly annoying, it's not truly hard, it's just forcing us to split the focus on a very trivial and uninteresting mechanics.
Atleast other type of civilians do something heck even ursus. Atleast they ran toward us which is easier to predict and not run around like a damn maniac
I’m pretty sure no one in Arknights community likes civilians gimmick stages. That one stage involving what-her-name that summon waves of fireballs and civillians is so frustrating to me.
I actually thought the same thing at first but then i killed one of the 8 DP limiters to increase the DP limit to 29. So Pot 1 thorns should work the same.
As a newish player I don't think i want to bother even finishing this one. I fucking hate civilians in this game, they're just there to be annoying to deal with. 0/10 mechanic.
If u decide to clear this event later, u can use ling to block the Indiana Jones boulders and replace the dragons each time the boss decides to lower their block count
EXACTLY. not worth trying to figure out what thing to do because you’re spending time playing do management simulator on a molecular level by igniting those prayer towers and when god forbid you forget OR don’t have enough dp or when some enemy destroys the towers you have to make sure those fuckass civillians don’t have kill themselves by falling into holes caused those boulders which ALSO need your precious dp to patch up.
Obvious complaints aside, even the tileset for this event is terrible. Just taking a glance at any map, and it's difficult to parse what tiles do what, which is super annoying when there are so many little things you're expected to keep track of, least of all how your decisions are going to affect the pathing of enemies...
.... frankly i actually prefer SN, besides the dodging enemies there are no need to spare fuckton of DP AND to be forced to split your focus to the citizen with a badly-designed UI, even when ur at max DP u gotta babysit these stupid civilians. forget to babysit those civilians then prepare for a damn huge headache.
@nakiyame2606 I could at least wrack my brain for a solution in HE (like not undeploying Myrtle at all, then bringing Ptilo to speed up her skill charge; for me that solved the DP issue), while in SN I needed silence status effect which is... well, I only have 2 operators rn that can inflict it and they don't have a reliable uptime: Ceobe and Podenco. On top of that, I am absolutely NOT doing the careful schtick needed to deal with the boss eating mechanic myself. My account isn't "good" enough for EX stages so spare me the slack about arguments revolving around it. And no, I do NOT have any meta DPS units.
@tairitsu2352 You don't have Jaye or Lappland? To my knowledge, they're the most reliable silencers in the game, and they pulled me through most of the SN stages with a bit more dps and a reliable medic (Lumen in my case) I'd highly recommend leveling either of them! They're also a great help with those exploding spiders if you ever find yourself struggling with them
I don’t get why I have to calm down the civilian I’m a PMC for god’s sake, my job is to leave no enemies in sight alive, not babysit I might even say it’s worse than Stultifera The DP cost for those is ridiculous and the guy stealing DP is also ridiculous(ly fast stealing speed) So many debuffs So many things to tend to I can strategize dealing with 4 lanes at once, but when I have to take care of suicidal fricks, I’m out Plus, 10DP can buy you a futuristic SP regenerator for your operator (that one Laternao even), but now I can only get one wooden plank that breaks in 3 hits?
The one hate I have to this event's stage is so many enemies have DP reduction effect. Basic bozo have -1dp every 3 strikes (2 in EX stages due to being upgraded), crossbow bozo being surprisingly tough with aoe effect attack that also -dp and both of them can snipe my statues and I couldn't forget the invis man who reduce my DP regen. That may be the reason why Sankta's gun aren't effective against those Scavengers
I absolutely despise annoying this people proctecting gimmick, this event basically tells me to babysit 2 dumbass from having a panic attack to not getting fucking crushed by boulders and not falling into a pit
@@ninji202 Understandable, I tried to not use her for stage with the 8 DP reducers this time but seeing that they can completely halt DP production even with Flagpipe doing its thing while having trash mobs rush me Deployed Texas alter to kill one then immediately wisadel to kill the rest, this events gimmick is so annoying
Nah man. These stages aren't difficult, they're just not fun. It's just filled with annoying mechanics, and they fixed the only fun part about the event (Shu kicking the invincible boss into a hole) so there's nothing good to say about it. It's just a combination of boring and annoying.
@RevyaAeinsett Myrtle is my only Vanguard built and I was able to manage DP just fine. You just have to play the stages more than once (which AK players despise) and learn what to prioritize. I like that this event isn't a DPS check and you have to focus on several moving parts in each stage that can't just be brute forced. Enemies spawning in random spots just means your playstyle needs to be more reactive (you don't need Texas).
They also patched Shu so that you can't flush Clement down the drain anymore. My day is ruined.
I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THE CHINESE!
EXACTLY I was trying to use her s3 only to realize HG just nerfed her
any video on that working? curious how it looks like
@@L_Nivale th-cam.com/video/5nRD2MHJzWs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=F98ikujmCGMblaHt
This event was so bad, I didn't remember playing it. And then I went to the ex level section and saw I never even bothered trying to complete those. Having to corral hostages is one thing, but requiring 20 DP per prayer activation, and denying the player alot of space be it because of need of planks or to avoid boulder paths, makes placing vanguards way too much work (assuming they aren't beanstalk). Needing stealth removal and having your DP dinged from them either existing or attacking you is just putting ice on the deployment posts.
why is this event hard?:
1. Need to protect those civilians that randomly run around the map, when they died we lost
2. Enemies with DP recovery debuff & DP stealing makes the stage harder, not to mention we need to deploy 10DP woods to block the hole from the civilians falling into it; AND waste 20DP to use the towers to calm the civilians down to stop them from running. This is the only event so far i need to bring 4 vanguards for every stages to cheese
3. Invisible & tanky enemies
4. The block count and atk spd debuff is annoying, stacked with the DP debuffs, its essentially harder and provide less room of manipulation once you are running out of DP
ngl, the stages itself are not hard once we managed to predetermine the civilians and enemies pathfinding, but the fact that we need to diverse our energy and focus on those running punchbags while being cautious with the DP and alert of the -block count debuff makes the whole event challenging.
yeah it's the civilian and the wood floor + rolling stone mechanic that is truly annoying, it's not truly hard, it's just forcing us to split the focus on a very trivial and uninteresting mechanics.
Can't agree more
Atleast other type of civilians do something heck even ursus. Atleast they ran toward us which is easier to predict and not run around like a damn maniac
And i thought im the only one who hate this even,glad to know it is a cannon event
I’m pretty sure no one in Arknights community likes civilians gimmick stages. That one stage involving what-her-name that summon waves of fireballs and civillians is so frustrating to me.
Boss Talulah MK 2 on Hard Stage, yeah I Hard on that Stage too on my new Day, Lucky I have Nightingale.
@@skycats6663If you forgot the Damazti, that would make sense but how does one forget Talulah??
I hate this event too. The Gimmick is annoying and i dare say it's badly designed.
Skill issue.
@reaperandyel Joe Mama's skill issue
With HE-7 being a pot-lock on Thorns just shows how unwilling you are to optimize this and honestly completely fair
I actually thought the same thing at first but then i killed one of the 8 DP limiters to increase the DP limit to 29. So Pot 1 thorns should work the same.
Any Hostage AI game mechanics are generally unfun and frustrating, bad event
Yeah but HE-7 has Coagulating gel, which is a bitch to farm otherwise, so this is the best chance to farm it
Il siracusano did it better
@@karvenmanI have 110 of it so I think I'll just farm RMA
Even more when you know that there are no enemies left so know you have to wait for the hostages/citizens to move to their next location 😒😒
@@karvenman Agreed, frankly it's the only redeeming quality I can think of about the event tbh.
Lame mechanics, lame enemies, lame boss, and a civilians, who you have no control over. Truly an arknights gamedesign moment
As a newish player I don't think i want to bother even finishing this one. I fucking hate civilians in this game, they're just there to be annoying to deal with. 0/10 mechanic.
If u decide to clear this event later, u can use ling to block the Indiana Jones boulders and replace the dragons each time the boss decides to lower their block count
EXACTLY. not worth trying to figure out what thing to do because you’re spending time playing do management simulator on a molecular level by igniting those prayer towers and when god forbid you forget OR don’t have enough dp or when some enemy destroys the towers you have to make sure those fuckass civillians don’t have kill themselves by falling into holes caused those boulders which ALSO need your precious dp to patch up.
i just dont wanna be on babysitting duty :(
Obvious complaints aside, even the tileset for this event is terrible. Just taking a glance at any map, and it's difficult to parse what tiles do what, which is super annoying when there are so many little things you're expected to keep track of, least of all how your decisions are going to affect the pathing of enemies...
Least braindead civilians in arknights be like
2nd worst event only behind Stultifera Navis
This piece of sh*t is by far the only other event I've gotten THIS much stress
.... frankly i actually prefer SN, besides the dodging enemies there are no need to spare fuckton of DP AND to be forced to split your focus to the citizen with a badly-designed UI, even when ur at max DP u gotta babysit these stupid civilians. forget to babysit those civilians then prepare for a damn huge headache.
@nakiyame2606 I could at least wrack my brain for a solution in HE (like not undeploying Myrtle at all, then bringing Ptilo to speed up her skill charge; for me that solved the DP issue), while in SN I needed silence status effect which is... well, I only have 2 operators rn that can inflict it and they don't have a reliable uptime: Ceobe and Podenco.
On top of that, I am absolutely NOT doing the careful schtick needed to deal with the boss eating mechanic myself.
My account isn't "good" enough for EX stages so spare me the slack about arguments revolving around it.
And no, I do NOT have any meta DPS units.
@tairitsu2352 You don't have Jaye or Lappland? To my knowledge, they're the most reliable silencers in the game, and they pulled me through most of the SN stages with a bit more dps and a reliable medic (Lumen in my case)
I'd highly recommend leveling either of them! They're also a great help with those exploding spiders if you ever find yourself struggling with them
I swear this event makes me bring minimal 5 vanguard every stage and I'm mad about it
I don’t get why I have to calm down the civilian
I’m a PMC for god’s sake, my job is to leave no enemies in sight alive, not babysit
I might even say it’s worse than Stultifera
The DP cost for those is ridiculous and the guy stealing DP is also ridiculous(ly fast stealing speed)
So many debuffs
So many things to tend to
I can strategize dealing with 4 lanes at once, but when I have to take care of suicidal fricks, I’m out
Plus, 10DP can buy you a futuristic SP regenerator for your operator (that one Laternao even), but now I can only get one wooden plank that breaks in 3 hits?
Event so damn annoying I’m just taking the high tier mats and getting out LOL 😭
The one hate I have to this event's stage is so many enemies have DP reduction effect. Basic bozo have -1dp every 3 strikes (2 in EX stages due to being upgraded), crossbow bozo being surprisingly tough with aoe effect attack that also -dp and both of them can snipe my statues and I couldn't forget the invis man who reduce my DP regen. That may be the reason why Sankta's gun aren't effective against those Scavengers
I absolutely despise annoying this people proctecting gimmick, this event basically tells me to babysit 2 dumbass from having a panic attack to not getting fucking crushed by boulders and not falling into a pit
I managed to get to HE-6 and I'm more than fine with not completing the event. I'd rather farm rocks
Finally, someone using Walter in guides
It's like everyone has a stigma against it even if everyone knows everyone who knew what to do got her
Don't get it twisted, I don't like using Wis'adel.
@@ninji202 Understandable, I tried to not use her for stage with the 8 DP reducers this time but seeing that they can completely halt DP production even with Flagpipe doing its thing while having trash mobs rush me
Deployed Texas alter to kill one then immediately wisadel to kill the rest, this events gimmick is so annoying
early or late they will pass, and enemy have less armor than others enemys
This event is so peak
peak MALDING 😡
I must be a weirdo because this event was not that annoying for me. But it may be because I used W Alter on it.
The Slabs got ammo out on the ring 🤔
This has got to be the worst event ever right?
This was the only event I didn't like
I hate this event as well
Nice clear
Escort mission the event
worst (normal) event in the game and it's not even close (poo and dos arent normal)
now just use ling is real for this event
I wholeheartedly agree lol
suck civilian, and its too laggy in my phone :(
i feel like this is easier than the last event so idk
Skill issue: the comment section
Nah man. These stages aren't difficult, they're just not fun. It's just filled with annoying mechanics, and they fixed the only fun part about the event (Shu kicking the invincible boss into a hole) so there's nothing good to say about it. It's just a combination of boring and annoying.
Bait used to be believable
@RevyaAeinsett Myrtle is my only Vanguard built and I was able to manage DP just fine. You just have to play the stages more than once (which AK players despise) and learn what to prioritize. I like that this event isn't a DPS check and you have to focus on several moving parts in each stage that can't just be brute forced. Enemies spawning in random spots just means your playstyle needs to be more reactive (you don't need Texas).
@@ninji202not everything is bait. Some people enjoy solving puzzles.
Bait used to be believable.